Take Note of.....Ty Wishart?
by garik16 on Mar 6, 2011 2:26 PM EST
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I don't actually have time for a full post on this, and it's on a limited sample size. But, well, I haven't been purposely paying attention to Wishart's play, though I have thought he's used his size better recently. Still, I didn't think he was producing really that well, and he hasn't really contributed offensively (or had the opportunity to) since the first few games.
Yet in 12 games, playing with Milan Jurcina and Jack Hillen, Wishart now has the 2nd best relative corsi on the team (well tied with the amazing Grabner), and the best among any of our defensemen. What this means is that the team's shot differential with Wishart on the Ice is better than with any other D man on the ice in his place. Now admittedly, this is facing not the greatest opposition....he's clearly not being asked to take on opposing top lines. On the other hand, he's not had favorable zone-starts (he's started in the defensive zone a little more than most of our D-Men.) and unlike A-Mac and Hamonic, hasn't had as many minutes with the better forwards on this Isles team. So while his offense hasn't been great, these numbers would indicate he's been playing fairly solid defense for this team.
Most of these results seem to come while playing with Jack Hillen. I'm not sure most of you realize it, but the D-pairing of Jack Hillen-Andy Sutton was pretty good for the Isles before Sutton was traded. Wishart has a little less size that Sutton, but it's an intriguing pairing.
Mind you, this could be a total fluke of a small sample size. Bruno Gervais and Dylan Reese both put up decent numbers in small sample sizes in previous years. But Wishart has physical gifts that neither of those two guys have. So at the very least it's intriguing.
In other words, please look with your eyes if you can at how Ty is playing on the ice. I suspect he'll start the year next year in the AHL with the undeserving Mottau and Eaton getting spots in his stead, but he could be a very promising piece in our rebuild of our D-line.
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Small sample size indeed
But I like Wishart’s potential. I hate the idea of playing Eaton/Mottau/Gervais/Hillen/insertrandomAHLplayerhere over him.
Great post as usual garik.
I too like what I see from wishart recently. As you stated, a small sample size is questioning though. But I too think he’s going to be an important part of our future nhl defense. He won’t be a top 2, but a reliable defensive role player with size he should defintiely be. I just wish he used more physicality.
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Agreed
Needs to hit a little more, but he does use his size well to box forwards out and win 1-1 battles…Funny thing: Tampa Bay fans seem to think they stole Roli from us…imo opinion we got a young 5/6 dmen with great size, who will soon be a young 3/4 dmen with an extra 10-15 pounds when he fills out! Seems at least even, and thats being nice!
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It was a great trade for both teams
TB got the puck stopper they needed to have any chance at all to challenge while St Louis and Lecavalier are young enough to lead and we got what i truly think will be a significant piece of our puzzle in a couple of years. One of the big things is that I think he takes some of the pressure off De Haan to develop instantly. I am starting to think he will need more time than I had hoped.
There's a mountain of buoyant nostalgia under this team and it's going to erupt like Vesuvius when the Islanders are back in playoff contention.... Count on it.
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Mar 7, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Depending on how far TB goes in the playoffs will honestly determine how good of a trade it was for them.
We obviously got a no question, big young bottom 3 d-man for the next few years. They got a goalie rental, and that goalie rental is only good this year under contract. Rollie takes them to the Stanley Cup finals? I’d say both teams won. Rollie losing in the 1st or 2nd round, I’d say we obviously won this one. Time will tell, but that’s how I see it.
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I'm also an optimistic Knicks fan, pessimistic Mets fan, and a happy Jets fan.
IMO Ty........
will be either #6 or 7, because /Mottau/Gervais/Hillen are all small and the recent success of the team has been strongly influenced by having bigger and tougher players in the lineup.
Not impressed
He looks slow to me and is often not moving his feet. Not very strong on his skates either as it seems he gets knocked down easily for such a big guy. It’s still early though, maybe I’m only focusing on the bad.
I would argue that he makes up for his lack of speed with good positioning and smart puck movement.
I havnt seen him get beat on a rush yet because he gives himself planty of room/time to make up for his speed. His hockey IQ is high imo.
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not bad so far, but
still plenty of room for improvement.
he’s still a baby in defenseman years though, but i like what i’ve seen so far…
i’m not going to expect massive physical play, i want him focused on the essentials, let that part grow as he gets more comfy at the nhl level…
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Wishart
his first few games for Bpt were terrible – but he clearly came a long way and deserved a callup
his first few games for the Islanders weren’t very good either, but he’s been maturing fast – played a nice game against the Devils yesterday – he has size & presence & a nice shot, and is developing very nice game sense
very good trade by Garth, but what else is new? Snow is among the league’s best GMs
by Cary K on Mar 7, 2011 2:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Garth Snow for President!!!
There's a mountain of buoyant nostalgia under this team and it's going to erupt like Vesuvius when the Islanders are back in playoff contention.... Count on it.
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Mar 7, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Snow has put together a good staff...
In particular, the Islanders pro scouting department is VERY good: Moulson, Parenteau, Streit, Wishart, Jurcina. Is Ken Morrow still running that show?
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