Andrew MacDonald out for season with hip labrum tear.

@KatieStrangNYI Andrew Macdonald done for year with labral tear in right hip that requires surgery; Wishart recalled

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just saw that on hf boards

might be out next year too

by rockhouse15 on Mar 25, 2011 11:16 AM EDT reply actions

Third injury in two years

That has me really worried about his long-term viability as an NHL defenseman. 47 games last year and 60 games this year.

Let’s just hope he rebounds in the fall and comes back 100% healthy.

by Fabtraption on Mar 25, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions

AMac and Martinek should share a padded apartment.

You’re right to be worried about his viability at this level given his health problems to date.

by AP77 on Mar 25, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions

47 games last year

Not really- he played at least 20 games in Bridgeport as well.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Mar 25, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions

I guess I meant only NHL games

But yeah, 67 pro games on the year for 2009-2010

by Fabtraption on Mar 25, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Will be unable to skate until September It appears he has been playing through the pain since February and now that any lingering hope for the playoffs is gone he’s just going to get the surgury done.

“It’s not something that’s impossible to play through, but everyone just felt that at this point in the season, it’s best to try and be prepared for next season,” said MacDonald

You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?

by Anarcurt on Mar 25, 2011 12:08 PM EDT reply actions

Jesus H. Tavares

Why the hell has he been playing the past month? Playoffs were a pipe dream at best. This is like the Mets keeping guys in the lineup instead of getting them surgery on the basis of some absurd longshot coming through.

by afrosupreme on Mar 25, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions

I updated the link

to the Staple story (from the Strang tweet). I guess we are really trying for that “man games lost” record. I feel like a little piece of me died.

Thanks for posting this Fab.

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by Keith Quinn on Mar 25, 2011 12:15 PM EDT reply actions

So really this is an elective surgury and he's doing it now so he's back on his skates in time for camp

If he’s been playing through that for a month there really was little sign of it. He’s looked like his normal self most nights.

You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?

by Anarcurt on Mar 25, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions

I thought he looked bad last night though

Who knows what goes on…maybe this is the tank. I think yesterday was the “mathematically completely eliminated” point, so there really is no sense of him playing if he can aggravate it. Again, I just wish it was something new and different from “hip”. It creeps me out. The bonus to me is, imagine how well he’s gonna skate when he’s 100%. Let’s hope he’s ready for the start of the 2011 season.

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by Keith Quinn on Mar 25, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Actually, I'm kinda annoyed they didn't do this sooner.

Well, I’m annoyed now that I’m hearing what was happening, anyway.

As it stands right now, he’ll be able to skate by September, so long as he suffers no setbacks. He’ll likely not be ready for Opening Night. Meanwhile, the Isles pretty much gave up on the year when they sent Rollie to Tampa. Now, I know they weren’t mathematically eliminated until last night, but seriously, were they expecting to make it to the playoffs? For two weeks, their odds of making the postseason were less than 1%. It seems it would’ve been more prudent to shut him down almost a month earlier, so that he’d have a better shot at being ready for the start of next season.

Yes, I’m aware that it’s great the Isles have been developing chemistry between A-Mac and Hamonic. And winning sure does feel good. And they’ve been filling many seats lately. Momentum is great. But when it comes to the defense, there are two indispensible players: Streit and MacDonald. I would think it would have been much better to have the both of them ready for Opening Night, rather than risk more injury over the past month.

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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Mar 25, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions

And of course a hat tip to Fab for posting the story, and to Anarcurt for the follow-up.

Commissioner of the FIG pool, because I'm one terrible player.

by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Mar 25, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Ready for next season vs Risk of more injury

Now I’m no big city doctor, but I believe a torn labrum is one of those pain causing injuries that once it happens, there really isn’t much risk for it to get worse/better. I had a partially torn shoulder labral in my last year of college eligibility, but was advised by every doctor that I could keep going if the pain wasn’t overly bad without any risk for further injury. I suspect Isle’s docs advised A-Mac similarly- keep playing if you want/can.

Of course, the flip side is that once torn, cartilage does not heal on it’s own, and needs surgery. A-Mac (hopefully) has a long career ahead of him, so I’m guessing he made the choice to screw the last 8 games and get next season started (albeit late…sadly) pain free.

Of course, a real doctor can weigh in here.

by Nyisles82 on Mar 25, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions

I stayed in a Holiday Inn express last night

and think that this is the wrong team to fool around with hips! The problem with those pain causing injuries (not a doctor either, and I’m sure you’re aware of this as an athlete) is that they cause compensation/overcompensation problems that lead to other injuries. That ends up being your knee tear, groin pull etc. I really wish there was some kind of way to go through injury reports and get some kind of correlating something that can establish causation or something. If this is just luck, this team is in trouble!

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by Keith Quinn on Mar 25, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions

Good point

I think that’s called the last 3 years of DP, right?

Any way you cut it, this stinks.

by Nyisles82 on Mar 25, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions

I too thought he looked bad yesterday. Wasn't himself.

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I'm also an optimistic Knicks fan, pessimistic Mets fan, and a happy Jets fan.

by OzzyFan on Mar 25, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Thanks for updating

Your update certainly has more information than mine does, since I wrote it mostly in a blind shock.

by Fabtraption on Mar 25, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Noooooooooooooooo!

Fabrum Bear :`(

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by NSOsFan on Mar 25, 2011 12:46 PM EDT reply actions

Link to complete list of NHL man games lost to injury

Here

We lead by a very wide margin.

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by Keith Quinn on Mar 25, 2011 12:47 PM EDT reply actions

At least we're winning in something...

by Fabtraption on Mar 25, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions

We're #1

We’re #1, We’re #1!

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by Keith Quinn on Mar 25, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

So, we've quite literally

on average, had 1/3 of our team on the DL every single night of the season.

Just…… wow

There's a mountain of buoyant nostalgia under this team and it's going to erupt like Vesuvius when the Islanders are back in playoff contention.... Count on it.

by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Mar 25, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions

I just don't get it...I really really don't...

it’s not even fucking funny anymore. Islander hip is the new west nile virus. How can 3 defensemen on the same team have the same problem that requires the SAME season-ending surgery???

"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)

by Bryan2112 on Mar 25, 2011 1:07 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs

Is hip a big injury among d-men nhl wide?

by OzzyFan on Mar 25, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions

The article says the surgury is common in hockey and baseball

You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?

by Anarcurt on Mar 25, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Also

I love that this Fanpost is listed right above an article titled “Rumors of The Islanders Demise Are Greatly Exaggerated” on the main site.

The ironing is delicious.

by Fabtraption on Mar 25, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions

That's the way things go for me

Like yesterday I publish the story about how Cappy’s done such a great job, and they have one of their worst games in months.

Or when I was writing a story about Poulin and he got hurt

Or when I did the Vote for Frans article and the day it was to be published, Gordon got fired.

It happens a lot when I write stuff.

"you may be discounting the fact that he's AWESOME." ~ Pauly C stating the obvious about Moulson.
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by Mark D on Mar 25, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions

PUT THE KEYBOARD ASIDE, I repeat: PUT THE KEYBOARD ASIDE

and save us some grief then, Webby! lol

by Russel Ginart on Mar 25, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe you are the Prjct*r and not Dominik.

Any articles on how soon Mike Green and Crosby are coming back? You may want to hold up on those until after the season.

Sarcasm is my permanent font.

by Hockey1919 on Mar 25, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Don't look for any help from Dominik or Ozzy

The both have sacraficed their dogs in hopes of breaking the Islanders injury woes; to no avail!

by Russel Ginart on Mar 25, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions

lol

by OzzyFan on Mar 25, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions

My dog went down with Islander knee as well and still hasn't recovered.

Sarcasm is my permanent font.

by Hockey1919 on Mar 25, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions

I knew it was someone, forgot who.

by OzzyFan on Mar 25, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions

Well obviously you need to write only terrible things about this team from now on.

by Fabtraption on Mar 25, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions

Damn

by OzzyFan on Mar 25, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions

Have I mentioned

That I love you guys?

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by Mark D on Mar 25, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Now I'm heartbroken.

Sarcasm is my permanent font.

by Hockey1919 on Mar 25, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Why don’t you start writing about the Rangers? And the Flyers.

by IDigRcks on Mar 25, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Soooo...if he skates in september

what is the typical timeline here? He misses camp and preseason, but may in fact play in game 1? Also, had he intended to bulk up in the summer? If so, that really sucks that he’ll probably start next season out of shape.

F*ck, f*ckity, f*ck f*ck f*ck…guess we can dream of November 2011 when the Isles ahve a healthy and in-game-shape Mark Streit, Amac, Hamonic, and whoever rounds out the top 4

Guhhhhhhhh

"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)

by Bryan2112 on Mar 25, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions

Does a bad hip prevent chain push-ups?

That’s what we need to know!

You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?

by Anarcurt on Mar 25, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions

Lol, maybe it's these stupid chains that are smackin up on them Islander hips!

"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)

by Bryan2112 on Mar 25, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions

"That's why I don't give you Islander fans anything shiny and new, you're just going to break it" - the Hockey gods

The Streit news had me bummed and not because I thought the last eight games would mean anything. I didn’t want him back if he weren’t 100% ready, but it would have been a relief to not go through the whole summer without knowing if he were really healed or not.

Now we have AMAC out for the summer and we have to “hope” he fully recovers in time. I expect every point to be valuable next year. We can’t afford to get off to a slow start and lose any those early points that have you playing catch up the entire season. The real head scratcher is knowing this was going on for a while, I wish they would have shut him down sooner so that there was more margin to start next season in game shape. I guess that it is too late for that now and he’ll need an optimal recovery schedule.

Sarcasm is my permanent font.

by Hockey1919 on Mar 25, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions

Number of Islanders Out for the Year: 7

Hunter
Weight
Eaton
MacDonald
Mottau
Streit
Nabokov (8 if we’re counting douchitis as an injury)

Surprisingly, Martinek and DiPietro are going to make it to the end of the year. Who woulda thunk it?

by Fabtraption on Mar 25, 2011 2:29 PM EDT reply actions

You forgot Poulin

by OzzyFan on Mar 25, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions

OH GODS I DID!

by Fabtraption on Mar 25, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions

technically

Weight isn’t out for the year, unless I missed something.

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by Mark D on Mar 25, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions

From the glass is half full department

Well, if we draft Hamilton, Siemens, or Murphy and AMac is not quite ready we can give them the 9 game try-out to fill the spot.

You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?

by Anarcurt on Mar 25, 2011 2:35 PM EDT reply actions

True, but we'll likely have to trade up our 2nd rounders for them or trade down our 1st rounder for one of them.

With our #1 d-man out(a-mac), that’s a tough 23min/gm+ to replace on defense. Who is the defacto #1 d-man now? And who replaces a-mac as hamonic’s partner on the shutdown d-pair?

by OzzyFan on Mar 25, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions

"Thus expecting us to get a top 4 draft pick and pick one of the top 4 "future star" safe picks" And need to trade down or up for a d-man, or "overdraft".

by OzzyFan on Mar 25, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions

ehh

No Pick is ever a safe pick, except maybe #1 overall

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Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.

by Mark D on Mar 25, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions

DP

Sigh.

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by Keith Quinn on Mar 25, 2011 3:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions

yes, but if we had picked one of the two consensus #1 prospects at the time it would be a different story.

"you may be discounting the fact that he's AWESOME." ~ Pauly C stating the obvious about Moulson.
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by Mark D on Mar 25, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions

Or, more likely,

CdH starts the season with the big club.

There's a mountain of buoyant nostalgia under this team and it's going to erupt like Vesuvius when the Islanders are back in playoff contention.... Count on it.

by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Mar 25, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions

What I did when I saw this fanshot

Scrolling down the page, “Andrew MacDonald” caught my eye. I looked over and saw the “hip labrum” part. I immediately hit grief stage 1 with denial; April fools joke. Looked over at the calendar, nope, too early.

Next, I thought “I’m probably going get Rick rolled”, and didn’t click. I went to twitter fist, and saw the Staple tweet and told myself it was a forgery (like McKenzie during the trade deadline). I clicked anyway,because deep in my soul, I knew it was true…

Nothing gold can stay…healthy

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by Keith Quinn on Mar 25, 2011 3:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

Guys, Guys, chill.

Strang reports possibly just three months, and he’s been carrying this injury for a while. He’s obviously going to have surgery now so that he’ll be BETTER (and play better) next season. This is a positive move, good for the future.

Meanwhile, we get 7 more games to see two things:
1. How good is Hamonic now that is life jacket has been taken away?
2. Can Wishart keep up the good play?

Personally, I’m excited.

by garik16 on Mar 25, 2011 3:22 PM EDT reply actions

Yea, everyone step away from the ledge

"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington

by Pauly C on Mar 25, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions

Its always GREAT news when you find out a player is injured.

As a matter of fact the sooner he gets hurt the more time he has to recover. You can never get hurt too soon I always say.

No one is saying this is the end of the world, but it still sucks that he’s hurt and it leaves another question mark. Streit was supposed to be back before the end of the season and despite not hearing of any setbacks he won’t be. I’ll just be glad when everyone is healthy or at least the number of injuries is less than ridiculous.

Sarcasm is my permanent font.

by Hockey1919 on Mar 25, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions

You misunderstand

Yes it sucks he’s injured. But he was ALREADY INJURED. Read the news, he was PLAYING HURT. The sooner he decided to stop doing that in a season that was dead, the better.

The injury isn’t positive. The fact that he chose to have the surgery now instead of after the season IS.

by garik16 on Mar 25, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Yes it sucks he’s injured. But he was ALREADY INJURED. Read the news, he was PLAYING HURT. The sooner he decided to stop doing that in a season that was dead, the better.

The injury isn’t positive. The fact that he chose to have the surgery now instead of after the season IS.

This is a very good way of looking at things- thank you.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Mar 25, 2011 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions

I realize that, I'm just saying it would have been better news if he were NEVER injured in the first place.

As I stated in an earlier post, they should have pulled the plug SOONER if they knew he was injured.

Sarcasm is my permanent font.

by Hockey1919 on Mar 25, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, it's not like we realistically had a shot at the playoffs. Even the devils were/are a longshot and they were playing unbelievable until late.

by OzzyFan on Mar 25, 2011 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions

Yeah I'm just giddy with goosebumps...

Whatevs…I’m looking into a side gig as Bridgeport-Uniondale shuttle bus/limo driver

"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)

by Bryan2112 on Mar 25, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions

reply fail to garik

"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)

by Bryan2112 on Mar 25, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions

replay unfail

thus making the “reply fail” post the actual fail

I need a beer…happy hour here I come

"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)

by Bryan2112 on Mar 25, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions

All I can say

to this whole conversation is “my beer is still half gone”.

Nearly enough defensemen to last through the injury bug

by since70too on Mar 26, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions

WebBard.......QUICK hit the KEYBOARD

Write how this injury is the worst thing posibble, and that A-Mac will come back worse than ever!

by Russel Ginart on Mar 25, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

roflmao

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by Mark D on Mar 25, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions

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