Rumors of The Islanders Demise Are Greatly Exaggerated
I have only been to one Islanders game this year, mostly due to location and other factors beyond my control. But you quickly get the feeling that none of the analysts who take the time to mock the Islanders on a weekly basis (looking at you Scott Burnside, The Columbus Dispatch and plenty of others) have ever stepped inside the Coliseum to see a game themselves. Nearly everyone at the game had a jersey or some sort of Islanders gear on. These aren't fans who show up just if the Isles are winning, or because it's the thing to do. They names on the jerseys run the gauntlet from the glory days to Mike Comrie.
The crowd was quiet for most of the game as the Isles trailed 1-0, but you could tell the flood gates were just waiting to break. That they did in the third as the Islanders potted two quick goals to take the lead. The crowd went absolutely nuts and it almost felt like a weight had been lifted. Although the Isles went on to lose the game, it was easy to see why people would continue to come back to games even in the bleakest of times.
With all the talk about moving, with opposing teams fans showing up in busloads, with games hidden on MSG +2, with the general derision even some fans hold the team, it seems what is being lost in the shuffle are the fans. This is not a team that doesn't have a fan base despite winning records (eg: Atlanta Thrashers, Phoenix Coyotes) or fans who show up just because it's the thing to do (eg: New York Rangers, Toronto Mapleleafs).
Time and again when the Islanders have had events the outpouring of fan support has been overwhelming. How many other teams can have 5,000 fans show up to a hockey game in July that didn't feature a single player from the current team? Or the continually sold out draft party? Public appearances and activities by the Islanders seem to always gather a large crowd for example:
- Bowl-A-Thon with Lady Islanders [Gallery]
- 600 Kids Show up for Islanders Jamboree
- Even Joel Rechlicz has people lining up for his autograph
- Or any number of Islanders with lines of people for their autograph
Just like that game though, it's obvious Islander fans are there. But it's tough to describe to other fans how bad the Islanders have had it. Just try to imagine everything that could go wrong going wrong for nearly 20 years now. The Islanders have only won 451 games out of nearly 1200 games since Al Arbour left. That's a .377 win percentage. In comparison the Florida Panthers, who haven't made the playoffs since 99-00 and have a .378 win percentage since 00-01.
It's amazing that it's been a decade since the 01-02 playoffs, but looking at a video you can tell the place was rocking. Everyone who was there has fond memories and has reported that you could feel the Coliseum shaking. The passion for the Islanders among the fanbase can't be denied. It was an unfortunate start to the season, as injuries crippled the team, a poor economy and higher ticket prices crippled the attendance.
We aren't that far removed from a nurse yelling at the Islanders that they were losers as they did a public appearance. Or from D-List Wanna Be Celebrities making Youtube videos of them throwing their tickets out the window. Of course someone could point out that he could get the tickets replaced at will call. People on Twitter were yelling at Michael Grabner and Matt Moulson. Rob Schremp even stopped tweeting, and only started again since his move to the Thrashers.
When I originally started writing this over a month ago, I actually didn't know how to finish it. I felt like Islanders fans were just waiting for something, anything to cheer for. To only cheer for a team because they've made the playoffs or are fighting for the playoffs feels like a cop out to me. It's just that much more gratifying when you were there for the whole ride, the ups and downs. When the Islanders are winning in the playoffs, we can reminisce about those nights a 3 goal lead going into the third was the most dangerous in all of sports. As JT makes sweet passes on game winning goals in the playoffs, we can talk about his first season struggles.
The match that set off the powder keg came in the form of the Penguins game. The Islanders lowered ticket prices for the month of February, and in front of a sell out crowd they put on a show. Let's forget about the fights and the Islanders standing up for themselves. It was a 9 goal demolition of a team that is one of the best in the league. Ignore those who claim the Pens were injury ridden, even today the Pens are only 3 points behind Eastern Conference leading Flyers.
Since then it seems like the crowd is louder then ever at the Old Barn. There were even some Let's Go Islander chants at the Rock during the last game against the Devils. They've even managed to claw their way back to a winning record at home.
The strong finish means a lot heading into next season. Not just momentum for the team, but support from the fanbase. It feels like there are a lot more Islander fans opening their eyes and realizing there's a talented team with something special going on. With the team on the apparent rise and the fanbase embracing them, next year could be something special.
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Joe Louis Arena "Feels Like Hockey" But Nassau Coliseum is a Dump
I was watching TSN feed on Versus the other night of Detroit-Vancouver when the play-by-play guy said Joe Louis Arena is “old” (from 1979) and “lacks amenities” but just “feels like hockey.” Of course, Nassau Coliseum is also “old” (1972) and “lacks amenities” but to the hockey world, it’s a dump.
So much of this is all perception. You win, and the perception changes. And yes, the building was shaking in 2002.
Obviously there’s been ownership issues, but the guy who is most to blame for the franchise’s current plight is Milbury, who seemed to revel in being a circus clown. Garth is doing an excellent job rebuilding the team, Wang has stayed largely out of the spotlight for several years now, and the franchise still gets ripped as “Slapshot” with a “goofy” owner. That’s mostly Milbury’s fault and the stink he left, which has been harder to get rid of than mold in your house..
So much of this is all perception. You win, and the perception changes. And yes, the building was shaking in 2002.
I can vividly remember the ESPN guys during that series talking about the NVMC the same way they are now about Joe Louis. Words like initmate were thrown around. It’s crazy how much winning shapes everything.
I’m constantly reminding my fellow Mets fans of that when all the “sources w/ knowledge of the team” report that Santana won’t pitch this year, or the Mets can’t afford Jose Reyes.
When it rains it pours.
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Great post, WebBard
And rmblifn, I agree with your post (although the title was misleading). As a younger man, I was there for the last two playoff rounds (where we didn’t fare too well) and it felt electric. But the feel now is more of a family oriented place. I would have no problem bringing my two young sons there (as long as they weren’t playing the Flyers / Rangers / Devils / Bruins / etc., where fights in the crowd / parking lot may occur).
All but maybe 4-5 teams would KILL for our history…..but wow I never realized how bad it’s been (.377 since Al? Um…..wow). To me, the Islanders represent rooting for your home (it’s the only true Long Island team), and unlike the Mets (terrible, immoral present owners) and the Jets (who I love but can’t get a third job to afford tickets, and when I go, I have to deal with crazy drunken people all around me), I really want Charles and Garth to succeed.
It’s really easy to be a fan of a team that wins all the time. But fans of the Islanders (and the other non successful recent franchises) takes work, and heart. I know we will be in the playoffs next year, and I am fairly confident that this team, if it continues in this direction with no more devastating front office mistakes, will be in the finals soon.
Thank you Matt Moulson!
It doesn't hurt being an Islander fan....but it sure hurts playing for them...get well soon, um, everybody....
by CharlieIsles on Mar 25, 2011 7:42 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Just to clarify
The rules have changed since Arbour has left, so I just compared wins to games played when coming up with .377. That doesn’t include OTLs or Ties.
My personal opinion of the Jets is that Woody cares more about making money then winning. He wants to win because a winning team is more profitable, but he is obviously squeezing every cent out of the fans possible. Give me Hess any day, he wanted a champion and you believed him when he said it.
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Awesome
Makes you think that probably half of long island has an Islander Jersey in there closet waiting to come out. New York Islander Jerseys were issued if you lived in the suburbs, they came in the mail with samples tide. (WW)
“this is when they used to fire that horn like there was no tomorrow. boy, arent the playoffs great?” awesome too.
“Islanders Hockey, Were back” shirts should come back next march if it looks like we are going to make the playoffs.
I like...
The Islanders Hockey, We’re Back idea.
I would LOVE one of those!
My other shirt wishlist right now is a Haley one because I am really digging him more and more…..almost in a cougar-ish like manner, and I need to plan for a new jersey to wear to these games here in Pittsburgh.
Native LI'er living in the land of Black & Gold.
by JW1970 on Mar 25, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
These young players are dynamic
This is really going to be a team people will want to cheer for. It’s not the boring trap of the Swamp Demons. It’s not the cheap hooks and slashes of a Pittsburgh. Fast skilled players who can shoot, deke, hit cleanly, and work hard to get points. Next year starts the bandwagon.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
UPDATE: NYISLANDERS TWEET
Andrew MacDonald is out for the rest of the season with a right hip labral tear. Ty Wishart is recalled on loan from Bridgeport. #Isles
:'-(
So much for the drive for five hundred.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Mar 25, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Islanders Hip strikes again
CRAPOLA.
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I posted this in the Fan Post as well
He’res the bulk of the article for those outside the paywall.
The Islanders defenseman will have the same operation to repair a torn labrum that fellow defensemen Mike Mottau and Mark Eaton had earlier this year. He’s expected to be on crutches for at least two months and it will be close to September’s training camp before he can skate again.
MacDonald, who emerged this season as the team’s top blueliner, said he’s been trying to play through the nagging pain in his left hip since early February, but now that the Isles are all but eliminated from the playoff race, he decided to have the surgery that numerous hockey and baseball players have had, Alex Rodriguez, Marian Gaborik and Rick DiPietro among them.
“It’s not something that’s impossible to play through, but everyone just felt that at this point in the season, it’s best to try and be prepared for next season,” said MacDonald, who finishes the year with four goals, 23 assists and a plus-9 rating in 60 games, while averaging a team-high 23:24 of ice time per game. “A lot of this game is mental, and I tried to just play my game, play a smart game, but at the end there it was starting to bother me a bit.”
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
Great article
I usually go to about 3 games a year. So far I’ve been to about 5, and I have tickets for the Pens game. I didn’t even mind going solo a couple times when nobody else was free. I can’t decide if I’m going to wear my isles jersey or my new custom Vukota islanders shirt I got recently to the Pens game…
This year is kinda special too.
Forget for a moment that the November to remember forget demolished any chance of the Islanders competing for a playoff spot. This team has had a remarkable and entertaining season despite the rash of injuries that saddled the Islanders with over 500 man games lost to injury. More than 100 games the next team incurred.
This season is the best example of a successful season without making the playoffs. Now if we turned this season inside out … and the Islanders were playing the first 3 months of this season the way they played the last 3 months … and then had a March and April that was the same as the October / November they just had … We’d all be devestated and disappointed … and calling for Garth’s head. Charges that the Islanders couldn’t handle the pressure of fighting for a playoff spot. They could of been the Colorado Avalance of 2010 / 2011… But they are not.
What has become important here is the way they responded to the crash of Novemeber. They never gave up on the season … and this will go a long way to helping them learn to respond to the inevitable pitfalls that will be laid out before them when they are a contender. They’ll already know what it feels like to fight their way through adversity.
This team is sooooooooo likable … and there are some kids on their way to developing in NCAA , Europe and CHL that will enhance the Islanders’ depth and skill level. The only sad thing is that there are some real likable guys on the Isles right now that will not be a part of the winning when it happens. That’s sports folks …
As a kid, only a few years into being a baseball fan I remember when Bobby Bonds was traded from the Yankees for Mickey Rivers and Willie Randolph … Bonds was one of my favorites … but Mick and Willie were a huge part of the Yankees winning in 77 and 78.
Then there was JP Parise … I was only a hockey fan for a year or two … but JP was already one of my favorite Islanders … Kinda I guess the same way Franzy is a favorite to fans today. I remember when I read that JP was dealt to Cleveland with other fan favorites Merrick and Jean Potvin … yeeeouch. I couldn’t even tell you who we got in return for them … but even though it sounds ridiculous I think it was Darcy Regier … I’m sure we got more return for that … but I just don’t remember.
Regardless, that opened up things for rookie Mike Bossy and Brian Trottier to become my favorite players. See how things work out?
I guess what I’m saying is, no matter how much improved this team is … some of these guys just aren’t going to be a part of the Stanley Cup Parade down Northern Boulevard …. I kid I kid … I mean Broadway … they will be in NYC when they play in Queens after all … OK … I kid again … We’ll be watching the parade down the Hempstead TPK … That is if her royal highness Kate Murray gives the Isles a permit for a parade.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Mar 25, 2011 11:13 AM EDT reply actions
Did not recall Merrick being dealt and then brought back for the Cup run.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
19 Isles in NJ, may be right 1919
I just looked up Wayne Merrick’s bio and stats:
1976-77 Cleveland Barons NHL 80 18 38 56 25 - - - - -
1977-78 New York Islanders NHL 37 10 14 24 8 7 1 0 1 0
1977-78 Cleveland Barons NHL 18 2 5 7 8 -- - - -
1978-79 New York Islanders NHL 75 20 21 41 24 10 2 3 5 2
by Russel Ginart on Mar 25, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Wayne Merrick
1975-76 California Seals NHL 56 25 27 52 36 - - - - -
1976-77 Cleveland Barons NHL 80 18 38 56 25 -- - - -
1977-78 New York Islanders NHL 37 10 14 24 8 7 1 0 1 0
1977-78 Cleveland Barons NHL 18 2 5 7 8 - - - - —
1978-79 New York Islanders NHL 75 20 21 41 24 10 2 3 5 2
1979-80 New York Islanders NHL 70 13 22 35 16 21 2 4 6 2
1980-81 New York Islanders NHL 71 16 15 31 30 18 6 12 18 8
1981-82 New York Islanders NHL 68 12 27 39 20 19 6 6 12 6
1982-83 New York Islanders NHL 59 4 12 16 27 19 1 3 4 10
1983-84 New York Islanders NHL 31 6 5 11 10 1 0 0 0 0
by Russel Ginart on Mar 25, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
He's right, I just didn't recall that he went to Cleveland.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
Wayne Merrick was Not Traded Back to Cleveland by the Islanders
From any media guide. Merrick was traded by Cleveland, along with Darcy Regier, to the Islanders for J.P. Parise and Jean Potvin in January 1978. The Cleveland stats for Merrick in 1977-78 are PRIOR TO to his trade to the Islanders.
Merrick played for the Islanders from January 1978 through 1984. The Islanders bought out his contract on June 21, 1984. Here’s his transactions from Legends of Hockey:
http://www.legendsofhockey.net/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/SearchPlayer.jsp?player=13714
by rmblifn on Mar 25, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really well done, Web
I think this is spot-on. Just like Howie said a couple of weeks ago, the turnaround will be more rewarding for the fans who’ve stood by the team all the way through the rebuilding process. Fort Neverlose will be the place to be soon enough.
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Great article!
Years ago as a young man I began following the Isle’s in the 70’s right through the glory years and up into the “demise” years. Got away from the game but have been gradually coming back since my son son deveolped a interest in the game 3 or 4 years ago. (Damn kid is a hawk fan since we live only 2 hours away from Chi-town)
Anyway I started following the isle’s hard again at the start of this season. A couple things stand out to me. 1) These kids remind me so much of those years, expectations , up and down play ect. Belive me we all used to complain the about the hall of famers the same way when they started playing! over the the course of time the bad nights went away, then the bad peroids, then the bad shifts! Soon we had 4 cups!
Now I don’t belive we are anywhere close to point here yet, but man , i can sure see some of similarities and maybe….. just maybe, the light is getting brighter at the top of the lighthouse.
2) What a great thing this internet thing is! In the old days living in Indiana I had to wait by my mailbox for The Hockey News to get any info about my team. If we had this back the then I.m sure the isle’s would have been a much bigger item nationally and maybe the culture would have been a bit differnet . Still would have had some leaner years as the stars aged, but the ownership picture may have been a bit different.
Thanks for for listening to a old man ramble and glad to be on this site. Freas meat have at me!
by skeeterman on Mar 25, 2011 12:02 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Love this
Believe me we all used to complain the about the hall of famers the same way when they started playing! over the the course of time the bad nights went away, then the bad peroids, then the bad shifts! Soon we had 4 cups!
Heh, nice.
And yeah, team info via THN? I remember those days.
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What a great post :)
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Mar 29, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
old #9!
jethro was my man! played a tad bit smarter the Trevor does also. If we keep Trev around his off season should be to review all the tape of Clark.
"We aren't that far removed from a nurse yelling at the Islanders that they were losers as they did a public appearance."
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