Is the Montoya deal Garth Snow's version of the Jason Blake trade?
by Jones79 on Mar 17, 2011 2:42 PM EDT
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A under-valued player trade for little more than a bag of pucks. One came under the wild reign of that other guy who likes to hit fans over the head with their own shoes, and Al Montoya, too found his way to the Island in a similiar "minor" deal. Can Montoya be Garth Snow's Jason Blake?
Jason Blake He was acquired by the New York Islanders in a trade with the Los Angeles Kings in January 2001. The Islanders sent a conditional pick in 2002 to the Kings for Blake. Jason set career highs in goals and points during the 2005-06 with 28 and 57, respectively. The following season he topped both totals, scoring 40 goals and 69 points. The 40th goal was scored against the Toronto Maple Leafs on April 5, 2007.
On February 9, 2011, Montoya was traded to the New York Islanders for a sixth round draft pick in 2011.
Both were college players, though Blake signed as a free agent with L.A. and never had the pedigree that Montoya came with into the NHL. That said, Montoya had lost much of his luster since being drafted sixth overall by the Rangers in 2004.
Are the deals comparable? Does dealing for Montoya show, once again, that Snow is a capable GM? Was the Milbury deal for Blake his best move ever ( a momentary lapse into reason for Mad Mike)? I'd like to know your thoughts.
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The sample size is admittedly small.
But the last months would have been a complete disaster without the trade, not least for the young goaltenders who would have been hurt in the process. And who knows what a larger sample size will show us. The guy does show a lot of promise.
Too small a sample, and we have no idea if montoya will be here for many years as blake was.
Proud Islanders fan, the organization that iced the greatest team to ever play the game and won 4 straight cups. Best overall player in the nhl right now=Pavel Datsyuk.
I'm also an optimistic Knicks fan, pessimistic Mets fan, and a happy Jets fan.
Said it before....
I’d hate this month to be the Montoya audition in front of the league. Yes, he’s restricted, so Garth can refuse to let another team take him, but with a team salary that requires Yashin to be on it to meet the league MINIMUM, I can’t help but wonder how much Snow will be allowed to spend on him.
I love what he’s done so far, but why still wear a Coyote helmet when he’s been an Islander all this time? Roli had been a Tampa player for all of a week and he debuted his God-of-Tunder-Thor helemt. Sure, he’s earned way more money over the years than El Cubano Grande, but couldn’t someone float him a few bucks for a new lid? It just makes me wonder about how he feels about this team.
by FLIslesfan22 on Mar 18, 2011 5:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree about the helmet...but
It hurts my eyes- sand & the royal blue and orange are like broccoli flavored ice cream. Terrible.
But, like many, many goalies before him, he’s probably superstitious (insane?) and is keeping that mask until he needs a change of luck. And as long as his luck keeps him playing like he’s playing, I’ll shut up and chew my broccoli ice cream.
Helmet will go eventually
To be honest I sort of like it, maybe because it is a reminder of the crazy year the Isles have had in net. And I’m sure it’s a superstition thing, he seems to be very happy on the team.
Milbury's master work...
was assembling that 2001-02 team. Starting with the coaching staff.
Peter Laviolette…then he scewed it up after teh flollowing year.
Laperriere…maybe best asst coach in Islander History.
Cronin and Miller… good solid staff.
Yashin.. if Wang doesn’t do the over the top deal, maybe $7M for 5 years… all is forgotten.
Peca… good deal at the time.
Aucoin
Hamrlik
Jonnson
Osgood fell in his lap
Bates… he basically stole out of the bruins system… scrap heaper akin to Moulson. (not that good, but you get it)
Blake was a monster in college.. definitely worth the bag of pucks…
(Biggest question about Blake, when does the organization know about his cancer?) that’s a Snow, not Milbury question.
He was finally given a chance with an owner that would spend some money… and then he blew it all to hell.
Snow hasn’t made any HUGE mistakes yet. The RDP deal has got to fall on Wang… The Nolan deal was an issue, because a GM really should have his own coach in place… well.. he did screw that one up to some extent. But fixed it before it really broke expectations.
So now we come to a deal that is supposedly started by a Don Maloney phone call… I’m gonna say that unless Montoya is on the Island and plays 150 games in three years… Blake was a better deal. but right now it’s too small a sample.
And SNOW’S MASTERWORK IS FAR BETTER THAN Milbury’s…ALREADY!
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Reading that list is like watching a bad horror movie
Everything is falling into place, but you have a mad man in the background (we already knew he was mad….right?) with some ominous music playing (Peca blows out the knee). Everything seems like it will be ok while the kiddies are in summer camp, but there isn’t a good feeling….then the-one-who-shall-not-be-named then goes on a killing spree (ok, a trading/not-resigning spree) and we’re left wondering why, why now?
Unfortunately, most movies are 1.5 hours….this one took 7 years to end.
we don't even know what the intention for Montoya are for next season
so it is hard to say. we have to see how much they play him next year
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No, Garth Snow's version of the Blake trade was acquiring Matt Moulson and Michael Grabner
And like Blake, Moulson came from the Kings no less.
true, true
I didn’t know that Moulson was acquired in a deal with LA, I thought he was signed as a free agent. And Grabner is more akin to me to a Osgood waiver wire deal since it wasn’t a trade.
Truthbomb
Moulson was signed as a free agent, not a trade.
by Fabtraption on Mar 19, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
bum bum bum
Proud Islanders fan, the organization that iced the greatest team to ever play the game and won 4 straight cups. Best overall player in the nhl right now=Pavel Datsyuk.
I'm also an optimistic Knicks fan, pessimistic Mets fan, and a happy Jets fan.
Judging goalies
Much to soon to say that Montoya can hold or even come near his fast start next season.
Both are gritty players. Goalies end up developing a style and doing their homework on opposing players. The same is true of opposing players learning the weakness’s of goalies. Although offensive lineman also have definite moves there are many more of them and a goalies homework is more difficult just in terms of the numbers of different players he must deal with. What I’m trying to say here is that a study of comparisons is fair, but misleading and therefore all you can say about the Blake/Montoya question is its too soon to say whether Montoya ’s acquisition is of the same value as Blake.
AGREED
If I may add: Goaltenders develop at a different rate than skaters. Montoya may have already developed as a quality NHL starter, but there is not enough sample to declare this the same as the Blake trade.ADDITIONALLY: Former discarded Islander goalie, Joey McDonald played great for the Red Wings last night, could he be finally developing into a good NHL goalie?
by Russel Ginart on Mar 18, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
we gravitate towards any goalie that plays well for a month
he’s good. but maybe wait a little for the comparison to a player that played well for 6 years
islander fans seem to want to give parades down the tnpk for every goalie that likes playing here and plays well for a month without getting injured. actually in poulin’s case even if they do get injured.
if they have him here next season they need to show the clip from princess bride on the big screen every game he plays
by Khan Noonien Singh on Mar 24, 2011 6:27 PM EDT reply actions
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