New York Islanders Prospects in College
by Dominik on Mar 14, 2011 6:15 AM EDT
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This topic came up in comments for WebBard's latest Bridgeport/prospect report, and it's a good one we should have around here as a permanent resource: Simply, what year each college-bound Islanders draft pick is in 2010-11.
It's useful context when dreaming about when such players might hit the NHL -- or, alternatively, when wondering if such players still have time to turn into a real prospect.
As indicated, the following table lists the class for these prospects as of the 2010-11 year (plus draft figures and interview links where applicable):
Islanders Prospects Currently in College
| Player | Pos | Draft | Rnd | Pick | College | Class (2010-11) | Notes |
| Jason Clark | F | 2010 | 3 | 82 | Wisconsin | FR | LHH Interview (2010) |
| Brian Day | F | 2006 | 6 | 171 | Colgate | SR | article with NYI scout |
| Jason Gregoire | LW | 2007 | 3 | 76 | North Dakota | JR | ND player page |
| Anders Lee | C/LW | 2009 | 6 | 152 | Notre Dame | FR | LHH Interview (2010) |
| Brock Nelson | F | 2010 | 1 | 30 | North Dakota | FR | |
| Corey Trivino | C | 2008 | 2 | 36 | Boston U. | JR | Praise for Trivino (Feb.) |
| Matt Donovan | d | 2008 | 4 | 96 | Denver U. | SO | WCHA 2nd Team nod |
| Blake Kessel | d | 2007 | 6 | 166 | UNH | JR | |
| Aaron Ness | d | 2008 | 2 | 40 | Minnesota | JR | Update: Leaving? |
| Shane Sims | d | 2006 | 5 | 126 | Ohio State | SR | |
| Cody Rosen | g | 2010 | 7 | 185 | Clarkson | SO |
Trivia: Still listed on the Islanders prospect page but long gone from college is Jase Wislosky, a 2006 pick (4th round, 108 overall) who played well at St. Cloud State but transferred to Bemidji State after reportedly being academically ineligible. He finished up at Bemidji and already turned pro. He's moved around the ECHL some, ending up with the Florida Everblades this month -- where he didn't play a game before getting traded again, to the Ontario (Calif.) Reign, for whom he starred in a victorious 35-save debut this weekend. None of this matters, but since he was there I thought I'd do a "where are they now?" check on him.
College Prospects This Month
Much of this was covered in WebBard's update yesterday, but here's where those kids are right now as the NCAA season winds down.
Still playing:
- Last night, Lee's Notre Dame avoided an upset against Lake Superior State by winning yesterday.
- Also from yesterday, Trivino's BU was upset in the best-of-three series by Northeastern, so his season is done.
- And the final game relevant (to us) from yesterday: Day's Colgate is moving on to the ECAC semis after beating Union in three games.
- Gregoire and Nelson's North Dakota smoked Michigan Tech and move on.
- Kessel's UNH advanced to the Hockey East semis, which are this Friday.
Done for now:
- Sims, Ohio State's top scoring defenseman (3-16-19) this season, saw his college career end when the Buckeyes were taken out by Lake Superior State last week.
- Clark's U. of Wisconsin was eliminated by Colorado College. Clark didn't see a whole lot of ice this year as a freshman (including the playoffs, where he didn't dress), but of course that's not uncommon treatment for first-years.
- Ness' Minnesota team was swept by Alaska-Anchorage. Some reaction from SBN's Daily Gopher here. UPDATE: A bit of Twitter buzz that Ness may be leaving, from this Gopher follower here, and this College Hockey News writer here.
- Not that he played in the playoffs, but Rosen and his Clarkson team were eliminated, and some of their guys are hitting the pro ranks.
Obviously the two to keep an eye on in terms of an imminent decision are the two seniors, Day and Sims. But you never know who else might receive an offer at least worth thinking about.
If there's anyone else not mentioned here, or if you have other links and insight to share, leave 'em in comments. I'll keep the table above in mind and update it for next year after this June's draft, when the next Lee or Rosen may be found.
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Can an ELC be less than 3 years in length?
I would like to see what Day and Sims could do in BPort for a year or so.
Yes in Article 9 of CBA
It Depends on Age
(18 – 21) 3 years
(22 – 23) 2 Years
(24) 1 Year
For the ELC Contract
by Alex Kinkead on Mar 14, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Ah! Thanks
Yes, what Alex said. I was confusing my “age when drafted” and “age when signed” rules.
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Age of players
And just so I don’t muck anything up further, here is what “age” means for Article 9:
As used in this Article, “age,” including “First SPC Signing Age,” means a Player’s age on September 15 of the calendar year in which he signs an SPC, regardless of his actual age on the date he signs such SPC.
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It's Confusing
More Rules:
Players Over 25 are exempt unless they are from Europe then aged 25 – 27 get a 1 year ELC
by Alex Kinkead on Mar 14, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Every time I sift through it
I think I need to make a chart titled, “What’s My Age Again?”
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A Blink 182 ref? How did you go from Killing Joke to Blink 182?
by metalcoconut on Mar 15, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Ages
By the way, both Sims and Day are 22 now and will be 23 by Sept. 15.
Anders Lee, though a freshman in 2010-11, will be 21 in July.
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Hopefully, what it means...
is that even though college life is fun… but the prospects of being in the NHL next January could be funner. Who knows what Ander’s pr*j*cts to in the AHL next year, but get him under the organization’s coaching staff, AND FIND OUT! At elast find out if he’s interested.
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Anders
Anders spent a year in the USHL after he was drafted out of HS and was 20 year old frosh this year. I’ve heard someone around here on LHH (going to take a stab in the dark here and assume it was BCISLEMAN because we know about his man-crush on Anders) who has said that he read that Anders plans on finishing his four years with Notre Dame before signing and moving to the pro level. This would be dissapointing because I think with his e USHL experience plus experience with in the NCAA he is more than physically and mentally ready for the jump to the AHL. 22 goals and 19 assists through 39 games as a freshman is pretty damn impressive. Teammate and first round 2010 draft pick Riley Sheahan only put up 17 points/37 games as a frosh and has 18points through 35 games this season. Not to mention that Anders has an inch in height and 18 lbs on Sheahan who was ranked so high last year partially on his size.
Also...compare his numbers to KO's
Kyle Okposo had 19 goals and 21 assists through 40 games as a freshman. This was also after a year in the USHL (58 points in 50 games) Pretty comparable to Lee’s 66 points in 59 USHL games last season and 41 points through 39 games as freshman in the NCAA. The difference is that Lee’s season in the USHL and freshman NCAA year he was a year older than KO was when he played there. Probably makes a bigger difference than it would seem but the comparision is still suprising and I think shows how good Lee has been. Kudos to bcisleman because he was raving about Lee before he was even in the USHL.
BC?....BC?
Bueller…?
(Where ya been, guy?)
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I don't think
Lee’s numbers are comparable to Okposo’s, just because they are such different teams too.
This Notre Dame team is really stacked. A lot of the Freshmen are coming off great runs in the USHL.
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You could argue Minnesota was stacked too
Didn’t they have a bunch of NHLers on that squad? Wheeler, Goligoski, Johnson I think…and Baribell looked like a star.
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differently though, I thought KO wasn’t getting enough ice time due to the amount of talent on the team?
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I think he was getting ice time
(That was year one, then he left during the next year.) But I don’t know for sure, that whole situation is still odd to me.
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Of course it is hard to compare but..
Yeah, of course, and I mentioned the age difference. Just wanted to point out the similarities in numbers. Not saying that Lee is as good as Okposo or that he has outperformed him at comparable levels. I think the difference in age makes a big difference. It still gives you pause though and Lee has been very impressive at evel level so far. No dissapointments, no major hiccups in his devolopment and is becoming more and more of an exciting prospect every year, no?
plus
I think the ability to move to higher level of play and immediatly make an impact and score consistently is what most impresses me about Lee. I was actually fairly skeptical about Lee when BCisleman first started raving about him a couple years ago. I told him “let’s wait and see how he plays in more competive leagues.” Well, I’m a believer now because he (so far…) has stepped it up every move up the ladder
Not necessarily 4 years
He wants a degree. It doesn’t mean he cannot get it done early. The guy is smart as hell. He had Ivy League offers. He’s at least was dead set on finishing school. I’m thinking it means he’s two years away, really.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
Brock
I’ve been able to watch my fair share of UND games this season and I can see why Garth traded up to draft Brock Nelson. While statistically he got off to slow start he’s one of those players you have to watch to appreciate. He has been used as a checking center by UND but his scoring has picked up in the last couple of months. Also thought he looked good at the World Juniors. Seems to have pretty good speed and stickhandling for a big guy. I think its to early to predict what kind of role he would have at the professional level but he is versatile enough where if his scoring never devolops at the pro level he could be a good defensive forward. But I also think with his size and skill he could devolop into a second line two-way playmaking center. It will be a few years before he has a chance to crack the Isles roster and it will be interesting to see how his game devolops until then
by MatthewM11 on Mar 14, 2011 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
He seemed to get better when he was moved to Gregoire's line
I’ve watched a bunch of the UND games too and I’m liking both. Gregoire’s got some creativity and a great shot and Brock is a rock. I hope it all translates to the pro level.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
Interesting
So we are looking @ Casey Cizikas, Brian Day, Calvin DeHaan, Tony Dehart and Shane Sims as the most likely additions to Bridgeport next year, barring Snow luring someone away from school early (Nino will be too young to send to the Bridge).
If those five are signed to Bridgeport, it is interesting when you look at the list of prospects that may not yet be in the fold:
Left Wings
Nino will either be in NHL or back to juniors one more year
Gregoire will be in college
Martin & Joensuu (RFA) are in system
Figren may not be around
Centers
Anders Lee – college
Brock Nelson – college
Casey Cizikas – can be signed to Bridgeport
David Ullstrom – in system
Jason Clark – college
Corey Trivino – college
Justin DiBenedetto – in system
David Toews – college
Right Wingers
Brian Day – can be signed to Bridgeport
Kirill Kabanov – Juniors
Kirill Petrov – Russia one more year
Rhett Rakhshani – in system
Defensemen
Travis Hamonic – in system
Tony DeHart – can be signed to Bridgeport
Ty Wishart – in system
Calvin de Haan – can be signed to Bridgeport
Dustin Kohn – in system
Aaron Ness – college
Blake Kessel – in college
Matt Donovan – in college
Anton Klementyev – in system
Mark Katic – in system
Shane Sims – can be signed to Bridgeport
Goaltenders
Kevin Poulin – in system
Anders Nilsson – needs to be signed, maybe loaned back to Sweden
Mikko Koskinen – in system
Cody Rosen – college
by CanadianIsleslifer on Mar 14, 2011 4:09 PM EDT reply actions
Calvin
It will be interesting to see how CDH does at BP. I am still really high on this kid. My only concern is that his point production had not picked up since his draft year but I like that he has gotten bigger and he seems to be a good all around defenseman. He’ll have to show that he can move the puck, run the PP and can put up some points at the professional level because he is still smallish and I don’t know that he can survive at higher levels as a shutdown type.
Figren
Figren is more than likely going back to Sweden after this season. Not too long ago, Bridgeport’s beat writer asked him about rumors of numerous Swedish teams interested in signing him after this season. Figren gave the, “I’m focused on finishing this year…” answer. Which basically means he’s leaving. I bet the Islanders continue to qualify him as an RFA anyway, like they did with Colliton when he went to Europe.
when I asked Fornabaio..
on his Tuesday chat, that is EXACTLY what he said. That Figren would most likely be tendered an offer so that the Isles could retain his rights, like they did with Colliton.
If he continues to grow (talent/maturity) he could show up here, but with a more legit chance to play NHL hockey. That chance does not exist for him next year. Especially if they are going to make room for Nino, and Dibo, Jesse, Ullstrom and Rhett ahead of him on the call-up list.
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Nice job on MF's chat by the way
Good to see you there!
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moving centers to wing
Being that we are fairly deep at center (especially two-way/defensive centers- Nelson, Lee, Cizikas, Trivino, Ullstrom, Toews) it will be interesting who gets moved to wing. Really only Nelson, Lee and maybe Cizikas are the only ones that I see as possible top six forwards (although I think more likely project as solid two-way checking line forwards) With Tavares, Nielsen and Bailey hopefully part of the teams long term future, if some of those centers in our system prove to be NHL capable players most will have to be moved to wing. Of course quite a few of those guys at center are longer term projects (like Nelson and Lee) and who knows what the team will look like in 3-5 years. Anyway, this is a good problem to have.
Twitter abuzz about Ness leaving
This tweet, from a College Hockey News writer:
Early departures have begun! @hammyhockey: To those emailing, yes… Aaron Ness is leaving. Heard from 3 good sources now.
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His was a retweet
Of this one. We’ll see.
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More reason to believe..
that at least three players will be voted off the Island.
Logical flow: (all players with NHL contracts)
Streit returns. #1
MacDonald stays. #2
Hamonic stays. #3
Jurcina stays. #4
Martinek is allowed to walk away… possibly #5/6
Eaton is a candidate for draft day trade. possibly #5/6
Mottau is a candidate for a draft day trade. possibly #5/6
Gervais gets Bergenhiemed
Hillen is extended as #7 D.
Wishart is extended as #1 in BPT
Katic is extended as #2 in BPT
deHaan #3 in BPT
DeHart #4 in BPT
Kohn is extended as #5 in BPT (looked good in NHL, oft injured) RFA this year.
Klementyev signed as #6 in BPT
If they sign Marty and have both Mottau and Eaton on the NHL roster next year there is no room for expansion for another UFA defender. That’s okay, but would there be room to add deHaan, Dehart AND Ness… I would suspect Ness is leaving Minn to play in the ECHL… with the hopes of becoming Andy MacDonald. I think I’d finish school if I was him. Even if the Isles don’t take a defenseman in teh first two rounds Aaron Ness is so far down on the depth chart you’d have to use an oil drill to find him.
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aaron
I have a copy of a 2009 Hockey News that listed JT as our number 1 prospect and Aaron Ness was actually listed second behind him. He was ahead of Hamonic, De Haan, Petrov etc. This was after his freshman year at Minnesota, where he put up 2g and 15a in 37 games…not bad for a freshman defenseman, but not great either. For perspective, Matt Donovan, taken 56 spots after Ness in the draft, put up 7 goals and 14 assists in is frosh year with Denver. That was after a second year in the USHL though; he was a 19 y/o freshman. I think a lot of people like myself were expecting ahuge jump in production from Ness as a sophomore. Blake Kessel went from a 13 point freshman year (in 37 games) with UNH to a 38 point in 38 game sophomore campaign. Still, Ness has intriguing skills, but you are right, he has played himself to pretty far down on the depth chart- among even collegiate defenseman; not just system wide. I would Donovan, Kessel and probably Sims higher than him at this point. We won’t know for sure though until we see them at a higher level of play
I've seen Ness (2G) and Donovan(3G)
I have not seen Kessel or Sims… from what I’ve seen of Ness, he would be INVISIBLE in the AHL, and probably killed in a week in the NHL. Donovan is probably a year or two of professional coaching away from being A-Mac-esque… unfortunateyl that job is taken… so he will most likely provide excellent support to what is becoming a very good AHL defenisve corps. (as opposed to “corpse” which is what they were this year.)
If the Isles retain Reese, then Ness could leave college, but not for the Islanders. I wonder if they could get anything for his rights. Maybe the Wild could pair him with Spurgeon.
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I’ll admit I haven’t seen Ness, but this is the first time I’ve heard anything bad about him.
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Don't take this the wrong way...
You do a weekly analysis of Islanders prospects and you haven’t seen him play yet. Isn’t that bad enough?
From his “Islander” 2008 draft class, only him, Toews and Trivino have gone “un-noticed”. Everybody else was honored with a WJC selection or are already playing PROFESSIONAL HOCKEY.
1. Bailey… NHL
2. Trivino.. squadoosh
2. Ness… squadoosh
2. Hamonic… WJC…AHL…NHL
3. Toews… squadoosh
3. Niemi….AHL
3. Petrov… WJC…KHL
4. Donovan…WJC
4. Ullstrom…WJC AHL
5. Poulin… AHL NHL
5.Martin… AHL NHL
6. Spurgeon… AHL NHL (MINN)
6. Dibenedetto…AHL NHL
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Yeah I tend to agree
Though in the games I saw (was watching Ness play just morning from a DVRed game from last night) and he was on Minnesota’s second pair and he looked fine in his own zone and jumped into the play a few times. Still, he doesn’t stand out especially and I agree he would run over at the pro level. Seen Kessel last season a few times and got a lot of TOI and looked good in both zones. Same with Donovan when I’ve seen him.
Wow, Spurgeon and Ness paired together, that would be interesting. Imagine them trying to contain a Joe Thornton or other 6-4 power-forwards. I’d love to see Spurgeon or Ness paired with Chara or Myers. Maybe the difference in size could screw with opposing forward’s depth perception, like an optical illusion. You think Spurgeon is far away because he so small and then boom, he sends you flying with a hip check.
I would finish college too
I know it’s tempting, and if it’s true that Minnesota/Lucia are somehow not good for his development then it could feel like another “wasted” year, but man, at his size he already faces long odds.
Then again, maybe the degree is easier to finish from afar at this point…and maybe the tail chase gets old. If he can start his pro career and finish his degree from afar soon then win-win.
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I was thinking the same thing...
ECHL/Get credits to finish his degree anywhere…
I have a friend that played 3 years of all-american level baseball at Purdue, but said he had to get his education at Wisconsin because there just wasn’t much learnin’ going on.
He also is famous for having the same clothes on for his first drivers license pics, and his first DUI mugshot.
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I know a guy
Who pulled off the latter. However, I’m not sure Carhartts should really count.
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Kohn is extended as #5 in BPT (looked good in NHL, oft injured) RFA this year.
Klementyev signed as #6 in BPT
I’d expect BP to start the season next year with 7 or 8 Dmen, just in case.
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with the organizations luck
they might as well forgo a 4th line and start with 9-10 D
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I agree...
and maybe they carry 18 NHL contracts for defensemen between them. I listed 15 above and didn’t even count any college UFA’s they might sign, NHL UFA’s, AHL UFA’s or the non-NHL contract guys that have been filling that roster.
Kessel is ahead of him (RHer with size) IMHO in the pecking order, that doesn’t leave too much room for him to get ice time in the AHL.
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Bridgeport's D will look different
With Wishart, Katic, DeHaan, DeHart, Kohn and Klementyev in the AHL – and possibly Ness, that is seven D.
Dylan Reese I believe is the only vet D left that is under contract to Isles, with Wotton and Motherwell under contract to Bridgeport only. If I am correct, same goes for Wes O’Neill, and smailish Steve Tarasuk and Benn Olsen are on PTO contracts.
Hard to say if they would have room for Ness, I guess it depends on how many Dmen Bridgeport decides to keep with team. Those top six plus two of Reese, Motherwell, Wotton and O’Neill would move Ness down to number 9 on Bridgeport’s depth. Should be interesting off season, but if Ness is in Bridgeport, Snow will want him getting icetime.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Mar 15, 2011 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Wishart – Klementyev
DeHaan – Katic
Kohn – DeHart
Ness/Reese/Wotton/Motherwell
by CanadianIsleslifer on Mar 15, 2011 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Isles should try to sign Long Island Native Keith Kincaid
He is an undrafted free agent college goalie who is attracting a lot of scouts. This would give the Isles Kincaid, Poulin and Mikko in minors for when DP goes down, with Montoya already in NHL and Nilsson signed and playing in Sweden. Still some holes on the D, but more system depth then we’ve had in a very long time.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Mar 15, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
And Of Course, Isles have to decide on Shame Sims
if he is added to Bridgeport, it could get crowded for Ness
by CanadianIsleslifer on Mar 15, 2011 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I think they will have their Captain in a pairing.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Mar 15, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't there some talk about De Haan making the Isles this season out of camp?
I remember in his draft year and this past training camp hearing rumors that Snow and Gordon were having a tough time cutting De Haan and sending him back to Juniors. That they liked what he brought to the team. Obviously there was no way he was ready after his draft year as I think he was like 155 lbs or something, but I still remember hearing that Isles management and coaching were really impressed with De Haan. Personally I am all for giving De Haan at least one full year of devolopment in the AHL but is there any chance he could make the Isles out of training camp?
Ness
Ness hasn’t looked bad in the games I’ve seen and he has put up decent points but I don’t think his production really justifies his size. (5’10 170) I have been expecting a big breakout year statistically from him every year but his production has stayed almost exactly the same through three years of school. I have been a little dissapointed because I saw clips of him from High School and he looked like a miniature Bobby Orr out there, just stickhandling by everybody. He put up monster numbers in HS too. He was ranked as a first rounder for at least a little while in his draft year, but obviously concerns about his size pushed him back to the second. Still, I’d like to see him at least get a crack at the AHL if he does leave college. (weren’t there rumors last year about him leaving?)
That's what Gopher fans say, too
That he looked so good in HS but it didn’t translate to college. It’s hard to evaluate though, because there is a big contingent of fans that think Lucia has messed up over the last four years. I don’t know enough about NCAA to tell how a decorated coach gets stupid overnight though. (Simple competition for his players?)
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Donovan is further along
but you never know what will happen at the next level. I mean who would have thought AMac would be the player he is today?
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
Yeah good point
And maybe a year in the USHL before his freshman would have served Ness good, maybe it wouldn’t of made a difference at all. I think Garth knew he was taking a big chance on Ness. Besides his size it is also hard to gauge High School players. Its not like taking someone out of the OHL. You can dominate high school and then not even make a dent at the collegiate level. We’ve seen that with Clark this year.
That has to make Snow happy
I’d bet the odds are Isles are planning to try to fix his career in Bridgeport.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Mar 14, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Watching College Hockey is going to have more meaning:
The 2011 Draft aside, out of Isles prospects not in system,
Nino probably makes NHL as a top 9 forward – otherwise, Nino and Kabanov would be only Junior prospects
- we have eight college prospects plus Ness;
and Nilsson has to be signed and probably loaned back to Sweden.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Mar 14, 2011 11:54 PM EDT reply actions
Although this is (perhaps) a conflict of interest,
I just watched Day and his Raiders beat my Union Dutchmen in a heartbreaking series. Day showed very little class (along with the rest of ’Gate), as he and his teammates continually taunted the opposing bench and the crowd…
Just had to get that off my chest.
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From your chest to our eyes
I don’t watch much, but does it strike you there is more that sort of taunting in college hockey? I often get a frat boy vibe.
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There is, especially with teams with--ahem--less than stellar coaches.
It seems as if the good programs cultivate their players to be professional. Union has an excellent track record there, as does Cornell (who’s program has been historically stellar). There’s a good deal of showmanship, though, from teams coached by less-than-well-respected staffs. Some coaches work hard to prevent players from the dreaded symptom of being D-1 athletes (especially in small schools) who feel an undeserved sense of entitlement. It is likely, in many ways, a harder position than in the NHL: after all, college players are younger, and therefore more prone to immaturity.
You cannot stop Jeremy Colliton. You can only hope to recall him. --Dom, LHH
Thanks for that insight
Yeah, I’m sure it’s harder to harness all that young energy mixed with immaturity. (Heh, there’s a reason societies put boys that age in the military!)
I have a weird fan relationship with the NCAA, partly because the quasi-pro setup and the high stakes for the kids (your FUTURE is on the line…now don’t screw up!) makes me uncomfortable. I know pros and college athletes each get protected to some degree, I just feel like with pros it’s more transparent. (This isn’t really worded well; like I said: weird.)
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1979-80
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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.
The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.
1980-81
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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.
Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.
1981-82
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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.
A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.
1982-83
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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.
Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.
