Ashes Sifting: Joensuu up, Koskinen and Martin remain; Poulin done for the season
The sun did come up (barely) today, club operations resumed, the team had practice. See if you can follow, per the Islanders: Rick DiPietro was officially placed on IR and Jesse Joensuu was recalled -- skating with Rob Schremp and Josh Bailey in practice -- to replace Jeremy Colliton (rib, two weeks). UPDATE: Kevin Poulin is done for the year with a dislocated kneecap requiring surgery.
Blake Comeau (concussion, day-to-day) skated in a non-contact jersey, and Nathan Lawson (MCL, day-to-day) skated too, but Mikko Koskinen and Joel Martin are the two goalies traveling with the team for tomorrow night's game in Montreal. Darren Dreger of TSN reports (and Katie Strang confirms) that Garth Snow is shopping for a "soft" deal for a goalie [FanShot here], but will ride things out until Lawson's return if the prices are too high.
If Martin sees any game action, he would be the sixth goalie to be used this year, which according to Eric Hornick would break the club record of five set in 1990-91 (Glenn Healy, Jeff Hackett, George Maneluk, Mark Fitzpatrick and Danny Lorenz) and matched in 1999-2000 (Stephen Valiquette, Wade Flaherty, Felix Potvin, Roberto Luongo and Kevin Weekes).
Breaking that record would be insane, but you know what? I've seen worse, in a situation most fans will remember, involving a bushel of former Islanders and one recent Islanders destroyer. This was quite the circular series of events:
Bonus ex-Islanders Story before we get to my not-exactly Islanders goalie tale: Dwayne Roloson gave up the tying goal last night against Buffalo when he was tripped in his crease by a Buffalo Sabre who was pushed there by ... wait for it ... Marc-Andre Bergeron. Irony is lovely, ain't it? The Sabres would score four more to win it 7-3.
Story Time
I mentioned this in last night's game thread, but in 2002-03 the St. Louis Blues compiled 99 points while using seven different goalies:
- Brent Johnson The Strong Fist ... 38 GP
- Fred Brathwaite The Dubie West ... 30 GP
- Chris Osgood The Islander... 9 GP
- Curtis Sanford The AAAAer... 8 GP
- Tom Barrasso The Cranky... 6 GP
- Reinhard Divis The Austrian ... 2 GP
- Cody Rudkowsky The Anonymous ... 1 GP
The Blues had cut bait on Roman Turek and handed a young Johnson the reins the year before, but they were discovering that Johnson's play dropped off once he no longer had to work for the starting job. (Brathwaite, a career backup, got 30 games that season for a reason.) A rather Islanders-esque run of injuries also mandated the use of so many prospects as well as the ill-fated resurrection of Barrasso, who floundered despite possessing ample Veteran Presence.
Though once heralded as a #1, the scuttlebutt from those close to the team was that Johnson was feeling a little too comfortable. They didn't trust him to carry the ball -- he'd end up becoming a career backup afterward -- which is why they looked East for a former Red Wing who had carried the Islanders to their first playoff series in eight years...
As the deadline neared and Mike Milbury was set to make room in the crease for the developing DiPietro (oh, remember that innocent time?), Mad Mike kept his eventual successor as GM (once removed) Garth Snow and dealt Osgood to the playoff-bound Blues. The Isles' 2003 3rd-round pick (Konstantin Barulin) also went in the deal, and you know who came back: Justin Papineau, plus St. Louis's 2nd-round pick in 2003 that became...Jeremy Colliton.
Osgood would shine for the Blues in the playoffs that year, but after building a 3-1 series lead on Vancouver -- with Doug Weight manning the powerplay point (left side this time) after Al MacInnis suffered an injury -- the Blues were hit by a club-wide flu bug that sapped them. They lost the final three games and blew the series.
The next year, pleased with Osgood and still discontent with Johnson, the Blues dumped Johnson to Phoenix in return for a very nice piece ... future Islander Mike Sillinger.
* * *
Regular LHHers know I follow both teams Osgood played for in 2002-03. The Blues, in fact, had a very strong team -- Weight called it the best Cup chance he had as a Blue -- but were stalled by the circus in the crease and then finished off by the flu in the room during that postseason.
In my darker fan moments, when I ponder the sequence of misfortune in seasons like these, I start to wonder: Maybe it's not them, but me?
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If it's anyone you've heard of it would likely be a salary dump then
It seems Snow will (smartly) not give up anything of value for an emergency goalie for the last third of a season already lost.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
Nab "oh fuck" ov
If he wanted to replenish his rep he would step up to the plate and man up…He would look like a pro who wanted to help a team in great need, in his position, and make him look really good in the process..It would look like a selfless act but in effect serve him well in the eyes of any contenders who may want his services….Too bad hes a shit head
by KO21 on Feb 9, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
IF he did decide to come
I wonder how the players would respond. If it would just cause a weird dynamic the locker room. Gotta think it would.
If he came in to play with a great attitude he would be accepted
and playing great would go a long way too…I doubt he would wanna play here simply due to the voo doo hex on goalies the Isles seem to be cursed with
Totally Agree
Nabokov should join the Isles and show that he can still play.
I make a mean peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
I was against tolling his contract since it would look petty, BUT
if the Islanders have to give up an asset to find a sixth string goaltender, he should be tolled. Time for him to man-up and be a professional and I’ll be willing to let bygones be bygones.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
Toll his ass
Show the NHL you can bully us only on the ice
by Torch7 on Feb 9, 2011 6:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
where is Dubie?
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Feb 9, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
This might cheer you guys up...
I remember while attending a goalie school several summers ago…there was a kid who dislocated his knee in a game the previous fall and had surgery soon after. Last I heard the knee is 100% and and I think the kid plays D1. One thing I do remember is that the kid looked great in the butterfly and that was like 7-8 months after his surgery. I figured I should share that.
by backstop87 on Feb 9, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
do you want to sign with the Isles and help us out?
You’re a goalie too, backstop? Has Garth called you yet to try out for the Isles? I think if not you should drive down to the Coliseum and see if get a contract. You’d have to be a better option for us; even if you’ve only played street hockey. You’ll have to upgrade from those plastic mylec goali pads though. Maybe DP or Poulin can lend you there.
In all seriousness though, do you play high school or college hockey?
BTW
Since this is my idea, I get to be your agent.
I forget who, but an NHL team this year actually did give a one day contract to some amateur former DII or DIII goalie who lived in NY state when the team was playing the rangers. They needed an emergency backup because one of there goalies came down with the flu. I think the story was actually posted on a fanshot on Lighthousehockey
I'm willing to sign just to get the knee surgery I already need
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actually my insurance covers me, please sing my dog for a tryout.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
I was gonna say
Surely the HIP Health Report would list you as “Hockey 1919 – pre-existing condition.”
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Really no such thing as D2 anymore..just D3 and D1.
Theres a select few schools that claim D2…but there independent(non conference)
Plastic Mylec Pads?
I’m more of a phone books and duct tape guy…although I did recently upgraded my glove to a Rawlings 1 basemens mitt…And the answer is yes…Garth called me.
Couch cushions
That is funny. When me and my brother used to play floor hockey we used to use these couch cushions roughly the size and shape of goalie pads and we used belts to fasten them on. This was back in the Kelly Hrudy/Ron Hextall stand-up goalie days so they didn’t get as ripped up then if we were emulating Felix Potvin but my Mom still got plenty pissed about what we did to her cushions, even if they were taken from the crappy basement couch.
I played high school
and d3 club after that…but developed something called “Plica syndrom” in my knee and that was the end of that…still play mens league at chelsea piers though
in other words....
There IS a team that actually can feel our pain.
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I feel bad for KP...
I’m sure he was looking forward to playing against the Habs.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Feb 9, 2011 1:54 PM EST reply actions
Possible goalie options?
That’s a pretty funny story… Strange how many connections could be made, from Osgood to Weight.
I wonder if Corey Schneider is available in Vancouver. Or how about that monster Nashville has for a backup, Lindberg?
These are young and talented goalies so I don’t know if Snow just wants a vet to plug in as starter for the rest of the season just to fill the role. I also heard Steve Mason of Columbus may be available, but again, another young goalie.
This sounds silly, but...
In terms of going after younger guys, I think if it’d be better to hear a diagnosis of Poulin’s injury first. If it’s a worst-case scenario, then it affects not just this year and early next year, but also creates more uncertainty about what he’ll be able to provide long-term.
Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.
Whoops: Dislocated knee, season-ender
I don’t know if that’s better than a ligament tear or not. I know guys with dislocated knees who are fine, but they recur every so often. (Of course, they’ve never had pro surgery to fix things.)
Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.
here's to hoping he doesn't use DP's surgeon...
Thats a nasty injury! I saw it happen to a kid when I was in high school at a wrestling camp. We were all messin’ around playing snakes in the grass (like sharks and minnows but without the pool) we were running across the mats when the kid who was it dove to grab someone. Wound up catching the kid’s knee cap and ripping it to the side. I almost wanna puke just thinking about it again.
Amen
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Feb 9, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
and here's some research i just did...
When the kneecap comes out of joint the first time, ligaments that were holding the kneecap in position are torn. The most commonly torn structure is called the medial patellofemoral ligament, or MPFL. This ligament secures the patella to the inside (medial) of the knee. When a kneecap dislocation occurs, something must fail to allow the kneecap out of the groove, and usually it is the MPFL.
Once the MPFL is torn, it often does not heal with proper tension, and the kneecap can subsequently dislocate more easily. That is why recurrent dislocation of the kneecap occurs in a high percentage of patients who have this injury.
Recent interest has developed in preventing these recurrent dislocations. Each time the kneecap dislocates, the cartilage can be injured, and the ligaments can become more stretched out. Some surgeons are trying to restore the normal anatomy by repairing the MPFL after a first-time dislocation. This surgery is controversial, because not all patients who dislocate their kneecap will have another dislocation. However, some patients would rather have the ligament repaired in an effort to lower the chance of having this become a repeat problem.
probably his best chance....
see my post below….been there done…..
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thanks
but it seems that it could bea minor set back, or it could be career threatening if it continues to dislocate.
I hurt my knee and never had surgery. it sucks, I have normal use no problem, and can walk or moderate jog, but can’t jog hard, biking actually hurts a lot, and stretching sucks. so for a goalie it has to be tough.
look at DP, an dlets hope Poulin is the opposite end of the scale
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Feb 9, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks
That sounds pretty consistent with the general circumstances of any dislocation, I guess. I think the immediate pain is worse when it dislocates and doesn’t pop back in during the trauma.
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Yea I understand,
ideally you don’t want to trade for a young unproven guy to fill in for our already young and unproven goalies… But it can’t hurt to have some prospects with a little more experience in the NHL than Koskinen and Lawson (forget about Martin and his below .900 Save% in the ECHL), even if they are only used for trades in 5 months.
I like the way you're thinking
I was just thinking of the approach of veteran cast-off 3rd stringer vs. prospect with real upside. Like I bet Vancouver will want something meaningful for Schneider, but considering our top two prospects have injury histories now, it might be worth looking into.
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Definitely agree
Van. would need something significant back. I don’t know much about the trade market for a young goalie, so I wonder what it would take to get him.. Our 2nd round pick? Too much/not enough?
Not enough, probably
On the one hand he’s unproven, but he’s had a fine year and his rights are still under RFA control for quite a while. So whereas a veteran pending UFA costs about a 2nd, a guy like him should cost more (even Campoli drew a late 1st, as a RFA).
But that said, the market shifts all the time. It only takes one Burke type to upset the balance.
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No Cooke revenge Friday
He was suspended for 4 games for (surprise, surprise) a dirty hit to Fedor Tyutin.
I was hoping he would have received an invitation to dance with Gillies on Friday.
I'm glad to see he got suspended
but the dirty SoB should have gotten more considering his past actions.
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Well, the Red Wings tried that, the Isles just foiled it.
The Isles can try it themselves- it would only cost money, not any picks or prospects.
If theres someone out there, all the Isles have to do is pay them enough where nobody would WANT to pick them up of waivers. Then they wouldnt have to give up anyhting.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 9, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Is Joey McDonald Red Wings property?
Send Nab-a-cough to the Red Wings for Joey McDonald, at least JMcD has NHL experience and was used to getting bombarded here on LI.
by Russel Ginart on Feb 9, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
I like that idea
But technically we can’t trade Nabokov directly. He has to pass through waivers in order to end up in Detroit. Not sure if they’re up for giving us McDonald for potentially nothing if another team claims Nabokov first.
I never wanted Nabokov in the first place, he is a good goalie but he wrote that perverted book about the old man and the young girl. Terrible image IMO for the Isles
But then Sting sang about it and made it all better.
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I thought
That was Joey Buttafuoco?
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
by Keith Quinn on Feb 10, 2011 8:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
MetalChick
I sent an email to your aol account. Let me know what you think?
by Russel Ginart on Feb 9, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
The REAAALLLY interesting question is....
What in the ever loving hell are they going to do in Bridgeport?
Roloson
Dipietro
Lawson
Nabokov (oh, wait)
Poulin
Koskinen (shhhhhhh……..)
Martin (Oh, Dear God…..)
[Hellooooooooo down there…………]
NTIPC
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 9, 2011 2:01 PM EST reply actions
And the first fan
to do a “projection” on Koskinen will die the painful death of a thousand Christina Aguilera National Anthems.
NTIPC
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 9, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
I almost died with the first one...
God, I hate it when people try to make OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM their own… only person to even have a little success was Whitney… but at least get the words right… it’s not some POS lyric some drunken idiot scribbled on you iPad with his jimmy.
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I bet they're hoping Lawson is ready by Friday
So they could send Martin down. Either way, they need more bodies now.
Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.
who is Bridgeports goalie now?
we have stripped them of goalies and D all season, as mentioned by Butch
where does Bridgeport get their players from to replace these guys?
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by Rickfansince76 on Feb 9, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Meanwhile, in Bridgeport...
Michael Fornabaio, in a post awesomely titled “Who’s Left?”:
Up here, Leni DiCostanzo practiced opposite Riley Gill in the morning. Despite all politicking attempts to get him a start, the organization is looking outside. Katie Strang and TSN’s Darren Dreger report that Garth Snow would make a minor deal for a goalie. If that doesn’t happen, Bingham and others in the organization are checking for other options.
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This reminds me of EHM '07
If a goalie got hurt and you hadn’t called anyone up, the team would invent a scrub and stick him on the bench. We’re down to imaginary guys and beer vendors.
If anyone needs me, I'll be in the Angry Dome.
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back in the day, when like doug weight was young, teams carried one goaltender and the equipment manager WAS the backup.
for the obligatory snow joke he wouldn;t be the first non-roster player to suit up either, if i recall lester patrick came out from the stands to play a game, but you can confirm by using a wiki on Rags lore.
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He came out from behind the bench, IIRC
I’m almost certain that in the 20’s or 30’s there was an emergency goalie who played a playoff game – and won – after team officials found him in a bar complaining that he could play better than the guy who’d been injured that night. I have it in a book that’s packed away somewhere, and I can’t find it online, but if you give me some time I might be able to find the guy’s name.
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What’s funny is I think just 3-4 years ago the Caps ran into a situation just like this and they had a sales guy who was 2-3 years out of college where he played goalie. They had him suit up for a practice, and maybe even a game. Not sure about that. I know he didn’t play, but he might have actually sat on the bench.
Vancouver had to call a local college goaltender as well.
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Brett Leonhardt
Leonhardt was the guy in question, a web developer for the Capitals who played D3 hockey at Oswego and later Neumann.
after last nights game, might as well play Martin
I mean why not see what he can do, put Mikko back in Thursday and Martin Friday. whoever is better stays if Lawson comes back
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by Rickfansince76 on Feb 9, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
I think because Martin isn't in any way part of the future
I’m partial to giving Mikko a full-on look where he actually knows he’s starting.
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Joel Martin
is now in TEH CORE.
by default
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Poulin out for season
kneecap dislocation requiring surgery per Strang
The only good thing about that is
it wasn’t an MCL/ACL tear.
(At lkeast, I THINK that’s good. For all I know this is a career ender.)
NTIPC
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 9, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
*sigh*
Subluxation of the patella.
Aging myself on this one……..back when I was 17, I had that exact thing happen, only I also tore all the ligaments in my knee as well.
BUT that was also just as that new fangled arthroscopic surgery came out, so my Dr opted NOT to do it on me feeling I was young enough where I would recover and be 100%……that NEVER happened.
I can only hope and pray(not just because I am an Islander fan, but this is a young mans livelihood) that he has a full and complete recovery and does NOT try to rush it.
I had 2 knee surgeries in the past year(1 each knee) and you just can not push it when it comes to a joint such as the knee.
Native LI'er living in the land of Black & Gold.
Interesting
Yeah, I was just saying I know a few guys who’ve had dislocated knees (no torn ligaments with them though). Did rehab, no surgery, were generally fine but the knee would pop out every now and then.
(Non-elite athlete, non-top-class medical care caveats apply…)
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so, what you're saying is.....
this ISN’T better than an ACL tear?
:pray:
NTIPC
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 9, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
truthfully.....
they very well might find a tear once they get in there.
But a BIG problem that will happen is later (like myself and the guys Dom know’s) is when that kneecap does give again, you have a higher chance of tears.
I competed in Karate for quite a few years and I know first hand that you aren’t thinking about the knee, you are fighting or doing a form and into it, you pivot and BAM. Hence my having surgery on each of my knees to repair as much as they could with the ligaments and remove all the bad cartilidge. For me, my next surgery won’t be able to happen until I am 50(10 years) and at that point it will be knee replacement. There is nothing more they can do for me unless some huge breakthrough happens in medicine.
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Keep the horrible news coming
Just keep it coming…
Go find yourself an open door.
by The Black Map on Feb 9, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
SORRY!!!!!!!
Trust me….I TRULY pray he never has to deal with a knee issue again….not just because I am an Isles fan, but because he is young and has a promising career ahead of him.
I might wish it on a Rag…..nah, not even that.
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I'm starting to believe in the Indian Burial Ground theory
Or…Al Arbour took every drop of remaining magic with him.
Maybe we had TOO MUCH magic in the early 80’s and the universe is evening things up a bit.
Go find yourself an open door.
by The Black Map on Feb 9, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
i remember when i was in the navy
our captain lost his cap
he made me hop in a dingy and paddle in circles for days…
NYI Hockey! We'll get that winless month yet!
by bob l on Feb 9, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I hope
at least they taped your favorite shows.
by SchneiderDiricov on Feb 9, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
I'm so ill right now...
I need a vacation.
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Sorry Dom I beat you to it!
Friday Im off to FLA to attend a wedding, will miss a few games I guess. Sorry but all seats are sold on the flight, you will just have to stay here and do what you do best!!!
by Russel Ginart on Feb 9, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Me too, actually
Will be skiing this weekend.
Won’t be wearing any NYI gear though, out of the interest of preserving all my body parts.
Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.
Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.
I did not notice this until now, excellent!
by Russel Ginart on Feb 9, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
This is a blessing in disguise
Don’t leave us now when we need you most. Now that the hockey gods took Poulin out in a split second, what do we do now? This might seem a little dramatic (and insensitive).
“The hockey gods will not let up until Charles Wang is overthrown from his rule of the franchise a la Mubarak in Egypt. I say we storm the Coliseum on camels until he steps down.”
Hey...
I know that dude… he hangs out at the church I used to go to. I hear he’s a cross dresser.
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by JPinVA on Feb 9, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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3) There is actually a way to make photos smaller, by typing in height=150 …
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Fun with pictures...part duex
2) I forget what #2 was.
2) When posting a picture make sure that it is of this this person… or a reasonable Fack Smiley:

Man does not live on Dipietro bashing alone.
Interesting sidenote… I typed in height=150, and got the image to shrink to its current size when I hit preview. Just for shits and giggles I typed in “phone_number=my number”… and hit preview. the phone rang, my wife answered and all I heard was, “NO, HE’S NOT HERE… AND DON’T CALL HERE ANYMORE”…
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You and I are in some kind of tear in the space-time continuum. For some reason when you post pictures, it takes forever to load for me or I don’t see them at all (such as now). Weird. But consistent with the email time-delay thing.
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Possible options...
Leighton?
Smith? Even though we passed on him already
Huet? Im sure Chicago wouldn’t mind and maybe he’d actually appreciate another shot in the NHL unlike some Russian HeWhoMustNotBeNamed
Leighton and Smith
are possibilities, but they have injury issues of their own… although I guess we’ll take what we can get.
I think Huet still comes with a huge contract even though he’s on loan to a Swiss team, so he’s probably a long shot. But who knows…
Kevin Poulin
This is the worst news we’ve had as Islander fans for years. According to a website on orthopedics, “Almost always, both the anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) and posterior cruciate ligament (PCL) are torn. In addition, the collateral ligaments, cartilage and meniscus can also be damaged.” This could be a career ruining injury but let’s hope not. Poulin is the most important player on the team for the future, only because it doesn’t look like they have any other goalies that are going to be top notch.
the first few weeks of this season
We had the excitement and hope for a great season. it looked like the prospects were panning out and everything was coming together despite the injuries. It turns out we were not the Green Bay Packers, but this is just ridiculous.
I think if I was Mikko I would be scared to put on the pads.
In all the years ...
I’m watching sports I don’t recall a diagnosis of ‘dislocated knee.’
I’ve seen dislocated kneeCAPS, and dislocations of other joints such as the shoulder, hip and thumb. But not ‘dislocated knee.’
How sure are we that this is the diagnosis.
Sorry, my bad (my bad?)
I wasn’t precise in the original update. (I’ve never heard of a dislocated knee without the CAP either, and it honestly never occurred to me that CAP wouldn’t be implied.) To be clear, I’ve seen no official report that didn’t say kneeCAP.
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I feel sorry for Capuano too
this guy just can’t get a break. It is a lot for the best coach in the world to win through. How can he be judged on teh job he has done at the end of the season.
I bet the Islanders lose a lot more games now, and he gets replaced even though much of it will not be his fault
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He's running on the same fumes...
..that gordon did in year one…. maybe better. I still say he’s done a pretty good job getting htings straight, and keeping the young and the healthless competitive night after night. I’d give him a year or two extension after the season regardless of what happens in the final third.
Wouldn’t it be funny if he actually had a winning record from here.
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It seems like if surgery is required ...
something must be torn, no?
Any orthopedists out there?
Very possible.....
a couple of posts above discussing it.
Native LI'er living in the land of Black & Gold.
well,
i had 4 months of PT 3x’s a week because the outer muscles were beating out the inner muscles on my right knee, every time i flexed, they triggered milliseconds faster, causing my cap to shift on me time and again… and oh yeah, it felt like someone put a knife through my knee, first time it happened i hit the ground without warning… and mine was just 1/4 – 1/3 inch shifting… his cap fully dislocated, so i’m sure they’re going to go in and scope everything out make sure nothing else is messed up…
NYI Hockey! We'll get that winless month yet!
If you Google (tm) "subluxation of the patella"
it wil tell you quite a bit. It amounts to the kneecap popping out of hte groove in the knee joint that guides it whe bending. It can become chronic and reccurring, because of the loosening o fhte ligments with the first injury and what I would guess is the unnatural stress placed on the joint by the Butterlfly movement of the modern goalie. If that is the diagnosis, it appears that they are being very aggressive in their treatment and going in to tighten up the ligaments which hold the kneecap in place, to prevent this from becoming a regular and chronic injury.
NTIPC
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 9, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Options
1) Mike Smith – Strang says we’re not interested
2) Mike Leighton – Possibly
3) Jonah Gustavsson – Left last night’s game with an accelerated heartbeat
4) Evgeni Nabokov – Fucking douchebag
by Fabtraption on Feb 9, 2011 2:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Don't know what to say.
For the select few of us who call Citi Field our summer home and the Coliseum as our winter one, it’s going to be a long spring and summer.
It was great to see everyone in Islander nation out here posting last night and this morning, though. Our fanbase is alive and kicking. (Just don’t kick too hard or we might injure ourselves).
With no other choice, I will list the positives of this year:
Grabner Rocks
Moulson Re-signed
JT has skills
Hamonic’s for Real
We gave Roli chance to play for the cup (he deserves it)
MacD continues to impress
El Nino looked promising
Nielsen still kicks a**
We don’t root for the Rangers
Keep hopes alive guys……not just any normal person can root for the Islanders, you need a big heart and a lot of patience. We all love the blue and orange, no matter what. Lets go, Islanders! (just watch out for holes in the ice….and teammates shoulders….and flying pucks….and a**holes trying to put you out for the season with illegal checks…and….and…)
And now, back to crying at my keyboard :(
Thank you Matt Moulson!
by CharlieIsles on Feb 9, 2011 2:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
{group hug}
Seriously, I wouldn’t keep sanity through this without the comedy and fun and insights so many of you people bring here.
…I might have a more functional life though.
Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.
I am staying away from Citi Field this summer
Go find yourself an open door.
by The Black Map on Feb 9, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
I'd agree with you
Except as JW said, we are gluttons for punishment. I’d rather watch a good baseball game or a good hockey game, win or lose, then watch American Idol or Glee or whatever people watch these days.
And speaking of the Islanders / TV, the Walking Dead is a great new show….I say we get some sort of sponsorship going. I hear in season 2, RDP makes a guest appearance…
Thank you Matt Moulson!
It doesn't hurt being an Islander fan....but it sure hurts playing for them...get well soon, um, everybody....
My only ray of sunshine come baseball season
is that I live in the Pittsburgh area and the locals can not make fun of my team choices then
Native LI'er living in the land of Black & Gold.
It really is....
There isn’t a bad seat in the house, clean, lots of food choices too. AND the casino is walking distance(which my hubby is never completely thrilled with, but oh well!)
It’s just too bad they are constantly rebuilding too. LOL
Native LI'er living in the land of Black & Gold.
do we now hate KP for getting injured?
i suggest no more goalies with P as a last name for starters… or knees for that matter
by Khan Noonien Singh on Feb 9, 2011 2:52 PM EST reply actions
I shall leave you
as you left me, as you left her: marooned for all eternity with injured goalies, buried alive. Buried alive.
by SchneiderDiricov on Feb 9, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
this is taking on a ...
nightmare scenario kind of air.
worldwide thermonuclear war, earth-bound gamma ray burst, and this.
Is Brent Johnson availlable?
Cause that might seriously mprove the teams toughness as well :)
by Styxcanada on Feb 9, 2011 2:56 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
OUR NEW GOALIE - Injury Proof

NYI Hockey! We'll get that winless month yet!
by bob l on Feb 9, 2011 2:59 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
can’t be worse than Hextall was in ’94
by SchneiderDiricov on Feb 9, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ladies and gentlemen...
the only thing Rick Dipietro can be useful at…
A PAPERWEIGHT!!!
Lighthouse Hockey: where "you better check yourself before you rec yourself" -bobl
If your life isn't pathetic enough already, follow me on twitter @JPinVA
I just checked out his stats
SIGN HIM UP ASAP!!!!!!
Sheffield Steelers: 2.39 GAA, .926 SV%, 38 WINS, 10 LOSES!
by Russel Ginart on Feb 9, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
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Go find yourself an open door.
by The Black Map on Feb 9, 2011 3:11 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Poulin tweeteth......
“out for the rest of the season. Will come back stronger”
:(
Native LI'er living in the land of Black & Gold.
Trade
As much as I hate to say it, this probably should be the end of the line for Radar Radek.
He probably has enough value as a bottom pair dman for a playoff team to ship us a serviceable third string keeper. Would have liked to have seen him retire an Isle (and I guess he still could), but he makes the most sense under the circumstances. Rather not move anyone who might possibly fit into the future for what amounts to a warm body.
not a bad idea
I think you are right. He could be a big asset for a playoff team and he is probably the best islander that is not vital to our future.
This shit is contagious and is spreading
I just root for the Islanders and I found out yesterday that my DOG needs knee surgery for a torn ligament. Leave my dog out of this you vengeful bastard hockey gods! I accept the multiple problems and surgery on my own knees, I had 19 straight series victories to enjoy, but now even the DOG. This is getting to be beyond surreal, I couldn’t even make this up if I were trying.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
That's crazy
At this point I’m afraid to step outside.
Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.
It is crazy because I didn't even make the correlation until today.
I expect a shepherd to have Islander hip if anything, but no its gotta be the knee.
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The DOG?
Don’t tell me you had the dog wearing Islanders gear?
by Russel Ginart on Feb 9, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
No, but I may not allow my kids to where their sweaters
The dogs do have hockey jerseys, but those were gifts to the kids for teams they are not allowed to root for.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
This is ridiculous
I know that a rut in the ice isn’t the trainer’s fault, and neither is DP’s lack of fighting skills/intelligence, but some of the injuries this year have to be put on the staff. 336 man-games lost? That’s just insane.
336 man-games lost? That’s just insane.
I believe it is 346 as of last game, actually.
But Im sorry, blaming the staff for WHAT, exactly? What has happened that can be imagined to be the staff’s “fault”?
Sometimes the blame game doesnt work. Sometimes there is no quick guilty party to turn and point at. Sometimes there is no simple answer. Sometimes shit just happens. And the fact that so many people REFUSE TO ACCEPT THIS and instead keep thinking that there is some simple “aha!” or “eureka” answer to all of this just demonstrates how strong and deeply ingrained the desire to blame is within humanity itself.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 9, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
+39 Eaton, +39 Mottau, + 39 Hunter, +39 Poulin that number is going to grow fast
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fruedian?
I think that 39 can be replaced by 29 in this scenario.
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If your life isn't pathetic enough already, follow me on twitter @JPinVA
They really shouldn't put numbers sequentially on the keyboard it only messes up my typing.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
I do wish it could fall on the staff, though. At least then we could do something to fix this problem and the injuries wouldn’t doom us before Opening Night. But you’re right, shit does just happen.
Does anyone know the record for man-games lost and how far away (or how far past) we are from it?
by sayvillelax94 on Feb 9, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
I don’t think any of the injuries where because of lack of conditioning or anything like that. I think we were all prepared for the possibility of DP getting injured again this season, it was more of a when than if. Hunter unfortuently has been pretty prone to injury over the last couple of years and I think that is the result of the type of game he had played, he was a fairly physical player and some players are just more injury prone than others, and that usually doesn’t change when they move to different teams, suggesting it is not a coaching problem. (remember Wendal Clark?) And with Poulin; goalies always run the risk of knee injuries. Again, not something that falls on the coaches. I think Eaton and Mottau was a result of plain old bad luck
Answered in another thread
oh the record is 629 man-games by the LA Kings in 2002-2003
by 54_Fighting on Feb 9, 2011 7:47 AM PST
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
However TMC
As much as no one here knows that the staff has caused or not prevented injury, you have no idea if they didn’t right? I mean really, I’m usually in agreement with you, but the bottom line is no one can say definitively either way. In training, it is possible to overtrain certain parts of the body that put undue stress on joints. On the flip side, lack of stretching and warm up can do the same thing. We still weren’t told exactly what happened to KO, the recent Hunter thing was pretty weird, and of course you can’t prevent the actual accident, but if the body is developed in certain ways, maybe the fallout from an accident isn’t as bad. Still doesn’t matter, because we can’t PROVE anything either way, but the man games lost is a bit damning. It just may be possible that in our quest to begin bulking up, we are getting people hurt either by altering their bodies, speed, or willingness to give or take contact.
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
I actually found some isles report that said ko’s injury occurred in a practice. Forgot where I found the article though, but a torn shoulder from a team practice sounds suspicous. Especially considering he had minnessota batting practice the same weak this shoulder tear was diagnosed.
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by OzzyFan on Feb 9, 2011 8:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’d read it was during a scrimmage, and he skated the next day hoping it was just sore.
Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.
Yeah, that was probably the same one I read. Very suspicous.
Proud Islanders fan, the organization that iced the greatest team to ever play the game and won 4 straight cups. Best overall player in the nhl right now=Pavel Datsyuk.
As much as no one here knows that the staff has caused or not prevented injury, you have no idea if they didn’t right?
And you have no idea if your great grandparents were abducted by space wolves when they were both 5. No one can say definitively either way, right?
But- it would be a pretty dumb thing to believe without poining to some kind of evidence, wouldnt it?
For this season this organization has had guys hurt in scrimmage games, in NHL games at home, in NHL games away, in practice at the NVMC, in practice at iceworks, in AHL games at home, in AHL games away, you name it. And they all didnt HAVE the same trainers during the offseason, in the AHL, the NHL, etc. Many of them were not even in the same countries.
They didnt all train together and in the same manner, Kevin. Thats one of the reasons why this is NOT explained away by “the training staff”. Another reason is that the training staff has changed over recent years, but the Isles are having another injury-plagued season. Yet another reason is that you have SEEN what has caused many of these injuries. WTF could a training staff do to help Comeau? Hunter? Rick? Streit? Everyone else?
No matter how much people WANT there to be this simple correlation, something to point to and say, “Thats it, thats the reason. Fix that, and everything will be better” it JUST DOESNT WORK LIKE THAT. Thats my point.
But I cant stop you if your need for something to point to is so strong that you keep doing it, anyway. We would all like the answer to be so unbelievably simple.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 10, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
Hello, My name is KEITH it's nice to meet you.
No one can say definitively either way, right?
Right, that’s what I said.
But- it would be a pretty dumb thing to believe without poining to some kind of evidence, wouldnt it?
I think the injury list itself endsu up being a big piece of circumstantial evidence, although not condemning or compelling. My line of reasoning on the idea that the injuries have occured in various ways may speak to the idea that overall strength or flexibility may not be worked on enough. Of course you can’t do anything about concussions, those are direct contact injuries. But it may be possible to decrease Islander hip/groin/knee by making sure there isn’t undue stress on that joint by packing too much muscle on, stressing the joint, not doing effective warm-up or stretching or working on these problem areas by providing “in-context” training so that it duplicates actual game motions.
My biggest point is that making the statement that it is definitely NOT the training staff is the same argument as saying it IS the training staff. Both not provable, but both have some circumstantial evidence behind them.
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
by Keith Quinn on Feb 10, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
making the statement that it is definitely NOT the training staff
To be clear, I said that absolutely nothing points to it BEING the staff. Nothing. when you actually LOOK at what has happened, it doesnt add up. At all. But if you want to hold on to it for some reason, go ahead. It just does NOT add up logically.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 10, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
And sorry I called you Kevin lol
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 10, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
One more thing:
But it may be possible to decrease Islander hip/groin/knee by making sure there isn’t undue stress on that joint by packing too much muscle on, stressing the joint, not doing effective warm-up or stretching or working on these problem areas by providing "in-context" training so that it duplicates actual game motions.
Instead of just SAYING this, ressearch it. Look for a real correlation. I am confident you will not find any, but hey- if you think this idea has merit, show me something to back it up. Show me how all these men in different leagues in differerent countries at different ages playing different positons with different trainers are all allegedly victimes of what you suggest. Otherwise, theres nothing to it- and why bother bringing up things that have no factual basis?
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 10, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
I think we both know that there is a ton of research out there
that describes approriate training and preparation as the key for preventing injury. But I think we can also both admit that we will never see any of the actual training regimen that any particular team goes through,the players personal weight totals (how much they can lift) their level of flexibility, or anything like that. And not for nothing, players often conduct their pwn regimen in off-season and that can be a problem too> I’m sure you remember the NY Giants losing their minds about Shockey and Burress working out on their own. And maybe it is wrong to blame the staff (even though I don’t feel that is what I’m doing…just questioning what they are actually doing…I’m sure you’ve worked with plenty of people who have credentials and still suck right?), it may be whatever the individual players are brining to the table.
I’d really like to get ahold of the Isles presedent of genetic research, because that guy sucks!
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
The killer for me
Is there’s really no way to apply research to the Islanders and come up with a conclusion, is there? A typical scientific study is going to have more participants and a longer term than what this squad over the past few years can give you, even excluding all the other variables of where they came from and what their methods and conditions pre-Islanders were.
I agree it’s a question worth asking, I’m just frustrated (or lazy) because the answer is so elusive. This actually reminds me of something Sheldon Souray was saying/complaining about the Oilers last year, and an interview or two with a guy who used to do conditioning for them. That might be worth looking up.
Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.
I’m just frustrated (or lazy) because the answer is so elusive
This is the hard part of it. What I meant above with the research was “generalized” exercise science research, not Islander research because you are never even given enough variables to formulate a hypothesis. And a between subjects design (one team vs another) is certainly not as good as a within subjects design (Isles with one staff, then another staf) in any experiment or research. I mean, I read a study a while ago that said a sensory deprivation tank can help social skills in kids with aspergers and help attention. Coinciding with said “tank”, the family had also introduced Concerta (like ritalin) and enrolled the child in a social skills group. The fact that it was even published at all makes me want to smack someone…because people will believe it!
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
by Keith Quinn on Feb 10, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fanshot
You guys see the Fanshot with nhl.com running Phanoaf’s hit as a highlight? Guess we really better not hold our breath for a suspension.
Completely absurd.
not going to happen on a night Cooke is in the news
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
You guys ever read some coach quotes on cooke’s hits? They tell you what everyone in the league thinks of him. Boudreau was asked about the knee to knee hit on ovi by cooke and said “It’s matt cooke, enough said”. I bet the whole league is fed up with that prick. And I can’t believe that bylsma was defending his 4gm tyutin suspension hit, frigging rediculous.
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by OzzyFan on Feb 9, 2011 8:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
On Facebook....
On “Official New York Islanders” page posted TSN reported that the Isles came to terms with Danny Lorenz.
I can not find anything regarding this on TSN and have asked the guy where he saw this. We’ll see.
http://www.facebook.com/NEWYORKISLANDERS/posts/10150394485425263
Native LI'er living in the land of Black & Gold.
There's a blast from the past
And a jest, surely. (Not meaning to call you Shirley.)
Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.
this is starting to sound like a part of airplane
Snow: “Can you take pucks hitting you at 100 MPH, opposing goalies punching you in the face, risk Islander knee and/or hip and prevent the other team from scoring?”
Insert Name of potential goaltender: Surely you can’t be serious?
Snow: “I am serious…and don’t call me Shirley”
Native LI'er living in the land of Black & Gold.
there is hope for KP
been a corpsman/medic all my adult life,5 long years in the Navy and have seen 3 marines sustain the same injury. 2 from training accidents and one from just plain stupidity, none were discharged due to their injury that I knew about, however, the only one i did see post injury was fully recovered in 14 months(this is back in 1995, dont know recovery time now, just know how long it took him to recover). it will take a long time for the strength to return to his MPFL with succesful surgery.( the military has been doing surgeries like this for years before it is adapted for civilians). A brace will most likely have to be worn for the rest of his playing days to keep his precious patella from pulling away again.
Howie said it best last night… this is absolutely SUREAL. some asshole rags fan dying wish must have been to curse us, or some some blockheaded voodoo practitioner must have done some stupid dance and cursed us. either way, this is like a fan’s worst nightmare.
Sometimes your the dog, sometimes your the hydrant
Thanks for that
I feel a little bit less like the hydrant now.
Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.
Thanks for the info...
but… as a fan… let’s keep in perspective the young men and their families… in BOTH situations you mention… yours as well. Thanks… on all fronts!
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ANOTHER ADDITION TO THE INJURY LIST...
Jesse just read this post on his iPhone… and now his feelings are hurt… 10 free clicks for the first reader who can tell me why!
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because nobody considered maybe he wants to play goalie??
Native LI'er living in the land of Black & Gold.
20 clicks for you...
I didn’t even think of that one… he is about the right size to be a Garth Snow crease clogger.
Lighthouse Hockey: where "you better check yourself before you rec yourself" -bobl
If your life isn't pathetic enough already, follow me on twitter @JPinVA
All the times I've spelled that damn name right...
…I’ve gotta get it wrong in a headline. Thanks for the heads-up.
Lighthouse Hockey: Send us your cold, your poor, your healthy goalies.
Anyone see that Cooke got a four game susp?
by Torch7 on Feb 9, 2011 6:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
He should last about a 1/2 a dozen games before he gets hurt.
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by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on Feb 9, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions

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