Doug Weight sticking around?...Let Next Year's Head Coach have a say.
by FB4Real on Feb 8, 2011 10:37 AM EST
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I'm sure most of you have probably read the news recently that Chris Botta posted on his blog regarding Doug Weight's probable/possible return with the Islanders next season in a coaching or management role.
Let me preface the rest of this post by saying that I think Doug Weight has been fantastic representative for the Islanders and the Islanders would be benefitted greatly by having him around to assist in the rebuild even after his playing days are over.
Here's what concerns me though about keeping Doug Weight around:
Chris Botta mentions in the article that Weight would likely have one of two roles:
Weight’s new role would likely be on the coaching staff of the NHL club as an assistant, or working with Garth Snow as an assistant general manager or director of hockey operations.
In addition, Chris says:
Of course, you don’t need a source to observe his increased role as a voice for the Islanders with each of his three seasons. Weight has arguably been the best spokesman the franchise has had since the days of William A. Torrey. Weight has vigorously expressed optimism over the last two seasons that the Islanders were a playoff team. In a few recent interviews – including this one with Brian Compton of NHL.com – he has voluntarily defended the commitment of Wang to the franchise, its players and its fans.
The quote immediately above is why I think that Dougie Weight would better serve us in an Asst. General Manager role as opposed to being an Asst. Coach.
I remember in Joe Torre's last few seasons as Yankees Manager he had issues with Yankees Management and Brian Cashman when they started dictating things to him regarding coaching positions and the such. I think there was a pitching coach and/or a hitting coach that was more or less forced on him late in his tenure with the Yankees.
I mention this because I think I am just a little bit worried about Islanders Management (Charles and Garth) placing Doug Weight in an assistant coaching role without allowing the Head Coach (whoever that might be) to choose his own coaching staff.
Behind the scenes this Islander Season, I'm sure that Doug Weight has spent many a game nights sitting in the press box watching games with both Garth and Charles and no doubt discussing the going ons during the games both on the ice and on the "off days".
I guess what I am trying to get at is that I am concerned that Doug Weight as an assistant coach might be difficult for the eventual Head Coach (if he is not chosen by him specifically)....I don't know if coaching "staffs" in Hockey are as carefully chosen by Head Coaches as they might be in other sports (say Football, or Baseball). But if they are....then placing Doug Weight in a coaching role with the team before a Head Coach is finalized and given his proper right to choose his own staff is a bad idea.
The minute that Doug Weight is placed in a coaching role before a head coach is chosen he would immediately become a "Charles and Garth hire" and therefore would not really report to whoever the Head Coach is.
The Head Coach need to be the HEAD Coach.....
Thoughts?
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I am a believer that a coach should get his feet wet at a lower level before on the big team. I would like to see him as an assit. coach with Bridgeport
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
He certainly could be a coach. I wonder if this thought is crossing wang/snow's minds. Wonder if it has crossed Weight's mind yet.
Proud Islanders fan, the organization that iced the greatest team to ever play the game and won 4 straight cups. Best overall player in the nhl right now=Pavel Datsyuk.
How about we get a coach who has coaching experience first?
I’m with Rick that a guy should get his feet wet coaching lower levels before coaching on the big team.
Could this be a sign of *no-longer-interim* Coach Capuano?
Capt. Jack seemed receptive to Weight’s coaching assistance during the season.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
Most likely the Isles bring in someone without NHL experience who wouldn’t be able to dictate who he wants on his coaching staff.
"When you’re dressing Dustin Freisen on your blueline, there’s no hope." ~ David
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if that is the case stick with Capuano
I mean if you don’t give Cap the job, bring in someone with a resume instead. If you are goingto bring in someone with no experience stay with Cap. He is doing decent all things considered.
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Feb 9, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
I could be wrong (again), but
I’m not too worried. I agree with your concerns in principle — I just don’t expect Weight to be an on-ice coach and even if that happens, I REALLY don’t expect him to be named to the staff in a way that forces a new coach (or even Capuano) to inherit him.
Snow knows how it goes when you’re forced to inherit people (and in fact he had to do that to Gordon with his late hiring, leading to Gallant moving on awkwardly). Don’t expect to see that again.
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I'm probably over-analyzing this a bit
In sports…it is vcery important that a coach have the room when it comes to do dealing with players and making decsions. If Doug Weight becomes like a communication tool for Wang and Snow that could lead to problems.
FB4Real
"Past performance Is Not A Guarantee For Future Results"
You have me convinced
I have said this many times, “Doug Weight is one of the most positive minded players to have graced an Isles uniform”…His pure, affable, attitude, and rep, around the league, could serve Garth and the Isles a long way in bringing FA’s to the Island…
I really do hope Weight stays and works for this organization.
Cant help it, I just love the guy.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
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Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
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Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 10, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
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