Rick DiPietro out 4-6 weeks with facial fracture, knee swelling
by Dominik on Feb 4, 2011 1:00 PM EST
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PrintThe New York Islanders announced today that goaltender Rick DiPietro is expected to miss the next four to six weeks with both facial fractures and knee swelling.
UPDATE: Audio interview is here. UPDATE TWO: The Islanders have signed Joel Martin -- who's been playing well enough on his PTO in Bridgeport -- to a two-way contract and loaned him to Bridgeport.
I have no words anymore, only boldface emphasis. Seems like we already went through the implications the other night (for what, Chapter 73 of the Chronicles of DiPietro?), but commence with your usual, I guess. What else can you do?
(Besides tell Nabokov "I told you so," I mean.)
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big time LOL
I’d go so far as to say ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!
I mean how does the knee swell from getting hit in the face? Is it just perpetually swollen at this point?
At least every swollen knee brings us one step closer to getting out of that contract.
"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington
x-rays negative, my big patooty.
Good so, 4-6 weeks, that’s with about 2-3 weeks left in the season, they don’t rush him back, Poulin holds himself well, they “extend” his IR stay til the end of the year and shut him down, bring him back next year. Knee swelling…pfft, whatever. Something behind closed doors we don’t know about. You can’t have knee swelling this much and still play thru with a long contract left.
What the fish, stick?
You can’t have knee swelling this much and still play thru with a long contract left.
Ding ding!
Actually, are you saying you doubt the knee swelling part? Because I’d bet that is a major, very real issue. How many times has it swelled since surgery? How many extra rest days has he had? I’ve asked a lot and heard others share here that such repeat reaction is a likely sign something within the knee did not and will not react to surgery or regular post-surgery activity like NHL hockey. well. Not that we’ve seen his files…
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Although this looks cheesy, from Staple:
More DiPietro, on his knee swelling: “You don’t really ever want a broken face to be the reason you get extra rest.”
So what, throw in knee swelling for good measure? Or choose now to acknowledge it further? Never mind, I’m going to stop before I read too much into a short Tweet that could have 100 different contexts.
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I was going to suggest that.
I’m guessing his knee will always be a little swolen. Not enough to keep him out, but since he’s going to be out anyways, why not mention it?
I’m guessing it’s not actually swelling, per se. We all gain weight in odd little places when we don’t have enough exercise. The guy can’t exercise consistently for 6 months without having to sit his butt down for a while.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Feb 4, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, nevermind that
The actual interview is a little clearer on the context of that remark.
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4-6 weeks
With broken spirit and fracured pride?
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
God damn it!
that is my exact reaction to the DP news. Anything else I have to say is not proper for print.
so move on, Poulin is our #1 right now. see how it works. I think playing with the same goalie everyday is a good thing for the team as a whole. they can get a system down and play it. I think he is every bit as good as DP at that age, and if he proves to be healthy give him the #1 next season and keep DP as a backup for 10 years
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Feb 5, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
RDP
the howard stern of hockey… (yes it’s a contract joke, but hey, it’s a new kinda contract joke)
NYI Hockey! We'll get that winless month yet!
he works like 2-3 days a week
is overpaid grossly, etc… etc…
NYI Hockey! We'll get that winless month yet!
Overpaid?
The man single handidly made Sirius into one of the top subscription based companies in the us. Nice try tho. Stick to hockey
by eye on the island on Feb 4, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Sirius is still losing money big time and he hasn't offered good return on investment.
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Sirius had what, 500K Subscribers when he came around? XM had about a million.
The problem isn’t Stern’s contract, it’s the big name celebrities that both sides have signed that bring in NO subscribers, Jamie Foxx, Oprah, Eminem, etc… they almost never show up to do anything with their channels, and rarely mention satellite radio in general.
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I think the problem is satellite radio as a business model isn’t viable as it is right now. I have a friend that is the lead engineer on the XM or Sirius fleet and they are now out in Jersey when they used to be in the heart of the city. They just keep looking for ways to be profitable, not even sure if Congress let them merge and if that would help.
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the iPod killed satellite radio
Why spend the money on the hardware and add in for monthly fees when you can just buy the device, and have the music forever for a one-time cost? And if you really want to hear stuff you haven’t bought, you can just listen to the ordinary radio, which charges you nothing.
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If ur a HS fan then Sirius is worth it
by KO21 on Feb 4, 2011 5:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If ur a HS fan then Sirius is worth it
by KO21 on Feb 4, 2011 5:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
amen
I love Stern on Sirius. I listen to hi since 88 and the quality of teh show is so much better now.
I had to cut some expenses last year and one was Sirius. I was so happy he resigned because this year I was able to sign back up, finacially are beter.
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Feb 5, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
OPRAH gets millions while BUBBA the LOVE SPONGE gets nothing?
That’s the problem w Sirius…Bubba has The Bubba Army which is SUBSCRIBERS and Oprah brings NOTHING to the table….Howard got what he EARNED…
by KO21 on Feb 4, 2011 5:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It has nothing to do with being a fan or not. If the Islanders sign Crosby for $80 million a year and he draws capacity crowds at the Coliseum, they still aren’t making money.
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The Islanders are gonna sign Crosby?!?!
It's true. I read it on a board somewhere.
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confirmed
But who’s Stanley Crosby?
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This guy?
Lighthouse Hockey: "I’m starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy is holding our goaltender." -Hockey1919
No
I believe he is the walrus
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by David Hanssen on Feb 4, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
This guy then?
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nah - suspended four games by Colie Campbell
He was swinging on a Star.
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by mikb on Feb 4, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
nice screen shot from Easy Rider
I don’t remember Dennis Hopper being that bald, tho…
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Post-production touch-ups
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LOL
they can do anything with CGI!
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Although CGI is responsible for one of the worst atrocities of the 20th century, one Jar Jar Binks.
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by David Hanssen on Feb 4, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Stills and Nash holding out
They want the same as Crosby and unlimited concert dates at the Coliseum.
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but he worked 5 days a week to get to this point
he paid his dues. most of us work harder early in our career and when we finally start making decent coin we aren’t working as hard.
it called paying your dues
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
by Rickfansince76 on Feb 5, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
So what came first
The Facial Fracture or the Knee Swelling…
It reminds me of the whole Mattou situation, he goes down to the facial injury, and then he has hip problems.
So has Nabokov been getting ready? It’s been like 2 weeks now, he should be ready to go.
"When you’re dressing Dustin Freisen on your blueline, there’s no hope." ~ David
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has to be
He’s the only one under contract. Joel Martin is on a PTO with Bridgeport
"When you’re dressing Dustin Freisen on your blueline, there’s no hope." ~ David
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
cue circus music
were really screwed now, because its either we call Koskinen up (an screw over BPT) or get nabokov to stop being a whiny brat and play
Considering Joel Martin has been outplaying Koskinen, we can only help BP by calling him up.
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IS koskinen really playing that bad?
or is it just the deleted bridgeport defense? because Poulin still put up great numbers down there but Koskinen is shitting the bed, and if hes getting outplayed by a guy from the ECHL, this doesnt bode well for him
Dude's giving up like 5 goals a game
every time I check the AHL box score its another 5-spot, it seems. Another home run for the scouting staff…
http://theahl.com/stats/gamebygame.php?id=3309
That’s his game by game stats.
For October he had a .917 SV%, its been all downhill since.
"When you’re dressing Dustin Freisen on your blueline, there’s no hope." ~ David
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What about Mike Smith? Is it too late to put in a waiver claim? T- Bay waived him a couple days ago..
by CanadianIsleslifer on Feb 4, 2011 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
replied below
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the only bright side is there’s obvious problems with BP, and Mikko is coming off of Hip Surgery
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because part of the problem is definitely Bridgeport, and it does take some time to recover from hip injuries.
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They are giving up 40-50 shots on a regular basis
Their D is so ugly that the NHL is probably better for both goalies development at this point.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
TheAHL doesn’t have quality chances listed, but I’m sure the opposing teams are spending a ton of time in BPs zone, especially when you see them managing 3-5 shots a period sometimes.
"When you’re dressing Dustin Freisen on your blueline, there’s no hope." ~ David
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Sounded like Mikko was playing through injury
Although what, and how bad, was never clear.
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I wonder which body part has more swelling face or his knee?
It’s like a competition with himself to see which injury is the most painful!
"It's a good thing the Islanders spent the offseason compiling organizational depth on the blueline. Because, yes, they're losing defensemen almost as rapidly as they're losing games."
sigh
I think that smile DP was sporting at the start of the heh “fight” was the realization that he had his ticket back to the IR list. Btw first post here. Been reading avidly for a few months now…Started to feel like a stalker so figured I’d chip in.
Welcome aboard!
And your first post is rather hilarious, I might add.
Commissioner of the FIG pool, 'cause I make one crappy player.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Feb 4, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Ha, welcome!
Although we’re fine with stalkers, too — it makes us feel desirable.
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At this point I begin to feel bad for the guy.
@DigDeepNYR
"I like a man who grins when he fights." -Sir Winston Churchill
"It's just pain." -Brandon Prust | "In Prust we Trust."
There's always that mix of reactions for me
I mean the broken face, well that was completely in his control. But the grueling rehab and surgery frustration, the spiral of injuries that began with a damn All-Star Skills competition — that’s the stuff of Greek tragedy.
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by Dominik on Feb 4, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
The injuries he can’t really help (lower body stuff) invoke my pity and sympathy. So much talent and promise… I was sure he’d be the heir to the USA goaltending throne after Richter. I even did my best to try and like the guy (as much as a Ranger fan could) but he put himself in a terrible position with the Johnson fight. It just gets sad at this point.
He was grinning right up until Johnson’s punch connected… what a waste.
@DigDeepNYR
"I like a man who grins when he fights." -Sir Winston Churchill
"It's just pain." -Brandon Prust | "In Prust we Trust."
I even did my best to try and like the guy (as much as a Ranger fan could)
Wow, that is some impressive cognitive gymnastics, sir! I don’t know if I could’ve tried the same in your shoes.
Sigh, yes it once looked like he’d be USA’s #1.
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Well, I manage to like Parise when he is wearing the USA sweater…
At least we have Miller for international competition, not a bad consolation prize.
@DigDeepNYR
"I like a man who grins when he fights." -Sir Winston Churchill
"It's just pain." -Brandon Prust | "In Prust we Trust."
Personality-wise
I’m just thinking for an opposing fan, Parise’s (and Richter’s actually) personality/image/whatever is easier to acquiesce to.
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I agree. DiPietro unfortunately comes off as a cocky goofball and is very hard to like if he isn’t wearing your team’s sweater.
@DigDeepNYR
"I like a man who grins when he fights." -Sir Winston Churchill
"It's just pain." -Brandon Prust | "In Prust we Trust."
Cool of you to think well of RDP
In the spirit of true confessionals, I will admit that I always like Brian Leetch. Guy always looked like he conducted himself with class. Plus, helluva hockey player.
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We could use Leetch now, the powerplay has been ugly for… well let’s just say for a long, long time.
@DigDeepNYR
"I like a man who grins when he fights." -Sir Winston Churchill
"It's just pain." -Brandon Prust | "In Prust we Trust."
Wait, I though Del Zotto Matt Gilroy Ryan McDonagh was the second coming?
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by David Hanssen on Feb 4, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
Oh no
Stop playing that music! Stop it! This keeps up we’re going to have some kind of Rangers-Islanders group hug and I’m going to be forced to admit things I don’t want to!
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End times
Lions now laying with the lambs, what the hell is going on here?
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It’s the only thing… that there’s just…. too little of!
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by mikb on Feb 4, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What IS this, Jackie DeShannon Week or something?
Bacharach, then? Just BOUGHT that download 2 days ago and saw it on a used Time-Life AM Gold CD at FYE yesterday – also waiting on a Dionne Warwick greatest hits CD on Rhino for the archiving…..
LOL. Just trying to have a civil talk with you guys, if it makes you uncomfortable I’ll get out of here. Take it easy.
@DigDeepNYR
"I like a man who grins when he fights." -Sir Winston Churchill
"It's just pain." -Brandon Prust | "In Prust we Trust."
COMPLETELY kidding, Dig Deep
You’re welcome here and have enjoyed this exchange.
I was channeling I think a Monty Python Holy Grail scene where the father keeps stepping in to keep his effeminate son from breaking out into song.
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She has HUGE… tracts of land.
@DigDeepNYR
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"It's just pain." -Brandon Prust | "In Prust we Trust."
LOL, yes.
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by Dominik on Feb 4, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Like, the fact that he hangs with Justin Bieber?
Eddie Dane: How'd you get the fat lip?
Tom Reagan: Old war wound. Acts up around morons.
by IslesFanInNJ on Feb 4, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Damn
That man can dress.
Sigh… my Islanderness is absolutely ashamed of my hotness radar. :(
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm... you know, that actually helps a bit.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
I never liked......
He is the only one left MM brought in?
Every time he goes back of the net, my wife and daughter shout together" where he is going!!??"
There are others. Snow hasn't been here that long.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, Moulson, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
Rick DiPietro=Éric Fichaud with an absurdly long contract
"It's a good thing the Islanders spent the offseason compiling organizational depth on the blueline. Because, yes, they're losing defensemen almost as rapidly as they're losing games."
THIS IS THE PERFECT OP TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE IN
Cody Rosen…
time to leave school buddy!
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by bob l on Feb 4, 2011 1:21 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt
Back in the preseason when we talked about what we thought the biggest surprise was going to be I guessed DP would play 2/3 of the games and play well and that he would resume his career as at least a passable 1st goalie. I truly cannot believe that any more. He will never be fully recovered. The fact that they even mentioned the knee instead of burying it and just mentioning the fracture shows that it is a pretty serious issue. I truly believe his NHL days are numbered if not over completely. I think he will bow out of his contract within the next few years (if not this summer) and take a goalie coach or scouting job. I cannot see him embarrassing himself and destroying what’s left of his body for the next decade.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
The fact that they even mentioned the knee instead of burying it and just mentioning the fracture shows that it is a pretty serious issue.
That’s how I read it, certainly.
And I shared your benefit of the doubt in preseason — he certainly wouldn’t have that benefit without the contract (most injured goalies out of contract have to work their way back, Emery-style), but all that considered it’s only reasonable to expect it’s going to take a guy a long while to get back from those surgeries. I wasn’t betting on it, but I didn’t feel fair making a call either way without him trying. We’re fast approaching the end of that window tthough.
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I’ve never heard of a player ever fully recovering who had repeated career threatening injuries in the same area or the same reacurring injury. I wonder if DP agreed to go to the Bridge as a player coach (even if he played only a few games a year), would his salary then NOT be counted against the cap? I am wondering this in part due to the Rangers sending Redden down and his salary not counting against their cap. Someone may argue it is circumventing the CBA, but so was Doug Weight’s contract – waiting till the last minute to identify roster and budget, then signing him with “incentive” clauses he would never realistically reach.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Feb 4, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
going to the minors is not circumventing the cap - it is cap management
Most teams don’t want to pay NHL money for AHL performance, but DP would actually make more money playing in the AHL because none of it goes to escrow like his NHL money. Hard to believe, but true if what I read about Redden’s contract is true.
At this point it is probably true that he could be sent down with no one taking a chance on him, re-entry next year is probably safe at this point as well. Why would the Islanders send him down way since he is being paid either way and there isn’t a cap issue? There comes a point where it isn’t just bad luck, but fate that keeps these things recurring. I may finally have to turn the corner and say DP is no longer viable. I’m still not going to hate the player since all of this has been happening to him despite his best intentions, but it is unfreaking believable.
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by Hockey1919 on Feb 4, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe he's just injury prone.
It doesn’t have to be fate or bad luck. Maybe the connective tissue of some people is just not as strong as others. Some players get injured over and over while others hardly ever do.
by TMS on Feb 4, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Injury prone meaning you have a higher probablity of being injured than someone else is just the scientific jargon for saying bad luck ;). I could see it with the knee and hips, getting punched in the face shows that it isn’t a connective tissue thing.
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by Hockey1919 on Feb 4, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This?
as a player coach
I have absolutely zero confidence in his decision making as a player, much less a coach. I’m not even sure I would let him talk about anything other than scouting reports if that happened.
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
Both Face fracture and Knee swelling?
The face bone is not connected to the knee bone (although DPs head bone is periodically connected to his ass bone).
Abnormal swelling again? or did anyone see him do something to “injure” his knee. Beyond that a joint simply can’t sustain years of inflammatory insults and retain high level athletic function, its just not medically possible. Arthritis and destructive insults will diminish function to the point where high level performance is not possible . That day is coming sooner and sooner with every one of these swelling episodes.
DP i’ll bet he won’t be playing within 2 years.
by neologizer on Feb 4, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Nope
Maybe the actual collision with Cooke, but really, his lateral movement was ugly in that game, and it makes you wonder why he may have been “cheating” in the first place on goal #2.
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
Cheating
That’s been my number 1 concern all season. He’s had his fine moments, and on initial shots point blank he looks technically sound, fast glove and all; but recoveries and side-to-side always look deliberate, almost painfully so. Like he’s had to completely relearn how to do things, to an extreme. The slow side-to-sides may even be from extreme discipline (“I can’t do the move I used to, that leads to trouble”) rather than pain, but the result is the same.
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by Dominik on Feb 4, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Common comment
Lateral slowness…. and what would you expected to go first from arthritis and chronic inflammatory damage of the knee?
yup
You can see a HUGE difference between Poulins agility and DP’s….DP USED to be known for athleticism but now hes known as GLASS
You know...
this all started when he began taking BP with the Mets…
Maybe they’ll send David Wright over to suit up and straddle the bench.
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I have had major knee surgeries......
and was VERY atheletic.
Even just attempting it afterward, you just can’t do things the way you used to….whether it is in the back of your mind somewhere telling you not to do it so soon for fear of re-injury or having another blowout by the way you pivot, etc.
I just do not see him being able to perform as a top-notch goaltender with the chronic knee problems.
Heck, I stopped doing my activities because even just the swelling from NORMAL activities were enough.
Native LI'er living in the land of Black & Gold.
whether it is in the back of your mind somewhere telling you not to do it so soon for fear of re-injury or having another blowout by the way you pivot, etc.
That behavior is another reason the recurring swelling is an alarm. Even if it’s not a chronic issue (to be as forgiving as possible, say it’s just … a really long post-op recovery), every time it happens is another notch of fear in his head. Another subconscious reason to conserve energy/reps and not go all out except when obviously necessary.
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and the one time he really did go all-out recently
He hurt himself trying to make a save. That can’t be good.
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Passing the torch
I wanted to give DP the benefit of the doubt too, and at times this season, I was pleased and satisfied with his performance. DP has tremendous pride in being an Islander and he truly bleeds Islanders blue and orange. He’s given his all to prove that he can still play, and even though I would constantly yell at the TV to tell DP to stop wandering too far from the net, I felt that he was on his way back to at least respectability.
However, the continued injury issues with DP this season has kept me worried, because I want to see DP and this Islanders play well. He may need to make a decision soon about his playing career, whether it’s after this season or in a few seasons. But in any case, I would certainly expect him to retire as an Islander.
If his playing days are numbered, I believe that we are seeing the passing of the torch, from Rick DiPietro to Kevin Poulin. I have a lot of confidence that Poulin will be quite the goaltender for the Islanders in the future.
dom...
is that the pic of DP right before that fateful face off?
NYI Hockey! We'll get that winless month yet!
I have like 20
Pics of DP like that, he does it during EVERY break in play.
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OMG
can’t believe i missed the “here we go” next to him… PERFECT
NYI Hockey! We'll get that winless month yet!
The Isles have 2 options now.
Option One:
Sign yet another guy. Is the Tampa Goalie still on waivers?
Option Two:
Garth Snow laces 'em up and plays the rest of the year. During pre-game warm-ups, he lets the opponent know that he will trade for whoever scores on him. Snow then goes on a 20-game shutout streak and goes directly to the Hall of Fame.
Commissioner of the FIG pool, 'cause I make one crappy player.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Feb 4, 2011 1:34 PM EST reply actions
(“Option Two” is eclipsed by the power of the sarcasm font)
Commissioner of the FIG pool, 'cause I make one crappy player.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Feb 4, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Not only that, but the sarcasm font is so powerful, it cut off the rest of the statement.
Here it is in full, sarcasm font free:
Option Two:
Garth Snow laces ’em up and plays the rest of the year. During pre-game warm-ups, he lets the opponent know that he will trade for whoever scores on him. Snow then goes on a 20-game shutout streak and goes directly to the Hall of Fame.
Commissioner of the FIG pool, 'cause I make one crappy player.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Feb 4, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Finally
The Manny Legace Era can begin!
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They are rapidly running out of good options
I mean, at this point I feel like trying out. At least I’d be getting embarrassed by NHL shooters instead of cops, bartenders, and systems analysts.
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by mikb on Feb 4, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I haven’t played goalie in a decade.
If we ever have an LHH pickup game, we’ve got to put down a bet on who lets in the most embarrassing goal.
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since I don't know what "STR" is
… I have to say no. =D
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Ummm- Emery or Legace?
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
It does not really matter now.
I hate to say it MC, but I told you so. This team can not progress without quality and dependable goalie. Sad to say DP is not our answer anymore. But you can disagree.
by Russel Ginart on Feb 4, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
You told me so what, exactly?
That DiPietro would get in a goalie fight?
I missed that one- point it out to me lol.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
NO nothing to do with the fight
That for three years this team has not had dependable and steady goaltending and sad to say DP can do that for this team. Yesterady I listed all the guys that have played in net for us. Its been a turnstyle of netmiders. No team can build let alone one that is rebuliding improve in that mannner. As I have stated I am NOT a DP basher, I would like nothing more for him to make a come back and backstop this team into the promised land. I just don’t think his body will allow him to accomplish that. Meanwhile the team in front of suffers.
by Russel Ginart on Feb 4, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
As I have stated I am NOT a DP basher, I would like nothing more for him to make a come back and backstop this team into the promised land. I just don’t think his body will allow him to accomplish that. Meanwhile the team in front of suffers.
Well I worry about the exact same thing, Ive said it many times.
Its the “I told you so” thing that is throwing me off. At what time have I EVER said that Ricks longevity is NOT a concern?
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
Not to mention
This part:
This team can not progress without quality and dependable goalie.I swear half of DiPietro debates are a misunderstanding of one another’s position. (Not to butt in here…)
Lighthouse Hockey: "I’m starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy is holding our goaltender." -Hockey1919
Its so true.
The point that I have made TIME AND AGAIN is that people want to make a definitive decision regarding the rest of his career- and they CANT YET. They WANT TO, but they CANT.
But in discussing that, people in general seem to have this compulsion to imagine things.
Like, if someone (like me) argues with a statement such as “ITS 100% CERTAIN THAT RICK WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO PLAY WELL AGAIN” well then that MUST mean that the person (like me) thinks, ""ITS 100% CERTAIN THAT RICK WILL BE AN EXCELLENT STARTING GOALIE AGAIN"
But that is not only ridiculous, but it is also VERY faulty logic. Just because I counter one doesnt mean I wouldnt counter the other. In fact, I have- many times. I just see the first one far, far more. I personally think either of those opinions are baseless.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
No problem Dom
Butt in anytime you wish, Im a big boy (50YO), I realize that sometimes what I type may be perceived differently, Its not the same as face to face communication, and its not meant to insult anyone on this site.
by Russel Ginart on Feb 4, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
That happens to all of us.
People get confused by what other people say on message boards all the time. We dont have voice inflection or facial expressions, its just strings of characters on a page. I know Im not insulted, I just really wanted to clarify this… because people so often get my stand on things completely wrong because they saw me argue against one illogical extreme and presume that I advocate another, even though I dont buy into either of them. I hope that makes sense.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I know Russel
Like you both said, it’s always harder without any inflections, expressions or non-written cues.
It’s just funny because I’ve read both of your opinions and then saw “I told you so. This team can not progress without quality and dependable goalie” in sequence and thought, “I think I know what he means, but that’s not how I read it when I see that part.”
Which got me thinking to how we tend to jump to inferences, limited by the scope of this medium. … which is why humor is a safe default.
Lighthouse Hockey: "I’m starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy is holding our goaltender." -Hockey1919
Is it possible that he hurt the knee as he was crumbling after the punch?
You can’t make this shit up anymore
you see the reason he has facial swelling is because he tried to stop a fist with his face and it didnt work. If he put as much effort into stopping pucks with his face at least the mask would protect him. this seems perfectly logical to me.
Does this mean
we now hold the NHL record for most broken faces from one punch fights in a single season?
NTIPC
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 4, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
At what point...
should he take one for the team and retire? I know he’s trying and nobody can fault his passion and love for the game but this team needs stability and that is something DP can no longer bring to the table. If he can’t play more than 20 games with out his knee swelling or a hip issue it’s time to call it quits-both for the team and his own health. If he keeps this up he’s going to be hobbling around by the time he’s 35 and what kind of life is that.
quote from the pitcher:
"When I signed my contract, my main goal was to earn it," Meche said this week by phone from Lafayette, La. "Once I started to realize I wasn’t earning my money, I felt bad. I was making a crazy amount of money for not even pitching. Honestly, I didn’t feel like I deserved it. I didn’t want to have those feelings again."
"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)
especially since his manager essentially ruined his career/shoulder.
Guy was complaining of a dead arm and had lost velocity after a 120-pitch complete game, so what did Royals do? Sent him out two weeks later and let him throw 136 pitches. A couple of weeks later, DL then surgery.
"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington
If I ever had a contract like that and somehow couldn't perform, what would I do?
I would consider it like a lottery ticket, I didn’t really “earn” those millions either, but it is still legally mine and I’d be keeping it.
Since we’ve already had a little Ranger love fest today, I was impressed by Naslund retiring on an over 35 contract and freeing up the money and cap space when he decided he no longer wanted to play.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
Really if he feels guitly why not just donate a few million to his favorite charity.
Every contract is a risk willingly entered into by the team. Meche has no reason to feel guilty. Plus he would pitch if he could.
by TMS on Feb 4, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
I don't really follow baseball
But I did wonder if part of his “guilt” was rooted more in, “I don’t want to be a bullpen guy.” Who knows.
If I had DP’s contract and injury situation, I would absolutely still be playing right now. I probably wouldn’t stop until going through the same crap next season, too. You get one life, and you never get younger.
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The Millionaire's Lament
Often served with caviar and champagne…
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speaking of millionaire's laments
“Great – Isles traded us their HEALTHY guy.” #danellisproblems
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Sweet...
Yeah, Roloson is thrilling dozens of folks in tampa each night. I wonder how guys like him and Ozzie feel about DP and the Islanders? When you think about so many people who came from and went to BETTER situations, is it really that hard to explain why UFA’s don’t want to play here.
At least we got Matty for another three years…
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Ozzy and Rollie may hate DP or not, but they have to LOVE the Islanders. The Isles took them in when no one wanted them, let them hang around long enough to get their careers re-etablished and then returned them to competitive teams. That’s a history lesson Nabokov could have learned.
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in Soviet Russia
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Ozzy and Rollie may hate DP or not, but they have to LOVE the Islanders. The Isles took them in when no one wanted them, let them hang around long enough to get their careers re-etablished and then returned them to competitive teams. That’s a history lesson Nabokov could have learned.
By what both of them have said (actually said) it seems like they do.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
This is really unfortunate. After two days of interviews and glory, Johnson is probably going to feel bad about this… not that he meant to break anything, but nobody wishes facial fractures on anyone (I hope). Sorry guys. :(
I believe in Geno.
When MAF is in you should dress Johnson as your goon
Who knew a goalie could hit like that.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
We have a surplus of guys who fight on our team, but it’s true he demonstrated that he can punch just as well as our actual fighters.
Eric Godard was just out for several weeks for something similar, a punch to the face that broke his orbital and messed up his eye. It seemed really unfortunate that one punch kept him out for so long, but at least Godard was an enforcer so he got hurt just doing his job. Losing a goalie to something similar would be really awful.
I believe in Geno.
It was fun having Godard around when he was an Islander
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
Wonder if this explains the two softies he gave up...
Maybe he knew, like Mickey Rourke’s character in ‘The Wrestler’, that his knee was done after that game and decided to go out with a Big Bang.
"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)
Conspiracy Theory.
This thought entered my mind too. Although, it’s a tough decision to embarrass oneself like that.
All this means is that Brent Johnson punches really hard.
Facial fracture on a negative x-ray, okay it seems contradictory to me, but I’m no MD. I almost think that they mentioned the knee swelling to detract from the fact that he has a broken face. I really feel bad for the guy and I’m always hoping that he comes back from his latest set back, but I’m starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy is holding our goaltender.
What I really care about is that it is no longer and organizational decision if Poulin stays up or goes to Bridgeport. DP will forever be a question mark, but this could affect the team for the next five years if not handled correctly. The Islanders really don’t have an option do they, but keep him up and hope Poulin isn’t Bailey’ed.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
by Hockey1919 on Feb 4, 2011 1:45 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Oh now that's good
I’m starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy is holding our goaltender.
Preserving that one for a while.
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by Dominik on Feb 4, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Methinks the colors make it easier for other "writers" to find material
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
I like the thought...
but I think it’s a little confused.
Do you want to kick Ricky, and Lucy pulls him away at the last moment?
I would say that RDP is more like the Wile E. Coyote of goaltenders… and WINNING is the Roadrunner…
after knocking him out, Johnson was heard telling DP, “Meep meep!”
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You know I thought the same thing, I was thinking I don’t want to kick the goaltender, but it is the same sense of hopelessnes. I’m using poetic license like Alannis Morrisette using ironic completely wrong and selling millions of records.
Now there was that one instance where Wile E. did catch the Roadrunner, but he was t oo small to do anything about it.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
The way I see it...
Wile E. Pietro just got his ACME MUSCLES IN A BOTTLE and he wanted to try them out. First he uses them to trip up Elmer Fudd… while bugs and daffy take care of him in the corner he figures he can go take out Roadrunner… Ooops.
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Wile E. inspired me to get my degrees in engineering,
Now that speaks volumes about my engineering ability and my willingness to stick by a loser.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
by Hockey1919 on Feb 4, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
At least you're a civil engineer...
…I’m not sure why, but that sounded funny in my head.
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We used to call civil engineers “cement engineers” since all it takes to build a road is to pour more cement, but that’s just me being a snob.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
They're also good with tripods...
they are also good traffic forecasters… if you see one on the side of the road with a tripod you need to start taking a different route to work.
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I know some surveyors and their good guys and take after George Washington.
I think the CEs just stay indoors.
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I used to do this before I became a fireman.
Surveying was lotsa fun, and isn’t merely confined to streets, but rivers and beach as well. Great job for those who love the outdoors and the big city. Although I could’ve done without Jamaica Bay…god what a dump! I almost drowned in quick-ooze.
"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)
So true
A guy with a tripod taking his sweet time is like a canary in the coal mine. (“Crap! NOW what are they going to do to my route?”)
Lighthouse Hockey: "I’m starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy is holding our goaltender." -Hockey1919
Whoa
I’m using poetic license like Alannis Morrisette using ironic completely wrong and selling millions of records.
This is some meta-faux irony sh#t right here…
Lighthouse Hockey: "I’m starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy is holding our goaltender." -Hockey1919
Looks like Burnside is a loyal reader of LHH. . .
http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/4350/stars-again-align-against-rick-dipietro-isles
Charlie Brown, Lucy, Wile E. Coyote . . . it’s all in there! Including the obligatory cheap shots at the franchise in general.
What a dick.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
I can argue with ripping other peoples brains off and putting his own stupid name on it.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
Its pathetic, thats what it is.
This was posted up online at 1pm… and LHH really is one of the biggest Isles sites around. Plenty of time for him to read, rip off, and attempt to make himself look witty. And throw in the usual shitshots at the Isles in general, of course.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
I just read it
What an F..ing losser, all that Charley Brown, Wil E coyote stuff, was all posted here.much earlier. All I can say about it is DELETE!! by the way MC nice PIX of yourself, Rock on girl!!
by Russel Ginart on Feb 4, 2011 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
Haha, thank you.
I didnt understand what you were even talking about at first, I had to go look there lol.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
Whoa!
According to canucks_jay, this is a crappy blog. What have I been doing with myself here!?
See ya’ll!
/snarkasm
LOL!
I know, but apparently I should just shut up if I dont think Burnside is DA KEWLEST.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 5, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
Added to Burnsides list of crimes
Intellectual property theft. Think JP and I could sue for stealing our thread?
I can guarentee that I don’t read that douche and would never stela one of his thoughts.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
How about
Being the bastard love child of Carrot-top and an oompa loompa while also not being as funny. That guy is more orange than Snooki on a Friday night DTF outing.
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
by Keith Quinn on Feb 5, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Burnside
I’ve been wanting to start up a collection to buy Burnside a clue for years now. Not only is he particularly harsh on the Islanders, he doesn’t do much research on the team. At least other hockey writers (Pierre LeBrun, etc.) try to be intelligent when discussing the Islanders (good or bad).
by Dougtone on Feb 5, 2011 8:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That guy
One of my favorite writers.
But anyway, Hey Hanrahan — nice screen name! I know! I know!
Lighthouse Hockey: "I’m starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy is holding our goaltender." -Hockey1919
So Nabokov feels like a right arsehole?
Whoops. Walked right out of a starting role now, huh?
Kevin Poulin this is your team. Your GM will be backing you up.
I'm projecting, but...
…this is why I feel like Nabokov isn’t even that interested in playing hockey anymore, he just wanted a reasonable shot at getting a cheap ring. All of his decisions since last summer don’t point to a guy who was into it for the game. And being willfully ignorant that the Isles could very well use him and he could use the opportunity to prove himself, well…yeah, right arsehole indeed.
Lighthouse Hockey: "I’m starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy is holding our goaltender." -Hockey1919
agreed, I remember ranting about his decision last year to pass up at least 2 cup contenders (Chicago, Philly) to take more money to play in the KHL.
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NabFukOv will probabaly sit the start of next season and then look to cherry pick a team after the All-Star break if the Isles don’t toll his contract and he sits on his ass out in Cali. I just hope noone picks him up and we never have to hear about him again,
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
Pointless to Toll him
Obviously I like the threat of tolling him to get him to play this year, but if he’s not going to play, I don’t think he’ll be any more willing to play next season.
He’d be a cancer on the team if we did toll him and he played.
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Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
I actually agreed with Larry Brooks that tolling NabFukov would only make the Islanders look petty and I have to think the threat was only to put pressure on him. I doubt he even wants to play an entire season so the likelihood is he doesn’t even bother to sign a contract until mid-way through the season, if anyone is looking for a goaltender that hasn’t played in a year.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
Yeah but next season we can trade him without passing him through waivers.
I think. Is that right Dom?
by TMS on Feb 4, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
except he still has his NMC, which means he has final say over where he goes
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So?
That NMC would only affect us is he doesnt WANT to leave LI.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously, but he could also nix trades for spite.
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LOL!
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
I hate that restaurant
Terrible food – and such small portions!
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To my knowledge
If he is tolled, his contract just applies to next year, and the NMC remains. But I thought the waiver issue — as far as having to clear before being traded — shouldn’t apply anymore since he wouldn’t be starting the season outside the NHL.
I can see some merit to using him if he were willing, then pumping and dumping him. But like Bartleby the Scrivener I prefer not to.
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by Dominik on Feb 4, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
True he would not have started next season outside of the NHL, but it is reallly weird when it comes to tolling contracts and waiver rules that are retroactive to the rules that applied at the time of the signing.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
No doubt. And a lot of the re-waiver stuff on these guys isn’t actually in the CBA that’s publicly available, so who knows. Definitely don’t quote me on this one. I’m on CBA sabbatical.
Lighthouse Hockey: "I’m starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy is holding our goaltender." -Hockey1919
Its a wash for the Isles regardless… but the NHL are the ones who really stand to lose if players get the idea that they can shit on the entire waiver system and do wht they want. The fact that Daly and Bettman have both cited “the Yashin precedent” and said that they “expect” the contract to be tolled even though Snow has said no such thing makes me think that the NHL is going to tell Snow to toll it. And snow will do what they say because… why wouldnt he?
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Damn Dom!!!
At least you didn’t use Poulin in a post with that title…
Yeah… I’m a little superstitious.
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My Poulin Projection...
…Dave Poulin will have a solid but not remarkable career, playing for multiple teams I hate.
Lighthouse Hockey: "I’m starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy is holding our goaltender." -Hockey1919
Nabokov
If we’re projecting about Nabokov, does this lead to an injury even if he isn’t playing hockey?
meteor strikes once again
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
Or maybe
Charlie will reassign Scott Gordon from his mystery “advisor” role and tell him to lace’em back up.
by Original Rob on Feb 4, 2011 1:52 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
this is what I'm saying
get Gordo back between the pipes. Then he can direct the ultra-speed forecheck he created.
What do I win???
Just not a good decision, AND I’m certain he broke his cheekbone.
“Gervais…he looks danger in the fist with his face!” JPinVA
by Keith Quinn on Feb 2, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
Eat that Botta!
Couchside diagnostics…By KQ!
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
So when's the time....
…that Garth Snow announces open tryouts for goalies so we don’t “Bailey-ize” our prospect goalies? Hell I’d take a semester off of school to go play, I’ve got half a mind to just call up and see if that’s possible
things DP was heard mumbling before his famous skate to destiny
“let me show you how its done Bruno”
“my knee gave out before i could react”
“i thought his fist was the puck”
“he looked shorter from across the rink”
“MMA has nothing on me”
“I was actually calling out their stick boy”
Sometimes your the dog, sometimes your the hydrant
by risenrule on Feb 4, 2011 2:03 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Nice...
Here are few more…
“Hey, looks like Brent wants to know how I get my hair so sexy”
“Hey, you guys take care of the Cooke, I’m gonna go work on the kitchen”
“Man it’s hot in here… lemme take off my gloves… oh Hi Brent, OH SHIT?”
After altercation
“Hey… aren’t you Brent Johnson… when did you get traded to the Stars”
“Do over… I wasn’t ready”
“Get back here you coward… You don’t know who you’re messin’ with… I’m the Black Knight”
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by JPinVA on Feb 4, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
They are no longer
Lighthouse Hockey: "I’m starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy is holding our goaltender." -Hockey1919
Smith has cleared waivers, but has not been re-assinged to Norfolk
So the Islanders can no longer put in a claim for him unless they recall him, but he is unsigned for next year. So does Tampa care about getting him off the books since they actually need help down in Norfolk? Besides he was out for most of the season with an MCL injury so what makes anyone think he would last more than five games in an Islander uniform with our track record?
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
b/c not really concerned so much about his track record, know the stats, has NHL experience, no contract next year…would have help spared the kids in net over next 31 games. no other reason
by CanadianIsleslifer on Feb 4, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
With Islander hip and now Islander Face
being rampant I doubt Smith would have lasted more than a week. He probably would have been hit by a meteor in the Colisuem parking lot if he were healthy.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
by Hockey1919 on Feb 4, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Tim Jackman, too
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 5, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
If the Islanders ever want to turn the corner, they MUST get rid of DP
I understand getting punched in the face is not (technically) his fault, but misery (and underachieving) are synonymous with DP. He is THE microcosm of all that’s bad left to us from the Milbury years. He must go.
I can’t stand having this guy on our team anymore. Sorry to vent but I’ve been a DP detractor from back in the day, and nothing has changed with him, or my feelings towards him being on the Isles.
In a perfect world.....
DP would retire, thus taking his salary off the cap, ending his obvious embarassment, and still get paid his salary. If only….
side note, obviously even in this perfect world senario, DP still cant stay healthy
by Meet Me at the Lighthouse on Feb 4, 2011 2:05 PM EST reply actions
Salary cap isn’t even an issue for the Islanders. It may actually be beneficial at this point to allow his contract to run at a higher rate so when and if they do decide to buy him out there are less years left on it.
At this point they can barely make it to the floor and it will be the same amount of money they are spending with or without his contract. If he retires, he doesn’t get paid unless it is injury related if I’m correct and the cap hit comes off the books since it is an under 35 contract.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
Yeah, it’s unclear what the Isles’ financial commitment is if he ever retires because of his knee. The vague news reports at the time of the signing implied 1) it was insured to some extent, and 2) he gets paid even if he has to retire early because of injury.
At some point along the contract arc a buyout may be cheaper than their early retirement/injury liability, but certainly not now. And like you said, the cap hit itself matters not a bit.
Lighthouse Hockey: "I’m starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy is holding our goaltender." -Hockey1919
UN-BELIEVEABLE.
all i can do is laugh. if there really is knee swelling, then i’m now in the ‘enough is enough camp’ – he/they need to end his career.
but i too wonder if they threw the knee thing in there because of embarrassment that he got his face smashed up.
either way, there is just no end to the foul-ups, shenanigans, fiascos, screw-ups, mishaps, missteps and debacles for this team.
the only thing to do is laugh.
His side-to side ...
quickness wasn’t there when he first came back, and it clearly still isn’t.
His glove is still quick and the heart is still there but the man can’t move well enough to make some pretty routine saves. Hips, knees, or all of it, it just isn’t there. And at this point, is it gonna come back?
Pretty sad. I like guy. If the other night turns out to be his last game, what a legacy, huh?
The goalie who got his face crushed and then retired.
Johnson UFC
that punch looked like something out of UFC, perfect place to connect and perfect punch for a KO…wonder if Johnson ever had professional fight training
by CanadianIsleslifer on Feb 4, 2011 2:08 PM EST reply actions
What'll probably happen
We have Mikko tonight as Emergency backup.
Then we trade a bag of pucks for someone like Gerber, or sign someone like Legace.
Vet goaltenders are a dime a dozen right now.
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I was thinking about that
But I think the reason they didn’t sign him last time is that he’d have to go through waivers.
Either that or an emergency contract is only 2 weeks long, so it wouldn’t help that much
"When you’re dressing Dustin Freisen on your blueline, there’s no hope." ~ David
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
I think they max at 2 weeks, but I’m not the CBA guy for sure.
"When you’re dressing Dustin Freisen on your blueline, there’s no hope." ~ David
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Dubie?
Someone told me they just coulda sworn they saw him at the Taco Bell across from the NVMC
Played in Germany, would need to clear waivers I believe
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switch-a-roo
put Nabokov back on waivers same time you pull Dubie through it?
Knowing our luck...
… They’d both get snagged.
Commissioner of the FIG pool, 'cause I make one crappy player.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Feb 4, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
you could sign Dubie to a ridiculous amount
Also Emery supposedly wants to try making it in the NHL again
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That's where Detroit screwed up
If they overpaid no one would have claimed Nabokov….though that would have obviously put them over the cap.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
precisely why they won’t change waiver rules
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by Mark D on Feb 4, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Detroit
I think Detroits error of margin with the salary cap is so razor thin, that it is the reason why Nabokov signed for what he signed for.
It was about 10k if I remember
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
you could sign Dubie to a ridiculous amount
Wouldnt even have to be ridiculous. As long as he is making a few hundred K over league minimum, who would take him?
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Oh Yeah
I was so ticked off when the Isles lost him because on waivers
Dom had it exactly right....
This is the stuff of Greek Tragedy. I’m at a loss for words for how 1 man can be this fragile. I really do like DP a lot, I think he plays with more heart and passion than most players but at some point something has to change. However since he initially got hurt in 2008 the ENTIRE team has been plagued with injuries to almost epic proportions. It would be really interesting to find out since the 08-09 season exactly how many Man-Games have been lost to injuries. Is Wang running the team like Mrs. Phelps in Major League? Do we have blow-up dolls for a medical staff? Is our therapy equipment relics from the stone-age? I just really don’t understand how 1 player and 1 team can have such an obscene amount of injuries in such a short amount of time?!?!?!?
The New York Islanders....they make opposing goalies look gooooood.
I don't think
you can blame injuries on the medical staff. I mean, two players have had their faces bashed in over the last two months. Nothing can be done about that to be sure.
Other than better education from the training staff, of course: “Lesson 1: If you let a guy punch you in the cheek, it will break. … Everybody write that down?”
Lighthouse Hockey: "I’m starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy is holding our goaltender." -Hockey1919
Im form Mexico
can you type that Lesson 1 in spanish, por favor? LOL
by Russel Ginart on Feb 4, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
There should be a warning on the gloves
Do not drop unless your face has been medically checked for punch-resistance.
Is there a "Lessons From The Islanders Training Staff" post in the offing?
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There should be
Paging Keith…Keith, report to duty…
Lighthouse Hockey: "I’m starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy is holding our goaltender." -Hockey1919
I'm not talking about just Gervais and DP's face...
What about all the hip, shoulder, and groin inuries? Something is not right with either the training staff, the arena, the player’s equipment, or maybe we just have a team full of fragile players? It just seems really fishy that guys like Eaton and Mottau come aboard and they were by no means injury prone players with their other teams but neither one of them could make it through even a half of a season with the Isles.
The New York Islanders....they make opposing goalies look gooooood.
Its not the training staff
And the Isles already did revamp their training staff. You cannot “train” guys in a way so as not to have the kinds of injuries they are having, it doent work like that.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know
I think there are special training methods to prevent torn knee ligaments and concussions. Just rub some dirt on it and get back out there!
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by David Hanssen on Feb 4, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe the guys are over-training then?
There has to be some reason other than pure chance why each and every year we have to deal with the entire D corps, DP, and one or two key forwards getting injured and missing significant amounts of time.
IMO we’re never going to get any better if our players can’t stay healthy.
The New York Islanders....they make opposing goalies look gooooood.
The tough thing with this question...
is 18-26 guys on your roster each year still isn’t a great sample — especially when so many of the injuries are broken bones or freak injuries (Streit and KO) that shouldn’t have much to do with training, unless Streit and KO somehow neglected basic weight training and maintenance, which I highly doubt. There are injury waves across the league, and each year a few teams seem to get bit really unfairly hard.
So you can go back a few years of horrific man-game injury totals and get a slightly better sample (but again, how many broken bones and DP injuries are among those?). In the end I don’t think blaming the training staff is any more provable than blaming the ice (Sillinger, Comrie hips?) or blaming God for really trying to screw the Isles.
Lighthouse Hockey: "I’m starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy is holding our goaltender." -Hockey1919
I know that all teams have injuries...
The Devils this year for example are having a tough time keeping guys healthy but this marks the 3rd season in a row for a severe multitude of injuries and man-games lost to injury. I don’t see other teams being as severely bitten by the injury bug as the Isles are and have been. It just seems to me that something is wrong and it needs to be fixed if we ever want to improve.
The New York Islanders....they make opposing goalies look gooooood.
On KO
We STILL don’t really know what happened to him. For all we know he could have dislocated that shoulder having some fun with PAP…
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
Fragile? Didn't know DP was Italian
If it wasn’t for his contract and commitment to playing,he would have been outta the NHL and likely not playing at all. I feel for the guy and think a lesser person wouldn’t even be the subject of this discussion now
Good thing he didn't put his eye out!
My sentiments lean towards a love hate relationship with him. I love the fact that he must have worked so hard to actually have been able to play at the NHL level again… and a pure unadulterated hatred for the fact that he has blown every chance he’s gotten with PURE STUPIDITY. I think Quinn summed it up best in his letter yesterday.
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I love that they actually sell those
Lighthouse Hockey: "I’m starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy is holding our goaltender." -Hockey1919
Do we have blow-up dolls for a medical staff?
That’s not why I have MY blowup doll, but maybe.
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
by Keith Quinn on Feb 4, 2011 2:23 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Dr. Quinn
Medicine Woman…
Okay Mr DiPietro, lemme take a look at that knee…mmmm you’re hung like a butterfly…. goalie. [bam chicka waa waa]
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by JPinVA on Feb 4, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oh look
Her right knee looks like DP’s right knee…also, her nipples are crooked!
bwahahah!
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
I really hope you
found that picture on google images and didn’t snap it yourself! lol
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Nice boots
Her wrist looks eligible for a workman’s comp claim though.
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by Dominik on Feb 4, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think she was out with the boyz last night...
…and now she has to cover her hoo hoo.
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JPinVA
Man you are firing on all cylinders today!!!
by Russel Ginart on Feb 4, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Ewww
You just made me think of her plastic hoo hoo. Thanks for nothing. 
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
One thing
I own those boots (well, close- mine are cuter, and certainly more expensive looking.)
Is that bad?
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
Who posted the "open letter RDP" yesterday???
You may want to re-send it.
Here was my response to that yesterday:::
Well said! For three plus years we have been waiting to have stability in goal, we are still waiting.
Just look at the unstable situation the team has had over the past three years:
Yan Dannis
Joey McDonald
Dwayne Roloson
Martin Biron
Nathan Lawson
Kevin Poulin
Rick DiPietro
Peter Mannino
Wade Bubielewicz
Who is next? (just added today)
The team has HAD to employ these people because our NO. 1, goalie can not play a full season and stay healthy. So much for stability, anyone can understand the frustration all Islanders fans are forced to endure. Yet, we continue to wait to see if DP can in some way stay in net for a solid year. One thing we all can agree is that a young team needs stable and dependable goaltending in order to progress and mature, they have NOT gotten it.
I believe that we should turn RDP’s post game prognosis into a Fig all it’s own or at least a drinking game.
Howie: Please keep asking Snow if he will toll Nabakov next year until he gives you an answer. Perhaps he will answer after the 20th time.
Perhaps we could call it Ricky’s Injury Time (RIT).
Howie: Please keep asking Snow if he will toll Nabakov next year until he gives you an answer. Perhaps he will answer after the 20th time.
R.I.P
rick’s injury prognosis – it’s only coincidence that makes it seem like i want him to die…
NYI Hockey! We'll get that winless month yet!
I thought of that but that is just too harsh. You have to take into account the time that DP served the Isles well. Unfortunately I think he is plagued with the curse of the one who will not be named.
Unfortunately, he is tied to a realllllly long contract but that is not his fault. His ego isn’t the only thing on the line when talking about retiring. We can only hope that he does some soul searching in the offseason and speaks with Garth about other possible positions with the organization.
Howie: Please keep asking Snow if he will toll Nabakov next year until he gives you an answer. Perhaps he will answer after the 20th time.
Advice to DP, if Snow offers you an office next to Trottier’s think twice before accepting.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
Mind explaining why the fuck you are taking potshots at me?
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
It's not a potshot
It’s just when someone wishes ill upon RDP (as bob said, he wasn’t purposely doing so), you are there to put that person in their place.
Yes, it was.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
Ok NOW I've had enough of this!
Rick, I respect the hell out of you. You have a professional attitude and no one doubts your commitment to the Islanders. You were a tremendous athlete that could have had a wonderful career, but for the sake of yourself, the fans and most importantly the team, please retire. Take a job in the organization as director of Scouting or Public Relations…You’d be good at those jobs!
I think the Pixies said it best:
I got a broken face, uh-hu, uh-hu
I got a broken face
There was this man who snapped his [cheek bone and knee and hip]
In little pieces
And then they drilled holes
And then they put ’em back in there
I got a broken face, uh-hu, uh-hu
I got a broken face
by Les Beaver on Feb 4, 2011 2:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Nice
Les got it playing in my head, I might as well turn on the real thing.
Lighthouse Hockey: "I’m starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy is holding our goaltender." -Hockey1919
With DP, Break My Body seems more appropriate, dontcha' think?
Same awesome album too!
Hey, Quebec, STAY THE HELL OUTTA THIS!
by BrassBonanza10 on Feb 5, 2011 2:51 AM EST up reply actions
I think it's about time...
They give Gilles a shot between the pipes. He’ll probably give up a few, but there’s almost no chance at all that our goalie will get his ass kicked by another goalie… unless the Rangers start Boogaard.
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Next year...
Starting lineup:
Moulson-Tavares-Parenteau
Streit-Martinek
Poulin
Howie Rose/Rick DiPietro
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Ouch: On Twitter
JPParise
Well, the one nice thing about a 20 year-old rookie goalie is that he’s more mentally mature than the flaming schmuck he’s replacing. #Isles
"When you’re dressing Dustin Freisen on your blueline, there’s no hope." ~ David
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Is that really JP on Twitter? How would he know other than through Zach? Brutal.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
most of his twits are pretty angry.
"When you’re dressing Dustin Freisen on your blueline, there’s no hope." ~ David
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
- Bio Tweets from a guy who is not, incidentally, J.P. Parise.The powers of accurate observation are routinely confused with pessimism by those who don’t get it.
Should have checked first
"When you’re dressing Dustin Freisen on your blueline, there’s no hope." ~ David
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
seemed incredulous and I don't follow tweets, I was relying on WebBard's good name to filter.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
There are many fakes
fake Bababoie had me fooled, lol
I'm not a fake !
I’m not the real Bababouy, but that’s what my Mom named me.
I make a mean peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
Even Howie Rose was baffled at DP's decision to fight after all the injuries and set backs
“Not that he particularly cares”
Its almost time for pitchers and catchers to report
"When you’re dressing Dustin Freisen on your blueline, there’s no hope." ~ David
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I have trouble watching games knowing how good the phillies are. The mets are so far away from the playoffs right nwo that it's not even funny.
And baseball is a lot slower then hockey and less entertaining imo, so no big loss for me. Even bad hockey is fun to watch. Bad baseball, not so much.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, Moulson, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
That really annoyed me
His constant praising of Matt MArtin for toughness and hitting while essentialy scolding DiPietro for having any contact let alone in a fight reminds me of the Sopranos… when they would all worship the bar gods and then scold poor Christopher if he had a drink.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
So
even though this was a freak accident, there is a lack of surprise DP is basically done for the year, well because he’s always done for the year. The assumption had to be he would get hurt, not that he wouldn’t.
That said, do we still feel good about moving Rolo for a guy who to date hasn’t been able to crack our, granted vaunted, defensive rotation? Sure he’d have to outplay a stud like Reese to get some burn, but even that’s not umpossible.
Now Poulin is thrown to the wolves with Even Less Qualified Goalie to be Named backing him up. I’d feel a whole lot better with him cleaning up behind Rolo at this point…
I’d prefer Poulin behind Roloson in retrospect and obviosuly not for wins and losses, but for development. However, if Roloson is still an Islander, then when DP gets hurt, Lawson would have been the backup option and we would have had no idea that Poulin would be capable and there would have been three men in net down in the AHL hindering Poulin’s development there instead. Yes it sucks we need to find a backup and fast, but a lot of this is hindsight. The Roloson trade told me that the Islanders really did believe DP could play or they are zoned in on a top two pick and weren’t going to let Roloson ruin it.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
RIght, and you can’t assume Lawson and Mikko Buys Cars also would have gotten hurt, but it’s a series of events only the Isles could manage. In essence they need to sign at least two goalies right now.
What they need to hire first is a shaman and an exorcist.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
by Hockey1919 on Feb 4, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm still fine with the trade
I liked getting a further-along prospect rather than another 2nd-rounder. Wishart may not pan out, just like the 2nd rounder might not, but I think there was the need for another prospect of that type, size, etc.
The way Poulin’s played, I don’t want him cleaning up behind a starter — I want him getting action. Normally I’d say I want him getting action in BPT, though others have pointed out that may be an even worse assignment the way they’re bleeding shots right now.
Still, I’m in favor of cashing in your rentals for the best value you can get. The goalie situation is now a bit in the crapper, but even there…the market for average goalies tends to flood.
Lighthouse Hockey: "I’m starting to feel like Charlie Brown and Lucy is holding our goaltender." -Hockey1919
Nice to get a body once in a while
Kind of like getting a real present instead of a gift card at Christmas. I know gift cards and cash guarantee I get what I want, but opening up the wrapper and actually getting something without going to the mall is kind of nice.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
I believe Reese was sent back to Bridgeport
That would make it more likely we’ll be seeing Wishart soon.
Commissioner of the FIG pool, 'cause I make one crappy player.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Feb 4, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
There is only one way we are rid of Rickety for the foreseeable future… that is, if his contract is covered by insurance.
Here’s why:
Chuck is trying to run this franchise on a budget. Their operating revenue is not covering their costs, so he has to reach into his pocket to fund the gap. Chuck’s been doing this for 10 years, but even he has a pain tolerance. As the league has mandated a cap floor Chuck has to target this pain threshold.
If he has to pay Rickety but the money doesn’t go against the cap then Chuck has to pay double… first to pay Rickety and then to pay player(s) to get to the cap floor. He’s not going to do this. Why do you think Rickety started this season on the Island and not at the Bridge? It was obvious he wasn’t ready, but there was no way Chuck was going to pay double!
Rickety is not going to walk away from tens of millions of dollars. Would you? So our only hope to end this saga is if his contract is covered by insurance. Let’s hope it is.
Lets hope you are right
The Isles had better have learnt their lesson on insuring an accident prone player from the Brett Lindros debacle. I would be shocked if the Isles do not have an insurance policy protecting themselves from such an event. That event being RDP.
by Russel Ginart on Feb 4, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
I thought the problem with DPs contract is that insurance would only cover 10 years and not the full 15. So we are looking at DP being on the roster for 2 more seasons before he “retires”.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
Thats FINE with me
Let DP be the part-time, ADHOC, back-up goalie. Now lets find ourselves a NO #1!
by Russel Ginart on Feb 4, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
I thought the problem with DPs contract is that insurance would only cover 10 years and not the full 15. So we are looking at DP being on the roster for 2 more seasons before he "retires".
???
Rick has 10.5 years remaining on his contract so I cannot figure out know where youre getting the 2 more seasons thing from.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with your assessment, especailly since the only scenario where Wang pays money and it doesn’t count against the cap is if DP goes to the minors. For Wang, best case is DP retires due to injury, insurance covers it and the Islanders sign another goaltender for less and an over 35 contact with bonuses that won’t be met covers the gap to the floor
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
An issue in the short term ......
Because in the long haul RDP is going to retire. His knee has been chronically inflamed for 3 years now, he can’t play more then a few games at a time. His performance has been notably deficient this year. He’s 30 and should be in his prime.
Does anyone really think DPs knees will allow NHL caliber goal tending in 10 years? let alone 3-5? I doubt he’ll even be able to play five years from now and I bet he’s done in 2. His long term health will start becoming a real issue regardless of saving Chuck a few bucks.
It is looking more and more suspect and for some the jury is already out, but I think this lingers for a couple more seasons or until the insurance kicks in. I really have been pulling for him and hoping against hope he could regain form, but missing another 6 weeks is a major setback.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
by Hockey1919 on Feb 4, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The big problem with DP
His medical problem (knee swelling) has ongoing for 3 years and continues to occur. There hasn’t been a resolution and since 2 surgeries and constant rehab hasn’t resolved it, there probably isn’t a clear one going forward
Garth should SUSPEND DP for acting like an ass and putting himself and the team in this situation, AGAIN!
I know this really cant happen because fighting is part of the sport but he deserves a suspension
Bababouy wishes Garth could do that
DP is a long term nightmare. Charles Wang should be ashamed of himself.
I make a mean peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
with regards to Poulin
I don’t see why this guy shouldn’t play out the rest of the season. I’ve seen alot of commentary (both here and in the media) on how he needs seasoning in the minors.
While I don’t disagree with that, the bottom line is that the guy has been holding his own up in the NHL and looks damn good in doing it. This with a so-so defensive corp in front of him. I say let him play up here. I also agree with some of the other posters on how well he moves from side to side and how he shuts down angles. and YES, at this point, he’s MUCH more athletic than DP, but then again, this can of soup I’m about to eat is more athletic than DP. ;-P
mmmmmmmmmmmm....................... Islander Hockeyyyyy............... *Homer drool*
I agree
Not sure why he can’t play up now. What is this “seasoning” they speak of anyway? Is he fundamentally sound in his play? If so, let him play up. Folks sometimes talk about hurting his confidence if he gets spanked. I say that is bullsh*t. If I was a rookie playing in the NHL in my rookie year and getting drubbed in net at the end of the day I wouldn’t think to myself, “boy I suck” I would think, “Damn, I’m a rookie and starting in the NHL!!!!” That would be a confidence boost. I guess it is all up to the individual. Hopefully Snow and Cap gauge this guy’s mental state and act accordingly.
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His GAA is .929%!!!
Its better then even Roli’s TB stats…..
Not that stat that matters though...Ws
I watch hockey because I love the game...I watch the Islanders because I hate myself. ~JPinVA
part of this is a little previous scarring
Let’s review the history of Isles goalies tossed to the wolves:
Jeff Hackett – drafted 2d round, 1987, gets a cup of coffee as a 20-yr old, and proceeds to get pummeled behind very bad Isles and Sharks teams until seeing some success in Chicago. LOWLIGHT: going 2-30-1, .856, 5.28 for the ‘92-’93 Sharks. Not a typo.
Eric Fichaud – some promising moments overwhelmed by the general suckage of the late-90’s Isles. Faced 31.2 shots per 60 minutes and could not stop enough of them (.899) to stick around. LOWLIGHT: out of the NHL by age 25.
Roberto Luongo – blossomed elsewhere. LOWLIGHT: from our point of view, The Trade. From everyone else’s, seeing the Chicago Blackhawks on the other bench.
So, as irrational as it may be, we as a fanbase add RDP to this collection of fail and missed opportunity and cringe about Keith Poulin’s future. (Or it it Kevin? Is there a difference?)
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Seasoning theory
The thinking behind this usually goes:
- You get lots of shots but they aren’t quite as good, quite as snipering picking you apart (okay, he’s had no problem with NHL shots, so scratch that one off the list)
- Through heavy workload and tougher competition the player gets tired more quickly than usual; upon which his game starts to suffer; upon which he starts to take short cuts to ebb that suffering, which only makes it worse
- If he’s getting shelled or has two awful nights in a row, it gets much less attention in the AHL than in the NHL. Baptism into that situation by slow warmth rather than by fire.
Every kid is different. Every prospects’ mental toughness and cognitive awareness of his own game varies. There is no “technical” rule defining why minor-league grooming helps or is necessary, because every situation is different. There are only anecdotal examples that you don’t necessarily want to give your young still-learning kid a massive load at the NHL level.(Marc-Andre Fleury’s up-and-down-and-up-and-down being one; meanwhile, Luongo and DiPietro both were introduced to NHL work before they were ready to take it on full time)
But it doesn’t really hurt, and I don’t think it’s any crazier than questioning whether your 16-year-old genius kid is truly ready to go off to college early and be thrown into that environment. Mileage may vary; when all things are equal, it sure doesn’t hurt to be conservative with your long-term asset.
(That said, Poulin hasn’t shown any alarming signs yet.)
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this as well
And I would add, that the AHL is an excellent place to work out bad habits before they become permanent holes in your game. For example, Poulin’s scrambling around has been an asset to him thus far, but he needs to work on the rest of his game so that it isn’t the only thing he can do well.
In general an NHL team can’t afford to deal with the inconsistency of a guy when he’s trying to fix his game and make his new technique automatic. NHL shooters are too good, you lose too many games that way – and the poor goalie may never recover.
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I think the NHL is better for his development than playing behind the 6 guys WORSE than Reese
They give up 40+ shots all the time. It see no reason BPT is better for him. He’ll play just as many games but will likely get more worn out in BPT.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
Your can of soup is also smarter and more durable than DP...
Hey, Quebec, STAY THE HELL OUTTA THIS!
by BrassBonanza10 on Feb 5, 2011 2:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Let's be honest.
Most of us here were already assuming that Ricky was not going to be the goalie of the future. This fight and injury doesn’t change much. Sure its a black eye on the organizaion (pun intended) but its really of little significance. The only real problem it raises is that we need another goalie to finish out this season.
by TMS on Feb 4, 2011 4:49 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
EXACTLY, TMS.
Well put. Rick being out for 4 weeks or whatever is not going to have any bearing on anything other than this season.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
So is Mikko coming?
Joel martin signs a 2-way, loaned to Bridgeport
Eddie Dane: How'd you get the fat lip?
Tom Reagan: Old war wound. Acts up around morons.
No
Mikko is playing tonight but just coming off a minor injury so I don’t know. Strang thinks Martin gets the call backing up tomorrow but if mikko gets through hi start tonight in one piece, he’s probably getting the call.
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by David Hanssen on Feb 4, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
Then WTH will they do in BPT?
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know, honestly. They’re already crazy short on skaters, tonight through injuries they only have 11 forwards and 6 defensemen. Kalamazoo has three goalies on their roster right now in Ryan Nie, Riley Gill and Tom Askey. My guess is Nie or Gill gets called up (Nie just returned from a loan spell in Binghampton). Other options include signing Dubeliewicz to a PTO (He wouldn’t have to go through waivers to sign an AHL PTO, but would once he signed an NHL contract), finding some other ECHL goalie to pick up on loan (Dov Grumet-Morris, Joe Fallon). Either way Bridgeport is in a whole mess of trouble roster wise right now, even before Ricky’s Glass Joe act.
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by David Hanssen on Feb 4, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The injuries in this organization this season are UNREAL
This season is going to be even worse than 08-09, and that is just- unbelievable.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, it is worse than 08-09 already. Two years ago, Bridgeport didn’t have the injury issues they have this year. They were relatively healthy and just supplying injury replacements for the Isles. On top of supplying the injury replacements this year, they also have their injury issues with Mikko, Ullstrom, Kohn, Katic, Wotton, Tony Romano, Rakhshani and Hilbert all having missed at least a week a piece at one point thi season. Hilbert hasn’t even dressed yet this year.
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by David Hanssen on Feb 4, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
Other options
There are a few FA goalies in the minors right now, 20-21 year old guys who were never drafted that can be signed like Mark Friesen of Swift Current, Nathan Lieuwen of Kootenay (Who I would go for, but there’s a reason I’m no GM), Lucas Gore of Chilliwack, Shane Owen of Moncton, Evan Mosher of PEI, Alain Valiquette of Sudsbury to name a few. These might eb viable options to bring in for at least a PTO if not an entry level at some point.
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by David Hanssen on Feb 4, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
They might go
With Their equipment manager again, he practiced with the team when Mikko was down and it was just him and Joel Martin.
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OK, short term (Like 1 game) that can work, but with Lawson still 2-3 weeks away, they need someone a bit more long term to help in Bridgeport.
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by David Hanssen on Feb 4, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
Congrats to Martin
He’s been doing well enough in the AHL, it’s his first NHL contract as far as I can tell.
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It is. His 5 games in the AHL this year is one more then he had in his entire career prior to this season. He’s been in the now defunct WCHL and UHL.
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by David Hanssen on Feb 4, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
Okay... I think I'm done with DP for a while...
(I don’t expect anybody else to join me)
If you’d like to join me in my seven day moretorium on Rick DiPietro, please feel free to post your final (for 7 days) thoughts on the subject in this thread… and be done with it.
My final thoughts until next weekend:
Ricky, get some help. Trust your coaches, and level with your teammates. This time while you’re out watch how others play. See how they learn how to cut corners. See how they deal with situations… and how they don’t always have to be the center of attention… and if need be… THE LIGHT FINDS THEM.
That’s all folks!!!
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Bababouy's done with him period
This guy is such a joke. It’s a shame he’s got that asinine contract.
I make a mean peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
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by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Feb 4, 2011 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
Hes not even old enough to buy a beer with those oysters.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah that aint happening for a while though, is it!
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
lol
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
not so much of a nitpick as an accurate technicality
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for your generosity
It has just occurred to me on occasion that that must be part of the culture shock for European and Canadian players.
Im sure, to an extent
But I didnt have any problem drinking at 19-20 and I was just a waitress college student, as opposed to a rich and/or famous kid on a team with lots of guys making millions who are always buying lol.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
Euro culture shock
You just reminded me of a great story from my table-waiting days…
I worked at Friendly’s. For our non-Northeastern compatriots, it’s a chain of family-fare short-order restaurants, which started life as an ice-cream parlor – their desserts are the main draw, really. The group of German tourists who visited that day were intrigued, I guess, but they wanted to start with apps (no problem!) and a beer (slight problem).
When they asked me what was on tap, I had to apologize, but I didn’t get quite past the language barrier, I guess. The man thought for a second and then said, “Oh… it’s still lunch. Just a light beer, then.” No, I explained, feeling quite ridiculous. We don’t serve alcohol AT ALL.
His face at that moment was worth far more than my eventual tip. I could hardly blame the poor fellow.
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by mikb on Feb 4, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
"Oh… it’s still lunch. Just a light beer, then."
Awesome. Ahhh…I love European lunches.
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A nice stout goes well with oysters.
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Yup.
And remember when people thought we had too many defensemen signed?
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 5, 2011 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
It's amazing.
Our goalies and defense are broken. Our forwards don’t work.
Can we get a mulligan on this season?
First my serious comment
I’ve been pulling for RDP to make a full 100% recovery since he first got injured. I still am … It’s not because he has 10 years left on his contract … It is because he’s been 100% committed to bringing us fans back the Stanley Cup. He wanted to be an Islander hoisting the cup, and that is something not any other player in the NHL back then or now has committed themselves to. I just hope he can still backup that promise somehow.
Now, how anyone may feel personally about DP and his long contract is all together a seperate debate.
My serious concern now isn’t his cheek bone. Heck … it’s not going to hurt our chances to make the playoffs. My serious concern IS those knees. The more he compensates on one the more he puts stress on the other. Not to mention the extra stress on the hip.
Here is the big problem. Let’s assume that next season DP gets back on his game … but still needs 2-3 days off between starts for the rest of his career in order to remain “swell free”. Assuming the Isles make the playoffs in the next couple of years… How would that work for him during the playoffs? First off all the extra games … second the frequency of games is every other day. He’d have to play every other game in that case. I guess the KP factor would kick in. Poulin might not only be a reliable back up … DP may have to become the backup permanently. Even if he gets better numbers.
I just wanted to put out that scenario.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Feb 4, 2011 7:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Let’s assume that next season DP gets back on his game … but still needs 2-3 days off between starts for the rest of his career in order to remain "swell free". Assuming the Isles make the playoffs in the next couple of years… How would that work for him during the playoffs? First off all the extra games … second the frequency of games is every other day. He’d have to play every other game in that case. I guess the KP factor would kick in. Poulin might not only be a reliable back up … DP may have to become the backup permanently. Even if he gets better numbers.
I just wanted to put out that scenario.
I honestly have thought this for a while- and I think that of all the possible scenarios in which DiPietro still plays, it is the most likely of them all. And honestly, Id be 100% fine with it. The people who wouldnt be OK with it are those who continue to refuse to alter their expectations and still mentaly demand that DiPietro return to starting or evaporate from existence. Mine expectations were altered a while ago, and I have already come to terms with exactly what you said here.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Managed Expectations
It took a few surgeries for me to accept the fact that DP probably will never be the same.
DP had haters before he even got hurt. I just don’t think you can hate him for committing to the Islanders. The length of the contract was never his idea. He could of said no based on the Isles recent history at that time and chose to wait for UFA after a 5 year deal if he wasn’t committed.
I think once I learned last season that Poulin was tearing it up in the QMJHL that there was a relief valve for our goaltending situation. I just wanted DP to be part of the goaltending solution. I still hope he can play … Even if its as Poulin’s (or another star’s) backup. Can he swallow his pride? The biggest anti-DP montra is that he’s selfish. Which flies in the face of his committment. I tend to route for the Islanders that want to be Islanders. Hope DP can be there to hoist the cup someday.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Feb 4, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
This has been my best case scenario as well
but first let’sjust make the playoffs. If DP is really the go to goaltender, then swelling won’t stop him. I think the swelling needs to be managed for the duration of the season, but the playoffs give you the whole summer to recover. With his competitiveness there’s no way they’d be able to shut him down so he could rest. He’s a hockey player, not a starting pitcher.
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by Hockey1919 on Feb 5, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't forget that Billy
tended to play 40 or so games a year to keep him fresh for the Playoffs.
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by Mark D on Feb 4, 2011 8:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Islanders...
…have successfully and conveniently merged the Sports, Comics, Business, Projections Horoscopes, Page Six (I’m looking at you Wiz!) and Career Obituaries sections of the newspaper of life.
There’s nothing left for us to do but continue embracing the sparkling, pulsating magic that is Islanders Hockey.
Go find yourself an open door.
by The Black Map on Feb 4, 2011 7:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That pretty much covers it
Maybe Classified/Help Wanted ads for goalies? Or is that now permanently replaced by the Craigslist of life?
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I knew I left out a section
But even Craiglist isn’t even applicable…more like freecycle.org at this point.
Go find yourself an open door.
by The Black Map on Feb 4, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly at this point it's not even funny anymore
It’s just sad. You almost feel bad for the guy … almost.
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Light hearted commet
When: Spring of 2011.
Where: Garth Snow’s office
Garth dials the phone leaving it on speaker… and calls Charles Wang.
Garth: Hi Charles! How is it going?
Charles: Garth! Great to hear from you. Did you get my email joke about the Goalie turned GM, the priest and the rabbi?
Garth: Yes, Charles … Ha Ha very funny.
Charles: Ahhhhh c’mon Garth. Have a sense of humor…. So what do I owe the priveldge of this phone call?
Garth: Well. I remember some years back when Mike was GM you asked Mike to get a Sumo wrestler to be a goalie.
Charles: Ha Ha. Yes, you all had lots of fun at my expense for years.
Garth: Well I’ve been thinking. I plan on going to Japan after the draft lottery. I think I’m going to look into your idea.
Charles: Uh Garth?
Garth: Yes?
Charles: Great idea!!!! I knew it!! I knew it!!! I think I’ll join you on the search.
Garth: Well Charles. Here’s the deal. I’m going with Troy Polamalu of the Pittsburgh Steelers. He was watching the game when Johnson cleaned Rick’s clock back in February before he played in the Super Bowl and really felt bad.
Charles: So what does that have to do with us?
Garth: Well, ya see. Troy Polamalu is of American Samoa heritage. He has family back on the islands, so he’s partial to Islanders. He has a cousin he’s never met before that is a sumo wrestler in Japan. He’s going to convince him to play for us.
Charles: So why can’t I come. After all. I write the checks.
Garth: I know I know you do. I just don’t want you to ruin it for us.
Charles: Who me? I’m a perfect businessman. I always get what I want because of the way I conduct business.
Garth: Well ya know that Light House Project thing? Ya kinda blew that. Didn’t ya.
Charles: Garth … You promised to never bring that up again. You’re Fired!!!
::: Scene changes to Charles Wang’s office :::
Charles dials the phone….
Male Voice answers: Hello?
Charles: Hey Rick!! It’s Charles!! How’s the face?
Rick: Face feels much better Charles, thanks for the call.
Charles: So Rick. Look … You’re finished.
Rick: Huh? I have a contract!
Charles: I know I know. Let’s not get all excited about such a petty thing. How’d you like to be the new GM?
Rick: Uh GM? What happened to Garth?
Charles: I fired him because he called you “Glass Jaw DiPietro”. I found that disprepectful and insensitive. So I fired him.
Rick: Oh. OK. Sounds great. Does this mean I can stop rehabbing my damn knees?
Charles: Yes. So pack your bags. We’re going to Japan.
Rick: Japan?
Charles: Yes. We are going goalie shopping.
Rick: Charles?
Charles: Yes?
Rick: I quit. You can keep the remaining $45M of the contract. I’m going to try out for the Mets or the Red Sox.
- – - – -
OK … Poor attempt at being funny… but I needed something to laugh about regarding this whole situation.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Feb 4, 2011 7:59 PM EST reply actions
I thought this was a clear JPinVA post when I started reading...
…but trust us, we are all laughing anyway.
Go find yourself an open door.
by The Black Map on Feb 4, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
I had to look that up being the tender age of 27
But that’s f-in hilarious!
Go find yourself an open door.
by The Black Map on Feb 4, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
LMAO!!
The first time I ever heard of Taro (the phantom Sabre pick) was when I was at an Isle / Sabre game in the old Aud in the late 80s. When I asked a fan who he was, I was told the story of the Punch Imlach late round pick sometime in the 70s because he was fed up with the drafting process over the phone. He picked a Japanese name in the phone book. Made up the pick. LOL! There’s more to it, but I forgot the rest.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Feb 4, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
From Wikipedia
Taro Tsujimoto is an imaginary ice hockey player who was legally drafted by the National Hockey League’s Buffalo Sabres 183rd overall in the 11th round of the 1974 NHL Entry Draft.12
The Sabres’ general manager at the time, Punch Imlach, was reportedly fed up with the slow drafting process via the telephone, a process intended to keep draft picks secret from the rival World Hockey Association. Imlach decided to have some fun at the expense of the league and president of 28 years, Clarence Campbell, and found a common Japanese name in a Buffalo-area phone book.3 Thus, when the 11th round surfaced, Imlach chose to select star center Taro Tsujimoto of the Japanese Hockey League’s Tokyo Katanas,1 “Katanas” being an approximation for “Sabres” in the Japanese language (both referring to types of swords). The NHL made the pick official, and so it was reported by all major media outlets including The Hockey News.12
Imlach did not acknowledge the fake draft pick until weeks later. The NHL would eventually change the pick to an “invalid claim” for its official record-keeping purposes (Campbell not finding it nearly as funny as Imlach), but this was after Tsujimoto’s name had appeared in several NHL publications.12 Tsujimoto is still listed among Sabres’ draft picks in the Sabres media guide.4
Taro quickly became an inside joke for Sabres’ fans and staffers.3 For years after the pick, fans would chant “We Want Taro” when games at the Buffalo Memorial Auditorium became one-sided. In addition, for many years, banners would be hung from the balcony rail stating “Taro Says…” followed by a witty comment against an opponent or player for the opponent.
by rickrays on Feb 4, 2011 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
That's awesome.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, Moulson, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
Brilliant
It’s like the world’s first Rickroll.
Lucky it happened back in ’74, or Milbury would have immediately tried to trade for him.
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by mikb on Feb 4, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Can you imagine what Isles fans would say if Garth did that?
They are STILL bitching about the Rosen pick.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
I know I am!
I support Garth and when I see any viable player undrafted I think at least we got Rosen.
Sarcasm is my permanent font.
Its the anger part that seems silly to me.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 5, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Like I said back in the other thread...
When you’re getting paid obscene money to play a few games between seasons on the DL…
Hey, Quebec, STAY THE HELL OUTTA THIS!
if I were DP....
I’d offer to eat his contract if he retired and the team gave him 5% ownership in return
if Wang sold and the team became successful again, 5% would be worth $15-20M or similar
oh, but of course, he’s owed more than 5% fo the potential value of the franchise?
what a ludicrous contract….
NHL contracts are not negotiable legally... and that sounds like negotiating.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
They could make him an overpaid scout.
That or with his personality they can give him Botta’s old PR job.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
and that is not to just get him to retire
I like the guy. I want him to stick around in the organization. If it comes to it and he needs to retire for his own health and pride then I want the decision to be good for both sides.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
I love the guy too and would like him to stay in the organization.
It’s just that the knee swelling thing and time table bothers me. 4-6wks isn’t like the past 1-2wks knee swelling he has dealt with at earlier times this year. This could be the end, but who knows. He’s fought through multiple surgeries and rehabs before, so only time will tell.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, Moulson, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
That is exactly the key
This could be the end, but who knows. He’s fought through multiple surgeries and rehabs before, so only time will tell.
Only time WILL tell. Not this. Not now. There are Isles fans all over the place who are clamoring for a DECISION- an ANSWER- a RESOLUTION… and the odds are that they are simply not going to get one yet. I wish they wouldnt waste their energy, but you just cant tell people some people that.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
So true. Because of his heart, I wouldn't be surprised if he was one day the first nhl amputee goalie in the nhl. The guy's drive is off the charts. Going to be interesting to see how this plays out.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, Moulson, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
Everyone here is fuckin' hilarious
I love you all.
Go find yourself an open door.
by The Black Map on Feb 4, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
And we loooo........like you. Some of us have commitment problems. lol
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Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, Moulson, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
Some of us may be tied to the Muller/Nabokov lineage
We should recheck our ancestry.com pages to confirm.
Go find yourself an open door.
by The Black Map on Feb 5, 2011 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
lol, just bring back potvin. He's gotta have something left in the tank we could use.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, Moulson, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
Assistant to gm?
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, Moulson, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
A former goalie as an assistant to the GM, a former goalie?
How many does he need?
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 4, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
lol, yeah.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, Moulson, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
exactly :)
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 5, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks captain obvious. lol, just kidding.
We all know the contract was rediculous since it was signed. Hopefully he retires or is forced to retire now from injuries. The last thing he needed was another knee injury, facial fractures aside, and it happened. I believe the cooke leg on leg contact hurt his knee again. All we know is DP is sidelined again, and this could be the big one given the timing sending him out for at least most of the remaining season. Going to be interesting to see this play out. It’s not like he really needs the money though. Already accumulated over $30million in his career, + sponsor money and other money. He’s set for life if he isn’t an idiot with his money.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, Moulson, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
This is very interesting diagnosed with facial fractures and knee swelling. This makes the fight decision by him go from stupid to rediculous.
Facial fractures we know he got them from the fight, but the knee swelling could or could not be from wear. Some think it’s something that is going to happen if he keeps playing from repeat use which is definitely a possibility limiting him to a max ~40gms/yr. I think it could be from the cooke collision with his left knee/leg, take a look for youself:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=551632
It’s clearly evident that not only did dp stick cooke, but there is some cooke leg to DP leg action. Another surgery possible? Who knows, but it isn’t looking good at all given the 4-6wks initial diagnosis. All I know is, this could be the final turn for retirement for him. That is all.
Good luck to Poulin going forward and whover his backup will be(unless we bring in a vet to start).
Either way, gonna be an interesting game next wk vs the pens.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, Moulson, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
Another thing
Rick has had to be on high level anti-inflammatory meds for what? 3 years now. At this rate he’s gonna be a prime candidate for a kidney transplant in a few years.
Goalie Watch 2011!
Koskinen played the full night tonight, aside from the final 1:30 when he got pulled for the extra attacker. by all accounts had his best game in a while. Proof he’s fully ready to go, I imagine he gets the call up tomorrow while Martin starts tomorrow night in Bridgeport against Springfield with an emergency backup.
Fact is with DiPietro’s injury and that Lawson is still 2-4 weeks away from coming back, another depth move needs to be made. I don’t care whether it’s bringing up an ECHLer to Bridgeport on a PTO, signing an overaged guy out of Major Juniors (Any one of the guys I mentioned above) or a vet FA to a PTO (Think Dubie, Legace, maybe a Fred Braithwaite) to help out, just something more needs to be done. Right now there are 3 healthy goalies signed in the whole organization for the next 2-4 weeks baring another injury (Go ahead, blame me if another one happens). Bridgeport’s equipment guy can only be the emergency back up for a game or two, more than that and you’re playing with fire. Something needs to be done short term.
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Koskinen played the full night tonight, aside from the final 1:30 when he got pulled for the extra attacker. by all accounts had his best game in a while. Proof he’s fully ready to go, I imagine he gets the call up tomorrow while Martin starts tomorrow night in Bridgeport against Springfield with an emergency backup.
See thats what I think too (and it may have been what put a bit more of a jump in his game) but on Twitter people are all arguing that this Joel Martin kid is a lock because he got a 2-way. I just dont see it. MAYBE if they dont find someone else, they alternate them a bit?
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 5, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
If Martin were a lock for tomorrow night, I really don’t think the Isles would have sent him down right after signing him to the 2-way. Maybe I’m wrong here, but immediately sending him down after signing him only to recall him less than 24 hours later just doesn’t make sense. My bet is #1, Mikko Koskinen is on the bench tomorrow night.
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by David Hanssen on Feb 5, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
I don't get that
Theres no reason NOT to sign him to a 1 year two way. In case Mikko or Poulin gets hurt, he’s insurance
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I think TMC is talking about (Not putting words in her mouth, just interpreting) whether he’s a lock to dress for the Isles tomorrow night, not why sign him to the deal in general.
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by David Hanssen on Feb 5, 2011 1:38 AM EST up reply actions
correct
Signing makes sense, but pointing to that as the reason he will definitely be the backup for the foreseeable future doesnt add up to me.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 5, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Lets relax. This is nothing new
We might as well come to realize that he will at least get another chance at proving he can put it together for at least next year. I love this team, and I love this guys attitude towards it. Let hope for a miracle. I agree with most of you but we might as well accept it and at least hope for the best.
by themass on Feb 5, 2011 1:02 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
If i had to guess, he will get more than 1 more chance and he will get more than 1 more year
This is gonna take time. But it was gonna take time before the fight, too- 4 weeks off isnt going to change that.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 5, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
Welcome, themass
Thanks for joining!
I think it’s safe to say most are hoping for the best — but you just gotta let out the frustration every once in a while
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Ranger fan weighing in here…….firstly kudos to DP for acknowledging the smoking he got, that was hard to watch because I want to actually see the guy do well. He got tagged pretty good and made no excuses….much respect for that. Next-I have a question about his injury history prior to signing with the Isles……..was he a glass Joe or has he just come across loads of bad luck as a pro? I mean just when you think he’s put it all behind him……wham…his situation has become the most clusterish of cluster-F’s. Finally as hometown fans, what do you guys think about this setback. He obviously has an immovable contract, what do you do?
by earthworm on Feb 5, 2011 1:03 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Answers to your questions.
.was he a glass Joe or has he just come across loads of bad luck as a pro?
All pro, baby!
Finally as hometown fans, what do you guys think about this setback. He obviously has an immovable contract, what do you do?
Uh…read the entire thread for everyone’s opinions and stuff.
But seriously, if DiPietro was healthy and playing well, there would be absolutely no stink made about his contract. Luongo is signed for 12 years and nobody says anything because he’s healthy.
In terms of what to do with the contract, well…you ride it out until the guy is either healthy or retired. No reason in demoting him since we’re already on the hook for the contract and nobody’s going to ask for him in a trade. If he can stand to play a max total of 40 games in a season, he’d be a solid and reliable back-up (though overpaid), but considering he hasn’t played 40 games over the past three seasons, that doesn’t sound like it’s going to happen. Ideally, DP and the team are going to have to take a long, hard look at his future in this organizaton this summer and come to some sort of decision; goalies are fickle creatures, and outside of the sturdy play of Roloson and Poulin, we have not had a steady goalie in over three years. I wish the best for the guy and hope he can return to game shape, it’s just tragic knowing that every time DiPietro goes down, he’s taking the team with him.
by Fabtraption on Feb 5, 2011 1:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed. Just read the opinions worm and you can make a basis of what most think.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, Moulson, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
if DiPietro was healthy and playing well, there would be absolutely no stink made about his contract. Luongo is signed for 12 years and nobody says anything because he’s healthy.
I get what you’re saying, and I don’t confuse my frustration with the contract with anything about DP or his character…but I’d still be in a periodic stink with the contract: I don’t believe in betting long (to age 40!) on butterfly goaltenders. My heart frankly sunk when I heard the news. But I also get that they thought they were doing a good cap thing at a time when the price of #1 goalies appeared to be going up and up and up.
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Ranger fan weighing in here…….firstly kudos to DP for acknowledging the smoking he got, that was hard to watch because I want to actually see the guy do well. He got tagged pretty good and made no excuses….much respect for that.
See, THAT makes sense to me.
I think there are too many Isles that SAY they are mad about him fighting, but what they are REALLY mad about is that he lost so decisively.
Next-I have a question about his injury history prior to signing with the Isles……..was he a glass Joe or has he just come across loads of bad luck as a pro?
Believe it or not, he was fine.
I mean just when you think he’s put it all behind him……wham…his situation has become the most clusterish of cluster-F’s. Finally as hometown fans, what do you guys think about this setback. He obviously has an immovable contract, what do you do?
DiPietro does not have an immovable contract, he has an untradeable contract. But the Isles would never trade him anyway so that really doesnt matter. If he can play, he will play. If he can play less, he will play less. If in time he cant cut it as a backup, he will be in Bridgeport… and if he cant even do that, he will retire. Theres no rush on the BPT thing though- the Isles have the most capspace in the NHL, no reason to move him now. A few years from now, however- its all gonna come down to whether he can play at this level as a starter, tandem, or backup.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 5, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
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