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Goaltender Fights in Islanders History: Billy Smith and some other guys

Not one of the better moments.

The Islanders are off today before resuming practice tomorrow; Dylan Reese was returned on loan to Bridgeport. For other news, you can turn to Bridgeport with a lineup and injury update from Michael Fornabaio.

Meanwhile, last night's signature moment has been talked through upwards and down, with a wide range of opinions. The conversation got people thinking back toward other (usually longer) goalie fights in Islanders history. All of the following clips may be remembered by some of you old-timers -- and I use that term with respect, as my knees, wrist, shoulder and hair color each day hint at what that's all about.

There are surely more Isles goalie fights that are lost to memory and uncaptured by YouTube. So take the following trip down memory lane, add your own memories, and fill in the blanks. Billy Smith wasn't the only fighting goaltender in Islanders history; he was merely the best.

Star-divide

Rick DiPietro vs. Al Montoya (preseason)


From the Nolan era and -- as noticed on the tape -- the Jeremy Colliton Era, Part I. Montoya takes a long time to join festivities, and he clearly doesn't want to fight nor take his mask off. DiPietro looks all too eager. Montoya lands on top of RDP at one point, but clearly DiPietro is the one landing punches, and eager to do this silly thing.

It's enjoyable in a hate-the-Rangers sort of way, but I don't like the imbalance of who wants to fight and who doesn't. Sort of like...

 

...Tommy Salo vs. Dan Cloutier


This did not go well. Cloutier was on Salo like a Belorussian shot from the red line.

Tommy Soderstrom vs. Corey Schwab


Yes, that's a young Martin Brodeur in the screenshot there.

Post-fight footage: Bonuses here include Soderstrom's good sportsmanship despite getting bloodied, Schwab's excellent mullet, and a young Billy Guerin doing an early turn as comedian.


 

Kelly Hrudey vs. John Vanbiesbrouck


This is just one of those Isles-Rags brawls that goes on forever and ever -- Hrudey doesn't even enter the picture until two minutes in.

But the real fun here is Steve Richmond backing waaaaaay far away from Clark Gillies. It's okay, I wouldn't want any part of Gillies either. And poor Billy Smith is on the bench, wishing he could part of the fun. That's alright -- Smith had his fun in his day, like ...

 

Billy Smith vs. Dave Semenko

Not much to this one -- just 17 seconds of footage, but each man got his point across (Semenko: "Don't hit the star who is my meal ticket." Smith: "Tell your star to stop diving and act like a man."


 

Billy Smith vs. Lanny McDonald

Another brief one (15 seconds of footage), but boy does McDonald acquit himself quite well.


 

Billy Smith vs. Bob Kelly

Son, they may call you "Hound dog" but you're being chewed up by a goalie.


 

Billy Smith vs. Grant Mulvey

On a Hawks powerplay, Smith gets so tied up in maintaining his territory he gives up a goal -- and doesn't miss a beat as the brawl ensues. You get the feeling the Hawks were lining up to get a shot at him.


 

Bonus: Duane Sutter vs. Steve Weeks

Well this wasn't an Islanders goalie, but the Rangers' Weeks fights Duane Sutter here. Brother Brent is the first other Isle to step in and make sure no one breaks it up.


 

Well, that's after sifting through YouTube for a while. Got any others floating out there, whether on the web or in your head?

One thing you notice about the Billy Smith ones when you search for them on YouTube -- these names come up again and again. A lot of these guys or teams have a history with the Islanders, so while the incidents look crazy when taken in isolation, you can be sure there is a history of grievances that led up to it. Kind of like Matt Cooke, actually.

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History is right

You’re right about there being lead ups and history behind many of the fights even today, especially with Cooke. Anytime Cooke goes for a hit you never know whether he’s going to take down another NHLer. If Savard’s further testing is any indication, fighting, hitting or getting cheats in on Cooke should become a law on the ice.

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Feb 3, 2011 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

Hell frigging yes.

The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, Moulson, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.

by OzzyFan on Feb 4, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

So Billy Smith’s butt ending of Lindy Ruff’s face doesn’t count as a fight?

It was worth posting my drivel to get that link… That was the Shizzle my HansunFrizzle! - JPinVA

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by David Hanssen on Feb 3, 2011 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

Just move along, nothing more to see here.

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by Dominik on Feb 3, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

Billy was know for his excellent stick work, especially against the Sabres:

It was worth posting my drivel to get that link… That was the Shizzle my HansunFrizzle! - JPinVA

After being fired as head coach, now a "Special Adviser" to Lighthouse Hockey

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by David Hanssen on Feb 3, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

There's no way that card is legit

Because if it was, it would say “Smith – 500 Casualties.”

Lighthouse Hockey: Oddly, we *do* particularly care.

by Dominik on Feb 4, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

well, I can see #499 laying on the ground behind him.

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by mikb on Feb 4, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Before I even got to the first goalie fight...

I went to read Mike’s BPT stuff which is always good… and he (like the guys here) is in tune with what’s worth scrapin’ off the net. I haven’t seen it here yet, but it probably has been. THIS IS WORTH WATCHING
From Fornabaio, credit to DOwn Goes Brown/House of Hockey

okay…back to reading this site..

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by JPinVA on Feb 3, 2011 5:32 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

saw that on Bournes twitter as well

tried to fan shot it yesterday but couldn’t figure out how to imbed the video. Great video. Rec’ so people make sure to watch it

"It's a good thing the Islanders spent the offseason compiling organizational depth on the blueline. Because, yes, they're losing defensemen almost as rapidly as they're losing games."

by ArsenalLI on Feb 3, 2011 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

As a matter of fact

Our resident FanShot junkies posted it the other day.

And oh yes, I always like Fornabaio’s stuff. Unheralded good stuff.

Lighthouse Hockey: Oddly, we *do* particularly care.

by Dominik on Feb 3, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

love Billy....

Loved the videos. My favourite Billy Smith fight was actually not a fight he was in, but a group fight against Washinton. An Isles skater (forget who) was tangled up with a Washington player. The Caps guy was bent over on a 90 degree angle, with the Isles player above and their arms locked…the cap player couldn’t protect his face, but the Isles player couldn’t hit him…If my memory is correct, Billy skated a little out of his crease, bent over and started tickling the caps players nose with the with extra raw hide thread on his catching mit….I was LMAO when out of no wear Scott Stevens comes flying from the blue line and levels Billy…I was screaming blooding murder. Smith’s mask went flying, equipement a mess, the whole nine yards… but within a moment….Billy gets up, has a shit-eating grin on his face…the man loved every minute of it, enjoyed getting Stevens all worked up.

by CanadianIsleslifer on Feb 3, 2011 5:36 PM EST reply actions  

and fighting Semenko

few players, let alone goal tenders would have ever done that

by CanadianIsleslifer on Feb 3, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

he didn't have much choice

Cement just winds up and tags him in the head. His only other choice is to just fall down.

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by mikb on Feb 4, 2011 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s kind of scary to think Stevens was much more of a loose cannon before he ever got to New Jersey.

Lighthouse Hockey: Oddly, we *do* particularly care.

by Dominik on Feb 3, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Karma

Would have been Brent Johnson continuing to punch DiPietro while he was on the ice last night the way DiPietro did to Montoya in the first video. Class move by Johnson, though.

by Dorfer on Feb 3, 2011 6:20 PM EST reply actions  

DP vs Montoya

The ice was full of vinegar and water that day…
That was a set up from the get go… it was the first pre-season game vs the rangers for Simon after THE INCIDENT. Everybody knew they were gonna go… and everybody knew it would be ugly for assHoleWig… so EVERY ranger jumped on Simon… funny… I don’t think there was a suspension coming from that game… not a one.
Then “SOMEBODY” must have thought that Rick DiPietro killed his father.

DiPietro was just tired of him SAYING THAT…

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by JPinVA on Feb 3, 2011 8:09 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

what a game, great fight

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Feb 3, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

dam Power Outage

Of course I miss the Goalie fight.

I also love that Staal didn’t get a suspension. Wheel of Justice spin spin spin

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by Mark D on Feb 3, 2011 9:24 PM EST reply actions  

Who was the play by play announcer for the DP Montoya fight

Sounds like someone who has boxing …maybe it’s Albert? Anyone know? I like him much better than Rose

by JoRiverside on Feb 3, 2011 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks Dom! I watched every fight you posted...

…except the Salo-Cloutier fight. My memories are still way too fresh, it would be like pouring lime juice in my eyeballs…

Poulin’s a big kid, and Koskinen is a MONSTER…let’s hope we don’t get Salo’d ever again!
/tries to click Salo fight, mouse-hand shakes, clicks every Battlin’ Billy fight one mo time.

"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)

by Bryan2112 on Feb 4, 2011 10:23 AM EST reply actions  

Ha

Yeah, I don’t much enjoy that one either. I really don’t like Cloutier, from just about every stop in his career (not just the Rangers).

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by Dominik on Feb 4, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Well then this is for you, Dom

It was worth posting my drivel to get that link… That was the Shizzle my HansunFrizzle! - JPinVA

After being fired as head coach, now a "Special Adviser" to Lighthouse Hockey

Hockey Wilderness - Because misery loves company.

by David Hanssen on Feb 4, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And amazingly, the entire puck crossed the goal line!

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by mikb on Feb 4, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

does anyone remember.....

Smitty vs Tiger Williams?
I can’t remember a particular fight, but I just remember bad blood between them.

Native LI'er living in the land of Black & Gold.

by JW1970 on Feb 4, 2011 5:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Look at Smith wave off the other Isle skater in the Lanny fight

Guy coming in to protect him, Billy waves him away..awesome. Can’t tell who the skater is, h. Watch the isles come to his defense in the Mulvey fight. Bammer , Nystrom, Bourne, think that is Pat Price charging in and getting dragged dwn. Good times for this young Isles fan

by 7:11_OT on Feb 5, 2011 10:05 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Actually, that may be #3 Jean Potvin or Tomas Jonsson, Langevin and Price never played together.

by 7:11_OT on Feb 5, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

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