Islanders 4, Thrashers 1: His name is Kyle, and he is back
by Dominik on Feb 1, 2011 10:28 PM EST
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PrintNo one was a minus except for the Blake Comeau - Josh Bailey - Jeremy Colliton line (more on them later). Kevin Poulin made key saves early, allowing the Isles to build a lead. Travis Hamonic notched his first NHL goal on a firm, low shot from the point. And Kyle Okposo got his first two goals of the season (one the eventual game-winner), as he continued to fly with Michael Grabner and Frans Nielsen.
Not a bad way to come out of the break.
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On the whole, the Thrashers did not prove the best of opponents, disappointing their home fans with a tepid effort and officially continuing their pre-All-Star slump. Even the Thrashers' lone goal came from ex-Isle Freddy Meyer. While the Isles conceded the first goal for the 12th time in 13 games, Hamonic's goal early in the second tied it, and a great five-minute flurry at the end of that frame gave the Isles a lead and an insurance goal they'd have no problem protecting.
Game Highlights
Notes from the Winner's Circle
- Probably the only "blemish" was the play of the third line, which still needs sorting out, or at least more time while the top two lines are running hot. But the minus-1 ascribed to Comeau and Bailey wasn't a terribly meaningful one, as Meyer's goal was a fluke carom from his foot and Hamonic's blade from behind the net. Bailey had zero shots, Comeau had two, Colliton one. (The scoresheet also has Comeau having four attempts blocked, while Bailey had two.)
- Capuano's shake-up answer for that line was to drop Rob Schremp to the fourth line while elevating Colliton. Zenon Konopka took the faceoffs, but Schremp generally toiled in the center's lane in both zones (when they made it to the offensive zone). I can't say either combo looked any worse than their previous incarnations -- they might have even looked better -- but it's clear the Islanders have two threatening lines now and two lines that are still keeping Capuano probing.
- Overall, Capuano generally rolled four lines -- TOI was still staggered, but the 4th liners each got just short of 12 minutes. That's a luxury to some extent afforded by having the lead, and one that's probably important since tomorrow is another back-to-back in Pittsburgh.
- Kyle Okposo. Kyle Okposo! He looked pretty great, even before the two goals. You can see him slowly getting it back each game. Tonight's goals came on a rebound created by John Tavares and Michael Grabner (nothing special) and a great, speedy 2-on-1 in which Okposo smoothly converted an outstanding feed from Grabner. Okposo had the wheels going. Almost crazy to see someone keep up with Grabner on a 2-on-1.
- P.A. Parenteau's goal, the third, was the dagger. Just 23 seconds after Okposo's first goal, the Isles picked up one of those gimme delay of game penalties. One minute after that KO goal, PAP moved in from his post on the half-boards, used some jazz hands to pull the puck back and forth, then whip a shot through a screen and inside the near post next to Ondrej Pavelec. The Islanders continued to pour it on for the period's final minutes, and the game didn't seem a bit in doubt by the second intermission.
- Otherwise not a noisy night for the top line, although they set up Matt Moulson multiple times, but Atlanta was pretty good at blanketing him in front of the net.
- Fun stat-i-ness of the night: The Isles outshot Atlanta 31-25 at even strength (33-26 overall), but the only three Thrashers with ugly Corsi's were ex-Isles Meyer (-13) and Brent Sopel (-11), and Rich Peverley (-13). On the Isles' side, only Konopka (-12) and Schremp (-13) were in that territory.
- Cheers to Kevin Poulin for his third NHL win, sporting a .929 save percentage through eight games.
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FIG Winner: In an unprecedented display of shamanship, vrwc was our FIG (First Islanders Goal pick) winner for the second game in a row. He'll be taking your bets for Vegas at the end of this month.
Penguins were at the Garden tonight (game went to a shootout, so someone won the coin flip). Isles will meet them in Pittsburgh tomorrow night, where we'll do this thing again.
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Congrats also to KO!
Who apparently got to his 100th point tonight according to Eric HornicK!
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
This game was so enjoyable
that I hated to see it end!
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
Easy there. These games mean nothing. No pressure once you’re out of the playoff race. Not exactly the 1980 cup finals.
Not 1980, but still hockey
So why not enjoy it?
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by Dominik on Feb 1, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Enjoying a hockey win is desperation?
Heh, now I really don’t follow. As you said they’re long since out of the playoff race. It’s a long season, people who watched the game tend to celebrate victories — they’re few and far enough between — so…I mean a person can celebrate an easy win without pretending long-term problems have all been solved. But okay, to each his/her own.
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Hey Nineteen
Oh we got nothin’ in common
Oh we can’t talk at all…
We’re not desperate. We’re happy. Our favorite hockey team won. Corsendonk all around!
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by mikb on Feb 2, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No, champagne doesn’t get drank over this. We should have higher standards than a meaningless win in Feb when we’ve been outta the race 4 ever. Come on folks, get some dignity.
Right, you win
I hereby pledge not to enjoy hockey games until the Islanders have won a playoff series. Shuttin’ down the studio.
"Dignity" 1, Entertainment 0
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Hey, I have dignity!
And you’re just a big doody head, so neener neener infinity+1 NO TAKEBACKS!
(sheeeesh)
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I have a "clue" thanks.
For the record: you dont know any more about hockey than I do, you have no better of a vantage point than I do, you are no bigger of a fan than I am, and you cannot possibly want to see this team well MORE than I do. At best, and giving you all possible benefit of the doubt, we are equals. Please remember these things when you lament about how I (or anyone else around here) is clueless and you imagine that you have some kind of insight that none of us can understand- because you are mistaken.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 2, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Sad for you
It is precisely this kind of thinking that leads to the fans of every team, save one, ending each season disappointed, playoffs or no playoffs.
Realist. Don’t worry, be happy…in almost LAST PLACE! I can certainly see why so many luv this. sarcasm off.
by 19! on Feb 2, 2011 3:03 AM EST up reply actions
pssst
I think you want to be at that “other” site. They pass around the Haterade like it was free. You’ll like it there. For example, here’s a lovely conversation starter:
MANAGEMENT DOES NOT LIKE WINNING!
..because NYI isn’t near the bottom of the league? OK. Sunshine and roses – whatever floats your boat..
by 19! on Feb 2, 2011 7:40 AM EST up reply actions
Theres a comments section in which you would happen to fit in PERFECTLY. Youve been there, 19...you know where it is lol.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 2, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
If you can't enjoy a win for its own sake
you’re taking hockey way too seriously.
by ilopan on Feb 2, 2011 9:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This state of mind leads to what, exactly?
If youre not allowed to enjoy ANYHTING once your team is out of it, then you should have forgotten this team existed back in december when they went 1 in 21.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 2, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
No pressure for us...
but they put up a good effort against a team that is fighting for a playoff spot… and has been resting for 4 days. It is also just fun to watch on a game to game basis…. especially for those of us who’ve been watching for so long with almost no hope at all.
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Atlanta blows. My high school team could beat them. Where are NYI in the standings? Yet fools get excited over tonight? OK.
LOL
by 19! on Feb 2, 2011 1:51 AM EST up reply actions
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by Hockey1919 on Feb 2, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Now youre breaking out the "fools" comments?
If its going to be post after post of things like that, you will quickly show yourself to not be worth the time or effort to even engage in discussion. LHH dont take right kindly to self-righteous bullshit, pardner.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 2, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
What's our % to make the playoffs?
Go find yourself an open door.
by The Black Map on Feb 2, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Great pic beav, just in the future can you put a title on it so people with slow computers (cough, mikb, cough) can collapse them?
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by David Hanssen on Feb 2, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Yes
When there is a title/subject line, people can click on it and collapse that comment so that the pic isn’t trying to load.
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I thought that was Gremlins...are they of the same Phylum?
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That would be a yes.
One wants food the other is starved for attention.
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Okposo
I’m not sure what a lot of fans see in KO. “Pretty great”? I didn’t see it. I saw the same thing I’ve always seen with him. Non-stop effort, heart, determination, etc., but not really all that effective. He hasn’t yet lived up to his potential, which I concede is quite a lot. I see him trying really hard but not yet taking it to the next level. Glad he got the 2 goals, of course, and I hope he develops into the kind of player we all hope he can be but I just don’t see it yet.
6 GAMES into a return from a serious injury..
This is the first time he’s had an opportunity to play with guys on his level… and that being a level of maturity consistent with an NHL player. I think this will be a pretty good second half for Kyle. You have to remember that for the most part Kyle was making his own opportunities (space) the past two years. Now he’ll not only be helped in that regard, but he’s also given the luxury of not being the defensive FOCUS of other teams.
This is another reason why I think a solid two-way RW with more offensive upside (RHETT) will help Josh and Blake create a three line pressure cooker next year… and if Hunter can come back with any jump we might get scoring from four lines… wouldn’t that be AWESOME.
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I think this will be a pretty good second half for Kyle.
What's the standard of "effectiveness" then?
If he’s non-stop effort, determination and driving of play, then that’s more than most of the Isles other forwards over the past several years can say.
I’m not sure what his production pace should be; he’s still 22. Players can control how much effort they deliver, and talent plus effort leads to scoring chances — of which only the truly elite players can count on finishing on a regular basis. The rest count on the percentages.
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KO Effectiveness
All I can say is he reminds me of Anthony Mason when he was on the Knicks. Mason had and showed a lot of skill but none of his moves really was that effective in helping the Knicks. He would do a lot of dribbling and ball fakes but end up just as far from the basket with the same defender between him and the hoop.
Sure, he’s only 22. As I said above, I recognize his skill [and see it in games] and his potential but as of yet he hasn’t reached it, in my opinion and the skill just hasn’t made much of an impact. I guess I’m saying I don’t think his effort and talent has led to as many scoring chances as his praise might suggest.
I theorized last year that he probably logged too many minutes, reducing his overall effectiveness. His shooting percentage was almost flukishly low (so expect that to increase) and he was the victim of some serious tough luck (i.e. Biron’s worst on-ice moments) to make for an ugly plus/minus. His one-on-one missed moves (the failed toe-drag is one) probably stand out more than they should.
Generally, when he’s on the ice he’s one of the Isles’ best players. (Hardly HOF, but in relative terms you take the best you have.) I guess I don’t know what overpraise you’re referring to specifically (every fan carries their own level of hype), but certainly as a cog on their best line the last few games, and after scoring two goals tonight, he deserves the headline.
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Headline, Yes
But between “pretty great” and “hardly HOF,” I think the latter is more appropriate. Relatively speaking, you are right [but then again the bar is low].
To be clear, I think he can be great [and expect him to get there] but he just isn’t great yet.
You remind me of Isles27 on HockeyIndendent
If he hasn’t reached his potential then that’s a great thing and I agree…He’s gonna be a 30goal guy at least but he will bring allot more to the table
by KO21 on Feb 2, 2011 12:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Okay
Relative terms here being: Guy who was on the shelf all year, who had visible rust in his first few games back, who has been moving well and creating chances with Grabner and Nielsen, including an impressive and converted 2-on-1 tonight.
I’d actually put “pretty great” as just standard praise for a two-goal game in those circumstances and not a testament to where he is now (or even will be) as a player. But it’s all semantics in a post-game reaction thread, really. Aside from tonight, I see him as a good hockey player who does many things right and well, even if he never hits 30 in a single season.
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Can we agree he had a decent night last night?
He only scored twice, so I was disapponted he didn’t score a hat trick. He made a nice power move to the net which last season he would have taken wide, but he didn’t score so the play wasn’t particularly helpful. He has shown determination and heart, but every player on this team has been so consistent that it isn’t even worth mentioning. He’s already out of his teens and hasn’t made it to even one All-Star game and he wears an A, which is a big step below wearing the C. He has played only a hlaf dozen games this year, but we need him to play all 82 so he seems somewhat fragile. He isn’t going to reach 15 goals this season like Peter Forsberg did in his rookie season at the same age, so he may become a servicable forward on a bubble team or a complete bust.
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Also in his defense
after several early failed toe-drags, I don’t remember any tonight. Definitely more of a head down get to the net bull rush instead. Huge fan of that! Wonder if it was addressed or just coincidentally not present.
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If thats the case then he is becoming the POWER forward we were hoping for
And he wanted to be and was projected to be
by KO21 on Feb 2, 2011 12:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The toe-drag thing
To me that’s a similar process to what Tavares is going through now. Every player moves up to the next level and has to relearn what works and what they can no longer get away with.
Well not every player. Some, like Mike Comrie, don’t bother to adjust.
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The Toe Drag Worked for his OT Game winner last yr
He just can’t do it everytime like Comrie
by KO21 on Feb 2, 2011 12:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
His success rate is limited for that though
I think actually the reason that worked (because now that he’s back, you’ll notice that it is his commercial), he gets his stick held a bit and shoots from a strange angle close to his body. Not exactly the toe-drag, but close. The more moves you have in your arsenal, the more they are likely to work just on the element of surprise. Just can’t be the one trick pony.
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Speaking of the "toe drag"...
how about that little tuck pass by Grabner. He shows us something exciting every game. That was one of the better two-on-one’s by the Isles in a while. Ovechkin pulled off a shot/goal against us this year with a move like that… maybe some of that magic did rub off on Grabs at the ASG.
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by JPinVA on Feb 2, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It was subtle, yet fantastic
And really that’s why I liked Okposo’s speed on the goal. If KO isn’t on his horse like that, then Grabner has no one to pass to quite that sneakily, and the D-man isn’t as likely to allow that to slip right by his feet as he’s in panic mode.
I love the milliseconds within plays like that, as you start to realize who’s there, what’s possible, what’s about to happen, what’s OH IT’S HAPPENING. Fun stuff.
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He really is blossoming!
He is starting ti give himself chances by gaining space within a 15 foot speed window now, and is creating space by shielding the puck with his body well. Outstanding…this guy’s gonna be good for a while.
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
If thats the case then he is becoming the POWER forward we were hoping for
And he wanted to be and was projected to be
by KO21 on Feb 2, 2011 12:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's all about expectations
I often watch KO and have the same feelings you have. Hustle, determination but he just doesn’t finish enough! However, at the end of last season i was surprised to see he had nearly 20 goals and over 50 points. That didn’t convince me though so I thought about it more and have come to a conclusion: I’ve always expected him to be a superstar! I expect him to be scoring every game. Part of this can be blamed on the marketing of the Isles but I’m at fault as well for not being realistic.
While watching him play I fail to remember he is a 22yr old 2nd year NHL player.
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by NYI_22 on Feb 2, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
02/01/11 @ ATL +/-
+ Real (well almost) hockey again.. Hooray Hockey!
+ Kyle Okposo… Welcome back Kyle. I’m glad Quinn needed Eric Hornick to tell him that Kyle reached 100 points. Just sayin’.
+ + travis Hamonic for FINALLY putting in his first NHL goal. Hopefully there will be many more… and hopefully most of them will look better than that one. PS when you get a chance to take out a guy like Freddy Meyer… do it.. because if you don’t stupid deflecton goals happen that ruin shutouts… in the first period.
++ Kevin Poulin… quietly putting up the best NYI goaltending numbers. He had a little help from the metallic fingers of fate, but he was sharp. I also enjoy watching him slide around (NOT OVER SLIDE) from post to post, even when he doesn’t necessarily have to… he just always seems to be prepared to get to the next junction. I think we are really getting a treat, and we are treating is as something ordinary… maybe because we’ve been so spoiled with our #1 overall’s spectacularness. I think I just made myself throw up a little.
- The thrashers effort. Man, it looked like they had the flu except for th esecond half of the first period. I don’t care because the worst they are the sooner they move, and the sooner they move that mean one less city putting pressure on teh NHL to move the Islanders to their city. Looks like strike two for Atlanta really soon… and I don’t think anybody will be as monumentally business STUPID as Gary Bettman to try it a third time.
- Kyle was the second Islander draft pick to reach 100 points… not a peep out of Howie for either accomplishment… not that I particularly care.
+ Michael Grabner… awesome feed on Kyle’s second. That line is going to prove to be Key next year… and this Combo will probably give Frans the OFFENSIVE showcase he’ll need to get some recognition around hte league.
+ + the whole “D”… even you Dylan Reese… but I will say that when ATL did sustain pressure there was one number I saw pretty consistently. I won’t give it away, but it rhymes with SHORTY BLUE.
- Bad officiating night. Not completely horrible… but the thrashers lazy defense was not penalized once. There were at least three stick to the midsection interferences that I could have called… a really glaring one stopped frans from getting an excellent chance in the first. Also… why is it when Parenteau gets pushed into a goalie he gets an interference call… but when other teams randomly skate into our goalie while he’s in the crease nobody even notices… maybe I’m paranoid… or maybe my shadow IS FOLLOWING ME!
+ Dean recalling his first Islander goal… ah the memories… If I remember Dean (it was a while ago) he played the Meyer did for us late last year. Which makes me wonder if he’d have liked to have Freddy as a 7-8 guy rather than Mottau or Eaton. He is definitely better than shorty blue.
- – - Tonight was the first time I got to see Kennedy and the insipid oil for cancer patient propaganda BS being allowed to air on MSG. I know this is no place for a political forum…. but what next… is Danny Glover gonna get his own special on MSG HD to show how Hugo gives away generic drugs to orphans in Harlem. I’m so glad I canceled my subscription to Nooseday…
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by Dominik on Feb 1, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Frans and JT are next...
To think, I could have been done six games into the season instead of having to update that damn post seven or eight times for my own enjoyment. Thanks Kyle! Next time get injured on your own time!
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by JPinVA on Feb 2, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+ to Brent Sopel, for being so bad. A nice glove away, perfect screen and a nice way to challenge Grabner instead of watching KO.
+ Matt Moulson for being in front of the net and drawing the defender that deflected Hamonic’s goal. Go tot he net, bring a defender, create traffic see red light go on.
+ Defense getting in on the offense. In a recent thread and I apologize for not giving credit where it is due, it was mentioned the Islanders defense generat NO offense. Well Hamonic getting a goal and Hillen practically being in the crease to set up KOs first.
+ Howie checking his “honeydew” list in the post game show. The text just couldn’t wait.
+ Grabner for becoming a set up man. His assist totals have really improved of late, now that opponents are aware of his scoring ability his ability to generate offense isn’t being shutdown, but re-distributed. I did agree with taking away his first assist though, that point would have been too Gretzky.
+ to the posts. Great eye by Poulin to let the posts do their job in another flat first period. Either one could have been a game changer, usually it is the Islanders that the posts block shots against.
- the invisble third line. Can’t have all three lines going at once I guess, but this may just take a couple more games to develop some chemistry as Bailey becomes a center once again.
+ Martinek and Martin for taking pucks to the face. Just because that’s what hockey players do.
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The posts are likely from 2 reasons
One is that Atlanta is struggling and is trying to get too exact (like we were during the streak). The other is when a goalie like KP is doing a great job covering the angles it forces the opposition take shots closer to the posts in general (as there is nothing else to shoot at).
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
I'll give Poulin the credit
If all you have left to shoot at is posts, then that’s what you hit.
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That oil commercial...
… really disgusts me. I don’t care if Mother Teresa is the one behind it, let alone Hugo Chavez. It’s like saying we’re beggars, totally hopeless. And don’t forget to thank your White Knight! I’ll have to mute it every time it’s on, along with the Sylvan Learning Center scare-o-rama.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Feb 2, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
I hear you
but on the other hand, is it so bad to acknowledge that we could use a helping hand now and again? No man (or nation) is an island.
Japan is an island and a nation.
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Japan is LOTS of islands
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 2, 2011 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
Australia!
It’s an island and a nation and a freakin’ continent. It’s the Chuck Norris of landmasses.
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by mikb on Feb 2, 2011 6:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
australia is the chuck hogan of land masses
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paul hogan, why did I type chuck?
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okay japan is a nation of islands
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Sure.
But that’s not the point of the commercial. It’s a big sweaty facial.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Feb 2, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
If it was from Mother teresa it would have been worse...
Sorry… Big Hitchens fan. You can put Hugo, Teresa and Henry Kissinger in the same circle of that place I don’t believe in… with Sean Avery(to make it hockey relevant).
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Suddenly
I’m reminded of the conversations I have with Mrs. Lighthouse.
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How do i pick first islander goal?
Travis and A-mac are becoming my two favorite players.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Feb 1, 2011 11:50 PM EST reply actions
When you see a thread with "FIG" in the subject
Reply to that one with your player and goal time (out of 60 minutes. So 21:45 is 1:45 of the 2nd.).
People usually leave them either in the morning preview thread or the game thread.
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Fun game
As a fan of this team you have to take the little things- this was a fun game to see and dream of the possibilities.
Thanks Dom!
Great website. I’m so happy to have found it.
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Thanks, and you're welcome!
Thanks for joining. Glad you’re on board and finding your way around.
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One big question I had was,
if schremp is willing to play rw, why would you have colliton play in a 3rd line rw scoring role when schremp is a lot more offensively capable and playing rw for the 3rd line? I know, shake things up, but putting schremp on the 4th line isn’t a smart move. He’s not fast and is at average best defensively. I would have preferred an ahl guy brought up to play 4th line if we really are going to kick schremp off the 3rd line and move colliton up. Actually come to think of it, bring rakh back and throw him in 3rd line rw if we actually want an offensive forward on bailey’s rw rather then a defensive forward that doesn’t help bailey game much, or at all.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, Moulson, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
right now Schremp is playing for a 2011-12 contract.
…and he’s up against Konopka, not Rakhshani. I don’t know about anybody else, but I don’t want to see an out of position Rob Schremp next year. I either want him to show he can create a solid/productive fourth line with Martin and Hunter, or earn back his third line center spot from Bailey.
Bailey has a HUGE advantage because the Isles invested first round pick in him… RSH was scraped off the heap… and he can go back on the heap with little consolation… as a matter of fact it was a great pick up, even if it was just for these two years.
I personally think they should retain RSH through his indetured servitude, because unlike Konopka he CAN play an offensively capable second or third line center in case of injury… not that those ever happen.
Also… was it me, or was he basically playing a center’s role in the defensive zone anyway. I don’t mind him on the fourth line, and except for on the dot he’s a much better player than Zeke. That line had a little offensive presense tonight. More than Martin and Zeke have had with any other third all year. Replace Zeke with Colliton (RW) and stick Rhett in that third line RW slot and I think we have more offensive and two-way balance than we;ve had in a decade.
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I actually thought the 4th line looked better (offensively)
than the 3rd tonight. They did get to running around in the D zone, and line 3 was more stable there, but they were pretty invisible tonight…I thought RSH created some decent chances tonight.
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Agreed, 3rd line looked confused or lost most of the time out there and the 4th line had a few of bright spots.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, Moulson, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
I like that idea. RSH playing for a 4th line center role. If he was on our 4th line(as a center), we could have one of the most productive 4th lines in the nhl, and a quality depth center for the top 9.
I like that idea a lot and never even thought about it. Great idea.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, Moulson, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
Awesome News!
Staal should be suspended for tomorrow’s game!
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Sean Avery must be teaching at the New School now.
Our next guest is acclaimed broadway actor and student of the world renowned Sean Avery…Brandon Proust. Brandon is seen here in the death scene from Hamlet…
You know the next time they play Cooke is gonna try to remove one of the Proust family jewels…. The never ending circle of douchebaggery… It’s just too bad that Staal had to get sucked into it.
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“Never ending circle of douchebaggery” is exactly what that is. Love that Proust takes that running charge at the pack, Staal takes exception (and goes too far, but…), and Proust gets rewarded for doing a flop.
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I'll take it
Down their top 3 centers for the game with our history on back to backs. Definitely a bit of a dive, but Staal did follow him and go after him. Pretty easy to make it look bad if you do that.
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Unless the league initiates the Penguins Clause
Speaking of which, was Hunter’s head-hit ejection rescinded from earlier this year? I doubt it.
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you'd have to check...
… the cocktail napkin that Colin uses to keep such records.
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That would have to be pretty quick
it is supposed to be an automatic miss the next game pending a review. I think it would look worse for the league to actually be that preferential fast about it.
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Oh yeah, I don’t seriously think there’s any way they’d rescind it. They’d probably only do it in a case not in referee judgment, but in referee eyes/replay, where the ref completely saw the wrong thing.
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Does everyone agree
that it was a dive? I watched it a few times now, and the way his head snaps, I find it hard to believe that he was faking anything at that moment. I could be wrong of course…
I don't think it was a dive.
He did get punched in the face. Prust just went with the blow ‘cause he can’t stand and fight with the likes of Staal.
As an Isles fan I appreciate the whole thing immensely. I just hate the f-ing Penguins.
by Jones79 on Feb 2, 2011 6:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dive no
But I thought it looked “embellished”. I’m sure it wasn’t pleasant, but I doubt it did any real damage.
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by Keith Quinn on Feb 2, 2011 7:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
i think it was a complete dive
if you look at the way he falls, he throws his head and boy in the complete opposite direction of the punch…..back and to the left…….back and to the left………
I think anyone who thinks it is a dive should
let someone punch them square on the chin. :)
When someone hits you unexpectedly and your head snaps from side to side the last thing going through your mind is “if I collapse he will get a major or a match”. Watching it in slo-mo is deceiving, at full speed you see how fast his head snaps back. As Keith says, he may have embellished by staying down longer that needed. I give him the benefit of the doubt though since I think he may have been out on his feet for a split second.
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by NYI_22 on Feb 2, 2011 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed.
There is a major “off” switch that connects the jaw to the brain. Staying down is the right thing to do since a KO is technically a concussion.
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Obvious dive
since his head turned and he fell to his right…after getting punched on the right side of his face. I’m no astronaut, but usually if someone punches you one way, you fall the other.
Actually watching it , his head snaps in the direction he is punched and then he falls forward, which is the way most semi-conscious people fall. I may not be an astonaut, but I have worked with them.
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by NYI_22 on Feb 2, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I was thinking more embellishment than dive
It was a real punch, there just seemed like a lot of extra theatrics for someone who’s accustomed to being punched, if I’m not mistaken.
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Gloved Punch Vs. Bare Knuckle
I’m getting old, so it’s been a while since I’ve been punched in the face…probably not as long as it should be, but that’s not anybody’s business! I digress!
Anyway, sometimes that “gloved punch” is more like getting hit with a sandbag as opposed to getting hit with a small rock. There is more surface area, and may actually be more concussion inducing than an actual bare knuckle punch that is more localized to a particular spot.
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I could buy that
And to be honest, I’ve no business questioning a non-Avery on how his cranium receives an unexpected punch.
I do think Prust’s move that pissed off Staal would’ve pissed me off too.
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That's why
the “instigator” rule should be applied to plays like that. I honestly (if I was 60lbs heavier and in the NHL) would have cross-checked him into his bench. To me, that was one of those “blindside hit” rules because the Penguin player was engaged with another player in a defenseless position at the time. I’m not even sure that he shouldn’t have moved him off the puck, but I question the amount of force, and the fact that I think, he took 2+ strides to get there. This of course makes all of those rules subjective judgement calls, but that I guess is why I don’t like blanket policies. Now, I’ll bet also, that if Prust hits him and he hits his head on the ice or tears a knee ligament because he was already down, Prust is suspended for 2+ games. Stupid freaking wheel.
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Clarification
the "instigator" rule should be applied to plays like that
Read this as instigator applied to Prust for actually instigating the whole scenario.
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That was my issue as well
. To me, that was one of those "blindside hit" rules because the Penguin player was engaged with another player in a defenseless position at the time. I’m not even sure that he shouldn’t have moved him off the puck, but I question the amount of force, and the fact that I think, he took 2+ strides to get there.
It was just so damn predatory. It reminded me of the talentless kid who has no idea how to play or skate, but when he sees two actual players tied up in a puck battle, he thinks, “Oooh, I can leave a mark here! I’ll take three strides and just rock his world — and then taunt him by saying he should keep his head up.”
I’m projecting, but that general behavior is a source of a lot of the avoidable “non-sporting” violence controversies we see. Third-man-in hits to me are worse than third-man-in on fights.
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It does not ring a bell
But I guess it IS possible…
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by Keith Quinn on Feb 2, 2011 7:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nah, they're just first offenders...
… for the billionth time. First offenders never get penalized, so it doesn’t go on their record. Which means, when they strike again… they’re first offenders. And the circle jerk of life continues.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Feb 2, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good for us, but...
Prust faked that. Staal gave him a little love tap. Does it surprise anyone that Kennedy was involved and Cooke was also on the ice?
I missed Hamonic's goal last night
How about that pass by JT?!?! Eluded two defenders and picked him up cross-ice. That was what I like to call BIG TIME.
Crazy win
Nothing like those wins where you don’t want the game to end, just like TMC said above. Grabner pass to KO was SICK. Poulin’s play was RAD. I’m talking in 90’s cliches just to express how awesome that game was.
Plus, I watched it on my new HDTV (I finally bit the bullet and bought one) and wow hockey looks good on it. (Looking forward to seeing The Mustache in HD)
If KO can look that good on a regular basis…..with JT getting his points (2A)…..Grabs playing like that (I literally waited until he came on the ice and only focused on him, hoping for breakaways)……HamMac solid play…..dare I say, this is a FUN team to watch!
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by CharlieIsles on Feb 2, 2011 8:46 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Poulin is the #1 Goalie
Sorry DP lovers….Poulin simply is a better goalie right now, and if the Isles were in the playoff race, he would (or should) be the starter most nights. He gives the Isles a better chance of winning every night than DP.
The Isles played so well last night that even Reese looked pretty solid!
Keep it up.
Sorry DP lovers….Poulin simply is a better goalie right now, and if the Isles were in the playoff race, he would (or should) be the starter most nights. He gives the Isles a better chance of winning every night than DP.
I love them both. If I had my way, the two of them will play together for the next decade. Ive been hoping for that since 2008.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 2, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
DP another decade??
Sorry TMC, I don’t think DP has another decade left in him. I think he has a few years left in him at best before injuries take its toll and wear him out.. Three years tops before he has to shut it down.
by Russel Ginart on Feb 2, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
I dont know about that.
I think he might very well have another decade in him- or at least a good part of it- as a backup to a goalie like Poulin.
Rick might be GREAT if he is playing 30 games a season
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 2, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
But Id like to point out that I used the word "HOPE"
not the word “EXPECT”
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 2, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
If he can never compete at this level again I think he retires and takes a goalie coach job or scout
He has way too much pride to let himself look like a fool. I still hope he makes a comeback but if he isn’t a solid #1 goalie I truly believe he would back out and not hold the team hostage.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
I'm a DP supporter
But I love the fact that Poulin can be the number one. My primary concern is that the Islanders win and having a legit number 1 goaltender or having 2 or 3 is an even better scenario. I don’t even prefer DP to be number 1 over Poulin, I just want the best goaltender available and I want to ensure the Islanders develop Poulin properly. I think what is best for this franchise is that DP recovers and lives up to his contract and Poulin overtakes him beyond a shadow of a doubt as the number one within 2 seasons.
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Im a DP supporter too but,,,,
If he can’t play six to seven games in a row without having to rest or recoup for the next five next year, then Im thinking look to move or retire DP. Or at that point DP has to take a back seat as a #2 goalie.
by Russel Ginart on Feb 2, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know about 6 or 7 starts in a solid row. Most goalies only do that stuff in the playoffs, but 4 or 5 straight in a 2 week period should be doable, but him doing that with back to back games in the schedule isn't as easy as one would think, no?
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, Moulson, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
Agreed
Back to back games your #2 goalie gets the second night. But still your #1 has to be in there the majority of the time, unless he is hurt or is not performing and your #2 is better.
by Russel Ginart on Feb 2, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Too early to throw in the Poulin is better argument. Poulin has too little a sample size and DP's game has evolved a lot since the beginning of the season.
This is still DP’s starter job to lose, and the only way I see him losing it right now is if he gets injured or is terrible, which he hasn’t been as of late.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, Moulson, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
by OzzyFan on Feb 2, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
there's was plenty ...
to enjoy in that game. Okposo can be a cementing force that really pulls the core guys together. that may be only 6 or 7 players right now, but his importance is obvious and I think very encouraging.
just no more major injuries – PLEASE!
and man, that two-on-one with grabner was awesome.
how many games can a goalie play before he no longer qualifies as a rookie?
because i want poulin to have a shot at the calder next year
POULIN is amazing...
He seems so confident, and doesn’t seem to let anything to get to him.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Feb 2, 2011 10:53 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Question for you guys
There’s been rumblings about the Canucks looking for a solid 4th line centre going into the playoffs, and I’ve heard Konopka’s name thrown around. What do you guys think of him, in terms of value? From what I can see he doesn’t have that much playoff experience in the NHL, and it’s only his second full season?
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He's a faceoff beast
so that’s good for D. He hits a bit, but not great, but he has a bit of a penchant for starting useless fights, and at times when we are in the O zone. Apparently great team guy, protects teammates, good with the media, hard worker etc. His faceoffs alone make him a huge commodity though, his #’s are outlandish…and really, our entire team has better numbers in the dot this year which may be attributed to him. He could be a benefit definitely! But we want to keep him. He is probably worth more to us than anyone is willing to part with, but if I remember correctly, he only has a 1 yr. deal, and if we get afraid we may lose him, we might move him…but he really seems like he wants to stay here.
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I second KQs take on Zenon.
Great for faceoffs, will fight anyone at any time even if not the best time, limited to no offense, but he always starts in the Islander end. He’s UFA at the end of the year so Garth may just say, “Do you want to go play in the playoffs and then come back in the off season?”.
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We’ve had about 8 different guys in the 4C spot so far this year, so there’s got to be something brewing for that. And I seriously doubt our best prospect, who got called up for the last game and played 4C, is going to stay there for the long term
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Speaking of your best prospect
What’s your take on his progress? Can he even do a short-term stint in that 4C role or is that just not a fit at all?
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He should be able to do a bit of a stint there starting out. I would hope he can move up, but right now with HSedin-Kesler-Malhotra down the centre there’s no real place for him to slot in, because all those guys are solid right now. I have heard talk that he might slide in as a non-faceoff centre on the 3rd line. IE Malhotra takes the draws, then moves to wing after.
But the major talk has been about how “we need a veteran 4th line centre”, and I don’t really feel that confident going into the playoffs with a rookie centering the 4th line.
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Konopka definitely comes across as a "glue guy"
Also a dominant personality too, so you never know how all that fits into an established room. He’s been around the block though, I’m sure he’d be fine.
I still love that signing of Malhotra. Fantastic, underrated move. Was hoping the Isles would run at him last summer but I knew that was a pipe dream (and that he’d have much better options).
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Yeah, I loved it too. I’m still on the fence if 2.5M is worth it for basically just a faceoff/PK guy now (his point production has dropped pretty significantly since the first quarter), but there’s a reason we call him “Money” (and it’s not because of the contract!)
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Garth may just say, "Do you want to go play in the playoffs and then come back in the off season?".
This doesnt happen. It just- doesnt.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 2, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
It’s surprising that it doesn’t to me. It seems like it would be a no-brainier for some guys and some teams and a favor for the player to get them a chance at glory. Do you think it’s a matter of hurt feelings or just the fact that if a GM is willing to take the risk on you maybe not coming back that the player was not that valuable to begin with?
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And Tkachuk, too
“Say, we’re going to deal you for a pick, you go chase a Cup for a few months, and we’ll make sure the wife and kids are comfy until you get back — er, I mean, until you bring the movers come July 1.”
I think with some of these guys (probably Roloson) there are at least conversations about if they’d want a shot with a playoff team if the opportunity arises.
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yes to half of this
GMs certainly try to keep in touch with veterans’ wishes for a Cup run, if their own team is out of it. It’s just good business. And no doubt, most of those GMs would love to have that player back after the “rental” expires. My guess is that to say “We’ll save a locker for you, nudge nudge wink wink” is de facto tampering. A player can say stuff like that, but the team can’t.
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Post dated contract
You mean guys don’t sign contracts that are post dated to July 2? Just kiddiing, but how do thses deals get hammered out within hours of Free Agency?
As long as he is your property you could discuss a contract extension that would lay out the terms for next season, effectively negotiating a new contract and it isn’t signed until the player returns. Just wondering what actually constitutes tampering. OR you could just have another team negotiate the contract and pick them up on waivers. I hear that works out great.
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the precise definition of tampering
I suspect it shifts with the weather, the mood of the lawyers involved, and the kaleidoscope that is the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
A lot of guys sign early in free agency because they have a good idea of what they want, they instruct their agents, and it becomes rather like trying to get into a hot nightclub: most GMs will be told, “I’m sorry, but you’re not on the list,” and a few breeze right through the velvet ropes. They have a fair idea of what market value is, what the player himself hopes for, and the rest is just math. I don’t think it’s a matter of prearranging with the clubs themselves. That’s one big reason why teams go for rentals in the first place – not just for the “We can win the Cup this year!” but “We have exclusive negotiation rights until July 1, maybe we can make this guy see that we’re a great place to play, with great players, and he’ll like the area and the team enough to sign!” They’re trying to get themselves on the list.
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The way I see it
Pointing out one or two times when this actually DID happen is like watching a solar eclipse and then assuming that its gonna happen all the time just because you saw it happen before.
I say to just face that fact that it is NOT going to happen… and the few times that it has will not change my recommendation.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 2, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
but solar eclipses are easily predictable even if they are rare
Highly improbable that a traded player returns, but I’m curious how many players that make it to UFA status re-sign with the current team either way.
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Not by you or me they arent
Unless you count looking up someone elses work as you or I predicting them.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 2, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
I actually am
Knowing HOW something is predicted (I taught science for many years) and using information gathered by others is not really the same as doing it all oneself.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 2, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
But youre honestly missing the point, I think
The point is that expecting something profoundly rare is not worth your time.
If you dont agree, by all means- continue to think that you can trade players away and they all just come back if you want them.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 2, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
I thnk you are missing the sarcasm font.
I do NOT think there is a high probability a traded player would return and I would not even predict it happening, I just said it could and has – but it was supposed to be tongue in cheek, but you took it so seriously. If you trade a player, they are gone and you pretty much start from scratch.
PS
And no I’m not a science teacher, but do have over 20 years supporting several space agencies. So I have done eclipse predictions on spacecraft, but you’re right we just let STK do the math at this point and feed it the orbit vectors after manuevers.
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Yeah, I totally missed the sarcasm font- sorry :).
I took it seriously because there are SO many people in so many places who suggest this as a viable option, when it really isnt!
As far as the 2nd part, thats cool as hell. I get it, but yeah- I need to look things up, Id never be able to make charts of the moon orbit or other shit like that on my own lol.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 3, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
That’s fine, that’s why I pointed it out. Sarcasm is my permanent font.
As for the second part, I didn’t want to come across as an arrogant prick, but the vague answer seems more so in retrospect. I don’t even enjoy orbital mechanics since it involves math, which is something I hate and why I don’t follow hockey for the statistics.
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Yeah the one thing that I noticed were the large penalty minutes. Thanks, I have no clue if people actually know anything, or if it’s just a case of media types looking at stat sheets and saying “oh hey, this guy wins a lot of faceoffs and is big and on a pretty cheap contract right now”
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Watching Vancouver’s depth, I can’t imagine him helping a whole lot — strictly faceoffs and out there as an extra faceoff guy in key situations, then not much more. Basically I fear he’d be in over his head at that level if he was used for more than that, so I don’t know if that’s worth it. Although it probably doesn’t hurt to try it and find out.
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one thing about having such depth
Konopka might be more effective on a better, deeper team – the Canucks wouldn’t have him taking three of every four draws in his own zone, for example, because as a whole they’re better at ending the play in the offensive end. Letting Z win some offensive draws could lead to him generating a bit more offense, improving his “boxcar” numbers. And he would probably be playing with better linemates.
On top of all that, he would be Vancouver’s middleweight option for any frontier justice; I don’t see anyone else on the Canucks (except maybe Rypien) who could scrap effectively. Z won’t disgrace himself in the non-punching, actual hockey category, the way a pure goon would.
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He picks mediocre goal songs
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Ahem!
Mediocre? If by mediocre, you mean downright terrible???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jy4tMySp5o
It’s a little “chanty”. Didn’t you get to hear this 3 or 4 times last week Semi? or were we in Vancouver? Kidding!
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I like our goal song.
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by TheMetalChick on Feb 2, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Just glad we aren't team number 14
using “Bro Hymn”
by ilopan on Feb 2, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I may not like the song much
But I can deal with hearing it five times as compared to, say, none or one.
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I could care either way on Konopka
We can send him to Vancouver and take back Danish RW Jannik Hansen so Frans can have someone to talk Danish with. He’d be a bottom 6 RW for us and would clear out the logjam at center a bit. He’s a RFA so we could keep him a little while.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
i don't want konopka ...
going anywhere. as i wrote the other day, he has already carved himself an important niche with this team and i think his value goes beyond any stats or numbers. not to mention his faceoff success.
by dose on Feb 2, 2011 11:48 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Sarcasm Font Alert
@ No, they shall remain on the periphery until such time as they can be traded for “the final piece”.@
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Because
we did not draft them
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1979-80
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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.
The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.
1980-81
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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.
Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.
1981-82
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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.
A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.
1982-83
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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.
Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.
