NHL Power Rankings; Mark Fistric Suspended 3 Games for Nino Hit
by Dominik on Dec 7, 2011 1:53 PM EST
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PrintThe NHL has suspended Dallas Stars defenseman Mark Fistric for his hit on Nino Niederreiter last weekend. The hit resulted in a concussion for Niederreiter and Brendan Shanahan explained that Niederreiter was eligible for the hit. But according to Shanahan, "the degree in which Fistric's skates come off the ice is evidence of his dangerous launch."
So basically, charging and leaving his feet. Shanahan's full explanation video is below. Here is Defending Big D's take (please don't troll), and in the body of their post they make a good point about Kronwall, who delivers the leaping hit quite often. Again, new era ... one hopes.
Also below: Assorted links, and our weekly NHL Power Rankings and survey of rankings from several media outlets, who took notice of the Islanders 3-0-1 road trip where Niederreiter both scored and got knocked out.
Shanahan Explains Fistric Suspension
Links for Personal Betterment and Generally Avoiding More Important Tasks
- More coverage of last night's 5-1 thumping of the Lightning: Our LHH recap and plus/minus thread | Newsday | Keith's recap at IPB
- I'm not sure I want to call Matt Moulson "Tim Tebow." Maybe I'll leave that to his linemates.
- Michael Grabner skated today but will be re-evaluated afterward.
- In Praise of the Bridgeport Callups [Islanders official site]
- PHT: Al Montoya is the guy helping the Islanders win again | ProHockeyTalk
- Podcast: IPB talks to Kevin Weekes about goalies, other topics
- On concussions and suspensions: Here's a list of both this year. Here's why suspending to injury is dangerous.
- Islanders: Prospect three stars of the week.
- Did You Know? The 2003 Draft was a good one | ProHockeyTalk Yes.
- Slew of NCAA players on preliminary U.S. World Junior roster :: USCHO.com :: U.S. College Hockey Online
- This is what happens when you have a bitter football columnist write something about hockey. A carwreck in words.
- This is what happens when you're on probation and get pulled over driving with three wheels.
- The back-channel saga of realignment. More on that from Puck Daddy.
Media Power Rankings
And now on to the media power rankings survey. Obviously, the 3-0-1 trip did some good in the eyes of the Fractured Estate. All of these do not reflect last night's win.
| Outlet | Rank | Last Week | Their Commentary |
| CBSSports | 27 | 29 |
You have to wonder how organizations like Pittsburgh and Los Angeles let Matt Moulson get away for nothing. Coming off back-to-back 30-goal seasons, he seems ready to reach that mark again this season, and his four-goal effort Saturday night in Dallas didn't hurt that pace. [Ed. note: Even though it's an obvious reference to make, I'm tickled by their reference to the Bruins as "steamroller." Note CBS's top two teams and what they did to the Isles.] |
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THN (Proteau) |
25 | 28 |
Four of next five are at home, including showdowns with Hawks and Pens. |
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ESPN (LeBrun) |
26 | 29 | Seven of eight points in their past four games for the Isles, who are showing signs of life. |
| CBC | n/a | 29 |
[pending] |
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TSN (Cullen) |
28 | 29 | Aside from John Tavares, the Islanders' top-scoring forwards are like a thrift-shoppers dream, with P.A. Parenteau, Matt Moulson and Michael Grabner all gathered off the scrap heap in some manner. |
| Fox | 27 | 30 | Matt Moulson scored four goals in a win at Dallas on Saturday and leads the team with 13. We wonder if the offensively challenged Kings wish they had kept him around. |
| Average |
26.6 |
29 |
Thank goodness it wasn't Burnside's turn this week as it would be really hard to trash a 3-0-1 road trip. |
Real Power Rankings
Our weekly "real" power rankings are courtesy of Mike, or ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles (who is the one you'll find tirelessly compiling FIG picks in the game thread), conceived and delivers these week after week. They are calculated in true "power ranking" fashion -- i.e. how well teams fare based on their opponents' records.
As a special bonus, he's doing month by month power rankings now, to see how teams have changed (since our weekly power rankings are cumulative). Check out his FanPost on the October and November tables, and notice how teams like Washington and St. Louis have almost swapped places at opposite ends, while the "look at their rebuild!" Oilers November was very different from their October.
As for this week's ranking, the table below reflects games through Sunday.
Explanation of how he does it is in the original post. If you have any questions about it, leave them in comments and he'll likely answer. For reference, last week's post is here. Here is how things shape up through Sunday's games:
| W | L | OTL | Pts | Win Pct | PWR | ||
| 1 | NY Rangers | 15 | 5 | 3 | 33 | 0.717 | 1998 |
| 2 | San Jose | 14 | 8 | 1 | 29 | 0.630 | 1951 |
| 3 | Minnesota | 17 | 7 | 3 | 37 | 0.685 | 1921 |
| 4 | Boston | 16 | 7 | 1 | 33 | 0.688 | 1916 |
| 5 | Pittsburgh | 16 | 7 | 4 | 36 | 0.667 | 1909 |
| 6 | Detroit | 16 | 8 | 1 | 33 | 0.660 | 1871 |
| 7 | Philadelphia | 15 | 7 | 3 | 33 | 0.660 | 1806 |
| 8 | Los Angeles | 13 | 9 | 4 | 30 | 0.577 | 1783 |
| 9 | Chicago | 16 | 8 | 3 | 35 | 0.648 | 1778 |
| 10 | Florida | 14 | 8 | 4 | 32 | 0.615 | 1768 |
| 11 | St. Louis | 14 | 9 | 3 | 31 | 0.596 | 1766 |
| 12 | Vancouver | 15 | 10 | 1 | 31 | 0.596 | 1687 |
| 13 | Phoenix | 13 | 9 | 3 | 29 | 0.580 | 1672 |
| 14 | Edmonton | 13 | 11 | 3 | 29 | 0.537 | 1644 |
| 15 | Dallas | 15 | 10 | 1 | 31 | 0.596 | 1618 |
| 16 | Toronto | 14 | 10 | 2 | 30 | 0.577 | 1613 |
| 17 | Buffalo | 14 | 11 | 1 | 29 | 0.558 | 1535 |
| 18 | Montreal | 11 | 11 | 5 | 27 | 0.500 | 1514 |
| 19 | Washington | 13 | 11 | 1 | 27 | 0.540 | 1512 |
| 20 | Nashville | 12 | 10 | 4 | 28 | 0.538 | 1494 |
| 21 | Colorado | 13 | 13 | 1 | 27 | 0.500 | 1475 |
| 22 | Ottawa | 12 | 11 | 3 | 27 | 0.519 | 1455 |
| 23 | Tampa Bay | 11 | 12 | 2 | 24 | 0.480 | 1437 |
| 24 | Winnipeg | 11 | 11 | 4 | 26 | 0.500 | 1422 |
| 25 | Calgary | 11 | 13 | 2 | 24 | 0.462 | 1394 |
| 26 | New Jersey | 12 | 12 | 1 | 25 | 0.500 | 1367 |
| 27 | NY Islanders | 8 | 11 | 5 | 21 | 0.438 | 1335 |
| 28 | Anaheim | 7 | 14 | 5 | 19 | 0.365 | 1228 |
| 29 | Carolina | 8 | 16 | 4 | 20 | 0.357 | 1130 |
| 30 | Columbus | 7 | 16 | 3 | 17 | 0.327 | 905 |
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The problem with the Kings
Is just that they were putting Moulson into the wrong role. Basically they wanted him to play defense first 4th line grinder, and if you’ve ever seen an Islanders game live, you know how Moulson loves to float.
The bigger question would be why did the Penguins let Moulson walk after college, considering that the 05-06 Pens went 22-46-14 in Crosby’s first season. They had 16 different people play wing on Both sides, and of that 10 of them were Left Wingers.
There wasn’t even anyone that great on the WBS Pens either, but hey maybe they kept Carcillo over Matty Mo.
"I really wouldn’t wish rooting for both the Isles and Blues on anyone." Dominik
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
Aside from John Tavares, the Islanders' top-scoring forwards are like a thrift-shoppers dream, with P.A. Parenteau, Matt Moulson and Michael Grabner all gathered off the scrap heap in some manner.
God, Garth sucks. ;=)
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 2:01 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
My post is magic. It just moved down the page.
POZO
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Continued ineptitude by the Islanders F.O.
they dare to acquire low or no risk players who then turn out to score 30+ goals for the team……um……RICKDIPIETROROMFL
Proud to root for the Jets, Mets, and Islanders!!!
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Bart Scott: "I’m sure now there will be something written about how the Jets are back, and we won’t listen to that either, because at the end of the day we know that you guys don’t know what the hell you’re talking about."
Indeed. Lots to laugh at when people say Fire Garth Snow.
You can add Montoya to that group as well. scrap heap purchases of PAP, Grabs, Matty Mo, and El Toyota have been awesome….but yes, Garth sucks.
What really concerns me...
…is that 4 of our 5 top scorers all were draft choices of other teams.
And lets face it, Tavares was a no-brainer.
Could we please pick a good offensive player? Lee, Strome and Nelson…a couple of them better work out.
Pretty symptomatic of the rebuild, I think
You’ll have a top pick in the mix, and otherwise transitional or stopgap guys. Just by age alone: Moulson, Parenteau, Nielsen (an Isles pick) all 27-28, and then you have The Phenom.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
It's also symptomatic of some crappy drafts by Garth's predecessor
If any players drafted by the Islanders before 2006 were worth a damn, they’d still be here. And that includes Comeau. Hell, Neil Smith was GM for 10 minutes and he still drafted Okposo.
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by PGI on Dec 7, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh yeah
That’s the other part of what I meant. The Islanders draft history under … some guy I can’t remember, almost guarantees that they have no non-top-o-the-draft leading scorers.
For all of Moulson’s and PAP’s strengths, I don’t think they lead any team at age 22.
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Oh, yeah, whatsisface
Rhymes with Dingleberry…
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by mikb on Dec 7, 2011 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bwahahahaha...Classic
He who shall be known as: “Rhymes with Dingleberry”
by CloseCallJiggs on Dec 7, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ryan Janikowski??
Dom, is this the guy you were trying to think of? Did most of the Isles drafting for some time, up until a few years ago when his contract expired, and Garth did not renew it?
He shoots...he scoororreessss....Go Islanders!!!!!
Not really though, all of Garth's picks are very young and still developing......
and neither Bailey or KO were drafted with very big offensive upside. I still think KO will be a consistent 20/35/55 player and Bails will be a 20/20/40 guy. Nino, Strome, Kabonov, Lee, and Nielson are the ones in our system with the biggest offensive upside. If 2 of these guys can pan out to be 60+ pt scorers we will be more than fine….and Strome could be 85pt scorer. The fact that he’s found Grabs, PAP, Moulson and El Toyota are huge bonuses.
I give him credit for finding them
I just want to add good draft choices to the mix. We can’t depend solely on other teams poor decisions. If this team is to take the next step, it is imperative that two of those guys you mentioned turn out to be more than marginal offensive talent. Much more, I hope.
agreed
And I think that the proof of a draft is at least three, and usually five years off. Unless you get an elite player, such as Tavares is shaping up to be, it’s not always immediate impact – and even Tavares has been on a steady growth curve, rather than instantly dominant.
Snow really was starting from zero, though – as if the Isles were an expansion team. Quick, stomach-churning trivia: without looking it up, can you name the only Islander draftee to lead the team in scoring after the departure of Ziggy Palffy and the arrival of John Tavares? (Answer to follow.)
In their heyday, the Isles’ own draftees dominated their roster – they had over a decade in the 70’s and 80’s where the only two players in the team’s top 12scoring who weren’t their own draftees were Butch Goring and Bob Bourne – and since Bourne’s rights were acquired by Bill Torrey the summer he was drafted and he was developed by the Isles, you can stick a huge asterisk on him. (Trivia part II – name the team that picked him.)
This is starting to come around now. In 2008-09, Okposo finished second and Nielsen finished fifth on the team. After that it was Trent Hunter 6th and Bailey, Comeau, Bergenheim 9th-11th. In 2009-10, Tavares and Okposo were 1-2, with Frans, Comeau, and Bailey 5-7. Last year it was Tavares first, and then Comeau, Frans, Bailey, AMac, and Hamonic filling in 5-9. It’s not a sea of imports any more. And the number of points it takes to be in those positions has been rising slowly:
07-08: 49, 44, 41, 41, 35
08-09: 56, 39, 38, 36, 33 (lordy, what a bad team)
09-10: 54, 52, 49, 48, 38 (more balance despite a small dip in the leader)
10-11: 67, 53, 53, 52, 46 (first team since ’06-07 to have four 50-point men)
11-12 (projected, based on 80 GP): 74, 67, 67, 48, 37
This would be the first time an Islander cracked 70 points in ten years (Yashin had 75 in 2001-02).
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by mikb on Dec 7, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Great compilation
Thanks for that-it really shows how far we’ve come. The worst part with 07-09 was not only were those teams awful, they were filled with the Comries, Guerins, Satans, etc.; not only were they terrible, but there was little hope for the future. Now we have a core in place AND the cavalry is coming. Good stuff.
Don't make me bring out the Silky.
I know Bourne was drafted by the Houston Astros....
But that is baseball….My guess is KC Scouts
We have a winner!
I thought this would be the harder question, actually. Good stuff.
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It is amazing what useless info I can remember....
but I can walk into a room and have no idea why
Not fair
I knew the Bourne answer, but I had to eat dinner. NHL fan does not eat dinner.
No clue on the draft choice leading the team in scoring.
OK, it was a trick question
NO Islander draftee has led the Isles in scoring between Ziggy Palffy and John Tavares. The closest was when Trent Hunter tied for the team lead in 2003-2004: he was originally an Anaheim draft choice in 1998 but he was traded while still in juniors and never played in the Anaheim organization.
In fact, the Bourne trivium was kind of a hint, though I didn’t intend it to be.
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The closest was when Trent Hunter tied for the team lead in 2003-2004: he was originally an Anaheim draft choice in 1998 but he was traded while still in juniors and never played in the Anaheim organization.
Jason Blake, too.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 8, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Blake
had played a decent amount with the Kings before he was an Isle, no?
Don't make me bring out the Silky.
Yes
Exactly 82 games over three seasons.
His stats page at hockey reference is crazy reading. I can’t recall another career arc quite like Blake’s – undrafted after two years of USHL and four years of college… then just 28 points as a King and, what’s more, only 30 in his first two years (112) games as an Islander. He was sitting at 19 career goals over 194 games through age 28 – and then inexplicably topped that number four consecutive seasons.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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You try not to judge a book by its cover
but the first time I ever saw Barnaby’s face I knew he was a reprobate
Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.
hey, it only took 1 dui for him to get canned by espn
but they kept him thru 5 aggravated assaults
#cavemanthinking
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Isn't that great?
And really, I think the only reason he’s canned now is because this offense risks deportation and makes them look bad.
(Btw, it wasn’t really five assaults, was it?!_)
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5 is what i read
from his ex wife i believe, but it’s entirely possible that info is inaccurate, i believe what i read, all the time
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I tend to write what I want to believe first
Then, having read it, I believe.
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by Dominik on Dec 7, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
a self fullfilling prophecy
i like it
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as long as what you write is written on the internet then it has to be true
because the internet has fact checkers and you don’t
it should go without saying but he's not gonna get deported
I happen to work in that business and i’ve seen guys with extensive and much more serious criminal records have their removal proceedings terminated.
"Calm down. Have some dip." - George Carlin
They can't deport him since his teeth are made in the USA and that makes him 60% US content.
or enough to be legally American.
Wow, ones who weren't celebrities?
(Serious question.)
Is Canada more serious on this than the other way around?
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Umm, can't think of any celebrities
It depends on the severity of the crimes, but i think I read somewhere that he’s facing 5 misdemeanor assault charges, and I don’t think that’s enough to get him deported, especially when you throw in his celebrity status which, whether we like it or not, always comes into play.
DUI isn’t even a removable offense, which means that he can’t be charged with it under immigration proceedings.
"Calm down. Have some dip." - George Carlin
This Fistric suspension is bad news for conspiracy theorists and the victim complex fans
Surely this was just a clerical error?
Got this one right in my opinion. Baffling that there was no call on the ice.
=d
by AP77 on Dec 7, 2011 2:05 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
I think most conspiriacy theorists
Think Shanny has done a way better job.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Shanny himself is bad news for conspiracy theorists
The best part about him, and the part was so blatantly lacking from CC that it drove me to drink: HE ACTUALLY EXPLAINS THE RATIONALE.
That’s all I ask. Everyone will have differing opinions, but at least if you outline where you’re coming from, I can respect the view. Campbell’s lone rationale was I WATCH HOCKEY. YOU DON’T WATCH HOCKEY. And for that, he was fired reallocated a decade too late.
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by Dominik on Dec 7, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
hear hear
In fact, I think Shanahan’s vids are kind of a subtle middle finger to Colie on that score – kind of like, “So, you watch hockey? Well, now EVERYONE will watch the play together and that’s not an explanation anymore.”
Just waiting for the Shanhammer to fall…
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Indeed.
Although I was referring more to the conspiracy theorists who think the league has it out specifically for the Islanders.
=d
Part of the scheme
is to lull us into complacency. They’ll be back. Oh, oh, they WILL be back.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
That was LHH last season
Probably shouldn’t be casting stones. Karma is a bitch.
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
Ha
AP is an equal opportunity stone-caster, so I think karma wouldn’t know which way to split the baby.
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"that's why you cook
the baby whole, and let whomever is hungry take what they need"
- Jonathan Swift
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by bob l on Dec 7, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I had to read that a couple of months
It took me a couple pages before I realized he was kidding…
by sayvillelax94 on Dec 7, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Competitive fairness
I’m very glad he got 3, that really sends a message, and I think it’s fair. But at times like this I always wonder — is it really competitively fair? Dallas got the benefit of us playing without Nino. Now other teams get the benefit of playing Dallas without Fisrtric. Seems like everyone comes out ahead except the injured team. I know there’s no easy way to resolve that (one of the games must be next game against that opponent?) but it still seems not quite right, like we just did a favor for Dallas’ next 3 opponents.
I would like to see that players that are suspended for less than 5 games not serve any against your conference.
That would prevent helping your enemies.
Not bad idea...
Especially with the new 4-conference format, where conference games will be more crucial.
But would have to differentiate injury-causing hits from non-injury-causing (or at least Avery/Wiz type stuff).
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 7, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
Next 3 opponents for Dallas
San Jose, Los Angeles and that team that plays home games on Manhattan Island. The Stars really have a wacky 5 game road trip coming, that takes them to California then to all of the three NYC area teams.
Fistric’s first game back is against the Islanders.
Well, if there's a guy on Dallas tomorrow wearing a "TISFRIC" jersey and wearing a Groucho Marx nose and glasses,
we’ll know that the conspiracy is alive and well. Otherwise, we’ll just assume he’s really injured and was going to sit out three games anyway. WE WILL NOT BE SATIATED BY YOUR “JUSTICE”, SHANNY!
I think it's right, too. I'd have said 2 or 3 games
It’s a new era, and probably rightfully so.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I like how he just plainly stated that “although there was no call on the ice, this is charging.”
Like: OH HAI to the two refs who were looking right at the play.
=d
by AP77 on Dec 7, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wonder if the refs hate these things
He basically said it was charging and should have been called. Do the refs get a call on the Shanna-phone saying, “Dude, WTF?”
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by PGI on Dec 7, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Commissioner Gordon here, Brendan
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
by PGI on Dec 7, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think the refs get a call
But I feel like Shanny has one of those phones with the blinking red light and buzzer that goes off when a questionable hit is made; something like what superheroes or the Power Puff Girls possess.
All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.
LMAO
at the powderpuff girls reference!
I can just picture shanny in Buttercup’s outfit.
"If the bell needs to be answered, we've got the guys to answer it." "If they want to start something, that's fine."- Trevor Gillies
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How appropriate
Bettman kind of reminds me of the Mayor of Townsville.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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I think Isles fans will always have a complex...
But Shanny is ruling by fairness and common sense…Campbell is to NHL discipline and Milbury is to Isles coaching.
by KO21 on Dec 7, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Isles fans have a complex?
They won’t even let us build a new arena, much less a whole complex.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 7, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Colin Campbell 'Wheel-of-Justice' would have said:
$2,500 fine, no suspension.
You know, cause it was the Islanders.
by barry_hal_oliver_24 on Dec 7, 2011 2:06 PM EST reply actions
Oh, man
I’d never watched them. That’s brilliant.
The Onion is almost a too-scarily-accurate portrayal of our society.
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“Sanchez is so bad he lost to Tebow, but the Jets need a quarterback so bad he’ll beat Tebow.”
Amazing.
Don't make me bring out the Silky.
I can hear Browning Nagle crying right now
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 7, 2011 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i'm riding TEBOW
in my fantasy playoffs… (i also have CAM, 2QB league)
i hope to be Tebowing all sunday long!
that was hilarious though “accurate QB’s too predictable?” haha
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Yeah, sometimes those cutlines are the best part of the clips
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The Big Tebowski!
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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It's not ...
enough. Someone still needs to catch him with a thunderous CLEAN body check that he’ll remember forever, or induce him to fight and then knock his neck off.
All these "why'd they let Moulson go" comments
Seem do bizarre and late to me, he’s already had back to back 30 goal seasons and then you decide to bring it up in one liners? Just seems weird to mention it now
by BaltimoreIslander on Dec 7, 2011 2:16 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Huh?
is the sarcasm escaping you…. or me?
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
He's refering to the media lines
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by Dominik on Dec 7, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oh yeah
I’d take that as a good sign. More about goals and less about thuggery. Even if the thuggery comments weren’t really deserved.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
the thuggery has a chance to be back though
being that Fistric’s 1st game back is vs us
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Power Ranking Say Something Syndrome
I believe quite often, they don’t know what to say but have to write something quickly because their bosses say power rankings are good for traffic. And coming up with something deeper would require some research, which interferes with writing tribute articles to whichever team is on top.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
by Dominik on Dec 7, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
hahahaha
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I've always said they talk about the best teams all the time
To attract bandwagoners and casual fans because they know the die-hards will:
1. Watch anyways or
2. It really doesn’t matter if they don’t watch because we score such good ratings with the bandwagoners.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
That's why I never understoof why Eklund seems to always throw the Isles in for his ridiculous trade rumors
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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 7, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
I think it might be because the rest of the league thinks the Isles are inclined to do “crazy” thinkgs- so it gives any whacked out rumor they come up with a bit of believability. “Well, who knows- after all, it IS the Islanders he’s talking about…”
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 7, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
Salary
we have a lot of room, and when you start talking about crazy trades or lots of players flying around, it’s easiest to just send them to the Isles so you don’t have to worry about the cap
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The Botta podcast is worth a listen
Kevin Weekes does a great job explaining the impact of a solid goalie on the rest of the team.
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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 7, 2011 2:17 PM EST reply actions
Mike Mottau has yet to register a single point
Yeah, when A-Mac is fully healthy I want him scratched please
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Sort of off topic, but the Mottau appearance in this vid featured on NHL.com made me snicker
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=137164#&navid=nhl-search
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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 7, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Some things don't change
I like how the announcers say that Mottau is going to be a good defenseman:) Funny stuff.
by Isle in Topanga on Dec 7, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yes but he has
TWO snow angles….@!# FIRE SNOW ANGLE NOW!**#
I think "Snow Angles"
is what keeps one employed even after their performance falters.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKq5u_apsXY
Watch all the way through for a pointless North Dakota fact.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 7, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Every time I question what I do with my time...
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Speaking of the pointless
Comeau’s now got 4 points (1 G, 3 A) in 7 games with Calgary, with a +1 rating, and playing on a line w/ Lee Stempniak and Mikael Backlund.
Guessing the Flame—er—lit a fire.
ehhh
November’s always been one of his down months I believe
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Ok,
I see PAP, El Toyota and Franzy as the 3 UFA that we need to sign. I think almost everyone agrees with two of them, with maybe some disagreeing with PAP. However, I’m convinced at this point that PAP should be part of teh core as well. I’d say he’s been our most consistent player and our 2-4th best player this year. He does all things relatively well. As of now, we’ll have almost 31 mil in cap space next year. All of the other UFA we have aren’t players I deem as important, although I could see us signing one of either Jurcina, Staios, or Eaton for Dman depth. I would take either Jurcina or Staios. As for contracts to the 3 I’d like sign, does 3yrs/6.5mil for Montoya, 3yrs/7.5mil for PAP, and 3yrs/8mil for Franzy sound about right? Do you think the numbers would get them done?
Montoya still has the chance to double his NHL games played
So I don’t know what he’ll command but your guess seems fair.
PAP I think would require something closer to Moulson’s deal. Nielsen I think definitely will require over $3 million and quite possibly $4 million annually. Particularly if Frans only signs for three years, he should be seeking a higher salary than you propose.
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They have shown to keep the guys they have already
So lets hope these 3 are re-signed too. I don’t want to lose any of them.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be surprised if they let any walk
Even Montoya, I know many are frustrated that DiPietro still gets even the shots he does, but since the 2009 draft I’ve suspected they’ve begun the long, slow process of making him redundant unless his play/health could prove otherwise.
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by Dominik on Dec 7, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sign Al now.
Give $2M over 3-4 years and I bet he’d take it. PAP and Frans will probably want 3-4M each. Both have, I think, proven their worth it, PAP probably ending up getting a bit more for having more of those “point” things that Frans laughs at.
My fear is that if Snow feels Nielsen can be replaced by Cizikias, and doesn’t want to cough up 3-4M, he may trade him away and I then I get sad. :(
by Les Beaver on Dec 7, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So, maybe 3yrs/8.75 for PAP and 3yrs/10mil for Nielson?
I’ll say 3yrs/9.5 for Nielson might get it done.. Franzies great, but we all know of your mancrush. We need to consider that some. Boy, what a steal though, 4yrs/20.1 mil for Nielson. That’s ridiculous.
I'm not so sure that PAP or Franzy get Moulson money though...I'd say both get slightly less than Mouslon. Moulson got something like 3yrs/9.75 I believe.
Goals are glamourous. I’d say PAP gets less than Moulson even if he puts up 65pts, but maybe go to a 4th year with Franzy for say 4yrs/11.5mil. Don’t know though, I worry about Franzy…he’s not big and I could see injuries becoming a problem as he gets older. But, what, Montoya is 26, Franzy 27 and PAP 28? or something like that. None are old though, and their prime should last for a good 4-7 more years…perhaps more for Montoya.
"Goals are glamorous"
That will be interesting, if they end up getting docked cash because they’re not “finishers.”
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Isn't that the way it usually goes. Goal scorers always seem more rewarded in a sense. You don't agree Dom?
I don’t look at it some much as being docked, just more that you win games because you out score the opponent, and therefore the players that put puck in net are rewarded better.
No, I do agree
There has been some evolution into respecting/quantifying the attributes of the all-around non-sniper player, like the guys Afro mentioned (Ward) getting paid.
That’s why I’ll find it interesting, to see how that plays out both in the Isles’ eyes and in the agents’. If Moulson the 30-goal man becomes a sort of “cap” over the other guys’ earning potential or not.
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Moulson is clearly the highest paid player on his line.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 7, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Yes, but they are not on the same line.
Moulson is a 30+ goal scorer on the 1st line, and Franzy is a 2/3rd line center that scores to the tune of 15/25/40. Even with better talent Moulson would be no worse than 2nd line and Franzy would be a 3rd line center. I see FRanzy getting something in the same ballpark as Moulson, but PAP getting less….especially since I agree that PAP isn’t really a 1st line winger. He’s more a 2/3rd line guy…but he’s proven that he can do his thing regardless of where’s he’s moved to. Again, Nielson 3yrs/9.5 and PAP 3 yrs/8mil and El Toyota 3yrs/6.5.
but PAP and Frans have played together as well.
I think all three are in the same ballpark, but I would give Frans the most. One since he is a center, two because he is still the most versatile and three because he was underpaid for so long it would be a bit of a loyalty bonus clause.
the challenge on this is that
Nielsen is one of many centers to potentially be in our system next year and beyond
we have so very many centers including good prospects for such etc
and I said that too.
I said PAP for 3 yrs/8 mil and Franz an 3 yrs/9.5 mil.
I'd like to hear the argument for NOT signing PAP to an extension
He’ll be pretty cheap compared to his production, Tavares-aided or not.
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
Argument against:
Still 82% sure he’s a Ranger Spy.
by Les Beaver on Dec 7, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Also
Can’t get into New York clubs if Sean Avery doesn’t give his consent.
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by PGI on Dec 7, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Very true. That makes the rest of the team look bad when they're all left standing on line at the clubs.
Goddamn Garth Snow sucks. Isn’t there some sort of Club Factor CORSI? DOES HE NOT EVEN LOOK AT THAT SHIT?
by Les Beaver on Dec 7, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure they can get into all of the LI clubs
Zachary’s – is that still around? The Hotel place in Garden City? I’m a little out of it on my LI meat markets. I need an OutQ update.
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Sirius XM
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I doubt any of them leave
Between the Islanders’ copious cap room and the “Hey, we gave you a chance and we’re building something here” angle, I would be surprised if deals weren’t done.
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by PGI on Dec 7, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
I think Montoya would be hard pressed to turn that down, unless some serious buzz develops around him during the course of the season (which is impossible as he’s an Islander).
I think you’re right with PAP in the 2.5-3 million range. Similar to Moulson’s but a touch less since assists aren’t as sexy as goals.
Frans’ type of game has become sexier, though, and when you have guys like Joel Ward ($3M) and Brooks Laich ($4.5M) landing big deals, it’s easy to see him getting something pretty decent. Of course Manny Malhotra only got 2.5, so that could be the low end of the range for Frans.
I also wonder if these guys are going to get a little padding in hopes of avoiding future Mules, especially Frans for playing for peanuts the last few years.
Don't make me bring out the Silky.
Paps was the best player during the slump.
How could Isles fan, who pays attention, want him gone? He is a fine player.
I agree, but he's the one that has had the hardest time getting traction with all fans IMO.
I remember some saying a month ago that he’s been playing over his head.
i dont want him gone, i want him off the top line
he’s not a top line RW imo
i think he’s a 2ndary assist warlock is what he is… pay close attention to his goals, the shots are not good, but somehow go in even though they dont quite go where you think he wants them to go to
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His shot is his weakness
But passing, possession, winning the puck and carrying the puck are his strengths. I don’t think the 2nd-assist charge holds up to scrutiny.
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carrying the puck i agree totally
but passing i only somewhat agree, i think he lacks the vision needed for a top line…
when he was “robbed” last night, did you see who was wide open on the right 3 feet from an empty net? if he slides that puck it’s a tap in gimme goal
maybe i’m spoiled by seeing the game thru JT’s eyes, but if the players were reversed i think JT passes that to the wide open PAP, maybe i’m wrong idk… all i know is
he IS producing so he’s going nowhere anytime soon
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That was a tailor-made one-timer opp!
No way do I fault his vision for not passing right back after that.
I do think JT’s redonkulous vision spoils us though.
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Yea
If anything you might fault him for not shooting a little higher, but if he had tried to pass it there, everyone would have been screaming WHY DIDN’T YOU SHOOT?
Don't make me bring out the Silky.
He's a secondary assist guy, because he is the carry it into the zone guy.
even though they dont quite go where you think he wants them to go to
and they all count equally whether by design or not. Maybe it is the very fact that they don’t go where they are expected to go that fools the goaltender.
this is reeking of the Onion segment above
NHL goalies confused by inaccurate shooters
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Sort of OT but not
On that note, Garon played really well for giving up five goals. He made some saves, including on PAP’s well-placed shot, that kept that from being even worse.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I would agree that if we had someone that was a more dangerous goal scorer that PAP would get bumped down.
For now though, he’s earned the 1st line and should stay there until we have a legit wing sniper.
Maybe it's because JT's gotten better
but if you go back and watch Rookie JT with Moulson and the rotating Wingmen, their biggest problem was getting the puck into the zone. Most of the time they’d dump it, get beat, the defenseman would clear the puck and everything would start over again.
The value in PAP is his ability to get the puck from the neutral zone into the offensive zone and giving guys enough time to get set. I don’t think you replace him on the top line until you find someone who can replace what he does. That’s why I don’t think the plan was for Nino to be on the top line this year.
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I think Frans will want 3-4.5 mil per
but agree with you on the need to sign all three…i wouldn’t go more than three years for Pap or Al, but I think Frans is the most important of the three to resign….Isles have Strome and Kabanov, not saying they could replace Pap in their rookie year, but I am saying, the team is closer to being able to replace pap than Frans…Cizikas should be ready sometime next season to replace Reasoner though.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Dec 7, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Don't forget Petrov
While he’s a wildcard, I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s ready for prime time before KK or CC.
It's possible he's ready for the start of the next NHL season
…at least to start with 10-12 minutes a game.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 7, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
I agree, that's why I upped it to 3yrs/9.5 or 4yrs/11.5. I still don't see Franzy getting much more than 3mil per..
maybe 3/10mil or 4yrs/12mil. He hasn’t been quite as good as last year, but the Isles do perhaps owe him a bit for playing for peanuts for 4 years. I see Montoya being about as equally important to sign as Franzy though with PAP being a distant 3rd.
What a difference a year makes
Islander Ryan Strome does not get a suspension for a boarding hit on Devil’s Gionta, and Fistric gets 3 games for a hit on Islander Nino.
I never thought I would see the day…unless, of course, Campbell left.
Thats ridiculous.
They’re all acting like a bunch of homers, then…
by KO21 on Dec 7, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Most fans are homers in some way
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
I agree but this is common sense.
Fistric left his feet and hit a guy in the head…Its black & white. If the shoe were on the other foot I wouldn’t be crying about it and I will admit I am a homer…
Hell, I'd be in tears.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Right
But if one of our guys did it and the head was down and we didn’t think it was on purpose (yada, yada, yada…), many of us would be saying the same. Didn’t Shanny also tie the punishment to the resulting injury — also a little dicey, if he did in fact do that.
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Indeed
And they avoid the head issue. Dallas guys are upset because it wasn’t a headshot, but I’ve yet to see the angle that shows Fistric wasn’t launching his shoulder upward into Nino’s head. But it sounds like the league sees that interpretation as murky at best.
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I Would Like to Think That Our Comments Would NOT Be the Same
This one was an absolute no-brainer. Fistric launched himself like a missile with his elbow into Nino’s head. End of story. If one of our guys did that, I’d say suspend him 5 games, not 3.
But these Dallas fans? They were twisting themselves into pretzels, analyzing the hit like it was the Zapruder film, trying to justify it. If I ever get that biased I hope I’ll have the good sense to take a week off from watching, reading or commenting on hockey.
by rmblifn on Dec 7, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Im with you, rmblifn....
I’ve seen Isles players get suspended and deservedly so…I just felt that we got it worse than others when Campbell was around…Shanny isn’t playing favorites…Thank God
There can only be one.
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by Dominik on Dec 7, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, alright, maybe two. But only two.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
by Dominik on Dec 7, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Sorry this is a No HomerS club!
We can have one…
by GreekIsles83 on Dec 7, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
NOT ME. I'm a witch that should be burned at the stake for having said I didn't think it was suspension worthy.
I thought it was borderline and that he left his feet on the follow through. Shanahan in turn interprets the rule that following through and leaving your feet “too much” is also charging.
I had a different interpretation than he did, but he explained it. I also don’t like calibrating suspensions with injury since that is a slippery slope. The fact that Fistric was never suspended, but has a past history is fair to me since it acts like probartion.
Witch!
On the prior history part: How did you read what Shanahan said at the end? It sounded to me like, “he was fined in the past but it was for an altercation and not an in-play thing so that doesn’t count?” It was just worded ambiguously to me, so I honestly couldn’t tell if it was a factor or not.
Resume burning the witch.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I'm starting to feel the flames, maybe I can just blow them out.
The three power point bullets made me think
- charging = bad
- injury = bad
- prior history = bad
It was a bit confusing, unles he meant to say he is a prior offender so he is taking that into account, but he isn’t a Cooke like offender so he gets an additional game and not 2 more.
That part
was interesting. He seemed to be trying to make it clear that this was a first offense. Maybe because it carried three games, instead of the usual first-timer two.
That’s actually an interesting thing in and of itself-that he got an extra game. Maybe that type of hit (exploding upwards, especially along the boards) is something they really want to make a point about.
BTW-I never thought the debate about whether he left his feet before or after contact mattered much.
Don't make me bring out the Silky.
The Jump
To me it always mattered becasue it makes a difference as to whether it is a follow through or a straight up elevated hit.
But to me
if you are as big as Fistric, it’s hard to imagine a situation where coiling and exploding up doesn’t result in something up around the head.
Don't make me bring out the Silky.
There are few times, if any, where jumping or leaving your feet is acceptable in a hit.
Especially both feet (unless you get upended). Most often you see a guy teeter on one leg because of a big hit. I made this argument right after the hit: if a guy shooting or passing must be responsible for his stick on the follow through, I see no reason the hitter shouldn’t be responsible for body before, during and after a hit.
Can one be an atheist toward a hockey team? That means I have NO faith anymore.
and I do NOT understand this
Why is it necessary to raise your hands to face level? Fistric has position, he can just lower his shoulder and hit him in the torso – with his elbows in and his hands down. That, plus the whole “jump into the guy” thing, is plain reckless. Again, it’s the habits of a generation of players raised on Stevens-esque highlight-reel hits, that have to be entirely relearned. Fistric went in to blow up Nino, not just separate him from the puck.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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This season will be a learning experience
it’s the habits of a generation of players raised on Stevens-esque highlight-reel hits, that have to be entirely relearned
This is also true and part of each person’s perspective. If I didn’t hit like that, the way I was taught to for years, I wouldn’t see the ice again. Shanahan himself would have had trouble adapting. I thought Fistric’s elbows were down when contact was made, which was always the guidelines. I also think that Nino was in a postion that he was going to take a shot to the head regardless of whether Fistric hit him with a shoulder or not. Hip checks are almost outlawed so there is no way he was going lower. Ever since a guy like Potvin himself never checked a guy “just” to separate him from the puck, but to remind him not to never touch the puck again.
The standards are shifting, which I’m fine with, but it will take a bit of time, with consistent rulings for these type of calls to become obvious. I personally, much prefer these hits, to those that are way late, like the hit on Horton and a player no longer has the opportunity to defend themselves. But I am not against a pair of games for a hit like this either, but it wasn’t clear, to me at least, that this was the new standard.
Go post this over there
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
{thought bubble}
{Hmmm, why is he holding his left hand back there…?}
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by Dominik on Dec 7, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Aw, man
I confess that this made me snicker. Poor Rick.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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He looks scared to death
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
Striet should not be on there before Moulson.
No disrespect to the captain but seriously…He didn’t even play last year and this year he’s been good but is he All-Star worthy?
please... after the RDP disaster....
can we just boycott the pointless All Star Game?
by Khan Noonien Singh on Dec 7, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
but then we wouldnt have the
fastest skater
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I love the All-Star Game
Someone’s got to be MVP and win the Chrysler Cordoba.
That thing’s almost as fast as Grabs.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 7, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Chrysler Cordova with corinthian leather! I remember!
You know how many corinthians had to be kiled to do an entire interior of a Cordova.
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Dec 7, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That's why you can't get the stuff anymore
Now it’s all fauxrinthian leather.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 7, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sigh
I wish I just understood what the word “troll” meant so I could follow your directions.
I tried an online lexicon and got results like: goblin, hobgoblin, magical being, bodach and stuff. My guess is that is not what you guys mean..
Damn your language.
In this instance, it means going on a fishing expedition to lure a rival into an argument
I.E. – going onto the Stars page and picking a fight over a controversial topic. Yes, we have a funny language….go look up the definition of “cleave” and see if that’s not confusing
Will check cleave
think I know some definitions..
Talk about words. Just read that someone was reassessed in Calgary.
Jessuss, do you like using S.
I like it in the fall...
when the cleaves clange clolors!
- F.N.P. Nutbudder!
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But English is so simple and straightforward...
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
saying something for the sake of starting an argument
screw homework, its all about islanders hockey
try looking up troll as a verb- i.e., "to troll"
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 7, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Its like this
All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.
by pippup on Dec 7, 2011 3:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Crosby out for Saturday's game
BComptonNHL Brian Compton
RT @PensInsideScoop Crosby to Miss Next 2 Games. Details here: bit.ly/sS2v8t #Pens
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"Psssst."
“…You sit out Sid, we’ll sit out Nino. Deal?”
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 7, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
The Islanders should forfeit this game
Out of respect for Sidney Crosby.
On Jan. 2, Versus Sidney Crosby will become NBC Sports Sidney Crosby.
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by Dominik on Dec 7, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm assuming there will be a moment of silence before all games until he returns.
And I’m calling bullshit on this. I think VERSUS is just looking to do a Re-Return of Sid Special when he comes back from his 2 game absence. They can show a calenday flipping over 10 months, then cut to his Triumphant Return I, then show the calendar flipping 5 days, and RETURN OF THE SID II can begin. I bet everyone in Pittsburgh that gives a shit about hockey will tune in again.
He's actually just in Manhattan filming a cameo for HBO 24/7.
They couldn’t possibly have an NHL production that did not feature Sid or Ovie.
Maybe they want to replay his comeback
So he can cap a hat trick with the game winner. 5-0 final of the last place team in the conference wasn’t dramatic enough.
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by PGI on Dec 7, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Forfeit, are you crazy?
We might only lose this game by 4 goals, now
Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.
Letang out as well?
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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 7, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
I'd bet boobie shots
he misses more than two games. I got a feeling they are trying to hold off the media onslaught and it might be longer. Just a hunch.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Yea
Was thinking the same thing. Wouldn’t be surprised if two games turns into more.
Don't make me bring out the Silky.
Agreed
I’ve been ignoring the coverage because I’m all Sid’d out, but saying ahead of time he’ll miss two games just to be safe is a little worrying (from the team’s and the “despite the nuisance, Sid’s good for the game” perspective).
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I'd be surprised if it isn't at least a week. They have breathing room and this is Crosby's career we are talking about.
Not 100% means a set-back for him, whether it’s slight headaches or otherwise. Anyone have a clip of that hit?
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
His teammate Kunitz ran into him.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
Wow. Found it:
He looked hurt, but what the hell is it? He seemed extremely in pain from that.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Doh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbTHOjQuKSA
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Hmm
wonder if it’s even a head thing. Looked like his groin/knee…
Don't make me bring out the Silky.
Could be everything
maybe he’s DP 2012
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
oh man
Knee on knee. That’s how guys sprain or tear ligaments. What a shame.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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…..’GOONitz’’……
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Sid's still ticked about DP
grabbing that puck for Nillson’s first start in goal
IF DP did do that
Regardless the reason, God bless him.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yup, he did. And there actually were Pens fans complaining afterwards as if he did something wrong.
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by TheMetalChick on Dec 7, 2011 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
It's only about Sid.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yup... Rick heartlessly denied him of the "come back for 2 weeks before going out again" puck that all players treasure.
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by TheMetalChick on Dec 7, 2011 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe Rick can give Sid one of his
He’s gotta have about 43 of those kind of pucks by now.
by Dorfer on Dec 8, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
NHL has petition the International Astronomical Society to rename the Earth - Sid's World
It really is his planet, the NHL just let’s us live on it.
It's Sid's world, he only lets you live in it
Until he stubs his toe and misses a month and a half. Then it’s anarchy..
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Minor vent
Just another reason why I like coming here to sensible people. The amount of posters out there on the blogo/media sphere who are painting this Fistric hit annoys me. “Oh poor Fistric who was minding his own business had his shoulder rammed into by Big Bad Nino’s head!!”
I am also sick of the people pinning this on Nino for “not keeping his head up”. Enough of this excuse, its overused as rationalization to blame the victim. And besides, in this instance, his head WAS up, its why he chipped the puck when he saw Fistric come to hit him. It even speaks more to the dirty nature of the because Nino saw it coming and still managed to hit him in the head.
by GreekIsles83 on Dec 7, 2011 4:40 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Puck Daddy's article is pretty funny
if you look at the comments section, the thumbs up/down are pretty even. That almost never happens.
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I almost cried when Reyes signed with the Marlins
Seriously, its gonna be a long season
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by Zhora on Dec 7, 2011 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Correction
“Seriously, its gonna be a long season next five years holy God why am I a Mets fan I hate myself I hate myself I hate myself I hate everyone I MISS YOU JOSE!”
I share an office with a Florida Miami Marlins fan, so he’s been nothing but happy while I wallow in misery. It’s amazing how fucked the Mets are for the future, even moreso than the Isles were four years ago. I don’t know if I can go through another rebuild with this team again.
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, WELLLLL, with the trade to the Giants and given who came back in it, that's gotta BEGIN to make up for losing Reyes.....
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haha this guy's comment from puck daady got mega thumbs down.
Actually, they need a button for…. “Dude, lay off the crack” with this one.
Mikev09 1 hour ago Report Abuse god id never thought id say this.. but bring back colin campbell. at least campbell was consistantly an idiot. shanahan is all over the map with these suspensions and we’ve already seen elite players get away with clear suspensions… sigh. why does it seem politics are ruining this game like it did to our world
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe you should stop...
reading the Stars’ sites.
I would find it hard to believe that islander fans aren’t okay with this. I actually think that Nino was pretty UNLUCKY to be even playing in that game. If Campbell was still in charge he’d have gotten 5 games for his hit on the angry dwarf, and saved himself a concussion.
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If it doesn't come from you
shouldn’t it come from Gerber?
I think they found a model...
This is Pagula’s personal house pet…
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Aw, cute
He won that at Pinewood Derby last year!
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Not sure if you meant me specifically
but if so, I don’t mean Stars blogs, wouldn’t bother cause I know they are gonna support their guys, just like we have the Isles backs here. Just pointing out the trend that when there is a dangerous play and someone gets hurt there is a rush to blame the victim and i am seeing it here. Doesn’t make sense at all here, but anyway.
3 games is nice and all, and I think warranted. But I would much rather have our 19 year old prospect non-concussed :(
But Greeks don't even like hockey!
/still chuckling after just now seeing the green rec-a-thon in your inhuman exchange with Les
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The Greek
might actually like hockey. But to get an answer you would probably have to go via Spiros “Vondas” Vandopolous.
Sweet
via Wire Inspire
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There were a couple of kids of Greek heritage in one of our roller leagues
Pretty good players, too. Elder brother is a forward, righty shot, good skater, strong wrist shot. He graduated to the open men’s league after his 18-and-under days. Younger brother is a goalie. Gosh, he’d be out of college by now. I feel as old as that guy in the picture below.
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aw nertz
Apparently, ABOVE is the new BELOW. See, I can’t even tell directions no more. Durned computers with your newfangled Internets.
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We are everywhere!
Myself, father, brothers, and cousins all play in roller leagues. Unfortunately the cousins are all Rangers fans due to being raised west of the Queens/Nassau border.
I use a lefty John Tavares composite, happily gifted to me by Mrs. GreekIsles83. Ah love (for the stick!).
Wow, those disciplinary videos never fail to impress.
+ NHL and exciting sound shield to open and close
+ Shanahan’s slow and deliberate delivery
+ Bullet points to help explain decision
+ Incident shown from more camera angles than there were actually cameras at the game
by Paumanok on Dec 7, 2011 5:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I love how Shannahan introduces himself and his title every video.
He’s the John Lauranitus of the NHL. “My name is John Lauranitus, Executive Vice President of Talent Relations for the WWE, and Interim General Manager of RAW.” It’s hilarious to hear in the same monotone voice that Shanny speaks.
Can one be an atheist toward a hockey team? That means I have NO faith anymore.
Simpsons clip
Who can link it in?
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 7, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Shanahan has quickly and effectively
removed all trace of the stench of Colin Campbell from the NHL disciplinary ranks. He continues to make logical, well reasoned and coherently communicated decisions. Didn’t hear a single “uh” in his explanation, unlike the illeterate, biased dolt who preceeded him. Guess he wasn’t a rag long enough to have been poisoned.
by randyboyd on Dec 7, 2011 5:04 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Fistric's first game back is against the Isles?
Do you think there will be any buildup/drama/tomfoolery or much adu about nothing since he did recieve a punishment?
I bet someone pays him a minor visit
It may be mostly verbal and shovey-shovey, not even captured on camera necessarily, but I’m sure it will be a topic on the ice.
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REPORT: THUG ISLANDERS TO GOON IT UP BEFORE STARS REMATCH
Activate G Rick DiPietro from IR; Assign G Kevin Poulin to Bridgeport of the AHL.
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by PGI on Dec 7, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Maybe he can get into a fight with Fistric and get his face broken again.
I would applaud Fistric for that one.
Can one be an atheist toward a hockey team? That means I have NO faith anymore.
cmon with this crap
Seriously – anyone who quasi-seriously hopes Rick DiPietro gets injured? From here on out those comments are getting deleted and the poster will be warned. It’s becoming epidemic at this point. There’s a fine line behind joking about the guy’s fragility or making an obvious hyperbolic or satirical joke, and actually wishing the man harm.
Enough is enough.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 7, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
You think the comment you replied to isn't hyperbolic?
I mean, it might not be, but it likely is.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 8, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
maybe - MAYBE the subject line alone
In a wry, martini-dry sort of deadpan humor… yeah, I can see that. The follow-up “I would applaud him” ruins that read for me. And it comes on top of an entire subset of game thread comments where people were straight-up giddy that Ricky had hurt his groin against the Stars. That’s ugly.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 8, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hmmm... I see your point.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 8, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
Martin didn't really get to finish explaining to him what he did was wrong
you know, Martin has a way of explaining things
Clips from the Pens game
were quickly been broken out at the Stars blog when it was realized he’d be back for the rematch.
Don't make me bring out the Silky.
Saw that
Too bad half of the combatants in that game aren’t here now. Not that anyone particularly cares.
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by PGI on Dec 7, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
Oh good lord
They have no idea, I’m sure.
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Just read ...
Pretty Good Idiot’s piece in the last thread.
Phenomenal. Right from the heart.
It’s all about ‘the bond.’
That Ray Ratto CBSSports.com article...
My god, that was unreadable. He got paid to write that? (And I’m using the term “write” very loosely.) Any vetting going on at that site?
Oh, and with regards to this sentiment:
Thank goodness it wasn’t Burnside’s turn this week as it would be really hard to trash a 3-0-1 road trip.
I laughed at the truth. It will be interesting to see what Burnside writes next week if (when?) the Isles succeed against the Blackhawks and Penguins over the next few days.
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He's really getting an ear (eye) ful in the comments, too
The ironic thing is accuses the NHL of getting drunk before realigning, but the article itself comes off as written by someone whose completely wasted.
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by PGI on Dec 7, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
No doubt
Normally I wouldn’t link to something like that, but it went so far over into drunken-writer land as to be unintentional comedy.
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Oh hells yes
And not to be crass, but I’m cranky and my knee hurts so here goes – hey Ray, you don’t have to dip everything in hollandaise before you eat it. That stuff’s clogging your neurons with goo.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Dude, it's Ray Ratto
He is wasted.
He’s the typical end of the bar sportswriter. Blurting out nonsense about games he never watches.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
You know what is most hilarious about his "argument" about realignment...
He attempts to paint a picture of an incoherent league randomly throwing teams into groups with no plan or purpose, but with little success if any reader has actually looked at the new conferences and heard the rationalizations from the league. Ratto bemoans Winnipeg being placed into a conference with no other Canadian team, but apparently he doesn’t know that the reason for realignment was to fix the time zone issue many teams face. Winnipeg is in the same time zone as it’s conference counterparts, so where’s the confusion? Unless Ratto doesn’t realize that Canada isn’t one giant time zone. Fucking moron.
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by Turgeon1992 on Dec 7, 2011 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I noticed that too
he probably thinks Winnipeg is closer to Vancouver than it is to Minneapolis.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
Francesca
linked to an article this morning that was in German claiming he’d be back next Tuesday. I find that hard to believe, but I guess you never know.
Don't make me bring out the Silky.
Is this the creepiest Islanders picture ever?
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 7:03 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
just some good photoshop opportunities.
I'm a mets, jets, islander, and terps fan. Also known as a glutton for perennial punishment.
A floating hand belonging to nobody is in this shot
Looks like Thing from Adams Family, you know, that hand creature that runs around their house. Only in this picture he is wearing a full body suit. It fits like a glove.
While watching the Sabres/Flyers game, I have come to a conclusion from the Isles off-season.
Ehrhoff was never worth it. He’s such a lazy defenseman. He makes weak passes, barely backchecks and frequently coughs up the puck somehow. He plays as bad as Mottau with some offensive capabilities (that he has yet to use in this game). Thank you for missing out on this one, Garth.
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Just saw an Anders Lee commercial on ESPNU
if we ever lose this kid bc of that stupid college loophole I will be one pissed chris
Fast and furious coverage of the slow and steady rebuild
An ESPN channel acknowledged hockey?
You wouldn't believe how good the Corsi is for my NHL 12 Be A Pro player.
by ArsenalLI on Dec 8, 2011 1:44 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Emery with the start tomorrow night for Chicago
Makes the game somewhat more winnable, I would say.
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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 7, 2011 10:14 PM EST reply actions
Maybe
But the thing is, the Hawks played a very poor game defensively- they and seemed to expect Crawford would keep bailing them out enough so that letting up a bunch of goals wouldnt matter. I would predict that with Emery in, they would instead play a relatively tighter game defensively and not have those same kinds of expectations. Hopefully we just kick their asses! :)
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by TheMetalChick on Dec 7, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
(they had seemed)
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 7, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
But wouldnt that also mean that they wont be
Relying on their run-and-gun offense as well? might make things easier on Montoya (Or Poulin if they decide so)
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That would be real nice.
I cant see them not scoring like maniacs again… but the Isles can still win if they work hard. Heres hoping the Isles are once again up to the task!
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by TheMetalChick on Dec 8, 2011 1:24 AM EST up reply actions
Emery is on my fantasy team
So this is a really tough call for me on whether I should play him or not.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
Tough call
Depends on goalie stats counted and how your matchup is. (assuming head-to-head.) I would say average about 3 goals against tonight, 26 saves, 55% chance of win, if I had to try to view it objectively.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 8, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Or 45% chance of win, rather.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 8, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
There 3 hockey games played tonight in the NHL
But apparently NHL.com thinks that an injury update regarding an individual player is the more important.
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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 8, 2011 2:05 AM EST reply actions
Montoya's Nickname
“Inigo”, from the Princess Bride. Quote" Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father, now prepare to die" So let’s hear it for Inigo.
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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.
The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.
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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.
Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.
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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.
A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.
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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.
Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.
