Where It All Began: How I Became an Islanders Fan, Part 2
In this installment we check in with the master of FIGs and power tablature, ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles, who has graciously written up his story. For the second week in a row it's another reformed Short Island Smurf fan. Considering that there was a 10-year difference between the birth of the Mets and the Islanders, I wonder if young NYC baseball fans of the '60s and '70s have the same experiences.
Well if one thing's for sure, the Islanders are definitely hockey Pepsi in NYC compared to the Rangers tried and true Classic Coca-Cola. Of course there was that brief flirtation with New Coke in the mid 90s (also known as rebranded Edmonton RC Cola) but now they are sticking with what works. In keeping with that theme, the Islanders have re-branded themselves for the ten millionth time, much like Pepsi changes the logo every other year.
ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles' story is after the jump. As always feel free to leave your own story, or just reminisce about different times and eras. I started this with the thought that sometimes we forget why we love our team, especially when the loses pile up and the guys are doing snow angels on the ice. So let's take a post to mellow out and enjoy the good vibes.
ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles
How did I become an Isles fan? Wow, this is going waaaaay back. I was a mere six years old when they won their first Cup. But I guess I'm getting ahead of myself.
You see, when I was a kid, I rooted for whatever team my Dad liked. He liked the Giants. I liked the Giants. He liked the Yankees. I liked the Yankees. He liked the Rangers. I liked.... I liked.... the Rrrrrr.... the Rrrraaaa.... I'm not so sure I can even bring myself to say it. But it's true. I've mentioned it once or twice before on LHH. I was a Rags fan for the first few years of my life. [swallows vomit... swigs a little rum.... continues]
That being said, I really don't remember much of that. I grew up on Long Island, a mere 5 minute drive from Nassau Coliseum. I started to really become aware of sports at the time that the Isles rose to dominance. Before that, I would just jump up and down when my dad did. And I'd be angry when he was angry, although I had no idea why anyone was yelling at the TV. The time when I went from Ranger fan to Islander fan was coincidentally when I went from just doing whatever dad did to actually understanding sports and what made some players and teams better than the rest.
My dad was a cop. My mom was (and still is) a hair stylist. Every Friday and Saturday, they'd drop me off at my grandma's house in Queens, while they both went off to work. I sat in my grandma's kitchen and watched the Islanders win their first Cup. I saw the wild celebrations both in the stands and on the ice. I still didn't quite understand what made a great team yet, but one thing ran through my head for sure: That's so frickin' cool!!!! Well, I didn't use the word "frickin'," as that word hadn't been invented yet. But you catch my drift.
Anyway, just about everyone in my family and all of my friends in the neighborhood seemed pretty happy that our local team won. So I was happy, too. Dad? Not so much. I didn't quite understand why until the following season. I mean, there's two New York teams, right? So if either won, New York won, right? My dad rooted for the Mets whenever the Yankees were horrible (oh, yes... that actually did happen, once upon a time), so why would this be any different?
I had a cousin who used to spend a lot of time at my parents' place. He was a few years older than me, and a big Isles fan. I remember watching an Isles-Rangers game with him, his dad (another Ranger fan) and my dad. The Isles beat them, and I watched my cousin give our elders the business. And that, my friends, is when I became an Isles fan. Every time we'd play wiffle ball in the back yard, it was always my cousin and I against our dads. It seemed only natural to have that sports competition follow through to the ones we watched on TV. Yeah, there are two New York teams, but the old guys liked that one, and we liked this one.
My dad wasn't entirely supportive of my switch, calling me a turncoat until the mid-to-late 90s, when even he had to admit that it takes a lot of determination to follow the Isles nowadays.
It was around the time that I switched allegiances that I started to actually pay attention to individual players. My first jersey had #22 sewn onto the back. By the fourth Cup, I really understood just how good that team was. Just long enough for me to appreciate - and more importantly remember - all those players we still talk about today.
So really, in a "gets it" kinda way, I became a true Islander fan in 1982-1983. Just enough to witness and comprehend true greatness in my own backyard. The next year, my dad took me to my first live hockey game. Final score: Isles 8, Oilers 8. People complain about tie games, but that one felt rather fulfilling, by the way. Anyway, both Bossy and some guy named Gretzky got hattricks. Not that it mattered. I watched the Isles sweep his team in the Finals just a few months ago. They'll never be a threat, right?
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Great story!
I can kind of relate….my mom grew up across the street from the old MSG and my grandpa was the ambulance driver for there……they didn’t get my not following along “their” local team.
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Did he drive the ambulance carrying LaFontaine? :-)
My dad and i wanted to make a “Pat LaFontaine Memorial Cup” that we’d pass back and forth, depending on which of our teams won the season series. The top of the trophy would be an ambulance with two wheels off the ground. One side would have a few Ranger fans trying to overturn it, and the other would be Islander fans trying to keep it upright.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 7, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
LMAO!
Unfortunately, no.
By the time that I became a hockey fan in the late 70’s, he had retired.
But he had some awesome stories! Not just of MSG but of Hell’s Kitchen in itself.
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Cool!
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 7, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Stories of Hells Kitchen
I worked as a chaplain this summer at Bellevue Hospital. While in Kip’s Bay, the opposite side of Manhattan, many of the people that wind up at Bellevue are the poor and uninsured from the Hell’s Kitchen area. Man, they can tell a story.
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by David Hanssen on Dec 7, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Indeed they were poor in that area
The stories that my mom and grandmother have told me from back then are not fun.
A funny one though….my grandmother was in labor with my mom and called for an ambulance. First one broke down and never showed. She called again, but by this time it was too late and when it got there, my grandfather was the driver and basically flipped because it was my grandma in labor. LOL
Their neighbor came in to help. He was the local iceman(for you youngins, before these nice refridgerators that we now have, blocks of ice were put in the back to keep items cold) that was an Italian immigrant who in his native country was a mid-wife. So Johnny the Iceman came in and delivered my mom in their Hell’s Kitchen cold water flat.
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by JW1970 on Dec 7, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
That LaFontaine trophy is priceless!
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Seriously
This needs to happen. Nowish.
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by David Hanssen on Dec 7, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
We were going to, but it was cost-prohibitive.
Guess they didn’t have any bronze ambulances lying around.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 7, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
In case anyone cares ...
about my take about how and when Isles/Rangers took on its monumental level of venom, I think it’s important to remember that hockey fans on LI prior to 1972 were ALL Ranger fans, including me, growing up in Levittown. My father and older brothers were Ranger fans. My whole neighborhood was. It’s hard for me to acknowledge now, but I loved the Rangers, watched all the games on Channel 9, listened to Marv Albert (“Kick save and a beauty by Giacomin!”) and Sal “Red Light” Messina on radio. Nevin, Gilbert, Teddy Irvine, Jim Neilson, I loved all those guys. The new team and the new arena going up 5 minutes from my house was the coolest thing that happened in my teens. Having our own team was awesome, but even then, I didn’t HATE the Rangers, and neither did other Islander fans. What started that, and the real genesis of what is now the most relentlessly rabid rivalry I know of (Yanks/Sox ebbs and flows as players come and go) came suddenly with the Islanders incredibly rapid rise, beginning with Parise’s goal. The venom started flowing from Ranger fans because the upstart Islanders go so good so fast, while the Rangers were on the down-slide. Though it would be another 5 years before they won the Cup, the Islanders were already the better team and everyone knew they’d win a Cup before the Rangers, and simply, Ranger fans just could not deal with that. That’s when they got real ugly, and when they did, Islander fans got ugly back. That’s when the feud was born. Literally overnight. The Potvin hit on Nilsson and the first Cup infuriated Rags fans even more, but the unending war was already on by then. What it comes down to in simple terms, the rivalry was born of one of the most basic of human emotions and damaging flaws – jealousy. And to this day, the Rags are the only New York team I root against. I’d rather see the Dallas Cowboys win the Super Bowl than the Rangers win the Cup.
by dose on Dec 7, 2011 9:02 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
This!
Good story, and a great way to put a smile on my face for the rest of the day. Thanks!
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 7, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Rec'd for Levittown reference!
I went to MacArthur.
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Yay Levittown
Although I didn’t go to MacArthur (St. Anthony’s lad here….I still get scared of men in brown robes).
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I actually had a Wantagh address, but Levittown all the same
If you know the “R” section over by O’Shea Funeral Home, there is a small section within there that is actually considered Wantagh.
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Mets
I’m a Mets fan, as is most of my family, because my father’s parents lived in Brooklyn and were Dodgers fans. When the Dodgers left, it was hard for many of their fans to turn and become Yankees fans because of all the recent World Series rivalry games. When the Mets came into existance, many former Dodgers fans moved on to them. I’d also imagine there was a similar experience for Giants fans, I don’t know any former Giants fans to say.
The Mets situation was very different from the Islanders because they were an expansion team replacing former teams in the same market.
by dunnowhat2type on Dec 7, 2011 9:07 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
The Giants fans
One prominent one is Evan Roberts of WFAN’s father. The elder Roberts was a big Giants fan and became a Mets fan when they expanded.
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by David Hanssen on Dec 7, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
I listen to them at work every day and I’ve never heard that one, I know he’s a big Mets fan…I think Giants fans had less of an intense rivalry with the Yankees than the Dodgers did.
by dunnowhat2type on Dec 7, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
I must've missed the first part of the series.
Thanks for linking to it… I just read it now.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 7, 2011 10:50 AM EST reply actions
It wasn't a particularly hard hit
But the infamous, or famous depending on your point of view, Potvin hit on Nilsson in the corner below my vantage point in the “sainted” blue seats during the 79-80 season completed my metamorphosis from Rags to riches. If I’m not mistaken, it was a rut in the ice in the same corner that had broken Dale Rolfe’s ankle during another season of high hopes on 8th avenue turned bad. During the annual preseason Islander game in ‘79, there were two kids in islander jerseys rooting rather loudly for the Isles when three bullies in the last row actually tried to throw the two kids over the railing. Whoa! This was preseason and even Rags fans wanted them gone. It wasn’t the team or the obnoxious MSG management style, but the fans that turned me to the Isles, who were obviously building a strong team that deserved appreciation, an appreciation the Isles never got, in my mind, and not just from Rags fans. It was a privilege to watch the best team I ever saw in any sport. Favorite moment: the two goal comeback in the last five minutes and overtime win in game five against Pittsburgh in 1982. Seeing the Isles’ jersey on ice even now 30 years later makes me remember what a great team the Isles were. I hope we don’t lose them.
by kennyboy13 on Dec 7, 2011 11:13 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
That's an intresting story you got there.
I never heard of someone switching allegiances over the obnoxiousness of one team’s fans before.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 7, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
And very perceptive to realize that your hated rivals were bound for greatness
It took me 20 years to admit to myself that the late 80’s Oilers were a great team :)
Sitting among these "fans"
For as long as I did, you begin to have a certain contempt for people who don’t give others their due no matter how great they are. I remember seeing Bobby Orr – that’s Bobby Orr, perhaps the greatest player who ever lived – getting booed by the fans at the Garden. One night, Vancouver’s Gary Smith, a pretty fair goalie, was shutting out the MSGs and, at one point i said, “Nice save.” It was a nice save, but people in my section were yelling at me. What better way to enjoy yourself than to go to the game and root for the team they hate the most. Though I could never root for the Flyers. If you’re old enough to remember, the Isles of the late 70s were thought of as a team that only needed to learn how to win the big games. Ken Dryden noted in his book “The Game,” which chronicled his last year in Montreal, that the Habs breathed a sigh of relief when the Rags upset the Isles in 79, virtually guaranteeing Montreal another Cup. Most everyone believed the Isles were going to be on top for a long time, if they ever won the first one.
Yeah
That kind of sports fandom doesn’t do it for me. People like that always strike me as too heavily using sports as an outlet for issues they’ve yet to deal with in their own lives.
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That 79 series was devastating...in hindsight
I wouldn’t have minded losing to the Habs in the finals, sort of a symbolic passing of the torch, like we did with Edmonton 5 years later. Nonetheless, I don’t think we take 4 straight without the pain of ’79, so maybe it was a painful blessing in disguise
Actually
That 79 series probably toughened them up to championship caliber. I remember Ron Greschner, sometime in the 80s remarking, “They got mean” in 79-80. But remember, Potvin missed half that season with a broken thumb and the team was actually in last place in the ENTIRE LEAGUE in January and it wasn’t until the Goring trade that they really got rolling.
That 79 team IMO was as good as any of the cup teams!
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Dec 7, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
I believe that Dale Rolfe ...
injury was so gruesome that the splintered bone actually stuck right through his sock.
Yikes!
I regret that I have only 1 rec to give
These stories are great.
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It's all kind of fuzzy at this point
No one in my family or friends were hockey fans, but I guess my my first exposure to hockey was a Saturday night game on WOR. It might have been a Isles- Rags game, One of my earliest memories was a finals game that I was not able to watch. Some of you guys remember the 1 TV per household days, you ses the Sound of Music was on and my mom and sister were watching it…….but it’s the Stanley Cup Finals! Needless to say I lost that battle
That sucks!
At least you can watch on DVD now. Unless they want to watch The Sound Of Music HD, that is.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 7, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
How I became an islander Fan.
My family immigrated to the U.S on December 6, 1968 and 24 hours later arrived in NJ. Back then I had no clue what the game of hockey was. Coming from the land of Al Montoya you can imagine that the word hockey did not exist. As an eight year old I began to watch the Rangers on the black and white TV we had. I shortly after that got into figure skating which lasted about two months. As I watched this game on ice I replaced my figure skates for a pair of old tube hockey skates. Does anyone remember the old tube skates? I joined a few junior leagues and became a goaltender. At the age of 12 the NY islanders were born. I still needed to completely understand the game of hockey so the birth of the NYI came by at the right time.
It was this team of cast offs that really were not that good and had to grow, improve to succeed. So I took and interested to this new team, I figured I too could grow and improve right along with the 1972-73-74 Islanders. It was like free coaching.
I felt like I grew as a player by learning the game by watching what Al Arbour was teaching. Like I said free coaching, can’t beat it.
I was totally hooked forever once Chico Resh appeared, and the isles had solid goaltending. I became a life-long die-hard fan when the Isles beat the Rags in the 75 series. I was gutted by Lanny McDonald’s game seven goals in the playoffs. I was devastated in 1979 when John Davidson stole the series for the Rags, which left Dennis Potvin on his knees with his head looking down in ultimate disappointment. I was on cloud nine watching these 1972 cast-offs win four consecutive Stanley Cups. I was full of hatred when Hunter cross checked Turgeon in the 93 playoffs to kill the tam’s shot at a fifth cup. I have felt like taking many trips to the coliseum just to kick the shit of our then GM, Mike (he that shall not be named) for having the yearly end-of the season fire sales. AND most of all I would like to give a wood shampoo with a two by four to the person that had the audacity to come up with a fish sticks logo to replace the LI logo. I am now 51YO and yesterday marked the 43rd year anniversary of my arrival in the U.S. and still bleeding New York Islanders orange, white and blue.
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Dec 7, 2011 11:42 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
Excellent
And also, happy anniversary!
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Great stuff!
I especially like " … a wood shampoo with a two by four …"
"As an eight year old I began to watch the Rangers on the black and white TV we had. I shortly after that got into figure skating..."
But you repeat yourself. :-)
That’s a great story! I wish I was old enough to remember the team starting their build-up to the dynasty. Cheers!
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 7, 2011 12:26 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
reply fail.
Meant to reply to Russel’s post above.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 7, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Seeing a Trend here...
I was raised on in Western Suffolk, and my family moved out from Brooklyn in 70. I can remember watching the Playoffs the first time the isles beat Rags in 75. I was very young so I really don’t remember the games, but i remember the Older generation that was raised in Brooklyn were trashing the team if not for any other reason then they were not the Rangers.
As some have said, with NY teams, some folks will pull for the Mets if the Yanks are out, and even the most die hard Giants fans had to cheer Joe and the Jets in 69.
But this was different, as if we were insulting all things that made the city great. Funny thing is, they rags hadn’t won a thing since they were 5 years old. Also funny cause they were defending a city that they had moved out of.
I was born on LI, and didn’t ( still don’t ) understand the alliance to a city you had fled for quality of life issues, so when I joined Dek hockey at age 6, I joined because the neighborhood team had those Blue, Orange and White jerseys. Beautiful, then, beautiful now.
35 years later, i’m still defending this team to people that feel feel we are an insult to all things NYC, but even with the Milstones, Spano, " he who shall not be named", and all the other wacky thing that have happened, I still follow everyday, still read old copies of the hockey news in august. Hockey is the only game i follow, and this the only team I’ll follow.
by JimFromStJames on Dec 7, 2011 1:04 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
I must say
The thrill of the hunt often is more fun than the kill. I must say it was fun seeing this team improve every year to that point where they waon the cups.
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Dec 7, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
These are great features.
Islanders hockey for most of us has something to do with family, and it’s great to hear these stories. Thanks MarkD & Icanseeformiles.
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For me the ...
bond I have with this team is partly because I saw their beginnings, basically grew up with the team. But even for those younger than me, whose parents might be my age, that bond was passed on only from parent to kid once, rather than from great grandfather to grandfather to father to child, so the newness and excitement was still there. Also, that it’s Long Island’s team rather than a big city is really cool, and that’s part of the bond too. In the clubhouse after the first or second cup Billy Smith said to a reporter – almost with disdain – ‘the Stanley Cup is not in New York, it’s on Long Island." I thought that was so cool, I was living in Houston then and my parents sent me all the Newsday articles. I cut that little clip out and taped it to the inside of my apartment door so I could see it eveytime I left for work or wherever.
by dose on Dec 7, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Nice!
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 7, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Fistric is suspended 3gms for his "charging/leaving-the-skates" hit on Nino:
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=60&id=140502
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
by OzzyFan on Dec 7, 2011 1:23 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Here's a "newly made" thread at the stars fan site here. We can gauge a reaction after a few hours of comments to see if they finally admit fault to their team or still blindly state they were wronged.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
I don’t mind when people have their own opinion/interpretation of events, it’s just when they are obnoxious about it (cough pittsburgh cough) that it gets annoying. So just leave them be.
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by Mark D on Dec 7, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not going back there, just leaving this for anyone to read that is curious.
The situation now is like a judge finding you guilty of a crime, I just want to see if they finally agree they “did” or even “could have” stepped over the edge illegally here.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
This one was so close that I get why one fanbase thinks one way and the other thinks differently
Even now, I agree with 2-3 games but I see why it’s debatable because it’s right on that line where the league is deciding this isn’t kosher.
It’s a dangerous hit in today’s era, but a few years ago people just saw that as a hard hit and place all responsibility on the victim (even though “keep your head up!” doesn’t apply here, since his head was up, he was just victimized by a suicide pass from behind and a D-man who eagerly took advantage).
(By the way, we have a new thread for it too, along with power rankings.)
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Lol, that is a funny story. Lots of people "inherit" their father/parents teams, but I'm not sure many change from those teams.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
By the time the I came into the world the Islanders already existed
So there was a choice between the Islanders and the Rangers. Actually, the decision really came down to the better logo; and we all know who has the better logo between the two. Having said that, if I had known about the Sabres at the time, then I would probably be a Sabres fan instead of an Isles fan. Yet, I have that LI/Shinnecock descent/ ancestry so it makes sense that I’m an isles fan.
All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.
Definitely a dad connection for me, too, but in a different way
I love my dad, but he and I may as well be from two different planets. He grew up in WWII Italy, dodging landmines and bullets and scrounging for food to survive. I grew up in 1980’s Long Island. The most death I ever saw was in Super Mario Brothers and Golden Axe.
But he had a foreman at his job that was an Islanders season ticket holder. And when he couldn’t go, he would give the tickets to my dad and he would take me. I don’t remember my first game, but I think it was against the Flyers and I think I was about 8 or 9. What I do remember, in no particular order, were:
- Fights everywhere, mainly in the stands. Fans wearing the other teams colors were always ejected. I thought this was an official arena rule for years.
- Some guy next to us with a face as red as a beet yelling at Bossy, which to me now seems unfathomable. Maybe he was a Flyers fan.
- A player who everyone was excited about, and everyone was talking about and who may have had the coolest last name I’d ever heard: LaFontaine. My dad pointed him out to me on the ice and my eyes followed him everywhere. I remember him being very, very fast.
- About a hundred banners hanging from the ceiling saying “champions” of this, that or the other. The rafters were full of ’em. And that was before they retired their numbers. To this day, the sight of all those banners makes me smile more than almost anything in sports.
My dad enjoys sports, but he’s not really a fan of any team, per se. We watched the Giants win two Super Bowls and the Mets and Yankees win World Series, but he doesn’t necessarily “root” any of them. He watches Serie A soccer on Rai Italia, but doesn’t really care who’s playing or who wins. He always just watched to enjoy the games and because these were our home teams. This was a big thing for me. The Coliseum was the Islanders’ home arena and it was in our county and so that was my team.
(Sidenote: Taking a cue from my dad, I don’t hate the Rangers franchise, just that loud sub-sect of fans that feel entitled for some reason, despite their team having as many successful – and about four times as many unsuccessful – seasons as the Islanders. It’s just unfortunate that the Islanders were most terrible during the era of ESPN and the internet and the Rangers were most terrible during the Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson administrations. The seven seasons the Rangers missed the playoffs in the late-90’s/early 2000’s seems to get forgotten, too. All that being said, anyone who says they’re just “Rooting for New York” is full of shit.)
We went to an incalculable number of events at the Coliseum. Islanders games, a ton of wrestling shows, circuses, boat shows, concerts. As I got older, I drifted from the Islanders and got further into other, more esoteric, pursuits, a.k.a. movies, comic books and video games. I got back into them while in college, proudly wearing my Fisherman jersey on the St. John’s campus and buying cheap tickets with the student discount. After college, I was fortunate to work for a few companies that had ties to the team and was able to get tickets and passes to almost every home game for four or five seasons. Of course, they were the worst four of five season the team has ever had. But I still went every time I could.
The Coliseum is a crumbling, god awful place. The team needs a new arena as of yesterday. But I will no doubt miss it very much when it’s gone. It’ll always be the place where my dad and I really had common somethings to bond over. Even if we didn’t always “get” each other, we can always sit and watch a game and enjoy the action and talk about old players that we remember.
PS: This whole series is great. Thanks everyone for the stories and I can’t wait to read the next ones.
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by PGI on Dec 7, 2011 2:26 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
This is great, pretty good idiot.
And rec’d. Hockey…..dads…..kids……memories.
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by CharlieIsles on Dec 7, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Seconded. Or... Uh.... "Fourthed"
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 7, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
PGI your post was great!!!!AWESOME!
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Dec 7, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Rec'd for same reason as CharlieIsles
memories with Dad!
"If the bell needs to be answered, we've got the guys to answer it." "If they want to start something, that's fine."- Trevor Gillies
Twitter: JenWillyard
Sounds like you dad was at least in your life
Just because he ain’t perfect doesn’t mean he didn’t try.
And the banners were what stood out to me in the coli. Every in there looks old and worn out, and those look like they were hung up 5 minutes ago, brand new.
I have a friend down here who was a thrashers fan, and went to an Islanders game last year, and he said when he first ewalked in and sw them he just had to get a picture of them.
Good post.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
I made sure to take my wife to a game soon after we were married
just to show her the banners. I made it very clear that not every team has a ceiling that looks like that. As bad as this team has been, one look up there and you know that a one point, they ran roughshod over the rest of the league.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
by PGI on Dec 7, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How I became a NYI fan? I lost a bet
At least it seems like that for the last 20 years.
The real reason is Germaine Gagnon, Spinner Spencer, John Sterling’s ISLANDER GOAL, games on Channel 9. I was a Trottier and Pat Hickey fan. I wrote to Hickey and Trottier at the same time for an autographed picture. Trottier sent me one 2 weeks later and Hickey sent me one 6 months later. That and wondering why NYR got so much attention for losing while NYI got no attention is the real reason I became a NYI fan circa early 70s.
Mets - Isles connection
I wonder if young NYC baseball fans of the ’60s and ’70s have the same experiences.
Eh, I know from my side there isn’t. My Pop was a Brooklyn Dodgers fan and continued to root for the Dodgers for the six years between the Dodgers leaving for La La Land and the Mets coming into existence.
Also, nice to know I’m not the only reformed Rangers fan involved here.
Formerly a part time contributor and pittier of fools, now an Emeritus at Lighthouse Hockey.
I forgot
How close it was to the Dodgers/Giants leaving and the Mets coming in.
"Matty Mo thinks it's different. He must be extra high today." BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Moulson's response to Isles black jerseys.
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
We are all fans of a red-headed step-child of a team!
The team was founded in 1972 during the 1972–73 NHL season as part of a bid to keep the rival World Hockey Association out of the Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum where the Islanders have played since their founding.
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
1972–74: The NHL comes to Long Island
With the impending start of the World Hockey Association (WHA) in the fall of 1972, the upstart league had plans to place its New York team, the Raiders, in the then brand-new Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Nassau County. However, Nassau County officials did not consider the WHA a major league and wanted nothing to do with the upstart Raiders. Since the only legal way to keep the Raiders out of the Coliseum was to get an NHL team to play there, William Shea, who had helped bring the New York Mets to the area a decade earlier, was pressed into service once again. Shea found a receptive ear in NHL president Clarence Campbell, though the New York Rangers did not want the additional competition in the New York area. So, despite having expanded to 14 teams just two years before, the NHL hastily awarded a Long Island-based franchise to clothing manufacturer Roy Boe, owner of the American Basketball Association’s New York Nets. A second expansion franchise was awarded to Atlanta (the Flames) at the same
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
Before the Colesium was built, the Nets played in Nassau Arena. That was one of long island’s biggest jokes.
Off Hempstead Tpke and Cherry Valley Ave., the area was better know for the Aurora factory, best know for it’s slot cars.
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!! Come, Get some respect a Professional team deserves!!
Sorry to be annoying but it ...
was the Island Garden arena, in beautiful downtown Hempstead.
What a place!
The awesome Beatty-Cole Circus was there also.
Anyone remember Sunnyside Gardens in Queens?
That was just before even my time, but I remember it closing.
I was born
the year the Dodgers made my parents cry. Both diehard Brooklyn fans, they were not about to suddenly become Yankee fans. So I grew up with the Mets. We laughed and we cried at how bad they were. We were joyous in 1969. So much was made of the 69 Mets, the only thing at that time that compares was the Jets Super Bowl win. With the Mets at Shea Stadium, we could go to ball games.
So where do the Islanders come into this? I grew up on the Brooklyn/Queens border in Ridgewood. Then in 68, my parents took us to Hollis. A lot further from the city and the concrete jungle.
During my high school years, I started watching the Rangers when they were on TV. I did not have a job, so I didn’t go to any games. Then a team was announced for Nassau, to be called the Islanders. Another couple of years older, I had a job that paid a small amount of money, but I could afford Islanders tickets because they were cheap. ( I got paid $55 a week) I mean $6 on student games. Usually someone drove or I begged my dad to let me use the car. 3 or 4 guys on the way to the game and a couple of 6 packs in the car. (perfect when the Meadowbrook was at a crawl).
I waited on lines that went around the colesium to buy tickets for the playoffs. I was at the epic Ranger game where the Isles lost in a fight filled game 8-3.
From that point on, I was never a fan of the Rangers again. I’ve tried to go to games if the budget allowed it. And I remember when Bobby Nystrom made history for the Isles. I was so happy, I cried. it was broadcast on a pay tv service which i forget the name of, but it had one channel.
Now I am much older, and have even gone to Islanders games on the road. Not many, but I have.
Forever, I will remember when I was an Islander fan, and the happiness and sorrows I have felt.
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!! Come, Get some respect a Professional team deserves!!
by Martys301 on Dec 7, 2011 8:54 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
Yet another rec magnet
These tales are great, everybody. We’ll have more posts in this series, but do keep them coming in comments, too.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Wometco Home Theater (WHT) was the name I believe
In the days before BQ Cable,lol. But they showed lots of Isles games.
"This season is a serious misallocation of valuable hockey resources"- Saving Private Tavares
by FireGarthSnow on Dec 8, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions

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