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Islanders 5, Lightning 1: Moulson Keeps Rolling, Ullstrom Gets 1st NHL Goal

David Ullström, come on down.

Things that stand out after the New York Islanders follow a 3-0-1 road string with a convincing 5-1 win over the Tampa Bay Lightning at home:

Even throughout 2010-11's promising second half which revived fan hopes, the best runs the Islanders experienced were two three-game win streaks and one four-game win streak -- each featured at least one OT/shootout "win" in the bunch. At no point did they win four of five games in regulation.

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After fending off the threat of a spiral as bad as last November and being outscored 11-0 in two games against great teams, the Islanders have entered December, their traditionally cruelest month, having won four of five in regulation and collecting points in six of their last seven, the 1-0 shutout loss to the Devils the only pointless game.

Star-divide

Mind you: Even the Red Wings, dominant all year, already lost six in a row at one point. Streaks obscure truths, and good (or bad) feelings fill the void. But if there's anything to be said for consistent effort, cheers to the Islanders for showing it despite their first rash of injuries of the season.

Game Highlights

Other Nice Things about Tonight in Particular

Josh Bailey and Matt Martin on the PK: A big moment may have been just 1:12 into the game, when Frans Nielsen took was called for a holding penalty. With Michael Grabner already out of the lineup and Nielsen in the box, this put the Isles in danger without their two best penalty killers. No worries. And no shots.

After a good start and penalty kill -- shots were 5-0 for the Isles -- just one breakdown led to the only Lightning goal, on their first shot. Both Frans Nielsen and Kyle Okposo came over to the left wing boards and got caught on the turnover, opening up a clear shot by Brett Clark from the point, finished by a precise tip by Martin St. Louis.

Matt Moulson Returns the Favor: Great board work by Moulson to win the puck and immediately locate John Tavares, streaking through the slot and placing the shot top left corner past Mathieu Garon. With the passes JT has supplied Moulson during his hot run, it was nice to reverse the roles.

Not that Moulson is Stopping: It was late with the game decided, but Moulson kept his scoring streak alive with a fantastic top corner shot himself, on a late powerplay. He's scored in five consecutive games now, though he's been annoying inconsistent by popping four in one game. Sheesh.

Tim Wallace Isles Debut: Great, simple, fundamental game by callup Tim Wallace, who was signed to a fatter AHL salary over the summer to build some real call-up depth and Bridgeport help. Nice retrieval and pass behind the net to Matt Martin, who outhustled and outmuscled Matt "LaFontaine Was My Favorite Ranger" Gilroy for the conversion.

David Ullstrom's 1st NHL Goal: What a fantastic, swift connection between him and Josh Bailey. Ullstrom headman's a carom pass up the left side of the neutral zone to Bailey, who lets the D focus on the 2-on-2 and then ... cleverly drop passes to Ullstrom for the one-timer past Garon. This goal doesn't happen if Wallace isn't streaking up ice to draw the D, either. Bailey immediately grabbed the souvenir puck and, frankly, he could do no wrong on this night.

Milan Jurcina, Down-Low Goal Scorer: Just because that was funny, and its occurring six seconds before the first-period buzzer sure made the night smoother. Another goal made possible by Bailey passing, incidentally.

Al Montoya: Not a busy night with the Isles outshooting 34-24 and controlling huge stretches of play, but he was there when needed.

Capuano on Montoya:

We held a good team to 24 shots tonight, and when we needed the save, Al was big for us."

Montoya on Montoya:

"Great effort all around. I didn't have to face much. They played last night so, I don't think I faced an odd-man rush all night. It makes a goalie's job easy."

The Least Worrisome Slump I Can Remember

Tavares' goal drought ended, but I confess I barely marked the occasion. He's simply been so good lately that his not getting new numbers in his "G" column didn't phase me (and I am not someone who avoids worrying about The Franchise). Different for him though:

"It's great getting chances, but it's about time I started capitalizing on them more frequently," said Tavares, who had five assists in his last two games but hadn't scored a goal since Nov. 5.

Martin on Not Getting Down after the First Goal:

"Someone mentioned before that when we used to get scored on early in a game we would kind of hang our heads, get down on the bench and feel like the game was over," Martin said. "Tonight, (when) they scored, we felt like we were in control of the game. We just stuck with it, kept playing hard and got a couple of bounces and put the puck in the net."

The Other Guys, and The Other Teams

It takes two to make a lopsided game, and the Lightning played their part:

"We've done great things lately," he said. "Tonight was a horrible game – the first horrible game in a long time. We haven't played one good back-to-back game in almost two years now. Our team has major trouble in back-to-backs, and it was just another proof tonight."

That brings up another point. The Islanders were dominant against a back-to-back road opponent, and they needed to be. From the Moulson assist to the Bailey-Ullström connection, the Isles outworked and outsmarted the Bolts on multiple occasions in each period. The Lightning have now lost five in a row, all in regulation.

With the win, the Isles are now one standings point behind Tampa Bay with two games in hand. Six points behind eighth-place Ottawa too, but we'll get to that if it ever becomes a factor, since there are five other teams in between and this mini-streak is the first bright stretch of the season.

To sum up: No Michael Grabner, no Andrew MacDonald, no Nino Niederreiter (though to be fair, he's arguably less ready than his replacements), and Mike Mottau and Dylan Reese instead of Mark Eaton ... but still another win -- their best win. Well done. Enjoy.

Note: For the commentariat and the lurkers, much further discussion of this game already in our traditional post-game plus/minus thread. Meanwhile, in our First Islanders Goal race, mike in mi takes the lead.

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first time I can remember all 4 lines clicking in a very very long time

and imagine – replace Rolston with Dibo, Reasoner with Cizikas – the playmaking of Strome next year possibly, the Kirills, Lee & Nelson – it must be tempting to Garth to trade to get some D now given all of our prospects

you need to bring immense talent to bear and/or energy/two way play – or get freaking lost (looking at you Comeau)

many things to look forward to apparently

by Cary K on Dec 6, 2011 11:29 PM EST reply actions  

streak

is currently at 2 not 3. Not sure if you meant to suggest otherwise.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 6, 2011 11:29 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, no. I was just referring to last year's good stretches (of "three" wins in a row)

Versus this little 4-0-1 run. Thanks, I should probably reword that to make it clearer.

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by Dominik on Dec 6, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Bailey was so controlled tonight

Like a real leader…controlling tempo…being unselfish…doing it all.
The best player on the ice tonight by a mile.

The isles still need Defense help…but they played fantastic tonight. Hamonic just now starting to hit his stride after stumbling a bit thru the the first quarter of the season.

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by FB4Real on Dec 6, 2011 11:31 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

doesn't hurt being paired with Streit

You wouldn't believe how good the Corsi is for my NHL 12 Be A Pro player.

by ArsenalLI on Dec 6, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it started a little before that though

And it seems like Capuano has been really riding both Hamonic and Streit….Pairing them with different people and sometimes together. They really shoulder the load back there right now……

Thats why the isles really need some help back there.
If the isles continue to get hot, that is when u might see Garth make a move. Move a player or two when they look to be valuable assets…lets hope when/if that happens, it works out well for the Isles.

They certainly do have a healthy pool of guys now and they have a bonafide STUD SUPERSTAR FRANCHISE BUILDER IN JOHN TAVARES.

They say that the great players in Team Sports raise the play of the players around them…I think we can all agree that JT is doing that (And not even just the players on his Line….EVERYONE).

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by FB4Real on Dec 6, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

When AMac gets back..

Wouldn’t mind seeing him take up a 2nd pair with Staios and then a Reese Jurcina pairing (sorry tonight didn’t save Mottau)

I think Streit and Hamonic compliment each other too well

Oh yeah, we played awesome tonight. Love how Bailey has looked as of late

Comeau

by BaltimoreIslander on Dec 6, 2011 11:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

PCB Post-Comeau Bailey

Since Comeau was waived (11/25/11) Josh has matched his 20 game output in 5 games. Now if they can keep some consistency on that third line we might see three lines that can put offensive pressure on an opponent every night.

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by JPinVA on Dec 7, 2011 2:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Bailey actually stated playing better before the 25th and Comeau trade, but he's played even better

since the trade. He actually started to turn it around after that dreadful clearing attempt against the Rangers on the 15th.

by NewIsles on Dec 7, 2011 9:31 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I sure am glad I got rid of Jobu so Jt could score again.

I’m not one to pat myself on the back, but if this propels us to the playoffs, dinner is on you guys.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 6, 2011 11:46 PM EST reply actions  

comeau being waived coincides with the recent success

i dont think it was a case of addition by subtraction,and =km loathe to give up a 24 goal scorer for nothing,but maybe a message was received by bailey and co.that all are accountable despite 1st round pick status.bc has had more success than jb ,with less talent. i really am curious as to the why/how this team has done an about face.(?). maybe the offense is more confident with inigo in net,but their defense has been better.more physical and more shot-blocking. tonight’s game had few episodes of “failure to clear” that we’ve become used to (er,i mean numb). lets hope they ride this

by Lakewood Islander on Dec 7, 2011 12:07 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

turned around after

1. Dipietro singlehandedly lost that Flyers game – and then was punchdrunk during the Dallas game and Al saved the day – the team clearly is better when El Cubano is playing – Poulin is fine as a backup

2. Comeau’s ejection from the team both sends a message and removed his game which was not helping matters

3. We got steamrolled by a series of events – Florida being much better than expected on opening day, Boston’s surge, Crosby’s return – that’s 4 of our losses right there – other than that, we are where we expected to be more or less

4. The team also got off to an oddly slow start in more ways than one – took time for lines to gel, and the defense speed has been slow – Reese has helped as well in this regard, but they need to beef this up or we will get caught out again

5. Tavares & Moulson emerging doesn’t hurt

6. if Ullstrom-Bailey-Wallace are allowed to play, and play like this, we may have 4 very strong lines soon

7. can we call up Cizikas for line 4 while we are at it (Reasoner was injured in the preseason, you wonder if he’s playing hurt – IR the guy if so – we clearly have lots of guys at Bridgeport who can help – Wallace’s game is similar to Frischmon & Colliton’s as well – and really curious to see Dibenedetto do his Pete Rose/Sean Avery act at some point)

And most of all – we had been held back by relying on too many players just because we were committed to paying them money – RDP, Rolston, Mottau – we’re getting something out of the latter two at times at least – and Comeau was dead weight, especially as he & Bailey never worked well together – Comeau was weighing this team down – zero points, negative stats, ineffective in general – contagious – as is winning

by Cary K on Dec 7, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I was gonna say

Definitely a combination of factors (and luck, always the right luck) which can easily turn back the other way. We’ll see how it works out. Certainly Bailey has looked coherent lately.

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by Dominik on Dec 7, 2011 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Baseball-Football-Hockey

These three sports have one thing in common: a key position which greatly determines the outcome of games. Baseball=pitching, Football=quarterback, Hockey=goaltending. These three sports also differ in one major way, Hockey:goaltending can steal you games, playoff sereies. A hot goaltender can take you to the promised land. So, Cary K, your point #1, trumps all others, althought you are correct on the other points. EL CUBANO GRANDE has solidified this position which in turn has turned around the teams fortunes.

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by Russel Ginart on Dec 7, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think it's addition ...

by subtraction so much because Comeau was horrible or a bad guy (even though I never was on board with him.) I think more, it seems like him not being has streamlined and simplified the whole ‘machine’ and allowed other parts to function more cleanly and efficiently, especially Bailey. In that context I think it is addition by substraction.

by dose on Dec 7, 2011 8:00 AM EST up reply actions  

its just too bad

in hindsight of course that we couldn’t get anything for Comeau during the summer. Like say a Dman for a 24 goal scorer, who was not considered a plague just yet.

by ghalbart on Dec 7, 2011 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

That can't be right

I think Blake was just trying to get Jack to chest-bump. “Yo! We’re not Islanders anymore! Wooooooo!”

Left his feet for the hit, too – shame on you, COZO.

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by mikb on Dec 7, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think losing Comeau has helped

Maybe it just coincidence but he may have taken down the play of his line mates. The things he would do were just do weird and had no real hockey flow. Baileys looks sooooo much better and Ullstroms play definitely hasn’t hurt. When Nino or Grabner returns I’d really like to see Rolston sit. From what I’ve seen all Ullstrom and Nino are better players, and if Wallace can keep up that play he’ll be a better option as well.

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by pgat28 on Dec 7, 2011 12:37 AM EST reply actions  

One way that it seems to have helped:

When Comeau wandered around, lugging the puck, it seemed to confuse the hell out of everyone else. They didn’t know where to go to create passing lanes, and they couldn’t support the play. They get to keep things simpler now, and it looks like they better anticipate where everyone is going to go to receive passes.

Case in point – does Comeau leave that puck for Ullstrom? Or does he make an outside move, COZO a bit, and then fire a shot wide and around the boards for a Lightning breakout? And while that ’s all happening, do Bailey and Ullstrom get caught low looking for centering feeds or rebounds that never happen?

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by mikb on Dec 7, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

How many times lately

have you heard Capuano say “we played within the team concept”?

I’m not saying Comeau was a bad teammate, just that he often didn’t use his teammates on offense or take their positioning into account on defense.

I think you are spot on with this.

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 9, 2011 6:52 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

one thing i just noticed

Bailey basically had the same amount of ice time that JT had tonight

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Dec 7, 2011 12:43 AM EST reply actions  

And now we are seeing why Cap has a man crush on Bailey.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 7, 2011 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

"Matt "LaFontaine Was My Favorite Ranger" Gilroy." LOL

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 7, 2011 1:10 AM EST reply actions  

I don't get that joke

Who is Gilroy talking about?

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 7, 2011 8:23 AM EST up reply actions  

pat lafontaine

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Dec 7, 2011 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Who?

Positive Waves! R.I.P. Indianapolis Racers (1974-1978)

by skeeterman on Dec 7, 2011 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Former Ranger

But he played the majority of his career with the Sabres, which Gilroy apparently will not acknowledge. He played for TWO teams, Gilroy!!

by Dorfer on Dec 7, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Matt Gilroy. Plays on the Lightning.

Who else could they be talking about? Ozzy apparently finds Matt Gilroy quite funny.

by Les Beaver on Dec 7, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

i have heard people speak of this pat lafontaine

it is a myth. it doesn’t exist.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 7, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

It's too bad

We could have used a guy like him…. maybe the Isles would have won the Easter Epic.

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by mikb on Dec 7, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't he start his career in Buffalo and end up on the Short Island?

One of the few players to play for all 3 New York state teams by appearing in only 2 uniforms?

by Hockey1919 on Dec 7, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Ya know

I have a jersey with a name similar to that hanging up in my closet.

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by JW1970 on Dec 7, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

It's amazing how many misspelled Flatley jerseys there are out there

I mean, they even got the number wrong! 26 guys. TWO and six.

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by mikb on Dec 7, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Getting pumped by the recent level of play, but can't help but notice that it directly coincided with me not posting here for a while.

God help me, I hope I didn’t just jinx them by doing this.

Great team game for the club, solid win, what more can we ask for?

Go Isles!

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by BrassBonanza10 on Dec 7, 2011 1:37 AM EST reply actions  

GO AWAY. ;=)

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 7, 2011 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, you know what to do...

…nah, to get to the top, they’ll have to rise above bigger challenges than this. They’ll have to put up with garik16 complaining to maintenance (game thread reference). They’ll have to put up with Stephane Auger. And they’ll have to rise above BrassBonanza10 posting for the good of every man, woman and Whaler!

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by Dominik on Dec 7, 2011 2:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno...

I still blame myself for the Hunter hit!

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by BrassBonanza10 on Dec 7, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

get him

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by since70too on Dec 7, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed...

but Ullstrom has had “chemistry” with whomever he plays with. The kid is good. Bailey will be fine. Wallace is a nice piece, but he is an AAAA player. If he can be more, this is the time to prove it. I’m guessing that reasoner doesn’t have a FT job if he continues his lack luster play. Nino… well.. GMs have reversed course before…
..and we still haven’t seen the new/improved NHL-Dibo, or NHL-Rhett this year.
SnowCap have some forward depth to work with.. and hopefully some CAP$PACE/BUDGET. Maybe they can take on some salary and insert some positive play in the middle of the defense.

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by JPinVA on Dec 7, 2011 2:13 AM EST up reply actions  

glad I went tonight....

i go to alot of week night games, and if we dont face a team that draws their own fans, man the place is empty. wish more people could have seen this game, what a pleasure to see them play so well.

everybody "wong" chung tonight

by potvins_cups on Dec 7, 2011 4:17 AM EST reply actions  

That was a fun game to watch

Some good news regarding Nino Niederreiter: his concussion is mild and he expects to be ready to play as soon as Tuesday against the Habs. Source (in German)
Happy to hear it was not as bad as it looked. For a moment, I feared he would be out for a while.

by Francesca on Dec 7, 2011 5:25 AM EST reply actions  

I stand corrected

I read the news a bit too fast.
He expects to be ready to play by Tuesday against the Habs, at the latest.
That’s a pretty fast recovery.

by Francesca on Dec 7, 2011 5:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm

that seems pretty fast, especially considering how out on his feet he was.

I’m also surprised with as well as they are playing right now, they would be in any rush to bring him back.

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 7, 2011 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

In a blog post

Nino also “wrote” that he doesn’t remember the hit. If you ask me, more rest would be appropriate. Blog post (German)

by Francesca on Dec 7, 2011 8:36 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

did you see him with that mouth of food last night before the game started.

Looked like nothing ever happened, just smiling and talking with food all over his face. Nino, didn’t mama teach you better.

by ghalbart on Dec 7, 2011 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know why

But I became a bigger Nino fan after seeing that.

by Dorfer on Dec 7, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea

especially since a rookie (or any player, really) fighting for a spot is more likely to lie about his condition to get back out there asap.

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 7, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

But Tavares didnt look nearly as bad

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by Zhora on Dec 7, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Crosby's didn't look as bad either but he lost nearly a year

The early symptoms don’t always show the real damage (or lack).

No Sleep 'til....Belmont?

by Anarcurt on Dec 7, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I call BS.

By which I mean, he might want to play then, but the team is better off holding him off for at least another week past that.

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by garik16 on Dec 7, 2011 7:47 AM EST up reply actions  

It would also be better for him. His mind went blank after the hit. He doesn’t remember how he got off the ice or how he showered. They may clear him to play by Tuesday, but more rest shouldn’t be bad for him.

by Francesca on Dec 7, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow, that's bad.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 7, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Aw, that's a shame.

The Carolina Hurricanes haven’t earned a win with Kirk Muller on the bench.

by barry_hal_oliver_24 on Dec 7, 2011 7:17 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

10 Bucks

He calls in sick tomorrow, never shows up again, demands to be signed by a better team.

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by Uncle Zenon on Dec 7, 2011 7:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Poor Kirk

Some days, you should just stay home.

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by PGI on Dec 7, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Good.

Fuck that guy.

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by Fabtraption on Dec 7, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Far as Comeau being gone and ...

that coinciding with Bailey’s recent play, I don’t think it’s ‘addition by subtraction’ so much because Comeau was horrible or a bad guy (even though I never was on board with him.) I think more, it seems like him not being has streamlined and simplified the whole ‘machine’ and allowed other parts to function more cleanly and efficiently, especially Bailey. In that context I think it is addition by subtraction.

by dose on Dec 7, 2011 8:05 AM EST reply actions  

When is the last time this occurred?

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by longbeach on Dec 7, 2011 8:11 AM EST reply actions  

I'm a mets, jets, islander, and terps fan. Also known as a glutton for perennial punishment.

by longbeach on Dec 7, 2011 8:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Bailey

FB4Real mentioned this earlier, that Bailey looked like a real leader out there. I couldn’t agree more. I think this has something to do with now being the Vet on his line as opposed to the young buck. He was drafted for his character and leadership skills not just his ability. Maybe he didnt feel like he had the right to take that roll with so many other Vets in the room. With his boy Comeau on his line he didnt take the wheel and stear his line but tried to play more of a co pilot roll. When he got sent down to the Bridge last year he dominated. Maybe because he felt he had the right to take control since he was an NHL player now??? Then last night he plays on a line with two call-ups and looks like he should have a C on his chest (or an S). Awesome. If this is the Bailey we start to see night in and night out there are good things coming the Isles way. For all the “brought him up to soon” talk, maybe they were right…..But Maybe Not!!

by Niagara Islander77 on Dec 7, 2011 8:39 AM EST reply actions  

It really helps having aggresive linemates

All the floaters and twirlers he has lined up with really didn’t help bring out the good player. I thought it would be Nino to bring this Bailey out but Ullstrom seems to be working just fine. His aggressiveness seems to have rubbed off and that line is clicking.

No Sleep 'til....Belmont?

by Anarcurt on Dec 7, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Completely off topic but interesting

Mike Murphy, backup Goalie for the Hurricanes, makes his NHL debut, coming in with 8 minuts left and the ’Canes down 6-4 in the third. Makes two saves and is pulled for the extra man. Calgary scores into the empty net with a minute left – Murphy the Goalie of record at this point. Carolina then scores twice in the last minute and the game ends up 7-6.

The result?

Murphy bnecome the first goalie in the history of the NHL to be “credited” with a loss before ever giving up a goal.

To steal a line from Tuesday Morning Quarteback, an insignificant factoid that may interest only me.

STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!

by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Dec 7, 2011 8:52 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Wow

that’s nuts. And yet I’m actually a little surprised it hasn’t happened before.

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 7, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Interesting technical question

If he didn’t allow a goal, then by definition he didn’t allow the losing goal – not if it was scored into an empty net. And just by itself that wouldn’t be the thing that makes him the goalie of record. It’s the two goals the Canes scored that took Cam Ward “off the hook” so to speak. But in order to be assessed the loss the keeper has to be on the ice when the losing goal is scored.

It’s different than in baseball, where the trailing team needs to actually tie the game before the pitcher of record escapes being charged with the loss.

In theory, this loss should not be charged to either goalie on the Hurricanes.

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by mikb on Dec 7, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

In theory, this loss should not be charged to either goalie on the Hurricanes.

Is that possible though, or does someone have to be assigned the L? FWIW, nhl.com has him with the loss in the game recap and his player page. The rule book doesn’t seem to cover how this works.

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by afrosupreme on Dec 7, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

In a situation where the ENG becomes the GWG because the losing team scores, usually the losing goalie has played the whole game (save the time on the bench) so logically he should be the goalie of record for his team. I wouldn’t have a problem with the Statistical Powers that Be just hanging the loss on Ward “Because hockey, that’s why.” In a case not specifically covered by the rulebook, I don’t see the harm in that.

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by mikb on Dec 7, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Grabner

Who is the odd man out when Grabner comes back? And not to mention Nino, hope its not Haley getting scratched again who hasnt done much, kind of like Wallace’s grit although its one game, need guys like him. Hopefully Capuano finally scratches Rolston and I am dreading the return of Pandolfo

by vegz on Dec 7, 2011 9:05 AM EST reply actions  

Be amazing if Rolston sat for a few.

I don’t think Pandolfo has a job to come back to anymore. Injuries can happen, but Ullstrom has played too well.

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by afrosupreme on Dec 7, 2011 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Somebody give me the straight CBA dope

As guys come back off the IR, what are the rules regarding our Bridgeport call-ups? Can any of them just stay on the Isles’ roster, no muss, no fuss?

At the very least I’d take Reese over Mottau at this point

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Dec 7, 2011 9:12 AM EST reply actions  

Hey look! John Tavares actually saying...stuff!
“I think you can see him believe in himself — his confidence and his ability were why he was drafted so high,” Tavares said of Montoya, the sixth pick of the 2004 Entry Draft. “Sometimes it takes guys longer than others, especially for a goalie. Sometimes it’s not always easy to find your way, but he’s battled hard. He came here (from Phoenix in a trade in February) with an open mind; we have him a great opportunity and he’s run away with it.”

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 7, 2011 11:27 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

But then he reverts back to athletespeak
" It’s time to move forward and get ready for two of the best teams in the League — we have to make sure we bring our ‘A’ game and understand that it’s not going to get any easier, for us, that these games are huge, and try and keep the momentum."

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 7, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

i think he actually is DTD

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by DarthDoyle on Dec 7, 2011 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

Rec'd

like the Large Hadron Collider in the future wishes the one in the present was.

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by afrosupreme on Dec 7, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

You had me at...

…wait. No, you never had me. In fact, I am lost.

Success was survival and, kid, it still is

by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 7, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Considering you wound up in NJ on your way to the Coliseum

I’m not surprised ;)

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Dec 7, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

My wife got control of the GPS

And she won’t give it back.

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by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 7, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha-it was a stretch, I’ll admit, but it’s a pretty funny (or I guess interesting, pending your perspective) story from a couple years ago.

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by afrosupreme on Dec 7, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

One of those scientists is named: Neilsen.

Now I’m kinda freaking out. What if Frans goes back in time and CLONES himself? Holy shit. Could you imagine a team of Frans Neilsens? They’d have to recall Frans, waive Frans, bench Frans. Shit. No I’d take that job.

But, as for Frans clones: I WANT ONE!

by Les Beaver on Dec 7, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

*No WAY I’d take that job…

by Les Beaver on Dec 7, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

We already have proof of the Higgs Boson

It wears number 40 for the New York Islanders.

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by mikb on Dec 7, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Grabner could wear his skates on his hands

and still skate faster than Mottau.

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by PGI on Dec 7, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

haha that is hysterical

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Dec 7, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Call me wrong.

I did not see it at all the way Shanahan did, I’ll have to see the video explanation and wonder if Fistrich’s two previous “near” misses in terms of suspensions played any part in it.

Charging is the right call if the suspension is based on him leaving his feet to make the hit and not the point of delivery – headshot. Contrary to the photograph Dom posted, Shanahan must have felt he left his feet prior to the hit. Maybe “jumps into” is relative to the follow through as well. Shanahan basically said , and I paraphrase, “you can leave your feet on the follow through of a hit, but not by as much as he did”

by Hockey1919 on Dec 7, 2011 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the fact that it resulted in a concussion factored into the decision

I like the suspension and hope Shanny calls these consistently. That said, I feel Nino was guilty of a similar offense on Gerbe a few games earlier, the difference being he didn’t get Gerbe in the head and didn’t turn into Gerbe’s head, as Fistric did to Nino.

by 4PeatSake on Dec 7, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Right

And the hit didn’t cause his skates to leave the ice.

In other words, if Nino were a ghost, the skates still would have left the ice.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 7, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Pots hit jump
In other words, if Nino were a ghost, the skates still would have left the ice.

That’s why ghosts only play in no-check leagues, but this is kind of true with MANY hits. You drive from you legs upward for the express purpose of driving the player backwards. In htis case Fistric was too effective and he count Nino in a vulnerable position.

They freeze framed at the point Fistric was highest, but they didn’t indicate that his feet were indeed firmly planted when he made the hit. I always thought (apparently erroneously) that I had to be off of my feet when I made initial contact for it to be a jump.

by Hockey1919 on Dec 7, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I thought so too

But Rome’s hit last season and this hit show that timing it just right (to lift the opponent) can be more dangerous than “jumping into” an opponent.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 7, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

wow.

Did not expect it to be that long.

Long live the new Sheriff!

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by mikb on Dec 7, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Why is Matt Moulson not one of the Isles up for the All Star Game voting?

I havent checked recently, but a week or two ago it was just Tavares, Grabner, and Streit. He has 2 straight 30 goal seasons and is one of the leagues top goal scorers this year. He might not get into the game because the fans voting is just a popularity contest, but still he should be considered.

by nyidangle17 on Dec 7, 2011 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

Perhaps considered

But Tavares has been better by far this season. Hamonic is not at All-Star level yet, and PAP and Montoya haven’t been quite at that level either, as good as they have been.

In a fair world, Tavares would be Isles’ lone All-Star representative. (But All-Star recognition is often not fair.)

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 7, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Silly isn't it?

I mean, we have the Internet now. How is it hard to have a drop-down with all the team’s players on it, so you could just tick off Moulson’s name?

aaaaah it's The Future GET IT OFF ME

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