Did I miss something with realignment?! Pens and Flyers...
Did I miss something with realignment?! Why are Tampa and Florida in the NE when they could put the Flightless Birds and the Flyers in the NE and put Florida and Tampa in the "Atlantic"? The two Florida teams travel is improved, they still get snowbird business and Philly and Pens get to stay together and continue the "rivalry"...
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doesnt seem they have brought this up ANYWHERE
So I’m assuming I missed a major point on why this would be no good….
Keeps the Caps, Canes and Florida together adding in the 3 NY metro area teams…
I’m just assuming I’m missing something becuase I have not seen this brought up by a talking head or a message board or a blog…
The way it is now really pisses on the Florida teams….
and then there was none.... impact free-agents or arena deals....
I think
a lot of the other teams, such as the Rangers and Islanders, consider the Flyers and Pens rivals as well, and probably didn’t want to lose those teams from their division/conference.
Don't make me bring out the Silky.
I would be happy losing both, keeping the rangers and building new rivalries
With our neighbors to the south!
and then there was none.... impact free-agents or arena deals....
I think that if the metro area teams join the current south east, the isles don’t gain exposure. The south east is the red-headed step child as it is. Mostly non-traditional markets that have had success but that many people would like to see dispersed into more traditional markets. The current Atlantic has some good rivalries, plus reuniting the Patrick brings a lot of rivalry history into the picture. It pisses on the Florida teams but I wonder if the NHL doesn’t see those markets as long term.
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by Turgeon1992 on Dec 6, 2011 4:20 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I get that... just odd that no one has brought this up...
In terms of “fairness” that everyones talking about with Detroit and Columbus etc… it would seem that geographical “fairness for the league” would include FLA and Tampa in an “Atlantic” division.
I get the old Patrick Division thing – I do – I liked it and I miss it (I’m 32 and remember it well) – but if the NHL is talking about moving forward in a fair way I’m suprised this wasn’t brought up. The snowbirds can see the NY teams, The NE is a true NE division and the Atlantic teams are true atlantic teams…
Tampa Florida and Carolina are as sucessful of sunbelt teams and I would bet on them folding due to consolidation before they would move… and with the resurgance in Tampa and Sunrise thats not happening anytime soon!
and then there was none.... impact free-agents or arena deals....
Looking at a Map
I love Maps so I looked where the cities are located and this is what I see.
South Division:
Fla, Tampa, Carolina, Nashville, St Louis, Dallas , Colorado
(Colorado because I need 7 and they are really in the middle of nowhere)
West: (this one has the worst travel, 7 teams again.)
Vancouver, Calgary, Edm, San Jose, LA, Ducks, Phx
(Maybe Colorado here when phx leaves and we move someone to south like Washington)
Central:
Winnipeg, Minn., Det, Chicago, Columbus, Toronto, Mtl, Ottowa (8 teams)
( I tried to keep some rivalries)
Patrick:
Isles, Rags, Devs, Philly, Pit, Buffalo, Boston, Washington (8 teams)
The divisions with fewer teams have the worse travel, trade off.
Maybe we go 2 or 3 best teams in each division and then by best record.
Split the divisions into 2 – 15 team conferences, top 8 teams in each conference playoff
Just a thought looking at the Map.
I get everything they have done but...
I jsut don’t see why they don’t move PA teams to NE and FL teams to Atlantic.
You’re looking at the country in more geographic terms and less in time zone terms… I think time zones have a lot do do with viewership as I can’t stay up to watch the Isles games on the west coast, so I can’t imagine being a Detroit or COlumbus fan haing to stay up late for 1/3 of your teams games…
But just switching PA teams for FLA makes so much sense to me!
and then there was none.... impact free-agents or arena deals....
One of the factors
May be that the Florida teams (mostly the Panthers) get a lot of revenue from snowbirds flying down from Canada — so much that they even market to them.
Travel distance is inevitable from down there, but tt sounds like they’re screwed most by the number of times they have to cross the border.
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by Dominik on Dec 6, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Makes sense
but talking about boarder crossing every conference game Atlantapeg plays is over the boarder!
Do you think the Comcast NBC thing comes into it?
and then there was none.... impact free-agents or arena deals....
Time Zones
Ahhhh Yes, Good Point.
Dallas and Colorado still screw things up. They both have no other team near them.
My understanding is that the Pens and Flyers were having fits over realignment
Pittsburgh did not want to be in a division that removed them from their rivals. Philly’s demands were simpler, they wanted to remain in the same division as the Penguins.
by Dougtone on Dec 7, 2011 6:16 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
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