Is it time to part company with RDP?
My take on the troubled former franchise goal tender.
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It's Time to Call It Quits
It is sad to see that DiPietro does not want to give in the unwillingness of his body to allow him to perform to a level he once had. The last two games I saw him play (Dallas and Philadelphia), it seemed he has a problem with going down and coming back up out of his butterfly, and also some movement issues across the crease when down. He also seems to be going down too soon too often. He got beat in Philly on several chances where they went high on him, and maybe they know to go up. He also still has that knack for trying to play the puck too much, and getting out of position.
If he is a true hockey player, and a true Islander, and he knows how his body feels, and he woudl still like to be able to walk and get up later in life with minimal issues, he needs to be honest with himself, and talk to Garth and Charles, and call it a career that was cut short due to injury.
He shoots...he scoororreessss....Go Islanders!!!!!
If Garth and Wang keep trotting DP out there it would be an injustice for the rest of the team....
Its just not professional to keep letting him play this way…
by KO21 on Dec 5, 2011 8:37 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
AHL time, if we only had cap room to do it.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
UNCLE!!!
OK I give.
I’ve really wanted to see Ricky bounce back, particularly after all the commitment he’s shown to this franchise and to us, the fans. I went into this season hoping he’d win the Masterton Trophy.
But part of maturity is knowing when and how (and when) to grow in a new direction. He can take all that he’s learned over his career and apply it in a new, meaningful way. Adjust the Dream.
But I still want to see Rick DiPietro lift The Cup.
by 19InARow on Dec 5, 2011 3:23 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Personally, I say waive him to BPT, let him play there.
Hopefully not permanently, but a good, long run. Let him re-learn his game. The guys in the NHL are too good for him right now. He’s not getting a chance to readjust and catch up. Every game is too important. Send him down for months. If/when he regains form, bring him back. It works for everyone.
As for the cap space issue, Snow will need to trade for someone. He’s got cheap parts. Bring in a cap rental. I’m sure there are team with plenty of decent, though over paid D men they’d be willing to part with.
How about a new contract for Franz?
Any way this can be worked to apply to this years cap? Two birds, one stone. Of course a Dman would be great too, just seems unlikely given all the other (richer) teams that are interested in adding D.
by CloseCallJiggs on Dec 5, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Dagnabit!
I guess the same applies for re-upping with Montoya and PAP. Too bad.
by CloseCallJiggs on Dec 5, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
FranS
S, not Z.
Im not trying to annoy you, the Z thing just really irks me for some reason.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 6, 2011 1:44 AM EST up reply actions
I feel awful for the guy...
But I am worried that he is done. He has been outplayed by almost everyone in the goaltending merry-go-round in the last year.
To be objective, most backups are outplayed by starters.
Thats why they are backup goalies. And Rick IS a backup goalie, make no mistake… thats something people need to keep in mind when they are considering him.
I dont think he will ever be a 60+ game starter ever again.
Now- can he stay healthy enough to remain in a backup position? Signs are currently pointing to no… but it is a long term question.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 6, 2011 1:48 AM EST up reply actions
2 questions
1. did the islanders ever officially get an insurance policy against DP’s contract?
If so, any idea how it would work, or if it would help against the cap?
2. If he retires, how does that affect the cap hit?
Players do not retire midseason.
When a player does retire, their contract is permanently done. No contract, no caphit, nothing.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 6, 2011 1:43 AM EST up reply actions
There's no public info about the insurance
The original ESPN news announcements from 2006 indicated there was some kind of insurance, but even that was a bit convoluted at the time (at first, no, then yes — as apparently they tried to to this deal the year before).
I know in baseball, insurance for a long-term pitcher contract is almost prohibitively expensive. And it’s possible the first X years of the contract were insured, or insured against injury during the first X years in the contract, which would make for a nice dispute considering at any time you could claim an early retirement traced to injuries suffered in 2008, 09, 10 etc.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I'm seeing this in more than one spot:
“A.) Gretzky Division
B. ) Howe Division
C. ) Orr Division
D. ) Lemieux Division”
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 6, 2011 8:58 AM EST reply actions
Uhhh, wrong thread
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 6, 2011 8:59 AM EST reply actions
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