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Islanders Bits: Niederreiter Concussion, Other Injury Updates to Come

After going winless on the road, scoring less than two goals per game and carrying an empty net-aided goal differential well in the red for the first quarter of 2011-12, the Islanders went out and won three on the road -- all by one goal -- put up four goals in their lone road "loss" of the recent trip and 14 goals in all.

Seven of 'em weren't even scored by Matt Moulson.

Now the injuries are starting to add up though: Nino Niederreiter has a concussion (no surprise) and Michael Grabner and Rick DiPietro will have their respective groin injuries evaluated today.

[UPDATE: Grabner is day-to-day, DiPietro is out but has no timetable, Evgeni Nabokov skated with the team today, and Mark Fistric faces an NHL disciplinary hearing Tuesday.]

You shouldn't mess around with concussions and you shouldn't mess around with groins -- especially on a speed-dependent player -- so prudence dictates expecting all will need replacing for Tuesday vs. the Lightning. That means call-ups.

Star-divide

Chances are there will be announcements by the time you read this, but we'll update this post here or fire up a new one if we're feeling up to it.

As far as whom to look to in Bridgeport, you can see who's hot in Mark's weekly Sunday Isles/Bridgeport prospect roundup, and you can catch Cary K's FanPost about Sunday's loss to Hershey.

Regarding Nino's future, that's first up to the way his brain responds to the unpredictable nature of concussions. But if there was any thought to releasing him to Switzerland's World Junior U20 Championship at the end of the month (I sort of doubt there is on the Isles' part), this throws that further into question. It might open him up to the possibility of another Bridgeport conditioning stint though. You hate to see this happen any time, but especially right after he scored that big goal in Chicago.

Meanwhile, isn't this the luck? Mikko Koskinen is red hot in Finland, and of course Evgeni Nabokov and DiPietro both get hurt after the Islanders ease up on their six-goalie situation.

Islanders/Hockey Links

NHL Realignment Talk

The NHL governors are meeting this week and realignment will be a major topic, so expect much more to come out on that (and expect me to link it, because I'm obsessed with the topic). Here is the updated stream on SB Nation's hockey hub on realignment, and here's more at Puck Daddy and NYT and NHL.com. Here is Larry Brooks voicing -- stop me if you've heard this before -- the NHLPA's view. [FanShot on that]

Ex-Isles

Fun weekend for watching ex-Islanders if you caught any of the Battle of Alberta Flames-Oilers game. Blake Comeau was a Corsi +10 (single-game caution for that applies) and collected a second assist, but what I noticed was his nice work in 2:19 of PK work. I've mentioned that I get the performance issues that led the Isles to give up on him, but I don't understand why his PK time had dropped so much this year before he was waived.

Anyway, that game featured some humorous Tom Renney line management in its critical moments, detailed with usual disgust at Copper & Blue here, and featuring some notes on Andy Sutton ("There aren't many legal things a stick can hit at face-level.") and Ryan O'Marra.

Ice Girls

Hey, here is a video from the Ice Girls Photo Shoot, with them discussing black outfits and such. I hear references to "bedazzled" and "sparkly" and "sore cheeks" and also, "That girl has the worst Corsi, I swear, I don't know how they keep skating her."


So there's that then.

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That Boogie man documentary is awesome

Even as a fan of the rougher side of hockey, they definitely semed to look at it in a fair way instead of act like Boogie got hooked on drugs BECAUSE he was a hockey fighter. I hate that opinion.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 5, 2011 6:57 AM EST reply actions  

Great article in the Times on him.

Really gives you perspective.

Though I have to avoid the comments. Love the Times as a news source, but the commenters are a pretentious bunch.

by Les Beaver on Dec 5, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

The same thing happened last year with the goalies, if you remember.

Before the Roloson trade, 5 healthy goalies were available. (Well, 4.5. That included RDP.) Then the injuries started to pile up.

God hates the Isles, I’m afraid.

by Kaonashi on Dec 5, 2011 7:08 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Speaking of goalies...

Where’s Poulin? Is he an option to backup El Cubano?

Isles rule, rangers suck... that's just how it is.

by Timtropolis on Dec 5, 2011 7:33 AM EST reply actions  

Thats what I want to know...

Poulin looked so good when he was up here…He is a tremendous athlete and has agility that an NHL goalie needs…Unlike DP…

by KO21 on Dec 5, 2011 8:23 AM EST up reply actions  

he's ready

but he’s also coming back from an injury and getting stronger and better for his play at Bridgeport, so a slight dilemna of sorts

woudl imagine he’ll be the callup for now, especially if Ricky’s situation isn’t likely to last for more than a week or so

by Cary K on Dec 5, 2011 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Nabokov is skating this morning

Maybe he just didn't want to travel.

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by Dominik on Dec 5, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

"--- especially on a speed-dependent player."

For Grabner it’s the equivilent of Tavares breaking his right wrist. A nightmare. Maybe it’s a grade 1. If it’s worse that’s a major deal long term deal.
I’m starting to lean to ’it’s time for DiPietro to hand em up.’ Without the venom though. He simply can’t stay healthy, he’s one of those guys, and now it’s time to start working the young ones into the mix to see what they are.

by dose on Dec 5, 2011 8:08 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

If there isn't disciplinarian action against Fistric

I’ll already have lost all faith in Shanahan being better than Colin Campbell. I don’t even understand the argument that this was a clean hit, you can clearly see Nino’s head snap back, making it the PPoC.

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by ArsenalLI on Dec 5, 2011 8:27 AM EST reply actions  

What's funny is

how differently people see this stuff. Check out the comments under this screencap over at the Dallas blog.

I look at that picture and see Fistric hitting Nino’s head. They see shoulder to shoulder. We’ll see what Shanny sees.

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 5, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Some perspective for Isles fans

This comment:

“well he is wearing a stars jersey

so im sure he’s looking at a fine and/or suspension whether the hit was clean or not…"

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 5, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

well the easy counter point

He is wearing an Islanders’ jersey, so we will see if anyone cars.

by ghalbart on Dec 5, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea

funny how all the teams are a target of a vast NHL conspiracy.

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 5, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, something is fishy with the Bruins

They get away with murder.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 5, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

No, not literally

I thought you could figure that out on your own.

They do run golaies, hand out two handers to the head on regular occasion, and run guys they’re mad at heads into stantions, all while being hailed as old school though. And all without suspensions.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 5, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that was an Anchorman reference

Simmer down now, simmer down.

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by Dominik on Dec 5, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

and THAT is a Fonzie reference. Nice lol.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 5, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Do they not see

that bit of black that’s slamming into Nino’s head? Yeah, that’s his shoulder.

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by Uncle Zenon on Dec 5, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

But me, I could care less what the stars fans think. I care what Cap and Shanaban thinks.

And if Cap dismisses the hit as legal like he did in that postgame interview, Shanahan can do the same and feel perfectly fine about it. Hell, he might not even look at it if Nino’s own coach thought it was clean.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 5, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

They don't have much response there ever

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 5, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

The thing that makes me laugh is that they are using a picture with the worst possible angle.

It’s like the comparison of trying to figure out a goal from a front of the net shot rather then an overhead angle. And even the pic they said that shows it’s “shoulder to shoulder” clearly has Fistric’s shoulder above Nino’s head level during that hit, and Fistric’s elbow at Nino’s head-level and that doesn’t even show a contact point yet.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 5, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

It was a hit to the head

not sure how anybody can say othrwise. i thought it was from the first replay I saw during the game.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 5, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

The Dallas feed from the side is different

At least, it explains why there was no call on the ice… from the side (where the second ref would be, across the rink) Fistric’s right shoulder hits Nino’s left shoulder – that’s why his arm flies back. That’s what the Big D bloggers are talking about when they initially said “clean hit.”

From the MSG feed, you see Fistric’s left elbow/forearm hit Nino in the head (as in the still-shot above) – but that isn’t easy to see from where the first ref (#34) is standing. He probably didn’t see it at full-speed because Fistric himself is in the way.

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 5, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

no problem

I’m currently arguing with Stars fans on a youtube video of the hit. This is just so blatant to me that I felt it necessary to whip out the MS paint to show why the hit is so bad.

You wouldn't believe how good the Corsi is for my NHL 12 Be A Pro player.

by ArsenalLI on Dec 5, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

arguing…on a youtube video of the hit

There’s gotta be a better way to argue about the hit than on YouTube…

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by Fabtraption on Dec 5, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I know

This is the first time I’ve ever gotten into it with people on Youtube comments as the people that tend to post on Youtube videos represent the lowest common denominator. The reaction to the hit just has me so annoyed that I’m not above trolling youtube.

You wouldn't believe how good the Corsi is for my NHL 12 Be A Pro player.

by ArsenalLI on Dec 5, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I had 2

You and TMC
this doesnt look good for the apocalypse rebuild lol

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by Zhora on Dec 5, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

JW1970 is a lady

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 5, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Hence the "ummm...."

It’s a Matrix reference. FYI.

by Les Beaver on Dec 5, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I assumed

that was a Dr. Strangelove reference, but could be wrong.

But, yes, in reality, our repopulation efforts are grim.

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 5, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

rec'd, this is a great shot

That hubble telescope never ceases to amaze me

by Isles2011 on Dec 5, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

isn't there something in the CBA about being too injjured to play?

And wwould DP qualify?

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 5, 2011 8:28 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Doubtful

remember, up until the Dallas game, he wasn’t “injured”, he just degenerated into not being good. I mean, for what it’s worth, now that I’m closer to 40 and my body is creaky, does that make me “too injured to play” or just old and beat up?

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 5, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

that depends on what kind of a mood your teammates are in

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 5, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Alas, there is not.

But there IS the AHL… which will eventually be what happens if he doesnt retire in time.

Be thankful that DiPietro didnt fight for a NMC- because IMO he would have gotten it.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 5, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

It seems what is needed...

….when the CBA is up at the end of the year is one of those Amnesty clauses the NBA just adopted.

I think it’s you’re allowed a 1 time use of the clause where you can buyout a player and have that salary not be counter towards the cap/floor. You still have to pay the player out, but it will not count against your cap. Trouble is: do you think the Isles would do that to DP?

by barry_hal_oliver_24 on Dec 5, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

There needs to be an NHL Lemon Law

Do you think DP has already been repaired enough times to be declared a lemon and sent to the scrap heap?

by GreekIsles83 on Dec 5, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I’m pretty sure, injury only matters for whether DP will collect insurance money on his salary. I believe if he retires his contract comes off the books for cap purposes.

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 5, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Why not just send DP to BP?

If and when he starts to show consistency, he can always return. No other team would ever take him off waivers. Of course it might take a spot away from another goalie coming up, but for now the Islanders will need one anyway. So everyone’s a winner, right? (Okay, maybe not Bridgeport, but he should be good enough for the AHL, right?)

by Paumanok on Dec 5, 2011 8:43 AM EST reply actions  

Because we need his cap hit

to stay above the cap floor. Without it, it’s a 1 million fine and loss of a first round pick.

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 5, 2011 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess I'm still cap-hit tone-deaf

The logic is so convoluted. Hopefully the management will finally get the idea that spending a bit more now on other players to cover the gap will pay off (even financially) in the future.

by Paumanok on Dec 5, 2011 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

It's very convoluted

Frankly I’d figure the cap floor was more about ensuring teams spend money (NHLPA pool) rather than ensuring the NHLPA guys they spend it on are in the NHL even when they don’t measure up.

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by Dominik on Dec 5, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Without it, it’s a 1 million fine and loss of a first round pick.

Whoa, this was news to me. That’s really rough.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Dec 5, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup.

Check this out.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 5, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I had brought this up a week or two ago...

… but as a few members of LHH’s distinguished community quite correctly pointed out, the Isles have a cap floor issue, and if RDP is demoted, they can’t count his $4.5M/year, and therefore fall short. Demotion is not an option unless they bring in some more payroll to get back to the floor, plus then Wang would have to eat both RDP’s $4.5M, plus whatever player(s) they dig up to replace his cap hit with the big club.

by SchneiderDiricov on Dec 5, 2011 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

scary to think RDP and Rolston make up 9.5 million dollars of our payroll

You wouldn't believe how good the Corsi is for my NHL 12 Be A Pro player.

by ArsenalLI on Dec 5, 2011 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

and if you add in the Yashin and Witt buyouts

It’s $12MM. Therefore 26% of the Isles $49M payroll (as per Cap Geek) is going to players who are pretty much a waste.

by SchneiderDiricov on Dec 5, 2011 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

haha that's awesome

Mark Eaton also makes 2.5 million and Mottau 800k. I’d add those to the waste category. I can’t even believe Eaton is our second highest paid defensemen.

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by ArsenalLI on Dec 5, 2011 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Eh, Eaton I don't mind so much

He’s at least a useful player, if overpaid. Sucks about his knee. I did the same thing to mine, it’s slow to heal and it’s a hassle and a half.

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 5, 2011 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

wow. how does that comparre to other teams?

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 5, 2011 9:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No other team is in a cap situation like this.

Im grateful it is not long term, next year things look normal- at least, right now.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 5, 2011 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully

it’s better next year, but there’s too many wildcards-the biggest being the new CBA. You have to think we actually get help there, but you never know. If the floor stays relatively the same, it’s going to be hard to hit it without a big free agent signing, especially if DP comes off the books. JT’s raise + Frans + PAP isn’t going to be enough.

Thankfully with 5 UFA defensemen we have opportunity to both spend and improve at the same time.

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 5, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

We might have to pay out the wazoo

to keep Frans around now that he isn’t really The League’s Best Kept Secret anymore, unless he really stinks over the course of this season.

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Dec 5, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

we also need to pay Montoya

You wouldn't believe how good the Corsi is for my NHL 12 Be A Pro player.

by ArsenalLI on Dec 5, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Insurance on the DP contract

There was talk a long time ago about there possibly being injury insurance on the deal – does anyone know if this actually happened, or was it just blowing smoke to make a 15 year deal sound safer?

also, how does it affect the cap if he retires versus being waived/demoted?

by nullzero00 on Dec 5, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

For those wondering why no word on a Fistric hearing

The Stars don’t play again until Thursday. No rush.

Or maybe they’re not reviewing it…but typically, if games aren’t upcoming, they don’t jam them in quickly.

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 5, 2011 9:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I'd like to think that's why no word yet

but the cynic in me thinks that the lack of hearning news, coupled with what I perceive as under exposure/disinterest by non-Isles media, will result in nobody bringing this incident up again outside of Islander circles.

I really hope I’m wrong here.

by SchneiderDiricov on Dec 5, 2011 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

On The Fly

Didn’t make a big deal of it… I was really looking forward to the insightful comments of Craig Button… deli clerk extraordinaire.
I can see how the on ice officials missed it, but when you watch the replay Fristic clearly launches himself.
To be fair (in an anti-Islander) universe, Nino probably should feel lucky he didn’t get three games for leaving his skates against Gerbe. Though, in Gerbe’s case you can’t get low enough to avoid his head, so maybe UP was the only option.
In both cases, we should be glad that Matt Martin did what was right… and in both cases the refs screwed him!

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by JPinVA on Dec 5, 2011 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Wrote to Ken and Jaffe about OTF this week, how they barely talked about the Isles

Jaffe responded that the Isles game ran late, and its all about scheduling for the show.
Kenny wrote back apologizing and assuring me that the Isles will get more attention next week to make up for it.
How about that?

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 5, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

That was nice of them to reply

Maybe you can get Jaffe to explain what really happened with his departure from the Isle booth

by JoRiverside on Dec 5, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

All Button said was

“The Islanders could’ve gave that one away in the end.” Huh? yeah, we could’ve. every team can in that situation. If you meant “They usually do” then say that.

They showed the hit, but didn’t seem to care at all about it.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 5, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I can only imagine the Shanahan video if he waits until Thursday morning to make a decision...

“I’m Brendan Shanahan, National Hockey League Senior Vice President of Player Safety. An incident occurred in Dallas between the New York Islanders and the Dallas Stars last… ummm… it occurred… geez, how long ago was it?… something like 4 or 5 days ago… Anyway…”

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by Captdallas on Dec 5, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Positive sign

NHL’s twitter just tweeted a Ryan Kesler hit. If they tweeted something like: “BOOM! Scrambled brains for breakfast! Watch Fistric absolutely pummel Nino on Saturday night” then you know a hearing isn’t happening.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 5, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i asked them if they were going to look at it

They said they will report on it when they have more info…its a crap shoot now

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Dec 5, 2011 10:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I fully expect nhl.com to run a homepage splash:

“WATCH: Nino Gets ’FIST’ed”

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by Dominik on Dec 5, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

uh........

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 5, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

i dont know of this was covered yesterday

But IPB has a nice article on Casey Cizikas. It goes over what he went through in mississagua, the kill, and has a few quotes from Bridgeport’s coach on his work ethic and how he doesn’t expect Casey to be I’m Bridgeport for much longer. If there is a callup soon, I wouldn’t mind it being him and/or DiBo

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Dec 5, 2011 10:04 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I'd be delighted if Casey got called up

but with Nino and Grabner out for the time being, the Isles need more help at the wing than at center. Isn’t Casey a natural center or does he also play the wing?

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by Fabtraption on Dec 5, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Ullstrom moves to C?

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 5, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

And replaces who?

You’ve already got Tavares-Nielsen-Bailey-Reasoner down the middle. Cizikas would only be worth it if you scratch Reasoner, and even still I don’t think that’s wise.

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by Fabtraption on Dec 5, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

that was a great write up there.

by ghalbart on Dec 5, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

penalty kill

Not the 30 Seconds to Mars song or the trial

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Dec 5, 2011 10:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Ewwwwww....

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by Fabtraption on Dec 5, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

i did some stupid things for girls in high school

Wasn’t my proudest moment

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Dec 5, 2011 10:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I hear you though

when a guy actually accidentally killed someone, probably best to use “penalty” in front of the word “kill” if it’s vague.

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 5, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe they call up Wallace

He’s on a two way deal. He’s red hot too 9-11-20 in 24 games. He’s not one of the long term prospects but he’s a good fill in for a couple weeks.

No Sleep 'til....Belmont?

by Anarcurt on Dec 5, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope they do it

Just to give me one day of non-stop “Where Wallace at?” references. I don’t ask for much.

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by Dominik on Dec 5, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

But IPB has a nice article on Casey Cizikas. It goes over what he went through in mississagua, the kill, and has a few quotes from Bridgeport’s coach on his work ethic and how he doesn’t expect Casey to be I’m Bridgeport for much longer. If there is a callup soon, I wouldn’t mind it being him and/or DiBo

Love Casey- I will have to heck this out!
But lets specify and call it thepenalty kill. It is so much less uncomfortable for all involved.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 5, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

my bad, wrote that while sitting in econ class on my phone

sometimes i just mess up my writing, it happens

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Dec 5, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Plus Minus Thought

I was just reading through the P/M for the Dallas game. I have to agree with the IsleFaninNJ comment there about it being somewhat redundant. That’s one of the reasons I’ve held mine back to a monthly recap fan-post.
My thought was that it could evolve into something like the FIG structure. Each poster could look for their biggest PLUS or Minus, if it’s not their already, create a thread, if it is there already reply to the original post.
What we should end up with is a structured (OCD friendly) list of the positive and negative points of each game, and the ability to “rec” each one individually, or add a supportive or counter argument to each.
ie
- Mottau sucks
> He is slow, lost and his mother dresses him funny
> Mottau had the best rel corsi on the team… even though he was -2 in a 1-0 game.
>> CORSI is a good name for an Italian restaurant, but is too subjective to help me evaluate a player’s performance
+ Moulson is worth every penny
> Garth snow should have played the lottery that day
>> Even a blind squirrel… FIRE GARTH SNOW!
>>> pic of blind squirrel with a cup labeled “NUTS FOR THE BLIND”

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by JPinVA on Dec 5, 2011 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

"Mottau had the best rel corsi on the team… even though he was -2 in a 1-0 game."

First, that’d be the best CORSI, not rel corsi.

Second, as I’ve tried to explain, corsi is useless without context….for instance, all year long Mottau has faced by far the worst competition of any our D-Men…..as such, it’s quite possible for him to have nice looking shot #s for a game or two.

Third, single game sample sizes, though fun to look at, are not determinative of anything. The best players have off games. The worst have good games. And then you have situations where the best players seem to have off-games but still do well on the scoreboard and the worst seem to have good possession games but do horribly on the scoreboard.
—-In other words, Single game Corsi is useless for anything. I use it every now and then because I’m a flawed human who forgets these flaws when it makes my point. But yeah, it’s pretty bad.

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by garik16 on Dec 5, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

CORSI gurus don't drink

They are from the same line as Samson and John the Baptist.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 5, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Pshh

As far as I’m concerned, Samson is a drinker.

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by Dominik on Dec 5, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

i prefer simpler jokes,

like this one:

a horse walks into a bar
bartender says “why the long face?”
horse says “I have cancer”

[most people don’t know that third line…feel free to change it to “my team’s goalie is signed for another 11 years”]

by nullzero00 on Dec 5, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

But I thought horses don’t follow hockey teams.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 5, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I don't have a sense of humor clearly.

Also, let me guess, they all say Ouch!

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by garik16 on Dec 5, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus-Minus Thinking

Looking for clarity, guidance, opinions here. You’ve held yours back because the thoughts or p/m tend to already be covered by others, or you think the p/m thread itself became redundant?

It’s hard to totally herd the cats in an OCD-friendly way, especially right after a game, but I could change the instructions a little bit.

In any case, even when it’s messy, with the game threads nearing 1000 comments it’s nice to have that quick bridge, then post a fuller recap later where we can add any post-game news, etc.

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by Dominik on Dec 5, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe instead of calling it Plus/Minus

just make it the knee-jerk reaction thread (or something more appropriate)

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Dec 5, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Or after losses it can simply be called

…the Cursing Chamber.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 5, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The Angry Hockey Dwarf Rant...

AKA the Nathan Gerbe “I want to use your testicles as a speed bag” Recap!

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by JPinVA on Dec 5, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

The full 20 point P/M's

…were becoming redundant for me. It’s not that easy, as I’m sure you well know, to say that mottau sucks, DP is an anchor and Brian Rolston is holding the team for ransom.
The only real difference is that instead of grouping the P/M’s by poster, they would be by topic. If you could keep format it that way it could be a really insightful read… or it could blow up the lab.
+ Moulson <-subject
(Supporting thoughts)
>Subsequent supporting thoughts
- Capuano
(Supporting thoughts)
>Subsequent supporting thoughts
+ Montoya
(Supporting thoughts)
>Subsequent supporting thoughts

If you(poster) have a list in mind, go down the thread. If it’s there already, rec it or continue the thread. If it’s not, post a new thread. pretty simple… (in theory).

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by JPinVA on Dec 5, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that would be ideal

I have not really stuck to that format myself, but that would be pretty sweet.

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by Dominik on Dec 5, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

After you laid down the "law"...

it seems to work pretty well on the FIG trees. Actually.. Icansee.. and you have done a really good job with keeping that whole FIG thing in order.
I just like planting seeds… not very good at tending to the garden.

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by JPinVA on Dec 5, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Pandolfo officially on IR

That opens another spot

No Sleep 'til....Belmont?

by Anarcurt on Dec 5, 2011 10:41 AM EST reply actions  

TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
NSH’s Jordin Tootoo has disciplinary hearing with NHL today. DAL’s Mark Fistric also expected to have a disciplinary hearing.

No Sleep 'til....Belmont?

by Anarcurt on Dec 5, 2011 10:53 AM EST reply actions  

Fair enough. At least they’re taking it seriously.

by Paumanok on Dec 5, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

beat me to it

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Dec 5, 2011 10:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No mention of phone, so could be in person? That comes with a minimum suspension usually doesn’t it?

by MSBerg on Dec 5, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

No it's the opposite

They cannot suspend a guy for more than 5 games without an in person hearing. They could do an in person and still suspend them 2 games. It just allows it to be longer. And LeBrun says Tootoo is over the phone so I’m guessing Fistric is too.

No Sleep 'til....Belmont?

by Anarcurt on Dec 5, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Anyone see Ruff's rant on Tootoo

Good times. I think he’s saying it’s a joke.

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by Dominik on Dec 5, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Does that mean we at least get a 30-second video

…saying why there is no suspension?

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 5, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

per bob mckenzie

Fistric to have a hearing today

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Dec 5, 2011 10:55 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Tootoo to have a phone hearing today about his hit on Ryan Miller during Saturday's game

according to ESPN. No news (yet) on ESPN about Fistric hearing.

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by Captdallas on Dec 5, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm sorry, I meant NHL.com

ESPN’s Pierre LeBrun tweeted the news of Tootoo’s hearing

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by Captdallas on Dec 5, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

well heres some good news

BComptonNHL Brian Compton
No Rick DiPietro this morning. #Isles
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

BComptonNHL Brian Compton
Evgeni Nabokov is on the ice this morning. #Isles
4 minutes ago

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Dec 5, 2011 11:13 AM EST reply actions  

The conspiracy theory would have to explain how/why Nabokov faked his own groin injury...

in the middle of a home game against Montreal. If you remember, he went down HARD.

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by Captdallas on Dec 5, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

That was the game he was being showcased.

Perhaps he really doesn’t want to leave the Islanders.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 5, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Uniondale feels a lot like home

to residents of the former USSR

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Dec 5, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

concrete everywhere

misses Chernobyl perhaps. (jokingly on this one)

by ghalbart on Dec 5, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

if he really needed home he'd play for the binghamton senators

that city seriously reminds me of the ussr

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by ArsenalLI on Dec 5, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

NYIslanders NYIslanders
Nabokov participating in his first full team practice. #isles
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Dec 5, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Groins can be unpredictable

I remember pulling my groin a couple years ago. Thought I would be out for 3-4 weeks because of previous experience with pulling groins, but I was only out about 10 days.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 5, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we assume from this...

that you play a professional sport? Because I’d find it hard to tell my boss, “I’m gonna be out for 4 weeks… yeah… the groin again”
Well.. either you were a professional athlete… or a professional dancer!

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by JPinVA on Dec 5, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Or he played in college?

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Dec 5, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

You caught me: Rick DiPietro here.

I wanted to keep my ID secret so that I could enjoy all of the comments on LHH without anyone knowing.

I’m just kidding about that, but I have a loophole: I’m self-employed.

I meant not able to play meaningless recreational games for 3-4 weeks.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 5, 2011 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

that's what i thought...

but once again… I needed a vehicle for silly “at work” humor… and sometimes the truth just ain’t that funny.

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by JPinVA on Dec 5, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Hahaha, oh God

the timing is too weird not to frink out the tinfoil hat crowd

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by ilopan on Dec 5, 2011 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Frink?

Freak, is what I meant.

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Dec 5, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE7mi-gdIYw

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 5, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

when you click that link it just takes your sig awy

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 5, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Frink? Professor Frink?

He’ll make you laugh, he’ll make you think.

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 5, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Not so worried....

About the DiP injury. That was to be expected sooner or later. The Grabner injury really scares me. With his reliance on speed, this could linger a long time and really take the jump out of him.

The largest thing weighing on my mind is Nino and a concussion at age 19. Can we please catch a break here NHL gods? Are you listening?

by Tazman19 on Dec 5, 2011 11:48 AM EST reply actions  

Has Grabs really been turning on the rockets lately, though?

I feel like his breakaways etc., have been more a result of smart positional play than pure speed lately

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Dec 5, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Clearly you didn't see Rolston (or was it Reasoner?) initiate a breakway due to smart positional play this weekend

And then immediately get caught up to by whoever turned the puck over. That’s where the rockets come into play.

Success was survival and, kid, it still is

by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 5, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Touché

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Dec 5, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Of course he won't

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 5, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Disagreed

I think Colie took the Islanders Factor with him. My guess is two games.

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by mikb on Dec 5, 2011 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm late to the party.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 5, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQo8vZixklg

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by ilopan on Dec 5, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

vaguely NSFW btw

lolwtfbbq

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by ilopan on Dec 5, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

TSNBobMcKenzie Bob McKenzie
If Dallas defenceman Fistric is suspended, and he will have a hearing, it will be for leaving his feet/charging, not a Rule 48 violation.

No Sleep 'til....Belmont?

by Anarcurt on Dec 5, 2011 12:01 PM EST reply actions  

What is rule 48

Success was survival and, kid, it still is

by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 5, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Head Shots

No Sleep 'til....Belmont?

by Anarcurt on Dec 5, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting

Considering Nino himself left his feet last week on Gerbe and wasn’t subject to disciplinary action.

Success was survival and, kid, it still is

by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 5, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

what do you have to do to get a head shot violation?

Tomahawk Nino in the head with your stick?

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by ArsenalLI on Dec 5, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe Cammalari

can answer that question for you……..oh wait.

by ghalbart on Dec 5, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably have to literally shoot him in the head.

Unless of course Matt Martin sticks up for him. In which case, no call.

by Les Beaver on Dec 5, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Matty Mo names 1st star of the week

http://islanders.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=604786

I didn’t know he’s #12 in goals since 2009. Sucks to be a hater of him now.

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by edavidmorris on Dec 5, 2011 12:01 PM EST reply actions  

*Named..

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by edavidmorris on Dec 5, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

And Jonathan Quick is the third star

There is something cool and interesting that I wanted to say about that, which I don’t believe anyone knows but I can’t quite remember what it is.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 5, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Didn't they go to grade school together?

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 5, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Pfft, NO.

Why would you think they even know each other? Their teams are like thousands of miles apart .

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 5, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

EXACTLY

The chances of them knowing each other are slim to none.

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by JW1970 on Dec 5, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, what are the odds of that.

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Dec 5, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Vote for MO here

Because surely he’s the NY player of the week … right?

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by Dominik on Dec 5, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Why is Sidney Crosby not that on that list?

“Not in the NY Geographic area” is a bullshit excuse when it comes to Sid, we all know it, so I’m not accepting that as an excuse. Besides, he probably flew over NY air space at some point, so clearly that’s more than enough for him to qualify. Sid. :) SID!!!!!

by Les Beaver on Dec 5, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

They only left him off

out of respect for Sidney Crosby.

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by Dominik on Dec 5, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Can I just say

that right now, as a Mets fan, I’m feeling just about as shitty as when I found out the Isles traded Ziggy Palffy to the Kings.

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by Fabtraption on Dec 5, 2011 12:49 PM EST reply actions  

More met fans will get to see Reyes now.

And they’ll be able to do it in April and October without freezing their asses off.
Marlins are getting a new stadium, but there is still the “lack of interest” problem. So, the new stadium will have a 90:10 ratio of Met:Marlin fans just like they always did. Plus, it will be cheaper to fly to FL for a game than to pay for lodge seating at shitty-dodgercentric-field.

The fact that he will be in the wrong uniform is irrelevant. Bottom line is that they were losing with Reyes, and they will lose without him… but they’ll have $100M more to spend on PITCHING.
…and that’s from a huge Reyes fan, that shouldn’t be posting his Met thoughts on an Islander site.

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by JPinVA on Dec 5, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

"than to pay for lodge seating at shitty-dodgercentric-field."

What does this mean?

Dodger stadium is the greatest place in the world.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 5, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Citi Field was until recently a shrine to the Brookyln Dodgers/Ebbets Field

It wasn’t until last season that the Wilpons actually decided to honor the team they own.

To echo JPinVA, it’s probably cheaper to fly to the actual Dodger Stadium than get decent seats in Flushing

by NYIPHL on Dec 5, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That's what happens when the rich guy ran the other rich guy to Cali

So he could have the stadium where he wants.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 5, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

honestly this is worse. In our lifetime we will never see a SS with a skill set like his on our team, that is

why it is a bigger loss than Wright would ever have been. You cant replace the offensive impact at that position.

by ATL Jim on Dec 5, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha!

“In our lifetime.” I love hyperbole.

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by garik16 on Dec 5, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey man

Maybe ATL Jim is 85. Don’t be an age-ist!

Success was survival and, kid, it still is

by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 5, 2011 3:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

without going too off track

If you are able to produce a talent at that level from your farm system and you are a major market team there is absolutely no excuse for losing that player. The Wilpons need to go.

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by ArsenalLI on Dec 5, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Wilpons need to go, but that is a bad contract. Despite loving Jose, I’m glad the Mets passed on it.

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 5, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

eh 6 years isn't crippling

The money may be a lot but if you are in a major market for an MLB franchise and you have a brand new stadium you have no excuse for budgetary constraints. The Mets are trying to claim they lost 70 million dollars last year. I’ve seen estimates they pulled 150ish million just based off ticket sales, which doesn’t account for merchandise, broadcast rights, parking, or concessions.

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by ArsenalLI on Dec 5, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

nor does it account...

for supporting MLB In buffalo… or enabling a multi-billion dollar ponzi scheme to cripple the “plant an ICBM a tree in israel” campaign.

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by JPinVA on Dec 5, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

:( As much as it sucks, youre right.

But ima sad panda.

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 5, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

me too

What really got me is that there was never any word of a contract offer from the Mets. Did they at least try to get him on a four or five-year deal or something? Option years?

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by mikb on Dec 5, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

100% AGREE

If Michael Grabner starts asking for Crosby money we can have the same debate.

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by JPinVA on Dec 5, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Who else are they gonna build their offense around? Wright and who?

They have been dropping payroll like crazy recently: K-rod, Beltran, Reyes, etc. and they aren’t gonna sign other “comparable” players with it. Wright isn’t that top 4 lineup threat he should be, Wright and Davis(when healthy) are the only 2 real 20HR/power threats on the team, we have ~2 real .360+OBP threats, no closer, etc. We are a thin team that just got thinner. And now the Marlins are revamping? The mets are gonna be in the basement of their division for at least 1yr unless they sign 2 quality hitters(.350+OBP/SB guy or 25-30HR threats) and a quality #2/#3 starting pitcher or quality closer. The mets finished really bad last year, losing a key piece is not the way to fix that. The Wilpons haven’t shown a lot of interest in Mets success with their recent moves, and losing reyes is likely the beginning to the end unless they get some big name guy to replace him(and Beltran’s 20hr+ solid OBP bat).

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 5, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Too much salary to carry...

The writing was on the wall when Chris Botta started working for SNY. How do you expect the Wilpons to pay both of those guys?
Be prepared for the NYT to go “paperless” soon.

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by JPinVA on Dec 5, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The Nanny huh?

Cant they fly in Ice Girls from Dallas, do we really have to hear those brutal accents, they sound like the Fuckin Nanny

Yeah because it would make so much sense if women right here on LI talked like Brandine Spuckler.

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 5, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

rec'd like my eardrums

when I hear fran drescher speak. Nicely done!

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by JPinVA on Dec 5, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

LMFAO

Unfortuntely, my kids tell me I tawk like the nanny…..but then again, they have never lived back home in NY, so they just hear a NY accent and can’t tell the different areas accents. ie I grew up on the island, my mom grew up in Hells Kitchen and Valley Stream, etc etc

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by JW1970 on Dec 5, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Unfortuntely, my kids tell me I tawk like the nanny…..but then again, they have never lived back home in NY…

LOL! I hear it myself, especially when I talk to friends from places like Canada.

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 5, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

LHH song / lyric tag

For easy retrieval … when our search function works again.

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by Dominik on Dec 5, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone have a picture of

El Cubano’s palm save?

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by edavidmorris on Dec 5, 2011 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

Beating Keith to the punch

NYIslanders NYIslanders
#Isles updates: Grabner is day-to-day with a groin strain. DiPietro is out with a groin strain, and there is no timetable on his return.
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by Fabtraption on Dec 5, 2011 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

So in other words

…we don’t know when either will return, although Grabner is categorically closer.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 5, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm thinking that Grabner is the reason they put Pandolfo on IR

It let’s them bring up another guy without automatically loosing Grabner for two weeks (in case he’s ok to go sooner).

No Sleep 'til....Belmont?

by Anarcurt on Dec 5, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

In other other words

they really want Grabner back, but no hurry, Rick!

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Dec 5, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

"no timetable" on DP

Oh man, the punchlines, they write themselves. I love following this team and I’m not being the least bit facetious about that.

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by Dominik on Dec 5, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Rick's reputation for being injury-prone

is possibly the best roster-management tool Garth has

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Dec 5, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

The Fortune Cookie

is it possible RDP has played badly this year as a subtle form of insurance fraud?

by Cary K on Dec 5, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you think at this point................

Has a form letter to announce the latest RDP injury. Just change the date and release.

by IslesinAZ on Dec 5, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

mad libs!

The New York Islanders (verb) that goalie (proper name) has injured his (body part). He will miss (number) games. The Islanders will (verb) (proper name) from (city) to fill their roster.

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by mikb on Dec 5, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

NHL.com says Fistric got a penalty on the nino play

but neglects to mention that this was for fighting matt martin after the hit, and not for the hit itself.

by EastsideIslander on Dec 5, 2011 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

...which I always find kind of funny

Is this how it reads in the NHL rule book?

“If player A hits player B and the hit is deemed legal, player A should only receive a penalty if player C roughs him up. And in that case, player C should receive an additional penalty so that player C is penalized more than player A, because player A’s check was deemed legal.”

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 5, 2011 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Per Katie phone hearing for fish-dreck

Which means no more than a 5 game suspension.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 5, 2011 2:19 PM EST reply actions  

take it with a grain of salt

BComptonNHL Brian Compton
Capuano on if Montoya has emerged as the No. 1. “We got quality goaltenders here. Al’s played extremely well, there’s no question.” #Isles
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Dec 5, 2011 2:21 PM EST reply actions  

Isn't that from the Saturday post game...

I guess Compton’s Tweet factory is running behind with all the holiday demands… Like telling non-NYers to go home after viewing the lighting of the RockCenter tree.

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by JPinVA on Dec 5, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

After a few games, he also said...

…that Mottau was playing “Extremely well.” Most Isles fans took exception for the use of “extremely.” I didn’t have a problem with “extrememly”; I thought the 2nd word was the one that needed changing.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 5, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

oh boy

StapeNewsday Arthur Staple
#Isles D Andrew MacDonald (right leg) on IR retro to Wed.; likely to miss another 2-3 weeks.
47 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply

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by DarthDoyle on Dec 5, 2011 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

I wouldn't count on Wishart...

getting to the NHL in an Islander uniform. There have just been too many opportunities THIS YEAR for him to make the team(see Mikle Mottau). I think if I was Wishart I’d have my agent pushing for a trade. From what I have seen in BPT he is playing well with the puck, just soft for his size. Considering that the other D with NHL upside have no size to be physical with I think Ty will be in Blake Comeau mode until they can either find a place for him, or his contract expires and they cast him adrift.
A simple scan of his youtube violent episodes will illustrate why he doesn’t fight. But much like Comeau, I can live with a guy who doesn’t fight… but letting other players toss you around like a 220 lb rag doll is not consistent with what they are trying to build on the island.
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by JPinVA on Dec 5, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't agree

Yes he is soft for his size, and slow, but did better last season than Mottau is doing now, and has a shot from the blue line and is a hell of a lot better than the overhyped, smallish, and fragile CDH.

by altosax on Dec 5, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't disagree with that...

I would like to see him up as well… but I think there is a redefinition issue. Eventually Cappy is going to have to eat crow on that one… but until then we could see Ness before we see Wishart.
I hope I’m wrong because Ness will get physically dominated by Gerbe or Skinner… nevermind the Flyer’s ice girls.

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by JPinVA on Dec 5, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, still can't believe Mottau is in an isles uniform and not a soundtigers uni.

It’s incredible. Somebody just eat that mistake and waive him already for a kid. No way 1 of the kids could be worse then Mottau has been. DeHaan/Wishart, almost anybody.

But damn, Ness is small. 5’10’’ 170lbs. Leave him in the ahl. Holy moly that’s one hell of a “risky” 2nd round pick by garth. I also find it hilarious that Hamonic was drafted after Ness by us, 13picks later to be exact.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 5, 2011 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh

Guess we got Reese for a while longer. And for whatever reason they seem loathe to add a seventh defenseman, so I half doubt there will even be a call up.

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 5, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Isles mostly at home in the next month.

They don’t need to carry a 7th defenseman, unless another one is injury-questionable, until the first week of January, when they have back-to-back games against Ducks and Coyotes.

Seven of the next 12 games are at home, to finish up the calendar year.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 5, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

FFS

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by Fabtraption on Dec 5, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Boy that sucks

I guess Cappy’s shot blocking strategy needs re-working.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 5, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Question:

If we had Mottau just lay on the left side of the goal line all game, to block shots from low glove or stick side, is that legal? Like, just leave him there for 60 minutes?

by Les Beaver on Dec 5, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

LOl

hey, we still got Al. knocks on wood.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 5, 2011 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 5, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

StapeNewsday Arthur Staple
With Macdonald and Pandolfo on IR, #Isles will bring up G Kevin Poulin and a F, Justin DiBenedetto or Tim Wallace, on emergency recall.
5 minutes ago

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by Fabtraption on Dec 5, 2011 4:19 PM EST reply actions  

Because our D is just perfect the way it is.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 5, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Wasn't there a trade in the works?

Reyes to the Islanders for Mottau.

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by mikb on Dec 5, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

reyes is probably a better player than Mottau

Thats not a joke

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by Zhora on Dec 5, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Reese+Mottau+Jurcina+Staios=All you need from a bottom 4 NHL D ;-)

I’m preparing for a lot of high scoring games or blowouts.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 5, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't worry, Moulson will save us.

I believe he scores about 4 goals a game.

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by Fabtraption on Dec 5, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

hey hey

I don’t even remember the last time we went 3-0-1 in 4 games

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by Mark D on Dec 5, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The Isles opened 3-1

That’s close, right?

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by mikb on Dec 5, 2011 4:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

March 5th-11th

W 5-2 STL
OTL 2-3 NJD
W 4-3 TOR
W 4-2 BOS

The last time they won 4 in a row was during the stretch they beat PIT 9-3 in February.

The Isles haven’t won 5 games in a row since Moulson became an Islander more than 2 seasons ago. (Can’t find the last time they won 5 in a row.)

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 5, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

They won 6 straight in February 2008.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 5, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Poulin's coming?

Hell yeah! Now we get to see his insane mask in action.


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by Chairman Meow on Dec 5, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Is it bad

That even Ice Girl Ashleen realizes Black just isn’t an Islanders color?

"Matty Mo thinks it's different. He must be extra high today." BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Moulson's response to Isles black jerseys.
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by Mark D on Dec 5, 2011 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

Just as bad as someone naming their kid Ashleen.

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by NSOsFan on Dec 5, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

lmao

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 5, 2011 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I figured

That was her stage name

"Matty Mo thinks it's different. He must be extra high today." BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Moulson's response to Isles black jerseys.
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by Mark D on Dec 5, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Question

I’ve seen people on here talking about RDP being gone after this year. How would this happen? Would they buy his contract out?

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by Chairman Meow on Dec 5, 2011 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

God GOD I hope not!

That would be the stupidest, worst example of organizational planning imaginable.

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 5, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

They are hoping he retires. The new CBA also isn’t too far off

"Matty Mo thinks it's different. He must be extra high today." BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Moulson's response to Isles black jerseys.
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by Mark D on Dec 5, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard a rumor of some talk of letting "buyouts" happen for a short period where they won't count against the cap or something like that?

That would fix the DP situation if Wang/Snow buys him out like that. But I don’t know if it’s just a rumor or a serious consideration. That would also help the rags get Redden out of the ahl and other teams with bad contracts. Ex: Buying out Leino :-)

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 5, 2011 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

same idea as the last CBA allowed buyouts with no caphits.

"Matty Mo thinks it's different. He must be extra high today." BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Moulson's response to Isles black jerseys.
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by Mark D on Dec 5, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe we should start using the Wheel of Discipline to our benefit...

Have him decapitate Sean Avery with his goalie stick…. suspended for life… PROBLEM SOLVED… actually… TWO PROBLEMS SOLVED. Like if Bill O’Rielly went murder/suicide postal with Glenn Beck.

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by JPinVA on Dec 5, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol, options to end DP's career "humanely". I kid I kid. I really wish he regains his form, but it's something more and more of a stretch every start and injury he has.

Could he possibly be a reliable backup at somepoint? Maybe. Starter? likely never again. That means we need to “retire” him somehow eventually. AHL him for the life of his contract works for me or “force” him to retire somehow look like our best options. I am running out of ideas though. I think one more surgery may give him the nod to retire though, if it eventually happens.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 5, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Well how would they get rid of him?
He’d retire?

If he cant play? Yes!
And if he didnt, he can simply be sent to BPT and have zero caphit until he changed his mind re retirement.

Buying out a player who is closer to retirement than he would EVER be to actually finishing his contract, and paying him buyout money for decades, would be an unbelievably dumb move.

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 5, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  


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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.

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