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Sound Tigers Report - The Education of an Islander

Editor's Note: This is Cary K's report from taking in the Sunday Sound Tigers game, a nail-biting 3-2 loss to Hershey with some controversy at the end.

Rather than continue the Sound Tigers Report blog I'd started last year it seems more prudent to just post updates here - Dominik does a fabulous job - one stop shopping and all - just don't turn into Wal-Mart, okay? (Oh yeah, Long Island, Malls, why am I an Islander fan again? anyway...)

Seemed a good day to take in a Sound Tigers game, with likely roster openings pending, the game today figured to be hot & indicative, even though a third game in three days - much more after the quasi-jump...

Star-divide

... where to begin? Let us count the myriad of interesting discussion points that emerged today in Bridgeport:

1) Referees Okay, perhaps as important as anything an Islanders prospect needs to learn is that you have to overcome not only the opposition, but at times, the officiating won't quite go your way either. At the end of today's game, the Sound Tigers had a tying goal denied as it had been "frozen" - it wasn't. And for no reason the ensuing faceoff was in center ice, and the subsequent clear icing not called. Thompson was properly livid. Good training for the young 'uns - get used to it...speaking of which, any word from Shanny on the Nino hit? Didn't think so.

2) Kevin Poulin made a number of outstanding saves, definitely getting sharper. The last two Hershey goals he was caught out on a bit, especially a breakaway where Keith Aucoin easily faked him out of his shoes, but then again Aucoin is the AHL's leading scorer, and arguably belongs in the NHL - still, Kevin's getting stronger and should be the callup if RDP misses time. Here's hoping Kevin can continue to stay healthy - he is our main netminding prospect - wouldn't it be great to have Montoya/Poulin for years to come? Wouldn't it be cool if today was Kevin's last ever game in Bridgeport due to success up top? That would be a very good thing indeed.

3) Forward March With the injuries to Nino & possibly Grabs, and the ineffectiveness of Reasoner, etc., there clearly could be one or more Forwards required in the near future. Ullstrom was the best of the bunch by far the last time I took in a game, but there's clearly more here. Lets look at these by category - we clearly don't have much offense (0-8 on the PP), but what we do have are:

a) The Two-Way Contingent That would be Trevor Frischmon, Jeremy Colliton, Tomas Marcinko (and probably in that order). Not just because Frischmon had two goals today - he was very sharp, and lets recall that he was one of the last to go down in preseason along with Reese, so he had endeared himself to the front office before. Maybe he knew something today, because he sure played like it. He was a one man wrecking crew on the PK at times. His first goal was a beautiful opposite direction, top corner wrist shot that was NHL worthy. Frischmon is better than Reasoner. Colliton plays a nice game, but he seemed to not quite have the energy today at times. He is the Captain - he might get a callup still, but am thinking he won't be the first of this group. Marcinko continues to progress nicely, and may have a future, but he has a lot of competition at his Center position, including Cizikas who belongs in this category as well, of course, but he is also the leading candidate among

b) Those Who Bring Intangibles And that would indeed be Cizikas, as well as Dibenedetto - both of whom I hope find their way to Uniondale very very very soon (did I remember to say very?). Cizikas has an unteachable game sense, and a lot of drive, both of which will be very beneficial. I feel strongly that he will be our next "bringer of the Intangibles" - this category of player has arguably been the most important in Islanders history, and so we have a lot to look forward to. This vitally important category includes the likes of Tonelli, Henning, Nystrom, and of course, the player who put us over the top (so I wish you'd all show him more respect), Butch Goring. Cizikas in his own way will be that type of player. Call him up now. Much like Hamonic last year, there just isn't much to learn in the AHL if you have it. He has it. Dibenedetto on the other hand is Pete Rose, Sean Avery, Bobby Clarke, Dave Schultz - the commonality being of course the unteachable art of getting under the opposition's skin. Justin drew numerous penalties and was a general thorn in the side of the Hershey Bears, and in a good way. I want him on the Islanders now. So should you.

c) And then there are those who are not ready - that would include Rhett Rakhshani (seemed to be playing hurt), Backman (had some great energy and has been heralded by Coach Thompson for it - keep it up), Tim Wallace (a nice fit for Dibo & Cizikas here - up top? not so sure), and the rest - Howes (sorry he didn't play), Gallant (nice fight), Riley (gutsy fight), McNeely (like his spirit - not sure there's more), Romano (was robbed by Holtby on his one shot)

A solid crew of forwards, with a lot of future Islanders, but not that much offense, and that's a good thing, because it makes the

4) Defense need to concentrate, which they should be doing anyway, however, these guys have a lot to learn...lets go one at a time....

a) Ty Wishart I'm really sick of this guy to be honest. He has size, he can shoot a reasonable snapshot, but he has no vision or sense on defense, and he often didn't hustle especially in the 3rd period, made lazy passes. He plays like he doesn't particularly care. My earlier statements on him stand. Saw him the first game he played with Bridgeport, and not much has changed at all. There's a reason he remains anchored in the AHL. He is probably at best an adequate #6 Dman in the NHL, but he's not as good as Jurcina -- Wishart makes too many mistakes in his own end, he gets lost at times, he's not a great passer, but he can fill space well, and contribute a bit on offense. I don't like his game at all. He retains potential, but it is down the road at best. Patience is in order - but if I were Wishart, I'd lose my patience more often on the ice, at the expense of the other team.

b) Calvin de Haan Finally had a chance to see this guy, and what a puzzle he is. He doesn't have the greatest shot, but its not as bad as some have said. He isn't the greatest puck carrier. He definitely doesn't have the size or hit like one might like. I have no idea what type of player he projects as, which is odd to say the least. But he has a nice sense of poise about himself that I like. A lot. He's a very interesting player, and one to watch. Might like to see him paired with Jurcina as a 5 now.

c) Matt Donovan & Aaron Ness Why are these two paired here? They project to be the same type of player, and have a fairly similar game. Ness has a bit more poise at present, Donovan is probably a bit better offensively. Both are already better than Mottau, and could be paired with someone like Hamonic or Staios arguably, but both will benefit from time in the AHL - would suspect they are both here until next year unless necessary. Oleksy by the way is a very nice pickup from the ECHL (as Howes is apparently as well). Thompson's ECHL experience given him a good eye for players who cna help the team, if not become prospects to consider for further - good stuff. Poor Klementyev continues to look forlorn. The wives and girlfriends did a nice job selling bracelets for Lokomotiv. (Who was that gorgeous woman who took my $10?)

5) Last but not Least, the Black Uniforms As for me, I think the Black jerseys are great. Why didn't they put Brigeport on the uniform as opposed to Sound Tigers? Bridgeport & Black supposed to be threatening or something? A missed opportunity - but I like them. Saw a study somewhere that Black & Silver jerseyed teams have some sort of edge.

That's all for now. In summary, there's some good ingredients in Bridgeport that could be quite helpful if sprinkled in properly. Not much help for the PP though. Happy shopping season.

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Thanks for the report

I know compiling that takes some time.

So if you were boss, who would you call up with Nino out and if Grabner can’t go Tuesday?

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 5, 2011 12:01 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks very much as well

We won’t replace the offense & speed Grabner brings from Bridgeport – our offense will suffer without Grabs to be sure.

Would bring up both of the Intangibles Guys – Dibo & Cizikas – and also elevate Martin & Ullstrom to the Second Line due to their fine play – and this would ease Frans down to where he argubaly fits best on line 3 (and gives him a bit more time for PP & PK) – Rolston arguably could be headed for the 4th line + PP duty – Cizikas can also PK

something like Moulson-JT-PAP, Martin-Ullstom-Okposo, Rolston-Nielsen-Bailey, Dibo-Cizikas-Haley

by Cary K on Dec 5, 2011 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Baffled in Bridgeport...

Dear Cary K,
Am I better than Milan Jurcina? This has been troubling me for months. I feel I am as good, if not better than this slow and hulking NY Islander defender. But yet he is in the NHL, and I am here… in Bridgeport… where I have to live on my signing bonus and $10 donations fans give me when I dress up like a woman.

Please help me.
Baffled in Bridgeport , dec 2, 12:15 PM

Wishart is likely at least as good as Jurcina

- never wrong… dec 3, 5:22

Ty Wishart I’m really sick of this guy to be honest…but he’s not as good as Jurcina

- never wrong… dec 4, 11:27 PM


Hey, looks like she took your $10 and bought a dog. Bitch! The dog, I mean. The gorgeous woman seems like somebody who could care for a man who is going through great turmoil in his life.

LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA

by JPinVA on Dec 5, 2011 12:19 AM EST reply actions  

stop being an ass

Wishart is closest to Jurcina – but he doesn’t hit anyone, so FAIL

and the wife/girlfriend in question was MUCH prettier and also VERY MUCH nicer than you

by Cary K on Dec 5, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry... just trying to be funny.

Also, you’ve made a lot of judgement calls on calvin deHaan. So I find it funny to see this statement.

Finally had a chance to see this guy

Calvin’s 20, and has been through a roller coaster two years. He’s going to get some consistency for a while. Same coaches, same playing partners and a year or two to find himself in the world of professional hockey. He was a top 10 U20 canadian defender at 18 and 19. His game is all about puck movement, positioning and awareness. But this is his first year in a game where his competition are in his peer group, to 30 year old guys hanging on to a fading dream. I don’t think the guys who traded up three times to draft him know where he is going to be yet… so…
I have no idea what type of player he projects as

…might be the most accurate statement anybody can tag him with. I’ve watched about 5 games this year, and he has progressed nicely. Both him and Donovan have been about where you’d expect them to be, though I did have higher hopes for Donovan earlier in his career. The lack of on-ice veteran support among the defenseman may not be the optimum situation for these guys… but the learning curve is shallow in the AHL, so come crunch time we should be seeing good things from them.
Patience!
And…yes.. i knwow I can be an ass sometimes. I apologize.
BTW: The Donovan/Reese pairing has history back to their USHL days. Both would be better suited, as you say(I think) with more defensive oriented D-men, but the tigers have what they have… and they are made up of mostly smallish puck movers.

LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA

by JPinVA on Dec 5, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

thanks

which is why I was hoping they’d bring back someone like Wes O’Neill as Wotton has hung up the skates apparently, but they aren’t a bad crew of D in Bridgeport at all. They clearly are running on something of a shoestring, but they’ve made good decisions on ECHL pickups and vets like Frischmon & Wallace, so Bridgeport is very competitive – and that will make for interesting games, and a competitive environment is useful for learning. Though of course the speed of AHL games is so very different. You can see why they haven’t called up any of these D kids – a full season together should be useful, though you have to suspect before long, someone’s coming up – we can’t have 6 D on the Island much longer without risking folks like Streit & Hamonic wearing down

by Cary K on Dec 5, 2011 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Pretty Damning Assessment of Wishart

Basically a poor man’s Mike Motteau, huh? That’s frightening.

by rmblifn on Dec 5, 2011 1:14 AM EST reply actions  

not really

he has the size & skillset that should have him in the NHL now – its all in his head at this point

Mottau would actually be a great mentor for the D kids if they could send him down – he’s more like Wotton than anything as mentioned the other day – perhaps Mottau has assistant coach potential and could be convinced by the team to make this switch soon

by Cary K on Dec 5, 2011 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I just get worried..

.. That the “future” of this team keeps getting promoted as being so bright but yet our AHL team is hanging out in 4th place of their own division and in the lower end of the conference

I get that the “future” extends much much deeper than just the Sound Tigers but does anyone else find it worrisome that most of the other NHL team’s “futures” seem to be winning more and more games in the 2nd or 3rd prospect ratings that the islanders continue to receive?

(I know this comes off as negative but I love this team and it’s meant to be truly just a point that I’m really worried about, not intending to bash the rebuild process)

by BaltimoreIslander on Dec 5, 2011 1:23 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

See "Starting From Scratch"...

Our post apocolyptic rebuild. Basically the elements of our future are from the 2008 draft and out with maybe 4 or 5 exceptions(Frans Nielsen, Kyle Okposo, Michael Grabner, Matt Moulson, PA Parentau).
They have had some luck with forward UFA’s in Moulson and Parentau. But with the exception of Marc Streit have had no luck in a shallow defensive market. So you have to grow those goodies in your own farm… which is near impossible when you start from scratch. You are usually looking at 4-5 years of cultivating an NHL quality defenseman from draft to an NHL defenseman. That’s why what Hamonic has turned into so soon has been so amazing.
They have some really good prospects in Bridgeport, but as I said above, it will take a little longer for them to progress because there wasn’t really a ladder to climb up. Wishart is the most experienced Islander (pro contract) defenseman and he’s on the Comeau express. He has talent to move the puck, but has almost no physicality to his game. I think the organization wants to avoid more Trevor Gillies type players at the NHL level, and to do that the players that make it there have to stand up for themselves… and be more physically aggressive. They can’t afford to have a babysitter for mid-level players anymore.
Patience. The Bridgeport team is responding well to Thompson, and they should be in the playoff hunt. That will be great experience for the young team they have now, and they shold build on that when they start getting the wave of players next year.
Unfortunately, they are going to have to depend on the draft and savvy trades… even the waiver wire will dry up as they move up the standings.

LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA

by JPinVA on Dec 5, 2011 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Thompson

seems to be a decent coach with a future – Bridgeport will be competitive.

Hershey is a decent team, but weren’t significantly better overall on skill than Bridgeport (unlike recent years when they were much better – the AHL seems to be experiencing its own form of parity) – the main issue is putting the puck in the net for the Sound Tigers, which should make this team very focused on maximizing their D – something Wishart, Donovan, Ness & de Haan all need to work on, so all good

by Cary K on Dec 5, 2011 8:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Fair question and concern for sure

I worry more than I probably should about the kids being on good Bridgeport teams. But at this point, as JP alluded to, there are so few of the rebuild pieces actually in Bridgeport yet. Ness, Donovan, de Haan and Cizikas only arrived this season. Ullstrom is in year two and already up with the Isles. Nilsson in Year 1, Poulin in Year 2.

When you factor in that next year’s team (BPT) could have Kabanov, Nino, Petrov (or name your wild cards) added to that mix, it starts to look more like a true team of prospect talents and the usual minor pros.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 5, 2011 2:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the writeup

I keep forgetting Frischmon in the shuffle. He’d probably be the best candidate to replace Grabs if we want someone who isn’t going to hurt us out there. From what I saw in camp (obviously not much), he seemed like the kind of guy who could step in and play solid, unspectacular minutes, which might be what we need right now.

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 5, 2011 9:39 AM EST reply actions  

Wishart

Some players “shape-up” in the AHL, like running an English muffin thru the toaster once and getting it started to be completed with the second toasting in the NHL. With this mixed metaphor I am trying to describe how we can prepare Ty Wishart. I believe he is a player that needs to be prepared completely in the NHL. Last years decent+ by him with the Isles illustrates my point. Others will argue thaat he had a flat camp and did not rise to the occasion when he needed to. I for one would rather have him as the next D call-up than an undersized, fragile,and overhyped CDH.

by altosax on Dec 5, 2011 9:50 AM EST reply actions  


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