Post-Game Plus/Minus - Islanders 5, Stars 4: Matt Moulson is a Beast, Al Montoya a Closer
by Dominik on Dec 3, 2011 10:55 PM EST
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PrintMark Fistric took one of those gratuitous leaping liberties at a rookie, knocking Nino Niederreiter in the head (and out of the game on his first shift, concussion-like symptoms) ... and received nothing more than a roughing penalty. Matt Martin jumped in and took the extra two via double-minor. That set the tone for what ended up being a wild back-and-forth (from a 3-0 Isles lead to 3-3 and 5-4 before the second intermission -- with Matt Moulson picking up four on his own. Repeat: Matt Moulson scored four goals.
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This is your spot for immediate post-game analysis, sharing your more sober pluses and minuses for the night. (Drunken rants are generally reserved for the game thread.) I have a few pluses: Matt Moulson, Matt Moulson, Matt Moulson and Matt Moulson. Also: John Tavares.
Rick DiPietro left after two periods with a groin injury and gets credit with the win, but Al Montoya gets the save. Michael Grabner also left the game in the third with a groin injury. Highlights and review of the leaping hit on Nino after the jump.
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Game Highlights
Fistric Jumps into Nino, Leaps into Shanahan's Phone Book*
*actually, nope. It was against an Islander during an anonymous game between two teams that don't draw well.
Leave your feet much?
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I mean
…that really got out of hand fast.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
It jumped up a notch
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 3, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
It did
Didn’t it?
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I saw that
Brick killed a guy
Fast and furious coverage of the slow and steady rebuild
by Chris McNally on Dec 3, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
maybe find a safehouse to stay in
Fast and furious coverage of the slow and steady rebuild
by Chris McNally on Dec 3, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
When do we get to mention the trident?
We’ve exhausted my reliable memory of the script here.
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haha the trident came after I said Birck killed a guy
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by Chris McNally on Dec 3, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Apologies to risenrule
I’m not all there at the mo’.
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Is it serious?
I’m just saw the score.
I'm a mets, jets, islander, and terps fan. Also known as a glutton for perennial punishment.
by longbeach on Dec 3, 2011 11:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Serious enough to leave after three shifts in the third
But we’ll see.
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What??
No points for my dead-on predicition of a PPG as the FIG tonight?? What a nice way to end a rtough road trip. They may not win pretty, but they win…
This is NOT a rebuilding year!!!
by upstateislesfan on Dec 3, 2011 11:09 PM EST reply actions
We'll consider everything for the recap
(This thread got published a little early … notes to come in the fuller recap)
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
As disappointed as I was ...
in last night’s result I’m equally thrilled about this one.
That was a ballsy, gutty effort by the whole team.
If they play that hard every night and somehow manage to get scoring from secondary guys even a little bit, they’ll win a bunch of games.
Now let’s see if Brendan Shanahan does his job on that gangster attack.
I haven’t seen a good replay, maybe someone has, but it looked like the SOB not only left his feet but nailed him with an elbow to the head but good.
Is that what I saw?
by dose on Dec 3, 2011 11:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Don't be so positive.
;)
Every view I’ve seen — and I try to be really conservative on these because I know fan emotion runs high — was a leaping hit with contact via elbow. He may not have set out to elbow him, but he MF-ing left his feet and elbowed him. (Video is above.) Don’t know how else to read it.
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by Dominik on Dec 3, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The way Nino looked after that hit
I’d say minimum 3-4 weeks on IR. That picture at the top of the page looks like he drank a bottle of tequila. That as a bad hit. His head bounced off the ice
by Strong Island Thuggery on Dec 3, 2011 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
watching too many of those Michael Imperioli commericals
Fistric should get three games.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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he may have gotten nothing but an ass whoopin back when men used to be men
but now he’ll probably get 2 games, and spend the time talking about hair tinting
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by Chris McNally on Dec 3, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If it's career derailing, it's time to hunt down Fistric and end his career asap.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Either one of those ...
things in the act of a shot to the head is supposed to be what Shanahan is cleaning up, right? Well then this Fistrict bum better get the proverbial book thrown at his ass or they may as well scrape Campbell up off the saloon floor and bring him back.
by dose on Dec 3, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If this game wasn't so close, somebody would have went after him hard.
Either Martin or Hammer or maybe even Staios. He looked like he was pissed
by Strong Island Thuggery on Dec 3, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
Moron Dallas Writer at Defending Big D Thinks It Was a "Clean Hit"
You know, it’s amazing the extent to which some fans refuse to acknowledge reality. Fistric clearly left his feet and targeted Nino’s head with an elbow. End of story. It was a garbage hit worthy of 5 games. And if an Islander did the same thing, I’d be saying the same thing.
And that idiot Dallas coach ought to go for 5 games too. If anybody doesn’t think they targeted a rookie purposely, there are a couple of East River bridges I have up for sale on email you might be interested in.
by rmblifn on Dec 3, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
You know, it’s amazing the extent to which some fans refuse to acknowledge reality. Fistric clearly left his feet and targeted Nino’s head with an elbow. End of story. It was a garbage hit worthy of 5 games. And if an Islander did the same thing, I’d be saying the same thing.
I agree with you. Islanders fans (and their writers) would just not defend something like that.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 4, 2011 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
That was insane
+Matt Moulson!!!
+DP sacrificing himself for the game
-Reese mental lapse
All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.
My buddy was saying he looked pretty healthy on the bench
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 3, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone remember The Wire when Daniels tells Prez what to say to the IA review board?
That’s how I picture Cappy talking to DP during the 2nd intermission.
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U could see he was so slow...Hes always grimacing...He was hurt...DP is so injury prone...
Everything that could go wrong with a 15 year contract has gone wrong..what a ridiculous risk on Wangs part…
And one day, Wang should swallow his pride and this man should finish his career in the AHL.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
he should play in Bridgeport until he shows he's ready
but of course, we’d have to take on more salary
again, Ricky taking one for the team
Wow!!
There’s TWO refs looking right at Fistric when he hits Nino. You’re telling me not ONE of them couldn’t see him leave his feet.
Unreal, man.
by barry_hal_oliver_24 on Dec 3, 2011 11:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Only thing I'd say in their defense
Even Butch Goring calls it a “big-time check” during the live view, but then after he sees the replay he realizes how leap-and-elbow it was.
Personally, when I saw it live I was immediately suspecting a jumping head hit, but I get how during game play it looked like a routine check along the boards that went wrong. Now let’s see how Shanny’s video room views it.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
At one point Butch talked about the recipient's responsibility to recognize the check and get ready for it
Does that fly in this case?
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 3, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Butch played...
when the guys were half the size, half the speed, didn’t wear helmets and somehow didn’t get concussed like they do now. Hate to tell you butchie: doesn’t matter if I tell you I’m going to hit you in the head or not, physics and biology don’t change… you’re gettting a concussion
I don't know
If I’m Nino I expect to get checked here — you just received an in-tight pass along the boards with the D-man watching. But an elevating elbow to the head? I’m thinking that’s what they’re trying to clean out.
Long before Shanaban came along, I was whining how it used to be you could throw a check with your shoulder or hip — none of this exploding upward stuff to take out people’s brains. What kills me is this was a perfect opportunity for a classic hip check, yest Firstric fistf#$s him in the head.
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by Dominik on Dec 3, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You Just Didn't See This Crap in the 70s and 80s
Knee on knee? Yes. Vicious slash? Yes. Questionable hip check? Absolutely. But this head hunting – started by Scott Stevens – is ridiculous.
Agree on Stevens
So revered, yet such a headhunter.
Honestly — and Stevens was a Blue, so once cheered him — what got me about him was how much he used his teammate as a screen/pick to catch a guy unawares, to basically gang up on him 2-on-1. His hits on Kozlov, even Lindros, he nearly takes out his own D partner in the process.
But even Stevens mostly stayed level and shoulder. Guys like Fistric jump upward.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Butchie did talk about that, but I also remember him saying that doesnt really apply in this case, since Nino did have his head up.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 4, 2011 1:22 AM EST up reply actions
Weird
some hack in the game thread thought it was a good hit for a minute too…who was that guy?
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You better change your attitude FOOL!
by Isle in Topanga on Dec 3, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
I'm in therapy
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Only one ref
The other guy is the linesman and can’t call that play.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Was just gonna say that after checking
And there were enough bodies in the way to give him plausible innocence. I still prefer refs not calling what they don’t see, and letting the league deal with videotape evidence. (If FIFA did this more, soccer wouldn’t be so filled with divers.)
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Amen to that.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 3, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Is there anyway
anyone sees the situation room in Toronto get more involved in calling penalties during games? I’m not talking nickle and dime hookings, trippings, etc. I’m talking about Match Penalties, such as the hit on Nino by Fistric?
by IDCWhoYouLike on Dec 3, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
The New York Islanders: where groins go to die.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 3, 2011 11:14 PM EST reply actions
+Isles 3-0-1 in last 4
+Matt Moulson
+Al Montoya the savior
+JT always solid
+Pap
by The Danish Backhand of Judgement on Dec 3, 2011 11:15 PM EST reply actions
A + for Keith Quinn
No idea Cablevision has this HD channel 414, until it was mentioned at some point in the game thread. Kudos to you.
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
He's drunk right now*
But I’ll make sure he gets the good news.
*I may be as well. Or maybe it was just this game.
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WHat do you think hic you’re be urm better than meeee?
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*sobs*
I just can’t ble-leeve you parded that Delta girl ’round right in front of my face. {sob, sob}
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Seconded
I was freaking out watching channel 99. I felt like it was 1980 and I was watching a game in my parents basement.
by CloseCallJiggs on Dec 3, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
That was patent Isles referee-ing right there.
You only figure 8 once.
by The Black Map on Dec 3, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
A+++
For Parenteau. Is this guy playing lights out lately?? Unsung hero of the top line, he really is a playmaker. For all the toughness, grittiness and sheer talent of JT and Moulson, P.A. is establishing himself as a force on this line. Isn’t it nice that the Rangers once again failed to recognize talent when they had it??
This is NOT a rebuilding year!!!
by upstateislesfan on Dec 3, 2011 11:19 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
you are joking right?
James T Paulson
by Jtpdolphins2009 on Dec 3, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
I mean ok some of this is due to being with JT
but when is it time to give PAP some credit for how he is playing?
James T Paulson
by Jtpdolphins2009 on Dec 3, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
no sarcasm font = no sarcasm to me
James T Paulson
by Jtpdolphins2009 on Dec 4, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
I think that particular comment
involving the coattails is auto-sarcasm at this point.
Don't make me bring out the Silky.
@sign before, then another @ afterwards, no spaces@
its pretty complicated
Id advise to use preview though, sarcasm font can mess with your posts sometimes.
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by TheMetalChick on Dec 4, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
you're already a master
Now go away.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 4, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
took you long enough to get it
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 4, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
its like getting a shiny new toy for Christmas!
by KO21 on Dec 4, 2011 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
put you comment between two @
Note: it doesn’t work in subject lines.
Result should look like this.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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What games are you watching??
He is delivering great passes in front to both Moulson and Tavares. Definitely NOT riding ANYBODY’S coattails!!
This is NOT a rebuilding year!!!
by upstateislesfan on Dec 3, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry
posted before i saw yours.
This is NOT a rebuilding year!!!
by upstateislesfan on Dec 3, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Haha
man, I would’ve thought it was assumed any PA criticism was sarcasm now too!
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by Keith Quinn on Dec 3, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
PAP's dad reads
Be careful, you don’t want to piss him off.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 3, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously
We’re at the point where no rational being thinks he’s riding JT’s coattails…right?
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by Dominik on Dec 3, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But you could argue....
their both riding Moulson’s
I just checked IPB
And I can confirm that the rationality has also made its way there. We can retire that meme.
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 3, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But I told lies...
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You know youre a first liner when
even IPB comments dont bash you.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 4, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Ex Rags over the Ex Devils
anyday. Parenteau is better then a lot of current and former Islanders
I'll thank them for PAP
But can’t imagine they’re losing sleep over it at 15-5-3. Plus, they can keep him out of all of the best nightclubs.
by Dorfer on Dec 3, 2011 11:27 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Don't worry
They will find a way to screw this up…they are the Rags after all!!
This is NOT a rebuilding year!!!
by upstateislesfan on Dec 3, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
lol. Funny thing is you could say the same for us about Luong/Chara/Bertuzzi/etc.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Prety sure
PAP just put his junk away on TV for his interview…well played you naked, assist making bastard.
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by Keith Quinn on Dec 3, 2011 11:23 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Wow, Hamonic sure likes to say "you know", you know?
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 3, 2011 11:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Im fine with both of them. :)
JTs just been thoroughly trained since he was like 10 lol.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 4, 2011 1:31 AM EST up reply actions
I love JT's interviews
The guy’s a pro through and through. I also thoroughly enjoy the other interviews as well.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
by Fabtraption on Dec 4, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Moulson
now 7th in the league in goals, with games in hand.
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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Also riding JT's coattails
I mean, also riding JT's coattails
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by Dominik on Dec 3, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Nice to see
Tavares keep his head up during this goal scoring driught…still doing the little things that help his team win.
This is NOT a rebuilding year!!!
by upstateislesfan on Dec 3, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
*drought*
This is NOT a rebuilding year!!!
by upstateislesfan on Dec 3, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, so now you're saying he's drinking too much?
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NOT HIM, ME *hic*
This is NOT a rebuilding year!!!
by upstateislesfan on Dec 3, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
I guess *I* am.
It looked like “drought” to me when i first read it.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 3, 2011 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
OH good
I hate to drink alone!!
This is NOT a rebuilding year!!!
by upstateislesfan on Dec 3, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
I was this close to jumping down your throat
how dare you…how dare you???
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Tootoo ran Miller in his 1st game back and Miller started throwing punches, big scramble. Multiple Sabres were throwing punches at Tootoo on the ground:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKIf3aYmBoA
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
holy cow
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 3, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How odd
I know Tootoo to be such a typically upstanding citizen.
If I were Miller, I would’ve dropped repeated knees to the vacant space where Tootoo’s junk should be.
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by Dominik on Dec 3, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
So how many games do we guess Tootoo gets? 5? 6?
Lucic should have gotten at least 3, and this hit “looked” worse then that, so I gotta go 5/6gms.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
But Lucic got diddly
and squat.
So despite the announcer reactions, do they give him anything? This is where I think Shanny erred. Just by logic, you can’t pretend goalies are accidental fair game or merely subject to in-game penalties, because shit, I’ll happily sign an ATO just to run Lundqvist into the Hudson in exchange for a two-minute or even five-minute penalty.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
But Tootoo hit him in the crease
Shanny has an excuse to give out a suspension here.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 3, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
He was in his crease this time
But I would have loved to see Lindback get pummeled the rest of the game after that. But I’m an Islander fan and that’s typical, sooo…
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Seriously
I’ve always advocated this even in rec hockey. “Sorry Anders, you seem like a nice guy with a wife and kids and a job to work in the morning, but maybe this will teach you not to let that douchebag on your team just because his toe-drag works every once in a while.”
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by Dominik on Dec 3, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wish that's how it worked, assholes of the NHL would be out of jobs in milliseconds.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Wait
the to drag works???
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In Midwestern Tier 4 beer league
Absolutely. At least once every six weeks.
I keep calling Comrie, but that singer wench screens me out.
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Have to make a statement now I think. A hard one possibly.
Maybe make Tootoo an example and give him 8.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Oh, great... Now nobody will pay attention to Fistic's hit.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 3, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It honestly looked like TooToo was shoved a little bit and was looking the other way
-and then collided with Miller. Besides, I can’t see him ramming into Miller when he has the puck and a potential scoring chance. Plus, it really doesn’t look like Tootoo lept up in the air just so he could hit Miller.
All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.
I mean no offense, but...
I can’t see him ramming into Miller when he has the puck and a potential scoring chance.
…that sounds like the rational thought of someone who hasn’t seen Tootoo be Tootoo for the last five or so years. He defines d-baggery.
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by Dominik on Dec 3, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lol, it's like saying Cooke wouldn't run a goalie on a breakaway. It's just expected from Tootoo given how he plays.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
I was trying to be unbaised
But player history is important; and Cooke has been “nice” as of late.
All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.
by pippup on Dec 3, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I understand, but it's like Lucic running Miller, it looks really really really bad in the public's eye for lucic.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Well, true
But, I was trying to be unbiased. He wasn’t looking at Miller and Erhoff’s hand was there, so a possible nudge. There will be a suspension though, especially after Lucic walked away scott free.
All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.
It was how he jumped into it that made me think it's Tootoo being Tootoo
When you’re running into someone you don’t mean to run, there are other ways to soften the blow.
(But I respect your view. I hate Tootoo with a passion.)
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Tootoo Perry'd Miller hard. Puck or not, you don't make your path at full speed going towards the goalie.
He didn’t even bailout, he jumped into him/his-head.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
I just found channel 604
and that has all videos of the post games and highlights and replays and stuff. SICK!
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by Keith Quinn on Dec 3, 2011 11:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Seriously
this had past highlights for all Isles games, and tri-state stuff broken down by teams, stories, etc. MSG interactive.
I hate that I sound like a Dolan commercial, but this is awesome.
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You are full of Cablevision nuggets tonight
What else you got? Is there a 24-hour ’86 Mets channel by any chance?
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 3, 2011 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
Keith is a Cablevision mole
Meanwhile, he’s been on SNY-IPB … a double-agent?
(By the way, I apologize for turning the plus/minus into a drunken riff-fest. I had to watch this game restrained all night as I had company over. I’m a bit hormonal. I swear there’s a sober recap coming suitable for Yahoo distribution.)
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by Dominik on Dec 3, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
SOBRIETY
is seriously over-rated!!!!
This is NOT a rebuilding year!!!
by upstateislesfan on Dec 3, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
O-ver-ray-ted
clap clap clapclapclap
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The GF
today called and complained that this costs too much money and the Verizon truck was next to our house, and we got like 30 bucks off and all of the movie channels back (no NHL network…which she may have planned, I’m still invesigating). Insider tip, this lasts for a year, then we are supposed to call and complain again…repeat.
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I hope FiOS gets the MSG channels in HD before my current Cablevision promotion runs out
Then I can make the switch back (for me, Cablevision is useless outside of hockey season), hopefully negotiating a comparable cost.
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 3, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
I have FIOS
I have been hearing for the past 2 weeks that they are now predicting mid December we will have Isles in HD
by Strong Island Thuggery on Dec 4, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
I hope so
Optimum has been bending us over the barrel, but I can’t make the jump until FIOS gets Islanders games in HD.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Just threaten that you're leaving
see my comment above…the GF isn’t even tough. Figured I’d have FIOS by the end of the afternoon.
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That is the go-to approach with every telecom company
They are basically in a collusive monopoly of shitty service, so the only recourse is to say Competitor X is giving you a great offer, and you’re ready to switch because you don’t enjoy 2-hour customer service calls.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
The plus-minus thread in general
Has gotten less plus-minus-y and more of an extension of the game thread. I’m just sick of giving JT, PAP,. Hamonic and Montoya +s, and RDP, Mottau and the refs minuses – same old, same old.
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 3, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
True
A separate +/- thread was JP’s idea (as was Cap Mule™, I neglect to mention often enough), so maybe he has something to say.
At this point, we get 1000 comments in the game thread, we sort of need an excuse for an immediate thread anyway.
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Got you
(And I was kind of being facetious about giving the same old pluses and minuses)
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 3, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I know
I’m just always open to people suggesting how they’d like things to roll here.
We have several masters:
1) SBN master
2) Yahoo/Google/Search optimization master (if you see New York Islanders in a headline, that’s why)
3) Commenters master
4) Readers who lurk but don’t comment master
5) Blogger whim master. Which is strong.
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That is pretty neat
Only complaint is that its not HD, but shit is that cool
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groin
with all these guys getting groin injuries, and the 500+ man games over each of the past two years, when are they going to get a new trainer?
They already did.
Grabner’s the first skater groin injury of this season, isn’t it?
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by Dominik on Dec 3, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
when?
garrett timms seems like hes been here forever.
Garrett "THE GROIN PULLER" Timms
Who you gonna call… “GROIN PULLER!”
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@JPinVA
by JPinVA on Dec 3, 2011 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think they brought in other guys to analyze the injury situation
Or something.
Anyway, who besides Jurcina has had a Go-Go injury this year? (And I don’t even count Jurcina, the big lunk. Nino’s was actually a nerve injury from a check.)
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You had me at
groin
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I don't care what the power rankings say, for PPG we are 27th in the NHL, 1pt off of 26th.
Hell yeah! Moving on up!
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
I'm sure the power rankings will move them up this week.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 3, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
11/26/11...write it down!
That’s the day the Isles started teh turn around.
+ Matt Moulson can tweet anything he wants now!
+ dylan Reese… two games, and he’s the Dylan Reese that we wanted to see. will be a good 6/7 guy when Macdonald gets back.
+ Al Montoya… #1 yet?
+ Grabner getting at least one break away per game.
+ JT “is a BEAST!”
+ Bailey shooting pucks. that line is so much better with Ullstrom. Now somebody needs to start scoring. That line should be putting up 2 goals every 3 games.. AT LEAST!
- Grabner missing on at least one break away per game.
- Losing Nino and grabner. Hopefully neither injury is serious. 5 games in, maybe this is a good time to assess where Nino will spend the rest of the season.
- I can’t believe cappy pulled his goalie with a 3 goal lead in the second period… he’s really unpredictable.
+ NO OT or SO… even though it was only one game in the past few weeks, I’m sick of shoot outs!
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by JPinVA on Dec 3, 2011 11:35 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
- I can’t believe cappy pulled his goalie with a 3 goal lead in the second period… he’s really unpredictable.
+10000000
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by garik16 on Dec 3, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
+1 to that +1
or something.
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Nino can't be sent down if that's what you're talking about given our cap situation with BC gone.
That is unless Eaton or Pandolfo or DP are on the IR the rest of the season.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
If Nabokov comes back and Montoya is healthy and not starting 75% of our games, F Cap and F Garth. That's really messed up.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
If _ (pick something) happens, then fuck _ (garth, Capuano, Snow, etc etc)
WTH is with the preemptive threats this season? Seems like a daily thing at this point.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 4, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
It's as simple as wanting to see this team win and not expecting anything less then giving the team the best roster on the ice to do this.
And Montoya playing as the starter will do that, or do you believe that Nabokov or DP are gonna play better then Montoya has?
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Im only talking about the threatening, hostile aspects posts, Ozzy.
For example, saying “I hope Montoya still gets most of the starts when Nabokov is back” as compared to “If Nabokov comes back and Montoya is healthy and not starting 75% of our games fuck the coach, fuck the GM, etc”
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 4, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
In Ozzy's defense
There’s been a ton of questionable decision’s so far this year. The eye brow has been raised for a while but with the winning starting to happen I’m sure well see less of it.
Constantly building for the future.
Yeah, I understand.
I just dont see what threats like that accomplish, personally. Even if you were saying it to the persons face (which I dont think Ozzy would do) I just dont think it makes as much of a point as discussing something and the reasons why it should or shouldnt happen.
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by TheMetalChick on Dec 4, 2011 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
yerdon thinks the hit was fine
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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 3, 2011 11:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I didn't think much of it at first either...
I thought it was a big hit… but on the replay it clearly shows fishstrick left his feet… and basically targeted Nino’s head. That is gonna get games.
I understand the refs missing the call… But I’m a little ticked at the isles coming out of it with the extra two minutes… and the shannahammer needs to hit Fristic on the head.
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by JPinVA on Dec 3, 2011 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Psst...
…that’s Mooney, not Yerdon. But I don’t see the “result of contact” bit. Yes, sometimes players leave their feet as a result of contact. Usually it’s because they’re leaping up into the hit rather than being Potvins about it.
Hell, Nino’s hit on the pocket locket in Buffalo was a leaving the feet thing.
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by Dominik on Dec 3, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, what's with "result of contact"? If you end up off your skates on a high hit, it's because you threw your body up/skates off the ground whether you were gonna hit the guy or not.
Not “as a result of contact”.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
It's simple though:
-he left his skates
-shoulder/elbow contact with Nino’s head
Cut and dry it should have been 5mins and should be a 2-3gm+ suspension.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
should be longer
this is exactly what they are trying to stop from happening
and Tootoo should be suspended as well for at least 1 game
Unless he has history
it’s two…and with the way things have gone lately, may be a fine. Which sucks.
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Are there exceptions? Was Bertuzzi a repeat offender when he almost killed that guy or was Simon a repeat offender when he gave Hollweg what some people thought he had coming?
I don’t remember.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Simon I'd have to guess had something somewhere
Bertuzzi I’m not sure, but still, those things were “pre-awareness”, so who knows.
I’m hoping for a little more, but it seems like the first one is almost a 2 game or fine type of “warning” that if it ever happens again, shit will get serious.
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Simon and Bertuzzi are decidedly pre-Shanahan though
That was the age of I KNOW HOCKEY Campbell.
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by Dominik on Dec 4, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He starts off pissing on Billy Joel.
Clearly not an Islander fan.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 3, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
I admit I liked that deliberate trolling.
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....
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 3, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 11 recs
Hah
Truth.com…..now please repost the “Immigrant Song” RDP Meme and I’ll goto bed a happy man haha.
You should've seen her face. It was the exact same look my father gave me when I told him I wanted to be a ventriloquist.
Can we send this video to Yerdon?
This is an example of a clean hit where the hitter goes up into the air as a result of the check. On a side note (since Fistric is now one of my most hated players in the league) guess who gets checked into the Penalty box? Enjoy.
by IDCWhoYouLike on Dec 4, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Good example
If the contact is made first then the air time is resulted by the contact. Fristic left his feet way before contact was made and it’s simple as that. I’m sure we’d hear some sort retaliation from our organization if Fistric isn’t suspended, it’d be a disgrace.
Constantly building for the future.
Plus to all of the above...
annnndddd….
+Ullstrom looks like a player He has a good release on his shot and it will only be a few games before he starts potting some goals.
by Isle in Topanga on Dec 3, 2011 11:49 PM EST reply actions
I like the guy alot
he plays hard and he’s been a major plus on that Fourth Line.
You should've seen her face. It was the exact same look my father gave me when I told him I wanted to be a ventriloquist.
Even if he doesn't score until January
I like what Ullstrom has brought to the table. Now if we can just get Rolston and Bailey to stop running into each other.
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we're back to Rolston picking his own players? thought he stopped with that noise
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by Chris McNally on Dec 3, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
Did you catch the one on the RW boards with those two?
I could blame Bailey, but Rolston’s the easy goat, and I’m of the view that the center is the smartest person on the ice and everyone else is just annoying peasantry.
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by Dominik on Dec 4, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Really? Bc I thought the Winger was the one sharp enough to hold down a specified position
while the Center, suffering from what most likely is ADD, is left to roam around the rest of the ice with no real direction.
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by Chris McNally on Dec 4, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I refuse to acknowledge this comment
because … wait, what was the topic again? Oh look: Bunnies!
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Look at how their noses wiggle back and forth!
Were we talking about something?
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by Chris McNally on Dec 4, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
The existence of Blake Comeau
totally disproves your theory right there.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
Or
It just proves BC should’ve always remained a center!
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Energy and defensive responsibleness, what more could you ask?
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
could ask them to call up a few more from Bridgeport who belong here now
including those healthy, mobile, capable defensemen
If Nino is out for a while or Grabs for that matter, it's Dibo time.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Although I do wish for another d-callup.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
This Wisconsin MSU Game is unreal
You should've seen her face. It was the exact same look my father gave me when I told him I wanted to be a ventriloquist.
by mikefromVA on Dec 3, 2011 11:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
what channel is it on?
James T Paulson
by Jtpdolphins2009 on Dec 3, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
It's Over
Just ended, Wisconsin won. Was on Fox.
You should've seen her face. It was the exact same look my father gave me when I told him I wanted to be a ventriloquist.
A+ for the NY Islanders
- Niedermieser concussed
++++ Matty Moulson is Golden
- – DP should not be playing. He is no longer the athlete he was. He cant fulfill his end of this ridiculous contract.
+ – JT working hard for his own chances but cant’ finish. But hes setting his team mates up, too, which makes him up for it
- Grabs groin injury
+ DP’s groin injury
+ Matt Martin gets a plus every night.
+ Ullstrom. I didnt know he was this good
++++++ 7 pts out of a possible 8 on the road trip…Thats awesome! They couldn’t get a win on thr rd before this.
++ Thank God for the “Big Cubano”…I’ve been a supporter of him being the starter since day 1…In a perfect world hes our starter. But this isnt a perfect world…This is Wangs World..
Wisconsin?
Well, at least you have Mark Johnson to brag about. ;o)
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 4, 2011 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
Hey, our hockey alum is pretty good- Heatley, Curtis Joseph, Chelios, etc.
Look at contemporaries, too: Craig Smith, McDonagh, Stepan, Blake Geoffrion, Jake Gardiner, Turris, Brendan Smith- these are legit NHLers coming out of the program.
Although I will say, I was there to see Turris’ one year as a Badger, and he wasn’t as good as advertised, but it was still exciting to see him.
I was messin'
I’m a big Miracle On Ice fan. I love Magic.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 4, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
Although I just tried to find some rankings, and I don't think we're #1 right now lol so much for that.
Man, I miss Wisconsin and college…..sigh, real life…..
Wait a minute
You were talking about a football game all this time?!?!
And here I was about to surf the high channels to find the hockey game you were talking about. I’m just a caveman, you gotta be specific about this stuff.
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It's my fault
I am ignorant to an oblivious fault about other sports these days.
Pre-LHH, I at least had a clue.
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Don't worry
I did the exact same thing you did.
by Dorfer on Dec 4, 2011 1:15 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I was thinking
“I’ll get to check on Jason Clark.”
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Montoya To DP
“Thanks for the two periods off,
………………………..Dont worry I got this”
by Alex Kinkead on Dec 4, 2011 12:21 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
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by Chris McNally on Dec 4, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions 13 recs
lol
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 4, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
stay cubano my friends?
James T Paulson
by Jtpdolphins2009 on Dec 4, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Screw Dos Equis
I’ll take uno W
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YES!
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who would you call up to be the back up for Montoya?
Nilsson?
James T Paulson
by Jtpdolphins2009 on Dec 4, 2011 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
if it's temporary? Nilsson
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
That’s primo work, my friend.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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a pleasure to do the plus/minus tonight
4 to Matty Mo
+ to JT for amazing passing. The puck just obeys his will. So good.
+ Ham-o-nack (in the Butchie vernacular), so steady and reliable
Even: Reese. The goal was nice but Job One is to lay a body on the guy in the crease – or at least tie up his stick.
+ Big Cubano with a splendid period.
- – - to Rick DiPietro. Two terrible goals, and then yet another injury. Neither he nor the Isles can catch a break with him.
- Mottau. He got that good game in yesterday and was back to abnormal tonight.
+ actually getting to watch the game
+ to the great commenting in the thread. You guys came up big.
- Injuries, especially Nino on that dirtbag play.
+ (anticipatory) Brendan Shanahan.
+ PAP: great game on the ice, hilarious pre-interview sequence in the postgame
+ Howie and Butch, telling it like it is
++ seven points in four games. Booyah!
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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mostly sober musing while watching the msg+ replay
was DP doing snow angels behind the net? Why do I get this awful feeling we’ll be seeing another player/coach behind the bench?
Shanny doesn’t hate us, does he? That’s a suspension, right?
Speaking of ‘staches: nice to see Eric stole Dad’s mustache for the month. Now THAT’s a ’stache, Josh!
Butch: “Seldon Shouray.” Seldon Shouray? Did someone say something about bong hits?
Howie: Moulson 2- Dallas 0
Butch: Don’t touch that guy Moulson, you’ll get burned!
End of first period 2-0 isles
by Bri On LI on Dec 4, 2011 12:44 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
The stache
I’d been thinking, even though he’s keeping it because his luck is now up to 10 goals, he really needs to keep it so he looks like Pop. Especially since he’s not on the Isles and doesn’t have the Son Of Nystrom pressure or anything.
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by Dominik on Dec 4, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"Seldon Shouray."
I heard that, too. Then, I swear, Howie said it later. Butchism are contagious!
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by PGI on Dec 4, 2011 1:56 AM EST up reply actions
oh its contagious alright
by the end of the game, I was saying Mart Mattin
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by Chris McNally on Dec 4, 2011 1:58 AM EST up reply actions
Back sort of on topic
+ Matt Martin, for recognizing instantly what the refs did not, and honestly not doing enough to deserve the extra minor. This is what sucks about the NHL’s love/hate relationship with instigating and enforcing: You’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t. For an extra minor, he could’ve killed that guy.
+ PAP. You complete me. Or that line, anyway.
+ JT. For keep on keeping on, goal drought or not. He just makes things happen.
+ Moulson x 4. But that snipe on the second goal is why he works on that line. You need someone who can finish quickly from there.
+ Cappy. Every time the Isles took a body blow, he threw Line 1 out there and they often delivered.
+ Streit, for lobbying the ref after the Fist-f#$% hit ,,. while remaining neutral, I’m sure.
+ Montoya. Played last night? No problem. Cold? No problem. DP? Problem.
+ Hamonic. For having to play with everyone, and for drawing Ott and the refs into the make up call for the Martin injustice. Ott is such a tool, it’s always great to see him costing his team.
= Reese. Nice goal but come on, buddy. Remember what we talked about with the whole defense in front of the net?
- DP. I know you care. I know you try. It’s cruel, this fate. But still.
- Grabner’s first groin blowout. Does anyone wonder/fear how long Grabner speed will look like Grabner speed?
+ Souray. LOL, I feel so good we didn’t sign you.
- Mottau. So, back to minus-3 then.
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by Dominik on Dec 4, 2011 1:02 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Wait is Reese getting a wash bc of his goal
or is that a double minus you bestowed upon him?
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by Chris McNally on Dec 4, 2011 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
Wash-ish
I mean, kudos for the goal, de-kudos-ized for the ball-watching on Nystrom’s goal.
And his goal was a lot of fortune, but hey, you don’t score if you don’t shoot.
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Hurray for being at the game
+ Moulson (very nearly had the natural hatty in the 1st, just missing a potential chip in from the side)
+ DP’s 1st period (Some nice saves, did well to avoid mistakes and play relatively conservatively)
+++++ The size of the steak DP is buying Moulson in the Stockyards tonight
+ For the whole 1st line. JT/PAP/MM ran around all night and were consistently dangerous, especially that 3rd goal coming right after the Stars had tied it up
+ Montoya comes in and delivers
+ Martin jumping Fistric right after the hit. Dallas wanted to play chippy and the Islanders came right back at ’em. Great way to set the tone for the night
- DP’s 2nd period. The kicker was when he tried to play the puck behind the net and just lost his stick
- Stars fans showing up to the game. Limited ticket availability meant I had to pay more than full price to sit in the nosebleeds. And then nobody showed up anyway…
+ 3 wins in the last 4, points in all 4
+ Me getting to see my first live Islanders win
by Dr. Copp on Dec 4, 2011 1:20 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Wow, I was wondering about attendance
Better than their average this year but still poor. Dylan Reese is a helluva draw.
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Tickets were hard to come by
at least through the online secondary market
But then for actual butts in seats? Not so great. The Stars’ insistence on variable pricing probably doesn’t help too much. Raining on and off all day today, plus some big college football on (Texans love their football), maybe changed the number of bodies some, but lots of empty seats
by Dr. Copp on Dec 4, 2011 1:30 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Limited ticket availability?
Limited to what? The 16,000 empty seats it looked like they had there. It reminded me of an Islanders-Oilers game around 99-2000 that I went to. They announced 5,000 and my few sectionmates and I wondered if they counted everyone twice.
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by PGI on Dec 4, 2011 1:59 AM EST up reply actions
It's been scary this year
Luxury/variable pricing in the lower bowl really mucks with things when a team isn’t doing well. I can’t remember even Atlanta looking as bad on TV as Dallas has with that empty lower bowl. I guess Phoenix has looked worse.
I really hope people come back with the new owner. It’s not like their baseball team is getting it done, mwahahaha (gratuitous Cardinals joke).
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I know why people don't show up to Islanders game
All too well, I’m afraid. But hasn’t it only been 2-3 bad seasons for the Stars, if even that many? It certainly hasn’t reached even Thrashers levels of chronic ineptitude. The Coyotes thing is sad because Tippett is ridiculous and has them playing great game-in game-out. I guess no one wants to commit if they’re gonna bolt soon.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
by PGI on Dec 4, 2011 2:09 AM EST up reply actions
It's true, they've had it much better
To me this is also testament to non-traditional/young markets and why you have to be in it for decadeS, rather than just a decade, and why the NHL has been short-sighted in choosing/approving owners in many of those markets.
When the Isles light some sparks after years of being fallow, you see fans come out of the woodwork who saw Westfall, and Gillies and Potvin and LaFontaine and Turgeon — or people whose fathers did. When the Stars bring back fans who Remember When, they are people who did not have a team in Dallas when Turgeon was an Islander (alright, he was just barely, but you know what I mean).
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
mostly sober, second period
I like Dyan Reese, but he has brain farts.
DP is a brain fart. But I hope he heals quick.
I’m dizzy. 3-3?
Eric Nystrom can score as many goals against the Isles he wants, sibling as we win the game.
4-3? The mustache stays until the playoff beard.
DP got shot by the same phantom bullet that took out Poulin last year. He’s walking sidestep on his skates, not skating.
Those guys banging on the glass are really irritating.
Nice to hear a Souray mistake leads directly to a Moulson goal.
Time for bed, a deep, sound, 3-0-1 road trip sleep.
by Bri On LI on Dec 4, 2011 1:24 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions 1 recs
Howie and Butchie were wrong about when DiPietro hurt himself.
It was a play before the one they kept showing- my friends and I watched the game (on delay) and we saw it, even rewound it, and wondered if he was gonna look bad after that. He did- and then after that came the time that they showed on MSG as well as the “hot potato” goalie stick incident.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
You're right
I saw that play – it didn’t look like he was going to get back up (more so than usual)
by Dorfer on Dec 4, 2011 10:23 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Plus: the top line looking like a legit top line. Wow.
Plus: The Isles smartly taking Rick out (or Rick asking to come out) once they realized he didnt even have the so-so side to side movement he usually has. Montoya can handle it- and…
Plus: He did. :)
Plus and Minus: Matt Martin being reserved and controlled in standing up for Nino, but still being punished as if he beat the everloving shit out of the guy. Plus for the standing up part. Martins a great kid.
Plus: Kyle is still playing hard, thank goodness.
Minus: No penalty on that leaping headshot on poor Nino.
Plus: The team mentality after that hit happened (AND the ISles not only didnt get the PP but were punished by the idiot refs)- the Isles exacted the best revenge possible- scoring multiple goals.
Plus: Team resiliency and determination. Hunger. I love seeing it. LOVE IT.
Plus: Reese scoring a very nice goal. No he wasnt great tonight but I actually see promise in him.
Plus: I love Travis Hamonic.
Minus: Grabner hurting his groin could be bad-bad, since his game is based on speed. Heres hoping its minor.
Minus: Rick looked alright to start, made some good saves, and only let up one goal- until that first weird leg stretch thing he did when he winced and was slow to get up. Like I said previously, it actually happened before the play that they pointed to during the broadcast. Poor Rick… I feel bad for the guy as a human being, a good-hearted human being who genuinely loves this team, but goalies simply cannot be this fragile and still keep their jobs. People who clamor for buyouts and go on about 9 years left need to relax… as sad as it is for him, reality is that the time remaining in Ricks NHL career is closer to nine months than it is to nine years. Theres no reason to hate the guy for it- because in reality, the Isles organization (wisely IMO) gave up depending on him to be a starter a long time ago.
Plus: Isles win. Again. In regulation. Heres to a genuinely kick-ass road trip. This team is doing some good things lately, and I am grateful to see it. Lets just hope that the Isles injured players are all healthy soon.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
You guys mostly covered it
A Big Minus – - Any ‘fan’ here who was happy/cheered/commented about Ricky not coming back being a good thing. I know I’m a Ricky apologist, but that is classless and something I would expect elsewhere, not here. I know the heat of the moment stuff, and I can kind of respect that, but, in my opinion, it’s not cool to wish/cheer injury on any player, especially one on your own favorite team.
Sorry, felt it needed to be said.
by billymac23 on Dec 4, 2011 3:12 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I don't wish injuries
But Rick looked to be playing half-injured before that, and he is not good enough to play well half-injured. (It took him forever to get up each time he found himself lying on the ice.)
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 4, 2011 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
Running Total and Defensemen Grades
Kyle 3, Post 2.
Streit: A-. One of his best. Very good throughout.
2.962 (24 games played)
Staios: C+. Good
2.267 (24)
Hamonic: A. Perhaps the best game any defenseman has played this season for the Isles. His 3rd period is certainly in the running for best period by an Isles defenseman. He didn’t just clear the zone time after time; he helped the Isles maintain possession as they cleared the zone. (Hamonic was a big reason this game didn’t turn into one of those where the Isles are scrambling in their zone for the last 10 minutes.)
3.177 (24)
Jurcina: B-. Through two periods he was playing at the decent level which we have come to expect from Jurcina this season. In the 3rd period, he neutralized Benn with solid body checks 2 or 3 times along the boards. He was another big reason Isles maintained the lead in the 3rd.
2.120 (15)
Mottau: C-. Sizable mistakes in the 1st and 2nd periods. Not awful overall, though.
1.886 (17)
Reese: C. I was going back-and-forth between ‘C’ or ‘C+’. If you have the game on DVR, take a look at the defensive sequence around 17:45 left in the 2nd period. What is great about that sequence is that he maintains body position on his man while he tries to clear the zone— and eventually does. At that point, I thought he was headed to a ‘B’ range game. Then he scored the goal. And then he made two big mistakes: a turnover (I believe) and bad man-marking in front of the goal. (This all in the 2nd period.) He did reasonably well in the 3rd. All-in-all a pretty good game, but perhaps the two worst mistakes by defensemen this game.
2.350 (2)
Not in action:
Eaton:
2.131 (16)
AMac: B.
2.694 (22)
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 5, 2011 12:29 PM EST reply actions
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1979-80
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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.
The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.
1980-81
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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.
Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.
1981-82
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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.
A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.
1982-83
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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.
Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.
