Islanders Bits: Gandering Elsewhere
by Dominik on Dec 29, 2011 12:17 PM EST
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Jack Capuano named Evgeni Nabokov tonight's starter, and Brian Rolston is definitely back in the lineup with the lines last seen at practice Wednesday. For the game preview thread, go here.
Otherwise, here are some fun snippets from Elliotte Friedman's "30 Thoughts" column this week, followed by some other good hockey links.
First, this reminded me of too many "identity" conversations:
[a player] was saying his (struggling) team needed an identity. Then, he went on to list some teams that did have one. "You know that Boston is going to pound you and make you pay physically. You know that Chicago is going to dare you to try and skate with them. You know that Vancouver is going to try to get you to take penalties and make you pay on the penalty kill. And you know that Detroit is going to turn the other cheek while winning all of the one-on-one battles." Then, he added, "We need to be more like the Red Wings."
Sounds like a Western team (Columbus?), but otherwise it sounded familiar. Then this:
I remember a conversation with [Bob] Gainey, who was Montreal's GM the night [Ron] Wilson coached his first game with the Maple Leafs. Asked how long it would take for Toronto to rebuild, Gainey said, "Six years." We're at three-and-a-half. Honestly, the team is probably where it should be.
Heh. So...what do people think of six years?
Islanders Links
- If you missed this in the morning thread: Blake Comeau is finding his stride in Calgary, and pleased to be on a playoff contender | Backhand Shelf
- From the official site: New York Islanders share their World Junior memories: Part II
- And: Ken Morrow enters the Isles HOF Saturday. Here's video of him talking about how his style developed.
- And: Matt Martin visits Cantiague Park. (I don't normally do the community links, but everybody loves Martin, so...)
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David Ullstrom is officially on IR, but retroactive enough that he'll come off at any time.
- Oh, has Marc Fistric messed people up before? [video] and Shea Weber's agent upset Fistric hit unpunished
- Bruce Ciskie has Brock Nelson on his third-team mid-season All-WCHA list.
Hockey Links
- 24/7 Stuff: 10 memorable phrases from HBO 24/7 episode three | ProHockeyTalk. Here's our 24/7 chat from last night. And here's praise for Lavi: As if you didn't think Peter Laviolette was awesome enough - Broad Street Hockey
- Also: Flyers GM on Bryzgalov: "He has to get better" | ProHockeyTalk
- Concussions: Lindros says the game's too fast. TheScore explains the Quiet Room
- Inside the NHL's replay situation room.
- Ryan Whitney's ankle situation in Edmonton sounds pretty awful.
- Question: If the NHL has another stoppage, will you come back? 20 Questions: Fehr drawn to NHL players | National Post
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Sign him up...
He looks more accurate than Rolston already:
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 29, 2011 12:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The other team can tell him that his mother dresses him funny.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 29, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
that black jersey definitely makes him look bigger
sign him up
You wouldn't believe how good the Corsi is for my NHL 12 Be A Pro player.
by ArsenalLI on Dec 29, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What a thrill it must be for that kid
I wonder how you get that gig. I hope it’s for charity, and not because some parents have more money and pay for it.
Regardless, it must be cool to be him.
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 29, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
I feel sorry for that kid having to don an Islanders jersey!
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Dec 29, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
I hope his parents had the money...
and are spoiling him rotten. There, I said it…
Penn State Proud
I have no problem with paying for it.
They shouldn’t have less rights because they have more money. I’m just hoping the TEAM gives all kids a chance, and not just rich ones.
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 30, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Thats Rolston
watching him from behind. No, wait, it’s just a traffic cone!
Positive Waves! Indianapolis Racers (1974-1978)
by skeeterman on Dec 29, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
"Rec"ing a post for some reason now looks like a "flag" at first, but it really isnt... so no worries. :)
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 29, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
This just in!
Garth has signed the traffic cone to a 1 year, $5 million contract for the 2012-2013 season.
by GreekIsles83 on Dec 29, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
From Cap Mule to Cap Cone! Priceless!
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Dec 29, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Heh... cap cone. LOL!
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 29, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going to hangout in this thread
Apparently I got it all out of my system bc the negativity is starting to wear on me.
Totally agree with Lindros. I remember back in the day when a hooking penalty was the act of actually “hooking” someone to the ice with your stick. Now a days if you tap someone in the midsection with a stick they call you for hooking.
The attempt to counteract the trap by limiting obstruction has turned hockey into a dangerous game. I remember in the 80’s they didn’t have all of these ridiculous obstruction penalties and teams were still scoring a combined 8 goals a game. Some guys were still even skating around without helmets. I didn’t have to hold my breath for 2 100 point scorers every year.
Something has to be done, bc players are dropping like flies and scoring, which is the whole reason for these changes, has not come back like it should have.
Garth Snow's slow and steady rebuild is just an excuse for a nickle and dime roster
Phil Espositio once said.........
The worst thing that the NHL did was to make helmets mandatory. He went on to say guys will feel ok hitting someone in the head with a stick. A false sense of security has evolved over the past 25+ years. Back then when guys played without helmets, players were more cautious about going anywhere near the head, now-a-days not so much. Is there coloration between helmets and an increase in concussions?
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Dec 29, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
I talked to Rich Pilon one time
and he said the same exact thing. There may be some truth to it. But good luck getting that rule lifted.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
ALSO, lack of scoring
Has a lot to do with the size of goalie equipment used today. Just look at goalie pads today as opposed to yester-year.
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Dec 29, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
My dad was saying this
when we were discussing concussions I mentioned the obstruction rules. He said they should cut down the size of pads, and I agree. The glove and blocker too. I remember when I started playing, the blocker was called a waffle and the catching glove not much bigger than a baseball mitt. The size of all the goalie equipment nowadays is absurd.
Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!
by Chris McNally on Dec 29, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Problem is
then you should probably get rid of the composite sticks too…because guys shoot much harder now. Also, you should take into account how hard the elbow and shoulder pads actually are with the hard plastic shells on them. Back when pads were just, um, pads, you still risked injury on yourself by making dangerous hits (and blocking shots)…now not so much.
I wonder what the blocked shot totals look like over the evolution of equipment. I’ll bet it’s gone up dramatically and also has helped to drive down scoring a lot.
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by Keith Quinn on Dec 29, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Very true
Im sure guys arent as hesitant to jump in front of shots with the evolution of their pads. The composite sticks should be scrapped regardless. I don’t know if theres even a statistic on this, but they HAVE TO break way more often during game play then the original wood sticks did.
Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!
by Chris McNally on Dec 29, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Not as hesitant
Hell, they’re taught and expected to do it and have special skate gear to make it easier.
Agree the obstruction enforcement — which I long called for — is probably part of the problem. I enjoy this game so much more than the 90s era slog-it-out sled hockey, but they need to keep investigating the health issue.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Also: Composite Sticks
I posted something a few days ago on this subject: I would be in favor of our PK team switching their composite sticks for wooden ones. It seems too frequent for my tastes that a D-man breaks his composite stick at the worst time on the PK. Once the PK is done they can take their composite sticks back.
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Dec 29, 2011 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
not size so much as quality
Not that size isn’t a factor, but that old stuff was little better than the sorts of things we wore as kids when we couldn’t afford gear.
Leg pads: hugely heavy, especially once they absorbed all that sweat and cold water during the games. Damned hard to flash a pad on crossing patterns, even worse trying to get back up if you went down.
Chest pad: essentially a quilted, long-sleeved jacket, sometimes supplemented with a catcher’s chest protector.
Catching glove: like a first-baseman’s mitt, with the cuff from a regular glove designed to protect the forearm, not giving any additional blocking surface.
Blocker: at first little-to-no different than a player’s glove… then essentially a padded mitt sewn to the waffle board, with none of the thumb, finger, and forearm coverage.
Stick: made of wood and flat-bladed.
Helmet: as recently as the 70’s, there wasn’t one – just a mask and a backplate with no throat protection. (And before then, not even that much.) The earliest helmets were just player helmets with large cages.
IOW, if the puck hit you, it stung like a sonofabitch and you were not nearly as mobile and agile as you could be. One major reason the gear was relatively small was that having stuff any bigger would just slow you down way too much. My first leg pads probably weighed as much as the entirety of my gear does now, and I can only imagine how much a Bobby Hull slapper must have hurt if you caught it off the shoulder or collarbone.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Im all for protecting the body
and the chest pad should be thick and even the leg pads should have thickness and protection to them. But do they have to be so wide? Couldnt you cut inches off the sides but still allow for personal protection. Plus like you said the glove was like a first baseman’s mitt. I feel like the present day glove could be made smaller while still allowing to protect the goalie’s hand.
Either that or heres a radical idea, keep the equipment the same and add an inch or two all around to the net. Personal protection shouldn’t be a substitute for overall skill. I feel like some goalies just fill the net as opposed to being an actual solid goalie.
Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!
by Chris McNally on Dec 29, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
They're restricting sizes and stuff now
Just wasn’t much of an issue before because nobody could wear anything too outlandish. It’s one of those deals where people took advantage and forced rules to be imposed.
As far as I can discover, leg pad maximum width used to be 10 inches, so going back to 11 is a step in the general direction. Also, they have a maximum thickness from the face of the pad back to the calf protection, and the blocker is the same way. The chest protectors is where it really got out of hand, and the guidelines were tightened up considerably.
Eventually the league may have to stretch the nets a touch. They can only shrink the gear so much, and they can’t shrink the goalies at all – when I was 22, I was a fair-sized keeper at 6’ 0" (and my armspan is wider than that). Now I’d be considered a mite short.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Yeah, that's a big thing too
goalie size that used to be 5’8" 160 lbs to some now at 6’5" 240 is ridiculous. The bodies themselves take up a shit ton of net…and it’s knoid of stupid to legislate “pad size” if doing so leaves a bigger guy more apt to get hurt.
Maybe everyone should have a different size net that’s proportional to your goalie’s dimensions!
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Or maybe the restriction should be on a goalies actual size
Nobody taller than 6’ 1" or weighing more than 230 lbs.
Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!
by Chris McNally on Dec 29, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
Bring Back
The Two Line Pass rule.
There may be more whistles, but guys won’t kill each other anymore for the puck.
Also, offensive players won’t risk leaving their D men to hang out to dry.
Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!! Come, Get some respect a Professional team deserves!!
Eff that
as a Grabner owner…I’d rather have hooking back. He may be completely useless if the two-line pass is back!
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You're right!
Imagine all the unconverted breakaway chances the Islanders would miss out on!
by GreekIsles83 on Dec 29, 2011 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll take
Grabner converting on 1-in-10 breakaways over not getting any breakaways at all.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
I don't know if they can restrict the sizes anymore
but having smaller pads might just lead to an ability to find the puck after it hits you. How many times have we as fans, not matter the game, seen Dominic Hasek like flailing about in the crease because they don’t know where the puck went after it hit them?
by IDCWhoYouLike on Dec 29, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
whew much calmer on this post
That snow video did work up the fire and brimstone!! hahaha
I think we’ll all be a lot happier (and hipper) in Brooklyn
I think as much crap as we have gone through
And bit our tongues, we can have one vent thread.
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 29, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
much deserved vent thread
If we were in Toronto or Vancouver or Montreal martial law would have been called
Truth
Airing of grievances.
Sorry I haven’t been around for most things lately (that might be a good thing actually?). The reaction to the Snow video both took me off guard and fascinated me. (For me, zilch changed about this team and its situation yesterday.)
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I'm still holding out for Suffolk
They seem less like Islanders the closer they get to Manhattan.
Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!
by Chris McNally on Dec 29, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
It would be colossally and monumentally stupid to move to Suffolk. The redundancy is for emphasis.
=d
In not saying your not correct in that assessment
but do you have any actual reasons for that?
Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!
by Chris McNally on Dec 29, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed
It moves the team away from the largest population center in the country to an area that is even less accessible than the current pitiful location.
=d
How do you figure
if it was built along one of the three major LIRR rail lines, would it be even less accessible than its current pitiful location?
Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!
by Chris McNally on Dec 29, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Because (just ball-parking this), isn’t the “closest” Suffolk location on the LIRR more than an hour ride from Penn? Plus you’d have to literally put the areener right next to the station because there is otherwise no infrastructure whatsoever to get people anywhere else. I just don’t see that happening.
Look, plenty of Isles fans work or live in NYC — putting the team in Brooklyn/Queens means that they can conveniently go to a game after work, whereas now it’s all but impossible. Moving the team to Suffolk completely eliminates that possibility.
I can’t see a single conceivable benefit to Suffolk, honestly.
=d
It would have to be pretty damn close to the LIRR station, yes
but it would be a huge benefit if it happened. Just nostalgically, moving the Islanders into NYC ruins a lot for me. They’re ISLANDERS, and while you can play semantics about Queens and , uhh, Kings being part of Long Iland geographically, everyone knows that Long Island is truly Nassau and Suffolk. The Islanders are the only real Big 4 sports team Long Island has and I’d hate to lose that.
Of course, if a move to Queens or Brooklyn was the only way to keep them in NY, obviously I’d be for it.
You said you can;t see a conceivable benefit to Suffolk, but what if Suffolk gave us a local government that would green light the building of an arena for the Islanders? That’s a lot more than we would have in Nassau. I think that would be a largely conceivable reason.
Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!
by Chris McNally on Dec 29, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Well, there is a reason that there are no major sports teams located in the suburbs . . . and that is because it is a terrible place to put one. Moving from Nassau to Suffolk is the wrong direction. You think attendance is bad now? Try cutting it in half.
=d
by AP77 on Dec 29, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Have to agree
once the novelty wore off, it would be putrid. I live in Nassau, and honestly, wouldn’t bother trying to head east during rush hour to try to get to a game in a car. You have to also figure that even if it is close to a rail line, it would only be close to one of them.
Anyone else would have to change at Hicksville or Jamaica right? So for instance, if I live in Roslyn, and I want to see the Isles in Brentwood, I would have to go to Jamaica, then to Brentwood. That sucks.
I think that’s how it works anyway…there is no North/South or singular destination point from all three lines except those main hubs.
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Im thinking as a sports fan in Suffolk I guess
but to get to a Mets game I have to drive an hour. Theres only one LIRR line that goes to Citi, I have to transfer. I have to sit in rush hour traffic now once i hit the Northern State and then Meadowbrook if I want to go to the Coliseum. Even worse once I get passed the Cross Island on the LIE if Im going to the Mets game.
No matter where you put this thing, its not going to be ideal for everyone. I get that there are more people further west, and that’s why a move out there would make more sense.
I just find it funny that all the things people find as a problem are the things Suffolk sports fans have to deal with all the time.
Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!
by Chris McNally on Dec 29, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
you're correct its an inconvenience for someone. But there are LESS PEOPLE in the Suffolk than closer to the city.
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by garik16 on Dec 29, 2011 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
No need to scream your 'less people'
because I admitted that exact point in the post you responded too
Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!
by Chris McNally on Dec 29, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry. But it's a point that is repeatedly ignored by the Suffolk fans seemingly.
Another such point is the potential fanbase in Manhattan, consisting of people like myself post HS and College who grew up on LI but moved to the City….and now can’t get to any games.
More convenient for us to move near a station closer to the City (though by any LIRR station at all will be an upgrade there, presumably.)
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by garik16 on Dec 29, 2011 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah. I also calculated that a Babylon train station in "far western" suffolk from penn station takes almost 1hr 30mins to get to during normal trip time.
So, 7PM start time, 9-5er’s in the city have about 30mins to leave from work to get to penn to “barely” make it in time to see the puck drop at a babylon stationed islanders coliseum. Suffolk is a bad idea for numerous reasons imo. Brooklyn or Queens near a train station would be the best, definitely better then nassau and I’m a nassau resident too.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
And
they should push start times back to 7:30. 7pm is kind of a problem for anyone that needs to get home first and then go back out.
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by Keith Quinn on Dec 29, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Precisely...
why I gave up my season tickets. I was getting to games halfway through the 1st period, if I hurried my ass off. Got to be too much work.
by CloseCallJiggs on Dec 29, 2011 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously
Who does 7 pm starts help exactly?
(I mean, besides me getting to gorge on NHL hockey all night from 6 to midnight.)
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Supposedly its "for the kids"
It was generally parents of young kids who were bitching about 730 starts, saying that games end too late when theres school the next day.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 30, 2011 5:19 AM EST up reply actions
7:15?
Split the difference.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Doubtful
7:15 screws up all the TV times. They like nice round numbers like :00 and :30.
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by Keith Quinn on Dec 30, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
So sayeth both the Islanders and Mrs Lovejoy:
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 30, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
I hear you
it is a reverse commute now though. Still bad because it’s LI, not the worst because it’s east to west (except during that time in the fall when the sun is so bright, nobody can drive worth a shit).
Basic issue (everywhere) is that infrastructure improvements should be made everywhere. There isn’t an effective way to get anywhere on LI even during low traffic times…during rush hour, it’s a cluster eff. They should be building an upper deck on the expressway and the Norhtern and SS parkways…or making high speed rail service just about everywhere.
But nope, that would create jobs and stimulate economies and be all “convenient” and shit. Idiots. Boy, what everyone in NY could do with having 5 hours (minimum) of their week back in lost commute times to work, stores/shopping/school/soccer etc….
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by Keith Quinn on Dec 29, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This.
We have a super media market because of the CITY. Suffolk takes us further away. Unless it has super convenient LIRR access, Suffolk is terrible.
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by garik16 on Dec 29, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
QUEENS
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Dec 29, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Looking at that college list
Where’s Anders Lee? IS he still doing well?
Also, we should try and sign this Jack Connolly kid of UMD.
UVa Student. Twitter: @ericdavidmorris
Lee has 12 g, 20 pts in 20 games
leading the team in goals by 5 goals, second on the team in points. Still looking solid.
Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!
by Chris McNally on Dec 29, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
But has considerably slowed down?
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by edavidmorris on Dec 29, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hes still 3rd in the CCHA in scoring
He may have slowed down a bit, but he was playing out of his mind to begin the season. No way anyone could’ve kept that up.
Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!
by Chris McNally on Dec 29, 2011 6:23 PM EST up reply actions
Wasnt he OVER a goal a game for like the first 10 games?
It was ridiculous
"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992
Set your DVR
Versus/NBCSports have the BU/Notre Dame Game on at 7pm Saturday.
No Sleep 'til....Belmont?
Word
Will be in Atlanta saturday night for UVa bowl game.
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by edavidmorris on Dec 29, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Different conference
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
True story
I had a dream last night that the Islanders waived Moulson and he was picked up by the Rangers. The Isles then brought back Yashin and Pat Flatley.
=d
by AP77 on Dec 29, 2011 2:51 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Sooo, I miss Laviolette.
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by garik16 on Dec 29, 2011 2:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I thought it was Aucoin and Jonsson that didn't like him?
Never knew RDP had a problem with him. I liked Lav as well, but all I remember is him rolling out 2 D pairings tops and using 1 guy for 30+ min haha. Could you imagine Hamonic’s Minutes if Lav was the coach?
You should've seen her face. It was the exact same look my father gave me when I told him I wanted to be a ventriloquist.
I thought it was two factions
Laviolette/Peca vs. Yashin/Blake and Milbury/Wang chose the guy making $8 bajillionty a year over the captain and the coach.
Was DiPietro involved?
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by PGI on Dec 29, 2011 3:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh?
I thought I had read somewhere that RDP didn’t like Laviolette and that Wang therefore kicked him to the curb.
Could be wrong though.
=d
Yup, you are wrong.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 29, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
;)
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 29, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
In any event, the wrong choice was made. Shocking.
Laviolette/Peca: 3 Cup finals between the two of them
Yashin/Blake: one 67-year-buyout and one free agent contract so asinine, you’d think Charles Wang had signed it.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
by PGI on Dec 29, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Too long to remeber,
All I knew is that there was some head butting behind the scenes. I thought Aucoin was one of the main guys that had a problem with him, but I could be wrong and this stuff isn’t documented.
You should've seen her face. It was the exact same look my father gave me when I told him I wanted to be a ventriloquist.
Laviolette/Peca vs. Yashin/Blake and Milbury/Wang chose the guy making $8 bajillionty a year over the captain and the coach.
Yup, you are right.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 29, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
WTF?
DiPietro and Lav had zero problems.
Rick was not even around a lot of that time.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 29, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
You’re weighing in on a RDP issue? Shocking! :)
=d
by AP77 on Dec 29, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
lol
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 29, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Should we make pretend that he was the goalie and that Snow and Osgood werent here just to make you feel better?
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 29, 2011 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
He did put a smiley emoticon next to it
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 29, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yup he did- but him and his hanger-on "lol"ing below him are not really joking.
Whenever I say anything at all about Rick DiPietro- anything- I get these stupid fucking comments.
Im not going to act like I think they are funny because its just fucking annoying.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 29, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Aww, you haz anger
Here, this will help:
=d
by AP77 on Dec 30, 2011 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Laviolette
Has all the external/superficial things fans look for in a coach … and happens to be a good coach, too.
Sigh.
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well if 6 years is the real turn around time for a franchise
why all the anger, lol. Eh, maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel…or a train. How bout a win tonight, I mean it is the return of Rolston?
Yeah, we should win one for the gimper
Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!
by Chris McNally on Dec 29, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Gimper
These are the Islanders. You will have to be a little more specific. #IslandersLeg
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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I guess I granted Rolston the gimper’s cane just bc it was his return. That can gets passed around the clubhouse more than that blue fireman’s hat does
Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!
by Chris McNally on Dec 29, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Rolston in, Nino back to 9min/gm with incredibly crappy linemates Pandolfo/Reasoner.
Yeah Garth!
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
The hit Fistric concussed shea weber on looks like an elbow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh_o_DoO5-Y
Didn’t leave his skates this time, but definitely an elbow with his arm “up”, and not tucked down. I think it’s arguably a penalty, but not a suspension because weber is so low, he’s just about on his knees at the time of the hit. An unfortunate event to a star player. Although, this definitely gives the viewpoint that Fistric is a “dirty” player. He keeps his arms up with his hits, which is certainly unncessary given his size, seeming like he wants to hurt people.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
should anyone feel bad when
fistric gets his clock cleaned out? I for one will not.
by Madchef on Dec 29, 2011 6:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I kinda feel bad that he hasn't already
Ok, so 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 weren't our years. There's always 2012!
by Chris McNally on Dec 29, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Paging Mike Haley...
Is there a Mike Haley in the building? There is a Fistric who is refusing to pay his bill.
by CloseCallJiggs on Dec 29, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Fisric has 4 inches and 30lbs on Haley, but I think it'd be a fair fight :-)
Isn’t Haley’s hand messed up now?(not that it matters because we don’t play the stars again I believe).
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Is there a Mike Haley in the building?
Nope… unless you count the pressbox where he is nursing his hand!
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 29, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
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1979-80
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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.
The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.
1980-81
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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.
Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.
1981-82
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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.
A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.
1982-83
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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.
Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.
