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Gameday: Islanders vs. J-E-T-S Jets! Jets! ... 'Peg?

Last time there were two major pro franchises that went by "Jets" at the same time, there was no blog, there was no Kardashian, there was no shootout. So today's heading is taking care of a 15-year fascination with the yin and yang of Jetsdom. Just had to get that out of the way like some such Rich Kotite.

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Islanders (10-14-6, 14th/E) @ Jets (15-13-4, 9th/E)
8:30 EST | MSG+2 (
twice the plus!) | Audio: NHL - WRHU
MST3K Centre
Opposition Airport:
Arctic Ice Hockey

Your themes for the day are Travis Hamonic getting to play NHL hockey near his home [highlight package here], Evgeni Nabokov due for a start in the next three games (there are back-to-backs Thursday and Friday, but Al Montoya starts tonight), and waiver claim (by way of Kazan and the Lightning) Antti Miettinen likely getting his debut. Arthur Staple also hinted at a line swap between Tim Wallace and Nino Niederreiter.

Mobile note: Hey, we have an Android app now. Go get it.

Star-divide

When these teams last met, Ondrej Pavelec carried the day in a jarring 3-0 shutout on Coliseum ice that began with a superb Evander Kane waltz passed two of the Islanders best defenseman and one now-waived forward. This time around we have the fun of a (hopefully not too amped) Hamonic playing in front of family, who themselves should be part of an electric atmosphere at the MST3K Center.

While that loss was disappointing on many levels in the "two goals or less" slump of the first quarter, the former Thrashers have hardly played like Thrashers this season. Their high PDO (shooting percentage plus save percentage) may reflect some good fortune at this point, but their even strength possession numbers rank them about 18th -- just two slots above the Islanders, incidentally -- so they have every right to be in the congested mass of flawed bubble teams as you might hope the Islanders would be.

These should be too closely matched teams, where a big solo night from a goalie, a Kane (or a Tavares?) easily makes the difference. Of course, unlike last time when the Jets were banged up but Pavelec shut out the Isles, this time they field a mostly healthy lineup.

Road Warriors: I don't read anything into it other than the chance to picture the Islanders with spiky shoulders, but the Islanders have won four of their last six on the road. One of those was via shootout, and every other has been a one-goal game, just like their recent losses. Thin margin for error much?

Diversionary Things

FIG Picks

Get your First Islanders Goal (or Jets shutout) picks right here, well over here.

Prediction: John Tavares and Alex Burmistrov do not fight. Not again.

Look for further updates later after morning skate news filters in.

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I hope some ref doesn't decide to ruin The Hammer's homecoming.

That was a cool video. After all the crap he’s had to go through this season, I’m happy for him.

"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."

—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 20, 2011 12:30 PM EST reply actions  

Arthur Staple @StapeNewsday 1m Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Al Montoya starts in goal for #Isles in WPG. Same lineup as in Minny, Wallace w/Reasoner, Martin and Nino w/Bailey, Ullstrom.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Dec 20, 2011 12:34 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Nice

Hopefully Nabby goes Thursday in the Garden so I can see Al in person Friday night!

by afrosupreme on Dec 20, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

This!

Now, kids, being eaten by a crocodile is just like going to sleep; in giant blender.

by meigs1414 on Dec 20, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I will be at this game as well

I’ll be the guy is an Islanders hat with a big sign that says “BAILEY SUCKS!$@ FIRE JACK CRAPUANO!!!!”

=d

by AP77 on Dec 20, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, wait, misread your post.

I’ll be at the game at the Garden.

=d

by AP77 on Dec 20, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

In that case

Go with the Potvin jersey.

by Dorfer on Dec 20, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope we stick with this lineup (without getting new players)

I like the youth over the old guys dragging the kids down.

"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."

—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 20, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Cool. Nino playing with a functional Bailey and Ullstrom, gonne be interesting.

Montoya, let’s hope he’s back to his self before he had a couple bad games.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 20, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I really think the Nino, Bailey, Ullstrom line has potential.

With Bailey playing better with Ulllstrom, minus Rolston, plus Nino they could be dynamic.

by The Danish Backhand of Judgement on Dec 20, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

+1 to the minus rolston


i mean look at the freaking guy, he just looks old and haggard

by BPlaia on Dec 20, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

LMAO

"If the bell needs to be answered, we've got the guys to answer it." "If they want to start something, that's fine."- Trevor Gillies

Twitter: JenWillyard

by JW1970 on Dec 20, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought

this was on of the Wall Street guys stepped on by Gordon Gecco.

by jonny4gets on Dec 20, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't you

forget about me / I’ll be alone, dancing the cap mule baby

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 20, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

Outstanding.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 20, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

No he doesnt.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 20, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Have to agree

Kind of looks like Josh Brolin. Not the worst dude to be compared to. Good on him.

Success was survival and, kid, it still is

by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 20, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

His looks are one thing Im NOT going to complain about lol.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 21, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I had been racking my brains all afternoon after seeing this

very much reminds me of 80’s Bryan Ferry with the hair.

"If the bell needs to be answered, we've got the guys to answer it." "If they want to start something, that's fine."- Trevor Gillies

Twitter: JenWillyard

by JW1970 on Dec 20, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

"If the bell needs to be answered, we've got the guys to answer it." "If they want to start something, that's fine."- Trevor Gillies

Twitter: JenWillyard

by JW1970 on Dec 20, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

subject line , please

"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."

—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 20, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

SORRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just as I got all proud for posting an image, of course I screw it up somehow! ugh

"If the bell needs to be answered, we've got the guys to answer it." "If they want to start something, that's fine."- Trevor Gillies

Twitter: JenWillyard

by JW1970 on Dec 20, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, they do look alike!

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 21, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Hooray!

Arthur Staple @StapeNewsday 1m
Al Montoya starts in goal for #Isles in WPG. Same lineup as in Minny, Wallace w/Reasoner, Martin and Nino w/Bailey, Ullstrom.

NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Dec 20, 2011 12:34 PM EST reply actions  

Ullstrom Bailey Nino should be fun to watch. Now if only they could get 3 formidable lines in the defensive pairings

by Dougy p on Dec 20, 2011 12:40 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah if I could pick the two best wingers to stick with Bailey it's these two

Bailey needs guys who can drive the puck to the net and I don’t think it’s a fluke that his play has improved since he has gotten a guy like Ullstrom on his wing.

No Sleep 'til....Belmont?

by Anarcurt on Dec 20, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

i too am anticipating this line

even though bailey sux at f/o’s unless he’s drawing on the PP (same with frans this year too)
(and oddly enough, JT is 32nd in F/O’s but only 59 and 61 on PP draws)
no wonder i always feel like we’re losing 30 seconds per PP chasing the puck off the draw

These comments crawl up from the depths of the deepest Chasm of Saar

by bob l on Dec 20, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, at least we can say one good thing about the Coliseum...

…. At least it never had a power failure twice in one night on national television. Here’s to having no less than the second-worst arena in the States!

Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.

by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 20, 2011 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

So when does Winnepeg turn into Toronto

claiming that Hamonic will skip out on the isles to join his beloved Jets?

These comments crawl up from the depths of the deepest Chasm of Saar

by bob l on Dec 20, 2011 1:21 PM EST reply actions  

He's too young

to really remember the Jets!

It is Diduck.

by Paumanok on Dec 20, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

when you’re a Jet you’re a Jet all the way.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Dec 20, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think he was 6 when they left?

Thats old enough to at least know.
Heck… when I was really little I felt like the Dodgers were stolen from me all because of my grandmother- and they left decades before I was even born lol.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 20, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Wonder if

we’re going to get Eaton tonight. No mention from Staple regarding the D, but he did make the trip, no?

by afrosupreme on Dec 20, 2011 1:25 PM EST reply actions  

I'm torn

Eaton is terrible. But so are the other options. This is a conundrum.

=d

by AP77 on Dec 20, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I've liked Reese better than Mottau.

And I’d taken Eaton over Mottau. So by process of elimination, I’d like to see Eaton if it means less Mottau.

by Les Beaver on Dec 20, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

too bad the coaches didn't like

the DeHaan/Reese combo over, well, anything else we can throw out there…

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by bob l on Dec 20, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Reese better than Eaton, probably better than Staios.

He’s played better than Jurcina too, I think. But Jurcina has been pretty good lately, and Isles can use his somewhat physical play.

But I don’t know how Isles could honestly say Reese doesn’t deserve to be in the top-6.

"The reader of this sentence exists only while reading me."

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 20, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think anyone would ever mistake me for a Reese fan boy, but Reese >>>> Mottau/Eaton.

=d

by AP77 on Dec 20, 2011 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Help me avoid Christmas shopping

So that Bossy, Trottier story got me thinking. What two players in NHL history have combined on the most goals? I looked around and didn’t see an obvious list. It would be an impressive number, though. You’d have to think those two would be at or near the top because of their longevity together. If I weren’t lazy I could probably look up year by year how many times Trots assisted on Bossy goals, and vice versa. But I’m going to rough it and imagine Trots got helpers on close to 250 Bossy makers, and Bossy 100 on Trots goals. That gets us near 350, quite a number. I suppose Gretzky/Kurri is the likely leader — NHL.com says Kurri assisted on 198 Gretzky goals. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=550569
Couldn’t find any better data than that. Anyone know of a place?

Seems to me that “most times on the score sheet together” would make quite a statement, though.

PS While data hunting, I found the factoiod below. Should make us feel better about Grabner’s troubles, no? I’ve always had a sneaking suspicion that he’s not as bad at breakaways as it seems, it just looks bad because he’s constantly getting breakaways and not converting and making us think what if….

5 — Penalty shots taken by Gretzky in the regular season. Amazingly, he scored on only one of them — for Edmonton against Vancouver’s Richard Brodeur on Jan. 19, 1983.

by BobSulli on Dec 20, 2011 1:33 PM EST reply actions  

A little further down that page
364 — Assists by Gretzky on goals by Kurri,

That puts them at a combined 562 goals. I’m guessing that would be hard to top.

by afrosupreme on Dec 20, 2011 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

My first thought was the Sedins

Daniel has 262 goals and Henrik has 166. Even if they set up about 80% of each other’s goals…210 + 132 = 342.. That makes 562 look so much bigger given these two are rarely on the ice without the other.

LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA

by JPinVA on Dec 20, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

That’s an unbelievable number, 364. Just, wow. Yes, can’t imagine 562 combined isn’t No. 1 by a mile.

One of my earliest hockey memories — I was at a Devils/Oilers game in the mid-80s (the Mickey Mouse years) and saw Gretz kill about 40 seconds of a penalty by himself just skating around center ice, making Devil after Devil look foolish. Many fans gave him a standing O at the end of it.

To further prove I am not Christmas shopping: I didn’t realize Bossy had 9 hat tricks. IN ONE SEASON 1980-81. Nine? That F&*(r from Edmonton had to get 10 the next year, jerk.

by BobSulli on Dec 20, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes! the android app!

the only thing sucking about this right now is I have the droid 2 with the keyboard (because with my nails that touchscreem thing just doesn’t work) and although the keyboard is out, the screen has not moved.
so yes, I am typing sideways.

"If the bell needs to be answered, we've got the guys to answer it." "If they want to start something, that's fine."- Trevor Gillies

Twitter: JenWillyard

by JW1970 on Dec 20, 2011 1:38 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Ah-ha, weird

Hey, will you leave that in the post about the Android app, too? I think the developers will be emerging from behind their hamster wheels to look for feedback such as this.

(And yes, I rib the developers out of well-meaning fun, because I can’t do a single thing they do.)

Any other Android freaks, do the same. Download it, tell ‘em what you like/don’t like need/want/gotta have.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 20, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Seems the comments are closed for that post?

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Dec 20, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

tell them to open the comments for feedback and I shall tell them

"If the bell needs to be answered, we've got the guys to answer it." "If they want to start something, that's fine."- Trevor Gillies

Twitter: JenWillyard

by JW1970 on Dec 20, 2011 3:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

LOL, whoops, sorry

Maybe they’ll check here then.

These things tend to come down from the overlords with just a little bit of warning.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 20, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I also have issues using the Droid 2 slide out keyboard at times

I’ll type certain letters and it will bring me to certain apps, like GMail or Music. It gets annoying when I’d rather type the letters G or T.

That being said, I downloaded the Android app during lunch and look forward to tinkering around with LHH on my phone.

by Dougtone on Dec 20, 2011 5:19 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm away from NY area the next two+ weeks

What is my best chance to find Isles games on the internet?

I wouldn’t even mind replays the next day. (That may actually be better than live feed, because then I could pause it.)

I wouldn’t mind paying something reasonable. I just want to avoid scams.

Was there already a post about this?

"The reader of this sentence exists only while reading me."

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 20, 2011 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

Gamecenter live

you could sign up and do the monthly payment and cancel when you get home?

I use it and it’s great. You can choose home or away feed and it’s great quality.

by rck88 on Dec 20, 2011 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank-you!

Sorry, I should have said Off Topic.

"The reader of this sentence exists only while reading me."

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 20, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think it works that way

When you get Gamecenter, if you pay monthly, those are monthly installments towards the annual fee, not “renting the service for a month.” At least, that’s how it worked last year when I considered going that way. They’re not the best at refunds, canellations, either. Corrections welcome if someone else knows better.

by BobSulli on Dec 20, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

That's probably right

I pay $20/month which adds up to the regular total, just thought it could work.

I guess you could get a VIsa gift card and try that? Put $20 on it so it can’t keep charging you?

by rck88 on Dec 20, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha

I only know that because I lost the debit card I originally signed up with and cancelled it and they emailed me asking to update my new card number

by rck88 on Dec 20, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

hello

playoff gamecenter

God loves all creatures great and small, geographical locations however are another story.

by CraigConway on Dec 20, 2011 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Lighthousehockey at its best

Enabling fans to watch Isles games no matter what their circumstance.

by BobSulli on Dec 20, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah I know there are...

indirect broadcasts online. Just don’t want the men in the black coats to come and take me away.

"The reader of this sentence exists only while reading me."

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 20, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

You'd be fine

with one of those. Just usually aren’t the best quality

by rck88 on Dec 20, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Also sometimes come with booby-traps

ie some ‘free’ video sites come booby-trapped with viruses. Just make sure to use protection if you’re going down that road.

by BobSulli on Dec 20, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

2009

I spent a good portion of the year hospitalized. I needed the NHL package for about two weeks… I hooked it up for a month and tried to cancel it after the month. No way… the agreement is for the season. I was okay with that… my bad.
in 2010 they started charging me for the service in October and I gave them holy hell.
There may be a notation in my account somewhere not to ever allow me to sign up again.

LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA

by JPinVA on Dec 20, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

What they should do...

is offer any game for $5 or something. So when someone is traveling or whatever the case is, charge $5 per game, or even $5-$10 to watch all games that day. That would be $3 more than what is costs to watch an entire season ($160/82 = ~$1.95 per game…and that’s if you just watch 1 team all season)

by rck88 on Dec 20, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

What they really should do

Is allow a person to pay a smaller amount just to get one team’s games. I have 0 interest in watching games not played by the Islanders. They don’t offer that because that doesn’t “make them money.” The package is too much for me to spend, especially when all I care about is the 3 games a week the Islanders play.

I called them once and asked them why they don’t offer single-team packages, and they person said “But with our package you get over 40 games a week!” and I said “I don’t care about those games.” And all they could say is, “Well, it’s not something we’ve considered at this time.”

Translation: We make money off of out-of-town fans desperate to watch their team play, so we charge them an exorbitant amount and use the excuse that we’re giving them “so many games” to choose from.

In case you can’t tell…this is a sore point for me, especially since I have lived outside of NY for 8 of the past 10 years.

by rosey7 on Dec 20, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

That's how I feel about

all the sports packages. I’d love to just be able to watch my teams. I have no interest in watching the Coyotes play the Ducks.

I’d have no problem paying even $50 for just the Islanders.

by rck88 on Dec 20, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I love that

“But with our package you get over 40 games a week!”

Sounds way too close to, “But ours goes to eleven!”

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 20, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Worse yet

Of the 40 games you get, none of them are the ones you want, unless you live out of market. In fact, the twisted fine print at NHL.com says somewhere, basically, that you shouldn’t buy their package to follow your home-town team. Of course, that’s to placate the MSGs and Comcasts of the world, who think they might lose paying subscribers if we were allowed to watch our teams in our home areas on the Web. One day, we’ll look back at this as the Dark Ages, like when we tried to fly in airplanes powered by bicycle pedals. But for now, being a fan is hard work.

PS I love Spinal Tap, Dom. Premo reference. Wait, maybe there’s a connection between Sudden Drummer Death Syndrome and Islanders Shoulder?

by BobSulli on Dec 20, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, it's maddening

The fine print and left turns (‘Ttonight Jiggs announces … but you don’t get him, you get Minnesota I Can’t Pronounce Names Guy!") drive me nuts and remind me the three cable giants pull the strings.

It’s hard to dust for labrum.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 20, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Sudden Goalie Knee Syndrome

So dire, it is also known to afflict the occasional moderator here.

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 20, 2011 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, let me buy per game

or per team, but why do I want to watch Calgary/San Jose? ‘Cause, I’m not, like, from either of those places.

by Jones79 on Dec 20, 2011 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I looked into NHL GameCenter Live

Then it was reported by someone on LHH (I think it was MTBVibe) that there were blackout restrictions for the Islanders games here in Upstate New York. You really need to be an out of market fan (like being an Islanders fan living in Salem, Oregon) to get the full use of Center Ice or GameCenter.

by Dougtone on Dec 20, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

For GameCenter

if you know your way around proxy servers, I think you can get around it.

Not that I’d ever advocate such a thing.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 20, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Not something I'm willing to spend much time figuring out

I can certainly deal with the Radio Hofstra broadcasts instead.

by Dougtone on Dec 20, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

ditto

I heard proxy servers and my mind froze there for a second. I’m ok now, but that kind of language can get my eyeballs to roll right up into my head.

by Jones79 on Dec 20, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Chanfeed.com

Doesn’t always work, but you can watch any game of any sport.

by Empire39 on Dec 20, 2011 4:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

No participation in the FIG again from me.

They won last time I didn’t participate, so let’s see if it can happen again.

On a side note, I met Mark Messier after open hockey today in Westchester. He was nice enough to sign pucks for guys getting off the ice. I didn’t get an autograph (didn’t care), but I did talk to him about why he’d be up in Elmsford.

Can one be an atheist toward a hockey team? That means I have NO faith anymore.

by Turgeon1992 on Dec 20, 2011 2:02 PM EST reply actions  

It is only proper that you do this (FIGs that is)

I hope you gave Messier a good whack on the shins.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 20, 2011 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Fabtraption asked me if I punched him in the face.

I did what any true Islander fan would do… gooned it up, and elbowed him in the head, then screamed at him while he laid concussed on the ground—perhaps Mike Milbury will yell about how I don’t belong anywhere near open hockey rinks.

Can one be an atheist toward a hockey team? That means I have NO faith anymore.

by Turgeon1992 on Dec 20, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

True

But at least that was an actual story.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 20, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

do people not do research at nhl.com?
Matt Moulson is tied for the Islanders’ lead in goals with 15

what the hell is that? hey nhl

God loves all creatures great and small, geographical locations however are another story.

by CraigConway on Dec 20, 2011 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

I can only read this as

“JOHN TAVARES TO SCORE 5 GOALS IN WINNIPEG TONIGHT”

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Dec 20, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

i will try so hard

to not see this as a pr*j*ct**n and instead that you are a licensed physic, because we all know if you’re licensed that its legtit

God loves all creatures great and small, geographical locations however are another story.

by CraigConway on Dec 20, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow

Just looked at the stats and Parenteau already has 20 assists

"I really wouldn’t wish rooting for both the Isles and Blues on anyone." Dominik
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.

by Mark D on Dec 20, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

paps

is so useless

God loves all creatures great and small, geographical locations however are another story.

by CraigConway on Dec 20, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

3rd Line Material only

"I really wouldn’t wish rooting for both the Isles and Blues on anyone." Dominik
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.

by Mark D on Dec 20, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

if he wasnt with

jt and mouls he wouldnt be anywhere (especially giving rolston his two goals)

God loves all creatures great and small, geographical locations however are another story.

by CraigConway on Dec 20, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Webby?

I know you were planning on takling this weekend off… SLACKER! Do we have a rundown of the prospects we’ll have at the WJCs this year.

LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA

by JPinVA on Dec 20, 2011 2:56 PM EST reply actions  

lol, its not slacker

The Juniors and Colleges are both pretty much off. I think the only Islander that made the WJCs was Strome.

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by Mark D on Dec 20, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Sundtstrom did too

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 20, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Fransy

Looking like a model with that hair. Moulson kinda looks like he wants to go touch a little boy.

Constantly building for the future.

by pgat28 on Dec 20, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Or arrest someone

for touching little boys.

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by PGI on Dec 20, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

He does have a

Serpico kinda look there doesn’t he?

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by JW1970 on Dec 20, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Serpico....weird seeing such a young Pacino

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by JW1970 on Dec 20, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

for some reson

Moulson reminds me of a young Neil Peart.

by Katzenhammer on Dec 20, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I knew I knew that look from somewhere

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by PGI on Dec 20, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

you grabbed the cool picture, not the 2112 version with the robes.

by Katzenhammer on Dec 20, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

It's highly possible...

that they’re brothers-in-law

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by JPinVA on Dec 20, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

apparently we put out an advertisement with sandusky in it?

then again i have no idea if it’s actually true or not. anyone actually get the original email ad?

by BPlaia on Dec 20, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I LOVE THIS!

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by JW1970 on Dec 20, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Can you just hear Grabs saying

“yo”

THIS IS ALSO SO FITTING… I don’t even have to parody it.

Well, you can tell by the way I use my walk,
I’m a woman’s man, no time to talk.
Music loud and women warm.
I’ve been kicked around since I was born.
And now it’s all right, it’s O.K.
And you may look the other way.
We can try to understand
The New York Times’ effect on man.
Whether you’re a brother[in-law]
Or whether you’re a mother,
You’re stayin’ alive, stayin’ alive.
Feel the city breakin’
And ev’rybody shakin’
And we’re stayin’ alive, stayin’ alive.
Ah, ha, ha, ha,
Stayin’ alive.
Stayin’ alive.
Ah, ha, ha, ha,
Stayin’ alive

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by JPinVA on Dec 20, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I REALLLLLLLLLY HOPE

you had to look the lyrics up.

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by JW1970 on Dec 20, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Brooklyn boy...

Actually lived around the corner from Phillip’s dance studio… and worked across the street from Lenny’s (pizza place at the beginning) on 86th street in the early 80’s (Baskin Robbins). It’s just too bad that they didn’t get the crazy guy who played air guitar on the corner of 86th and bay parkway into the movie. That guy was awesome…. it was like he worked an 8 hour day just playing air guitar.

Yeah… I cut and paste the lyrics. Even though I hated the movie for years (I was nowhere near the stereotype it portrays) I’ve seen it a thousand times… and remember when they were filming it.

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by JPinVA on Dec 20, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

My cousins lived pretty close by........

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by JW1970 on Dec 20, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Huh?

i can still remember my bro bringing that record home and the Star wars soundtrack. How would anybody alive then have to look up the lyrics?

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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 20, 2011 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

he brought them home on record, you lucky fellow

We had them at our house too…. on EIGHT TRACK.

My parents also owned a Monte Carlo with T-tops.

I suppose it was inevitable that I’d wind up being a goalie.

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by mikb on Dec 20, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I've never played an 8-track, at least that i can remember

"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."

—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 20, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Because they don't want to type it out...

…and after listening to it for over 30 years the BeeGees are still unintelligible. They’d make a good replacement for when the Rocket Man commercial is done.

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by JPinVA on Dec 20, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

and link for that picture please

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by JW1970 on Dec 20, 2011 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Is Grabs stifling a burp or a yawn?

I think Fransie is channeling some sort of Adrien Brody/Luke Perry eyebrow thing. And we need more Moulson-as-paesan.

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by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 20, 2011 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

How Beatles-esque

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by mikb on Dec 20, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely

KO = Paul, Grabs = John, Frans = Ringo, Matty Mo = George

by Dorfer on Dec 20, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

and JT is Elvis

The King, baby.

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by mikb on Dec 20, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

And Rick

Is like one of the many rock stars who were physically unable to perform by the age of 25.

by Dorfer on Dec 20, 2011 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Backstreet Boys auditions?

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by Turgeon1992 on Dec 20, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Truly, this is one of the best preview threads we've had in some time

Get back from a meeting, needed some comic relief…

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by Dominik on Dec 20, 2011 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

What a cool picture!!!!!

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 21, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

PK Subban

Montreal fans are starting to get down on PK. Does anybody think that a package of Nielsen, Wishart and a second could get PK and one of the smurfs (Gionta/Gomez).
PROS
ISLES: They have had almost no access to top four defenders in the UFA pool. PK will be an ALL-STAR defender in 3-5 years and he definitely brings what this team needs… and a shit load of it. Wishart has a glass ceiling right now, and he needs to get out from under it.
HABS: Both the smurfs are hurt and are only moderately productive when healthy. Frans could definitely step in as a solid two way center.. and he probably speaks some french. He also plays the PP point. Wishart is a 220 lb defender who it will be easier to teach french than the physical side of hockey.. The HABS will need cap space next year to sign their UFA’s and Kaberle has them up against it.
Isles should have a high second rounder (especially if they don’t land a top four defender)
CONS:
ISLES:
Nobody wants to lose Frans… but he’s an expiring asset. The Isles will have Cizikas and Strome fighting for that third line center position next year, and they have Reasoner for another year… God, if MON would take Reasoner… but that would be almost as bad as taking on Gomez’ contract and how many stupid miracles can we expect from Montreal (Kaberle?).
MON:
The front office and the fans are probably on a different page with PK. They probably see him as a young talent…. and this deal could never happen. The chance to dump salary and get Nielsen to negotiate for a few months might be worth it. If frans enjoys playing in front of 9K Long Islanders he might extend his $500K contract for 20 years to play in front of 20K every night.

Just a thought… i know it could never happen…

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by JPinVA on Dec 20, 2011 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

Would love to have JT's buddy PK

And seeing what the Habs gave up for Gomez. and his contract….I’d offer Pandolfo, Mottau and DiPietro.

by Dorfer on Dec 20, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOLOL

Besides Gomez, they also took Higgins, and now Kaberle. Did Sather switch bodies with Pierre Gauthier while no-one was looking?

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by mikb on Dec 20, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

No just for the Gomez contract

Wouldn’t want to take that thing on. I don’t know what voodoo Glen Sather pulled to actually unload that contract I can’t believe Montreal made that. I wouldn’t want that albatross here, we are already dealing with DP.

In the meat of the trade (Neilsen for Subban), its a gamble. Will PK pan out? Will Franz’s replacements? Not a sure enough thing to make this trade, at least for me.

by GreekIsles83 on Dec 20, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Gomez Contract

Is really the only plus for MON. Frans is an expiring asset. He might resign, but HE’S THE GAMBLE.
PK is better than any defensive prospect we have in the system right now not named Hamonic. He’s a PP+, will be able to log 24+ responsible mins in a few years. If you can get a guy like that while Chynoweth is still behind the bench he could be a MONSTER.
If the Isles want to throw $3M for 5yrs at Frans this summer with Cizikas, Lee and Nelson in the system… I’d be okay with that… but when you have NOTHING on DEFENSE… you had better manage your assets as best you can.

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by JPinVA on Dec 20, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I keep hoping

That Garth has a secretive master scheme to bring in a high quality dman up his sleeve. Waiting for the exact right moment to throw the big bucks at the guy who will transform the corps, but the realist in me knows it won’t happen. That makes your argument make sense to me.

But at the same time giving up Franzy is also an admission that the Islanders aren’t as close as I’d want them to be. IF they pan out, it will still be at least 2-3 years before Snow Draft Picks: The Next Generation will be ready to contribute. I was hoping for a corner turn this year or next, with a couple good free agent vets pushing the kids further down the depth chart. But it hasn’t shaken out like that at all.

by GreekIsles83 on Dec 20, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

It's funny

I keep applauding him for going after Ehrhoff … while secretly feeling some relief (long-term) that it didn’t work out. That was going to be a nice boost for this season, but long-term it made me really nervous.

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by Dominik on Dec 20, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree...

They are pretty strong at forward. If they had any defensive support at all they’d be even stronger at forward.
There top 8 are all young legit NHLers. (Tavares, Moulson, Parentau, Grabner, Nielsen, Okposo, Martin, Bailey)
They have four questionable NHLers on the very near horzon (Nino, Ullstrom, Cizikas and Strome)
And some NHL ready depth in Reasoner, Dibenedetto, Colliton, Rakhshani and Wallace.
That is a STRENGTH you can deal from. And with the crop that’s coming in you had better manage those assets soon because there are only so many seats in the press box.

If they don’t get a top four D in a trade soon they will also have another top 5 pick next year… and a SHITLOAD OF EMPTY SEATS! IN OCTOBER!!

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by JPinVA on Dec 20, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

A trade with the Habs is easy

Just send them a coach that speaks French.

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by PGI on Dec 20, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill with the Habs coaching hire

I can understand the idea that the Francophones in Québec would want to preserve their culture and language, but making a big deal out of hiring an Anglophone for an interim hire is going off the deep end, in my opinion. Especially since Cunneyworth is willing to take French lessons.

by Dougtone on Dec 20, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

If the Canadiens were willing to take Kaberle for Spacek...

Garth should try trading DP for PK. Apparently, the Montreal GM is an idiot, so why not exploit that.

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by Turgeon1992 on Dec 20, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t want to move Frans until we KNOW he’s an expiring asset. I’m not putting my eggs in Cizikas’s or Strome’s baskets yet. Especially because even if that happens we can bump Frans down to the third or fourth line and Malholtra him.

If he doesn’t want to resign by the trade deadline, then I sadly say yes, see what you can make of him.

by afrosupreme on Dec 20, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

MTL

This probably carries it:

The front office and the fans are probably on a different page with PK. They probably see him as a young talent…. and this deal could never happen.
Gauthier is perplexing, to put it kindly, but I can’t imagine he’s ready to dump a young TEH CORE piece like that. Esp. given how few homegrowns they have from recent drafts.

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by Dominik on Dec 20, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

O/T about the J! E! T! S!

This Sunday the New York football Jets play the cross-town Giants for the 12th time in the regular season. It is the first of these twelve mettings in which the Jets have a winning record.

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by mikb on Dec 20, 2011 4:00 PM EST reply actions  

and the first time...

they’ll have the luxury of picking apart a Perry Fewel defense. Hopefully the players revolt tomorrow and Carl Banks comes in to coach the defense until the end of the season and they can bid for Spags on the open market.

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by JPinVA on Dec 20, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, we can always hope for some Eli 4th quarter magic.

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by Turgeon1992 on Dec 20, 2011 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Unfortuantely, Sanchise can spin his own 4th quarter magic, sometimes

As a NY football fan, I probably should care about this game. But the way the teams looked last week, I have the lowest possible expectations. Go Giants, I guess – just wake me up for Isles/Rags on Monday.

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by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 20, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

TRUE...

It is the first time they will be able to pick apart a NYG Perry Fewel defense.

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by JPinVA on Dec 20, 2011 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

JT

Wants none of this…

by jlm11092 on Dec 20, 2011 4:51 PM EST reply actions  

This cannot be JT

There is no tuft of hair sticking out of the front of his hat.

by GreekIsles83 on Dec 20, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I was JUST about to post this!

LMAO
“No pictures, please”

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by JW1970 on Dec 20, 2011 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Insert

“RBK owns my likeness.” (or whoever.)

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by Dominik on Dec 20, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

LOLOLOL

We should have taken Duchesne, Tavares is just… he’s right behind me isn’t he.

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by mikb on Dec 20, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

“…with a shiv.”

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by Dominik on Dec 20, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I am now officially dumbfounded

Moulson leads the team with a +4

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