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Islanders vs. Blackhawks Gameday: Just Shoot on These Guys

Both of the Chicago Blackhawks' goalies have sub-.900 save percentages, yet their team is tied for third-most standings points in the league. (So are the Rangers and Stars, but that won't last.) Corey Crawford has given up 10 goals on his last 76 shots -- 9 of them at even strength -- but the Hawks won two of his three games in that stretch.

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The Hawks are in a division that's currently home to three of the best possession teams in the league. At that rate, if this were the old Norris days then only one of them would make it to the third round. If this were the old-old 1 v. 16 days they might make up three-fourths of the final four. But it's 2011, the shootout and division winner seeds will muck things up, and any team can hold on for a regulation tie and a coin flip.

The Islanders would do well to get to that coin flip tonight.

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The Hawks put on nearly five more shots per game and give up 2.5 shots less than the Isles. Their PK has been oddly horrid (74% ... goaltending?), but they're scoring 3.12 goals per game. If Al Montoya plays in his hometown, it will be on him to save the day, with perhaps some help from whichever guy wears the pads at the other end.

UPDATE: Montoya indeed gets the start. Same lineup as before, except MacDonald is a gametime decision. Said the Big Cubano to Newsday's Arthur Staple on playing in his hometown:

"Friday night in the city, this is the place to be. It'll be an atmosphere to remember."

Whether or not Andrew MacDonald is ready to go, the Hawks will pose matchup problems for the visiting Isles. A red hot Jonathan Toews and Patrick Kane are on separate lines*, and we probably don't need to go into their other fine Sharps, Hossas and Bolands. (All of the above except Toews scored in last year's 5-0 drubbing of Nathan Lawson.) Tool Carcillo is also there, but he's as liable to do something stupid and put himself in the box for karmic effluvia as he is to hurt someone.

*UPDATE 2: Of course tonight is the night the Hawks stop playing Kane at center and move him back to Toews' right wing.

If MacDonald plays, it's at less than 100% as he and Travis Hamonic take the poison of Jack Capuano's choosing. If he doesn't, then Dylan Reese slides in and either Hamonic babysits or Steve Staios leaves Mark Streit's reliable side.

The Islanders are promoting that the veteran pro Reese [Isles] has been the best D-man down in Bridgeport [Newsday], and that's a good sign for him, honestly. As much as we sometimes pile on him, he does have some attributes and, as I was thinking last night, if he truly has made adjustments to his game under Brent Thompson, then he wouldn't be the first pro in his late 20s to adapt himself to serviceable #6/7 duty. Those of us who have tired of watching Mike Mottau can only hope.

Capuano's quote in that Newsday story is worth pulling:

"We told our guys when they left training camp, 'When the phone rings, you've got to be the best player,' and Dylan was playing the best hockey as far as the D go."

The Hawks have their own version of a turnstile on defense, and his name is John Scott, if only they'll dress him. He's really tall and intimidating and can beat someone up in a fight with his reach, yada yada, but if they're lucky enough to see him the Isles would be wise to just avoid him. He's doesn't skate well enough to really hurt anyone in open play, and he often represents an opponent's best chance to sustain offensive pressure.

Scott didn't play in the Hawks' most recent game, a 4-1 loss to the Coyotes on their first game back from their annual lengthy road trip while the circus is in town.

A Note about the Anthem in Chicago

Every once in a while I'll hear what I assume is a whipper-snapper and über patriot say the Chicago fans cheering throughout the national anthem is disrespectful. This may have even come up during the last Isles visit there. Disregarding the awkward sports tradition of pre-game anthems, I can only assume someone who believes it's disrespect doesn't know how it originated.

Unlike fanbases like the Stars or Capitals who shout one word of the anthem ("stars!" or "Oh!"/"Red") in relation to their team, the Hawks anthem rendition evolved from a rally cry in the '80s -- legend has it during the playoffs against the Oilers -- to a tradition that happened to have quite the patriotic implication one year:


Keep in mind, though All-Star Games were still slightly competitive in 1991, there wasn't much to cheer for. This, days after Gulf War 1 began, was the highlight of the afternoon in my book. (And in fact, NBC cut coverage of the game short to give war updates.) Regardless of the geopolitics of the day, that scene had to send a charge through troops who were deployed to do their country's bidding.

I was raised an Islanders and Blues fan, and the Hawks were the Blues' hated rivals in those days. (Just like you can tell an Isles fan's date of entry by how much he hates the Leafs or Pens, you can tell a Blues fan's by whether he hates the Hawks or the Wings more.) So I wanted nothing to do with Chicago Stadium (a younger, dumber version of myself may or may not have ceremonially relieved himself on its facade. My father on the other hand, being a pre-1967 NHL fan, actually had the Hawks as his "second" team, which I could never wrap my head around). Anyway, being all too familiar with how Chicago did the anthem, you bet I was looking forward to that All-Star Game at that point in history.

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Capuano would not commit to Montoya, a Chicago native, getting the start Friday, but he complimented his play. “Al has played extremely well the last few games he’s been in there,” he said.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 2, 2011 8:11 AM EST reply actions  

Considering

this is our only trip this year, and we play again tomorrow night, if he doesn’t play tonight it would be what I think the kids call “a dick move.”

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 2, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

The guy doesnt say who he is going to play, hasnt all season.

My advice would be to relax over it, as opposed to suicide. :)

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

He won't commit to Montoya?

I’ll save my shocked expression for another time.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

It happening once in 22 games doesnt really change things.

Thats all the more reason not to expect it (or get upset when it doesnt happen).

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree, just pointing out that it's been done before.

And likely should happen soon with Cappy naming Montoya the #1 guy sooner then later if he wants to keep his job.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 2, 2011 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

You really think it's all his decision?

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

That's where I'm split.

I can understand and even see it being Garth wanting to get a good draft pick for him and trying to showcase him for other teams.

But I could also see it as Cap going with the vet or hoping Nab plays to his highest potential as he has in the past. We are talking about the same Capuano that refused to bench Rolston over Okposo, promoted Rolston to 2nd line when he was struggling, loves Rolston on the #1 PP, starting Pandolfo/Haley over Reasoner killing our faceoffs specialist option, curiously scratching Nino over Pandolfo/Haley, playing Mottau and not pleading for a call-up until recently(it at least seems), and others. The man has made a number of questionable decisions, so I’m up in the air on this. But I could definitely see Garth weighing this decision.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 2, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

You can't hate on him playing haley, it worked.

The team has looked much better, even if Haley is scratched sometimes. he’s there, and needs to be.

But let me say this.

Garth, and Cappy both know way more about hockey than you and me, right? I’m not like some fans who think if I ran the team, I would be way better. I don’t.

That makes the fact they won’t make Al the undisputed number 1 guy even more curious. I mean, they can all see what every fan can see, right? Even fans of other teams know Al should be the guy, yet these 2 guys don’t seem to know that, imo. It makes me wonder a lot, and it also makes you wonder if you’re wasting your time and money cheering for this team.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

lol, yeah. It's weird.

It was more scratching Reasoner for Pandolfo then haley. I could see them wanting Haley in the lineup, but Pandolfo has been really bad 5-on-5, really really bad.

On the Garth/Cappy should know more then us, I mostly I agree. I think of it though as some coaches/gms are “stubborn”. They have a set philosophy or gameplan or building of a team that may not be “perfect” or “right”, but it’s there plan. They should be smarter then me and you on hockey, might actually be 5X’s smarter then us, but some of their “stubborn” pre-season gameplan may be biting them in the ass for carrying it out so long or their “strict beliefs” could be hurting them. Cappy/Garth has shown “way” too much love for veterans. Almost every Rolston decision/use has baffled me given his progress, aside from some little chemistry as of late with Bailey, and we aren’t even sure it’s a fluke chemistry yet or Bailey stepping up and “creating”. Mottau should have never started the season on the team, he’s the worst d-man in the nhl right now. Eaton/Mottau/Jurcina/Staios should have never been counted on to stay healthy and reliable this whole season and keep us alive on D to fight for a playoff spot. Pandolfo getting almost 12minutes per game is completely mindboggling given his play compared to lesser minute getters(Martin/Ullstrom and even Nino in some respects for reasoning).

And other mindboggling Personnel decisions:
-Grabner only recently getting top SH toi over Pandolfo(why?)
-Rolston getting top line PP point minutes over almost anyone (I’d rather a number of people next to streit there: a-mac/Hamonic/juice-maybe/Okposo-maybe)
-Not using Reasoner as a faceoff specialist as much as he should be.
-And other “less controversial” ones

The goalie situation is the weirdest. It’s like either: A:they want to continue showcasing Nabokov or B:They think Nabokov can win back the starting job or C:They think Montoya’s stats/play are a fluke. Any of the above, it makes no sense not to ride a hot goalie until he’s cold. DP has gotten limited starts, as expected though. But with what we’ve seen so far, there is no reason not to start Montoya on a 60gms/20gms pace with Nab as his backup and DP scratched if they want to win right now. That’s the most confusing decision.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 2, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Great post

And I agree with all of it. And now you make me think maybe it is cappy’s decision. Those were good points.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 2, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

If I may be permitted ...

to go backward just briefly, I totally agree with JPinVA that Bam-Bam Langevin, Persson and Jonsson were all tremendous players, but I’d like to know are JPinVA and JPinNYC the same person? Doe he or she post in Virginia as JPinVA, then jump on a plane and post as JPinNYC on arrival?
Is VA ‘Veterans Administration’ and not Virginia? Maybe it’s none of my freakin business, but I just am wondering.

by dose on Dec 2, 2011 8:22 AM EST reply actions  

Hmm...

…Whenever JPinVA is around… JPinNYC is nowhere to be seen. And when JPinNYC appears, no one can seem to find JPinVA…

by GreekIsles83 on Dec 2, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

It's another ...

Dalgarno/Isbister, Montalban/Lamas situation I tell ya.

by dose on Dec 2, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I am Spartacus!

LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA

by JPinVA on Dec 2, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Barry Melrose: Blackhawks the Best, Isles the Worst

A couple of days ago Barry Melrose said the Blackhawks were the best hockey team in the Western Conf and the Isles were the worst in the Eastern Conf. He said Isles have “average goaltending”. Wonder if he realizes that one goaltender has outstanding stats (but he probably never heard of Toyota)?
Capuano should post this on the locker room board before tonights game.
Would be nice if the Isles can pull out a victory in Chicago

by JoRiverside on Dec 2, 2011 8:45 AM EST reply actions  

Overall average maybe.

So far: DP=.885
Nab=.910
Montoya=.933

=around average overall

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 2, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

ENG asterisk on all this

.901 team save percentage, which is tied for 19th. But if you removed all the ENGs it would be .906.

It’s funny: The six empty net goals allowed paints the SV and GA figure a little. (Interestingly, Colorado actually has EIGHT ENG allowed. The Isles have six, Winnipeg five. Most teams have two or less.)

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

So an empty netter counts against a goalie's stats?

Is that the way I’m reading you, Dom?

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it counts against the TEAM SV%, but not the individual goalie.

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 2, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

What afro said, just the team stats

But getting team GA totals depends on the source (you have to figure out whether they’re counting ENG, and shootout win “goals” etc.).

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Cool, more reason not to pay attention to stats. ;o)

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha

Everything, be it stats or be it lineup and goalie decisions, demands context ;)

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by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd say slightly above-average

The Isles have only allowed two more goals than the league average. Considering that this includes ENG, that suggests that the goalkeeping is in the top half of the league, not the bottom.

Turns out that RDP and Nilsson really skew the average downwards. They own more than half of the Isles’ sub-.900 games despite playing only 31% of the minutes. The Isles are more likely to get a good performance in net vs. a terrible one.

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 2, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Comeau scored last night

Fire Garth Snow!

Success was survival and, kid, it still is

by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 2, 2011 8:45 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

of course he did

It’s perfectly plausible that he just couldn’t handle the pressure of playing in new york. kidding.

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by khrudey30 on Dec 2, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I LOVE your user name: khrudey30

He was my second all time favorite Islander goaltender and IMO the second best netminder (behind Billy Smith) this organization has ever had.

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Dec 2, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

very underrated if you ask me

the headband especially

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by khrudey30 on Dec 2, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

The throat guard was pretty sweet too.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

And he was so nice to Geordi when he visited the team practice.

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by mikb on Dec 2, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Clearly too young

To remember Chico (wink)

Thou shalt not recognize false enemies, they are the Rangers, you shall have no other enemies before them.
AND "Thank you Dale Tallon"

by since70too on Dec 2, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

CHICO?

That Islander traitor, now Devils advocate! I can never forget Chico “the man” Resh he was a great part in the buliding of the dinasty. BUT, Hrudey was better IMO.

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Dec 2, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Sutter just told him it was March in Canada.

Because they use the metric system up there. You did it the most man.

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by mikb on Dec 2, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

For the record:

He actually started the goal scoring COZO while he was still an Islander. He just so happened to be passing Calgary en route back the Coliseum, when he heard he got traded, so he stopped and put it in. Figures the league decided to change the rule to reflect, “The team that is in uniform at the END of the COZO shall be the team to get credit for the goal,” just to F the Islanders again; we would have won that Avs game otherwise. F’ing bullshit.

by Les Beaver on Dec 2, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I know we hate to lose any asset

But if he wants 2.5 million to be a third liner, he had better be a dam good third liner and play how he’s told to. Guessing he didn’t. Losing him isn’t going to be the difference between a Stanley Cup or not.

Thou shalt not recognize false enemies, they are the Rangers, you shall have no other enemies before them.
AND "Thank you Dale Tallon"

by since70too on Dec 2, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Do I get a Montoya jersey...

or am I going to regret it after they trade him and rely on DiP again?

by rck88 on Dec 2, 2011 9:11 AM EST reply actions  

If they were to trade him

I’d commit mass genocide.

Constantly building for the future.

by pgat28 on Dec 2, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Only if you promise

to take me out first…while I’m wearing my jersey

by rck88 on Dec 2, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Who's to say he doesn't test the FA waters after this season?

Not saying he will, not even saying Garth doesn’t trade him if a 2nd/1st round pick comes along. But if I’m Montoya and I throw up a .920/.920+/top-10-starting-goalie save percentage for the year on a “bad” islanders team, I’m testing the free agent waters unless I’m getting $3mil/yr on a 2yr(+) deal. The man has been a career ahl goalie, if he puts up the stats to get paid and hasn’t already, he’s gonna want his payday or go to a better team if this team doesn’t show him something. We can’t penny pinch him and suck if we want to keep him. The question is, will garth pay him and/or does garth want to move him if we can get a 2nd/1st rounder for him?

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 2, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Ask Nabokov about the goalie market

I agree that if Al keeps this pace and puts up good stats on a mediocre or worse team, he could and should be paid well. But his best bet may be in negotiating with the Islanders. He can walk, but then runs the risk of pricing himself too high and landing outside of the NHL again.

But I would be shocked if he leaves either by trade or free agency. I can see a 2-or-3 year contract on the horizon, which gives the Islanders time to let Poulin percolate a little more.

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by PGI on Dec 2, 2011 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

He might

but if we offer him 2 years/$2mill per in January does he take it?

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 2, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know. That's a tough one.

The man has never been paid, and if he is looking for a payday, he probably wants a 3rd year for that deal. For all we know he could be a “1 year wonder”. The man is far from rich right now, so if I’m him I’m looking for $5mil+ guaranteed coming off a great year one way or another (2yrs@2.5mil/yr or 3yrs@2mil/yr, etc).

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 2, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

To put it into perspective.

The man was making ~$80k-$90k/yr in the minors for the past half decade before we picked him up and gave him an nhl job/paid him nhl money. Some “regular” people make more then that a year.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 2, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Right

that’s why I wonder. Basically, if he were to crap out in February and March it would be easy to write him off and he might very well find himself back in the AHL. That has to be in the back (or front!) of his mind.

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 2, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I definitely see your side of the argument.

But even if he “craps out” at Feb/March, he’s still looking at $1mil of guaranteed money as a backup on a 2yr deal for someone. Showing the flashes he has last season and this early start has earned him at least that I’d say. Someone may even throw him 2yrs@$1mil/yr if he throws up a .915 in 40 starts this year.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 2, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Tough to say

Still early in the season.

He has the potential to be a key part of turning around the franchise and he may know that and want the money.

Either way, we will see. I’d of course, like to see him stick around for awhile.

by rck88 on Dec 2, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

If I were his agent

I’d put it like this: If this team offers you a few years at a few million dollars per year (be it $2 or be it $3), then you know you can make several million dollars in your career right here.

If you hit the open market, you might also make that — you might make even more — but there is also a good chance you will be begging for a shot on a hopefully one-way $800k type of deal. For one, goaltender values are overrated by only a few teams. For another, the “only 60 jobs” problem inherently limits their leverage.

That’s how I see it right now, but the man has the chance to double his NHL career games played between now and April, so we’ll see how it evolves. He is still far closer to Curtis Sanford right now than he is to Ilya Bryzgalov or even Martin Biron.

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by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

"far closer to Curtis Sanford right now than he is to Ilya Bryzgalov or even Martin Biron."

(In terms of reputation and negotiating position, I mean.)

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Right

that’s sort of what I’m thinking. And from the Islanders’ standpoint, while you want to be frugal, at the same time you don’t want to put yourself in a position that requires more Cap Mules next year, so throwing him 2-3 million might make sense.

I’m thinking 4-6 million total, whether it’s 2-3 years is pretty attractive to both parties…

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 2, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I get the feeling next year will be Cap Mule Free

Between Frans, MacDonald, Montoya and maybe Parenteau, plus JT’s deal from this summer kicking in, the “Crazy Cheap Islanders Are Kissing the Cap Floor and Ruining EVERYTHING!!” stories will magically disappear.

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by PGI on Dec 2, 2011 1:10 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yes.

And that’s one reason I don’t mind not signing more big names. Garth is going to need that $ soon.

by Les Beaver on Dec 2, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

MacDonald is signed till 2014 at 550k

AND he’ll still be an RFA when his deal ends.

I wrote something similar a few days ago and I agree wholeheartedly. Depending on who the Islanders bring back next season and who’s on the up-and-up from juniors/Bridgeport, they’ll reach the cap floor easily.

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by Fabtraption on Dec 2, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Doh!

I knew he was making peanuts and assumed his contract was almost over. That deal is crazy.

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by PGI on Dec 2, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

So hard to guess

Things on my mind:
1) In theory revenues will go up yet again
2) But there will be a new CBA
3) The small markets will want that floor to not be fixed to $16M less than ceiling
4) But the CBA doesn’t expire until September, so teams will have to play by the current rules while wondering about what the future ones are … unless they actually get the deal done well in advance of expiration.

In summary, 2012 is gonna be wild for Mayan hockey fans.

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by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Correction

For another, the "only 60 61 jobs" problem inherently limits their leverage.

You forgot about the Islanders and their tendency to carry around the three-headed shotblocking monster.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Dec 2, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Touché

That is excellent.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Strongly doubt Montoya makes it to UFA

Snow doesnt let his sleepers get away and I think Al knows (just like Moulson and Parenteau) he’d still be in the minors if it wernt for Garth.

Only God saves more than Montoya

by backstop87 on Dec 2, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Anybody going to the game tonight?

If i can find someone to replace me on a basketball game I plan on being there.

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by skeeterman on Dec 2, 2011 9:22 AM EST reply actions  

I looked at this game back in October and had a good reason for not trying to go

Now I have no idea what that reason was. (Must’ve been job-related.)

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Any Winnipeg fans that booed Shane Doan last night should be forced to watched their team move every year for the rest of their lives

Gee, sorry this guy was a 19-year-old rookie when a bunch of millionaire businessmen and the NHL decided to move your team to the States, where he’s been an All Star and an ambassador for the sport and where his kids were born and raised. I don’t care how open the wounds still are. That’s 100% bullshit. Really? Shane Doan?

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by PGI on Dec 2, 2011 9:31 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

i agree with you 100%

i understand its hard to lose your team, but you just made yourselves look like a bunch of 5 year old kids who were pissed off because they didnt get that n64 they wanted so badly for christmas

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Dec 2, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

The massive disclaimer in that video's description

is almost better than the video.

I’m not a crappy parent! Honest!

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he put that in there when he had comments open

Saw this awhile ago and many of the comments were pretty venemous.

The kind of stuff you never see on the internet

by Dorfer on Dec 2, 2011 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I swear

People on the internet ruin everything on the internet.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Seriously

I’m glad we don’t see much of that here. Anyway, why isn’t DiPietro starting tonight? Can we please call up Gillies already? Always thought Jeff Tambellini got a raw deal here…what a mistake by Garth.

by Dorfer on Dec 2, 2011 6:09 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

They booed shane doan? Wow. Typical bandwagon fans.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 2, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I was saying Boo-urns.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't get it.

It’s not like Shane Doan forced the Jets to move to Phoenix.

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 2, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

If he was truly loyal he would have went in breach of contract, walked away, and demanded a 20y contract with the Manitoba Moose. By remaining an NHL player he was spitting in the faces of the TRUE fans.

I totally believe this, too.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

It was weird

It seemed like symbolic booing — like they don’t want to boo the entire team all night, so he’s the serviceable rep having been a Jet — rather than hateful booing.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I think everyone here missed Doan's statements dishing Winnipeg

Saying he would rather relocate to Quebec City than go back to Winnipeg and that most of his teamates wouldn’t want to go to Winnipeg.

Thou shalt not recognize false enemies, they are the Rangers, you shall have no other enemies before them.
AND "Thank you Dale Tallon"

by since70too on Dec 2, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The goalie list

Interesting to see DP nestled in between … Patrick Lalime and Olaf Kolzig! Hmmm, what are those guys doing now? Is there room for one more?

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 2, 2011 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

hating the Leafs and Pens?

(Just like you can tell an Isles fan’s date of entry by how much he hates the Leafs or Pens, you can tell a Blues fan’s by whether he hates the Hawks or the Wings more.)

But EVERYONE hates the Rangers. (or at least they should.)

by martylnd on Dec 2, 2011 9:49 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

I met the Rangers last year

For Business reasons attended a Rangers game last year and got to meet the players after the game. I have to say they appeared to be a bunch of good guys. Little did they know a Islander fan had entered their locker room. Lundqvist, Callahan, Boyle, Boogaard (RIP), Prust; all good guys. Except Gilroy looked like he was going to punch me when I asked if he was an Isles fan growing up in L.I. He said "No! (with an expression that read, “Are you F*&%ing crazy asking me that question?”).
So I concluded, Ranger players are ok (except Avery of course), now their owners and fans? that’s another story.
by the way, Apparently it is a big deal if you step on the Ranger logo in the carpet in the center of the lockerroom. My co-worker kept forgeting and was quickly reminded by various Rangers to not let Torts catch him standing on the logo. Cracked me up.

by JoRiverside on Dec 2, 2011 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I would SO keep stepping on it.
“Oh, sorry!”
“Oops!”
“Oh yea, right!”

Frickin gigantic logo lol.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

With Boogaard in the room

I didn’t go anywhere near the logo. That guy was huge. but a very good guy.

by JoRiverside on Dec 2, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

coffee on the monitor on that one

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by JW1970 on Dec 2, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

careful

Remember what happened to Terrell Owens when he danced on the star in Dallas. I always liked George Teague for his response.

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by mikb on Dec 2, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

The response was awesome.

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by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

And this is why the put the logo on the FLOOR?!?!?

Some traditions are just stupid. Le’s put our logo on the floor in the middle of the locker room and then let’s make a rule to not step on it.

Next rule make urinal cakes with the Ranger logo on it and then piss in the showers so that we don’t piss on the logo.

by Hockey1919 on Dec 2, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Put a hockey rink on the floor, visualize play, or perhaps do a nice oriental pattern that hides stick tape and gatorade spills.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Wild fans rave about how cool Boogie was

Much like Isles fans say about Trevor.

It’s amazing how the goons are the nicest to the fans a lot. I guess you have to be when you spend your life sticking up for other people and have to bust your ass to get to the NHL, and I’m sure they both appreciate their time in the NHL more than a lot of star players do.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL

You guys are hilarious

by JoRiverside on Dec 2, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if Gilroy...

…was a Panther fan growing up?

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@JPinVA

by JPinVA on Dec 2, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Boogaard was not playing due to an undisclosed injury

I actually had the guts to ask him if he got hurt fighting Gillies a week or two earlier. He was a good sport about it. He let out a big laugh and said no.

by JoRiverside on Dec 2, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

A question like that could have blown your cover lol.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

That could have gotten ugly

You blew my covah!

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Not just the rag$

Alot of clubs have their logos off limits.

Only God saves more than Montoya

by backstop87 on Dec 2, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

They better start Al Montoya tonight.

If they dont, then that tells me Garth has significant
input on lineup decisions that should be purely the head coaches duties.

by The Danish Backhand of Judgement on Dec 2, 2011 10:31 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

If we don't start montoya against the better team(hawks), I am gonna be pissed.

Hell, if he miraculously has an “easier” night, 20-25shots or limited scoring chances, maybe we can even roll him back to back.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 2, 2011 11:02 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Personally, I think Capuano should put out no one BUT Montoya for the first minute.

Let him take the face off, make a few saves to warm up, then send out the rest of the team. THAT is how you show faith in a goalie, IMHO.

by Les Beaver on Dec 2, 2011 11:11 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

awesome

Montoya toe-drags around Hjalmarsson and hits the post.

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 2, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Here the thing:

They better start Al Montoya tonight. If they dont, then that tells me Garth has significant
input on lineup decisions that should be purely the head coaches duties.

It is my assertion that people (not pointing to you specifically) will promote this conspiracy theory regardless.
After all- if he DOES start Montoya tonight, will that erase this notion from your minds? Or will it just be brought up again the next game, and the next game, and so on?

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 11:20 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

conspiracy theory? I don't give a crap about that!

All I know we have ONE quality NHL caliber goalie right now, and it EL CUBANO GRANDE. Play him until he tires out.

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Dec 2, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN)OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

You might not give a crap

But I was responding to Danish Backhand of Judgement, who had brought it up again. Please realize my point: The last time Montoya wasnt played everyone was so sure THEY had the explanation- a half million angry rants regarding wild conspiracy theories. His injury status came out later- but I didnt see ANY of the ranters eating crow and acknowledging that all the elaborately constructed conspiracies regarding ownership and/or the GM usurping coaching control were- baseless. In fact, its more like they act like it still happened the way they (incorrectly) thought it was happening.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Conspiracy theories on the internet...

what a novel concept!

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@JPinVA

by JPinVA on Dec 2, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

True, true...

point well taken, JP.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

That would involve them

acknowledging that the Islanders exist.

"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science

by PGI on Dec 2, 2011 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

How can anyone call another paranoid when the people out to get them really exist?!

Can one be an atheist toward a hockey team? That means I have NO faith anymore.

by Turgeon1992 on Dec 2, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thats exactly how I saw it.

I did not read anything into conspiracy theory, it was what it was, he was unable to play. As for who starts? You go with EL CUBANO GRANDE until his “huevos” fall off. Never was one for the tin foil hat!

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Dec 2, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

My Name...

…Is Al Montoya…you make me backup…prepare to die..

by 7:11_OT on Dec 2, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

:)

Hey, youre honest about it lol.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Scarred? Conflicted? Is this normal?

So the other day I’m watching the Rangers vs the Pens, and I found myself pulling for the Rangers. WTF? Then I read the Pens are playing (Dale Hunter and the) Caps – who i never really had more than passing indifference for, at least lately, and find myself ROOTING for the friggin Penguins! Will this pass? I can’t live like this. I mean, granted, Dan Bylsma is a great coach and and handsome man, but I can’t root for the Rangers and Penguins. It’s awful. Fire Dale Hunter so I can get my life back on track.

by Les Beaver on Dec 2, 2011 11:09 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

So the other day I’m watching the Rangers vs the Pens, and I found myself pulling for the Rangers. WTF?

Me too. But I felt so dirty afterwards.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

HaHa

And I got roasted and cooked like a pig at a beach BBQ in another thread when I mentioned about watching the Rags with my son…..And I NEVER said I rooted for them. LOL :)

I have to admit, I am extremely envious of the Pens and their stable goaltending, mobile defense, even line combinations and probably the best coach in the NHL. I hate Cindy but you have to admire what the man does and the skills on the ice.

by Tazman19 on Dec 2, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I hate Mario.

With his stupid comments and hypocritical actions and his statue making pretend that he dominated the Islanders, screw him. Seriously.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I agree BUT...

Mario was AWESOME – I was talking to my son the other night about how sorry I was he didnt get to see him play in his prime.

by Tazman19 on Dec 2, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

You can be a good player and still be a loathsome hypocritical whiny douche.

The existence of Mario proves this.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I find fans of other teams hate Mario too. they don’t like his crying.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

And, true

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Not arguing, I believe it was rigged too

But is there some kind of proof that we now know about?

Always been shady, imo.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

No, no proof

I’m just being strikethrough-happy.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I used to love Mario, too.

As a player… when he became a self-entitled, spoiled brat, partial owner… not so much.

Can one be an atheist toward a hockey team? That means I have NO faith anymore.

by Turgeon1992 on Dec 2, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I never gave 2 craps about him, really

But then again, I’m not a sports fan who loves the superstars, the role players and the lunch pail guys are always my favorites.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Baseball!

Only God saves more than Montoya

by backstop87 on Dec 2, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Purely for metaphor's sake

I assure you.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant it in a simpleton way,

not an angry “why is the word baseball on our hockey blog!” way. It was just my own observations on the conversation. You do bring up a new topic though: Baseball somehow continues to overshadow hockey in DECEMBER! At least in New York, not sure about mid west. You really cant escape it.

Only God saves more than Montoya

by backstop87 on Dec 2, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha

Oh, definitely in the MIdwest. The Cubs are … doing something, and the Cardinals have a new manager and have to deal with Pujols, etc.

The Blues are on an 8-1-x something or other run and the Cardinals still get equal coverage based on how the new manager is decorating his office.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 3, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

rec'd

…like Mario’s three-peat.

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 2, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

one day

we will cheer for the islanders.

I found myself doing the same thing.

by ghalbart on Dec 2, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I cheer for the isles now

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

hells yes

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 2, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Hell, I found myself rooting for the Pens over the Caps, and I kinda' liked the Caps

But not now.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

it can get much worse

What happens if the caps play the rags in the playoffs again this season, who do you root for then

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Dec 2, 2011 11:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Easy, the Rags

They have Torts (Former Amerks coach) and Ryan Callahan (Rochester native) and they don’t try to kill people once they know they are done for the year.

And I don’t live around 3 million Rags fans like most of you.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I would also root for the Rags in that series....

But with a heavy dose of alcohol so I dont remember…:)

Sucks to see my son upset (he is a Rags fan). Now my wife, I dont mind seeing her brood over an early Rags playoff exit. ;)

by Tazman19 on Dec 2, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Bro, how did your boy pick your wife's team over yours?

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

You got hosed

You should’ve shown him video of Nystrom. ;o)

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL

The other night, I was showing him the video of why I hate Dale Hunter so much and then had to show him the Bates penalty shot against Toronto just to prove the Coliseum was once a loud and exciting building. LOL

by Tazman19 on Dec 2, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of which....

Dale Hunter 0-2 with the Caps!! Was difficult to root for the Pens the other night,.

by 4PeatSake on Dec 2, 2011 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

If he misbehaves

Tell him you’ll show him the Kenny Morrow goal from 1984.

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 2, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

my dad indoctrinated me into this cult ehen i wad

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Dec 2, 2011 12:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

were you drugged at the time lol?

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

no...the real love started when i was barely 3

he took me to an isles flyers game in fall of 95…its the only memory i have from when i was younger than 5 because well, it was my first hockey game ever, and someone shattered the glass behind the flyers net with a nasty check…probably kasparitis

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Dec 2, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

my dad indoctrinated me into this cult when i was born

There are photos in my house of me decked out in isles gear from the moment I was born…you have to start em early

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Dec 2, 2011 12:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I had a small Islanders cap on my daughter the day she was born

When they took the new born pictures, she had two – one with the regular white hospital cap and one with the blue and orange Islanders one. We used one of each on her birth announcement.

"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science

by PGI on Dec 2, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you get your daughter

in the 3rd jersey / dress her like a pumpkin for halloween?

by 4PeatSake on Dec 2, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah

She does have a little hoodie/sweatpants combo. I’ll get her a jersey one day.

She split time this Halloween as a bumblebee and a Junior Green Lantern.

"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science

by PGI on Dec 2, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

adorable

My two neices went as a bunny (elder) and a carrot (younger).

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 2, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

that is great!

"If the bell needs to be answered, we've got the guys to answer it." "If they want to start something, that's fine."- Trevor Gillies

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by JW1970 on Dec 2, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Awesome!

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 2, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

You people brainwashing your kids into being Isles fans

Why don’t you just curse them for life some other way. Something less painful. Jessh, have a heart.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Some of us

are making them Mets fans too. Don’t call Child Services on me!

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 2, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Rodney says
I had him for a season when he was like 7, but she was home at the time and got to drill Rags into his head 24/7

Now I know why tigers eat their young.

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by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I was always threatened I'd be kick out of my house if I rooted for the Rags

that also worked

You wouldn't believe how good the Corsi is for my NHL 12 Be A Pro player.

by ArsenalLI on Dec 2, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I was sooooo conflicted!

That was a tough one and last night I was forced to endure the Caps vs Pens game (I was working on christmas gifts in the living room).

At one point in the game (can’t remember exactly what it was) Steigerwald said something I “told him” to STFU because I just couldn’t stand the homerism anymore. My hubby thought I was just nuts and I had to explain the issue and I made him just sit and try to objectively listen to the things that came out of his mouth. I think he actually got it.

"If the bell needs to be answered, we've got the guys to answer it." "If they want to start something, that's fine."- Trevor Gillies

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by JW1970 on Dec 2, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

and thanks to Bettman

You can’t even root for the tie anymore, so they both lose a point. Not an option. It sucks.

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 2, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Now I root for pulled groins

nothing seriously debilitating or painful, just things that eff up lineups.

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 2, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Barney's team plays with great grace and skill

But Team Pulled Groin has a bunch of guys with pulled groins.

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by mikb on Dec 2, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

"If the bell needs to be answered, we've got the guys to answer it." "If they want to start something, that's fine."- Trevor Gillies

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by JW1970 on Dec 2, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

The Devils are my usual go-to playoff team

Until last year, of course. I can’t root for the Rangers, Penguins or Flyers. Although I do own a Ron Francis Penguins jersey, but mainly because Ron Francis was awesome.

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by PGI on Dec 2, 2011 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I root for teams that have more former Islanders than the other teams.

Last year that decision was easy- I was rooting for the Lightning.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I also rooted for the Bolts for the same reason

I just can’t find myself rooting for the Rangers ever…I actually respect the team but too many obnoxious fans around me in the city and on LI. I love to see them miserable about the blueshirts (which hasn’t happened much this year dammit!)

I can’t wait for when none of us have to “rent” a playoff team come April. And we watch a team full of current Islanders :)

by GreekIsles83 on Dec 2, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

THIS

I tend to root against the team’s fans rather than the team.

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by mikb on Dec 2, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

probably because the on ice rivalry hasn't been as heated recently

give it until we’re contending again when the line brawls happen on a regular basis

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by ArsenalLI on Dec 2, 2011 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I tried not to think about him. Which wasnt easy in the playoffs lol.

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Bergie

I had his 15 minutes of fame in his carreer last playoffs.

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by Russel Ginart on Dec 2, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Nashville and the Stars

Pekka Rinne is one of my favorite players in the NHL.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Playoff rent a team....

I have to admit, tonights opponent being nothing more than a coincidence. But I found myself the last 2 years rooting for the Hawks. Kane one of my favorite players in the league.

by Tazman19 on Dec 2, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Kane

If there are not enough former Islanders for me to root for on a team, my next factor is Team USA players.

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

No doubt, Team USA is huge for me.

Ryan Miller and Parise being 2 of them, but I love all the US players, except Phil Kessell.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I just joke because everybody seems to hate him

i donlt know why either. i like most american players, my first hockey memory is the Miracle on Icee.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not your fault, nobody likes him.

He looks like he was beaten with a brick-bat.

Only God saves more than Montoya

by backstop87 on Dec 2, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Ryan Miller was so amazing for Team USA.

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Toews! He's the heart and selke candidate! lol

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 2, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

He wont be playing for Team USA any time soon, Ozzy lol.

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

lol. I forgot that part. Toews is a tremendous player though.

And to think the Pens could have had Crosby/Malkin/Toews if they didn’t draft Staal.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Dec 2, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Nice...

I wore #19 the entire time I played up to mens league in honor of my all time two favorites, Bryan Trottier and Steve Yzerman.

by Tazman19 on Dec 2, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I did the same thing..........

I wore my #31 and #30 until I hung up the pads in 1993.

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by Russel Ginart on Dec 2, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I still wear 19 and my wearing it pre-dates Trottier.

It just made it easier for him to be my all-time favorite.

by Hockey1919 on Dec 2, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

always considered the hawks my western conference team

my older brother’s roller hockey team was the hawks when i was little and i always loved the jersey

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by ArsenalLI on Dec 2, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I am still debating

on getting a Ron Francis Hartford jersey…….I soooo want a Whalers jersey.

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by JW1970 on Dec 2, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Chicago is pretty beatable IMO

If we can play with some speed and force them to hook and hold we can get that horrible PK on the ice and take advantage.

Let’s look at the last 6 games. Lose 5-2 to Calgary, Lose 9-2 to Edmonton!, Get shutout 1-0 against San Jose, squeak out a 6-5 win against the Ducks (who have been the worst team in the league the last couple weeks), beat the Kings 2-1 on a good game by Crawford, and lose 4-1 to Phoenix. They are not at all playing like the ‘best team in the west’. Their last dominant win was 5-1 against the Canucks on Nov 16th and guess what happened that night? They didn’t have to kill off a single penalty. If we can get them in the box we can win this.

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by Anarcurt on Dec 2, 2011 11:40 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

They've been playing poorly in their end

I just figure they’re inherently good, and the home loss to PHX should’ve been a wake-up call to come into this one focused.

Also, I know Bossy doesn’t love me enough to have the Blackhawks lose to the Islanders and Blues on consecutive nights.

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by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

our horrible PP vs their horrible PK

in an epic battle of who cares less about executing, who will win?

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by ArsenalLI on Dec 2, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Does this fall under the category of.........

“Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory”?

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by Russel Ginart on Dec 2, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Or what happens when....

a stopable force meets a moveable object

by 4PeatSake on Dec 2, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Al's in

Arthur Staple
StapeNewsday Arthur Staple
Al Montoya gets the start in goal for #Isles in his hometown vs. Hawks. Haley healthy scratch, D Andrew MacDonald (leg) game-time decision.
1 minute ago

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 2, 2011 12:42 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Good luck Toyota

Always nice when a guy can play well in his hometown (like Lawson in Calgary last year).

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 2, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry

Butch calling him that was just too funny. I can’t get past it.

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 2, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

What is Butch going to do with Hjalmarsson?

Can one be an atheist toward a hockey team? That means I have NO faith anymore.

by Turgeon1992 on Dec 2, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Good defense there by Larsson

Didn’t know Adam had an older brother in the league, Howie… Good defense runs in the family.

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by mikb on Dec 2, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Well he's not a corolla or a tercel.

He’s a Tacoma or a Land Cruiser.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 2, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah it was a bit of Butchery

But aside from a laugh at Butchies usual mangling of names, I think a Japanese compact carmaker really is a bad nickname for a good sized Cuban American goalie people are happy with.

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Cuban American goalie

THAT WAS ME at one time!!!

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by Russel Ginart on Dec 2, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

No Haley, no gritz

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Somebody posted that the other day when Haley was scratched

i forget who it was but the post was:

“But waht about the Gritz!!?” made me laugh. Probably funniest post ever here.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that

Was AP77

Constantly building for the future.

by pgat28 on Dec 2, 2011 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

And if he plays well

I say play him again in Dallas. He’s a young kid, he can sleep on the plane (or does he do the twitter thing on the plane?)

by JoRiverside on Dec 2, 2011 12:47 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I don't know about this

If the Islanders CAN mount a comeback for the playoffs, I wouldn’t want to see Montoya exhausted by the time February rolls around. The Islanders have a lot of games in December and January, so they need to make some kind of tandem work out between Montoya and DP/Nabokov without overworking Montoya.

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by Fabtraption on Dec 2, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You are of course correct.

But there are some Isles fans who will just not want to hear it. The minute another goalie starts a game, its mayhem in their minds… even if the other goalie plays well, or wins, it doesnt seem to really matter.

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy shit, are you still on this?

=d

by AP77 on Dec 2, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Responding to topics that other people bring up? Yup, Im still "on that". Imagine!

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

She is our Don Quixote...

and DP is her Dulcinea!

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by JPinVA on Dec 2, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure that's not the case, if I am getting my literary characters straight

She might be more of a Ralph or Simon, to RDP’s Piggy? I’d need to spend some more time on Wikipedia. And maybe reading (and retaining what I am reading) more.

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by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 2, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd love to help you out..

but the thought of somebody reading Don Quixote to disprove my analogy is making me warm all over.

Considering I had to read it in Spanish in HS your investment in clicking here will most likely retain far more value than mine has over these past 30 years. The only thing I remember from that class was that the Spanish Lit teacher was absolutely gorgeous… and as a teacher in an all boys high school I am pretty sure she went home with absolutely no self esteem issues.

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by JPinVA on Dec 2, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Didnt read it.

But my point has been more to look at whats actually going on. Ive made the case that Nabokov will get starts when he is healthy again and that people are way too fixated on DiPietro- to the point of completely imagining favoritism that (rightfully) no longer exists. I really cannot figure out how that is constantly being mentally manipulated into as “defending” him.

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish I could be at happy hour. :(

=d

by AP77 on Dec 2, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Happy hour is awesome. :)

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Backlash to the backlash

I think “some Isles fans” in this case just want that “another goalie” to be someone not named Rick. Montoya should obviously get spelled occasionally, like during the schedule-heavy Dec/Jan — but by a capable backup; unfortunately, the only capable backup on the roster is injured.

Should we stop folks from complaining that Mottau is in again (i.e., why can’t HE be the possible scratch if AMac can’t play), even if the Isles win?

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by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 2, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I agree

Rick is really the last person I want in net for this team, but I don’t want to harp on an often discussed topic. Relying on Montoya to start all back-to-backs and three-games-in-four-nights could possibly the hinder the team for the rest of the season more than giving Rick the occasional game. I’m sure this will stabilize in a few weeks once Nabby’s back, but still – I wouldn’t be against giving Rick a start on a back-to-back if it gives Montoya a rest.

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by Fabtraption on Dec 2, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Hard to blame them

Islanders wins = Happy Islanders fans
DiPietro = Worst goalie in NHL
DiPietro starting = Less of a chance of Islanders wins
Less of a chance of Islanders wins = Increased probability of unhappy Islanders fans

With that said, it’s probably prudent to give Toyota a rest this weekend.

by Dorfer on Dec 2, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind Monty getting a crapload of starts right now

and then Nabby getting a crapload when he’s back. I really don’t want to see much of DP right now at all. If there’s any playoff talk left (already), best foot has to go forward…which still leaves us with the baffling decision to keep doing Mottau’s laundry.

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 2, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t mind Monty getting a crapload of starts right now

He already is… the Isles have started him every chance they could for close to a month now.
I dont expect that to really change at all until Nabokov is 100% and ready to play.

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh that's right

I forgot. I take back my comment Fab…apologies for wasting your time.

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 2, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You're forgiven

…for now. One more step out of line, Keith, and it’s curtains for Tiny Town.

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by Fabtraption on Dec 2, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Basic point was

Beating one into the ground until the other is healthy and then beating him into the ground while the other recovers until there is a better breakdown available.

And having DP get no starts if possible or 1 out of 10 or something.

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 2, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

You say tomato, I say tomato

We’ll agree on this – the less DiPietro starts, the better it is for all of us.

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by Fabtraption on Dec 2, 2011 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Caveat

If we are out of it by the end of December, let DP play all he wants. I am sure he will “Nail” it.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 2, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

And then we will give him a big "tank" you!

I’m here all weekend…

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 2, 2011 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

That sounds like a Dumba idea

his play makes me Yakupovariety of things

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 2, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

You've totally been saving that one up, haven't you?

Regardless – bravo, sir.

Success was survival and, kid, it still is

by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 2, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not going to rec that

Even though it insists upon itself.

Only God saves more than Montoya

by backstop87 on Dec 2, 2011 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

?

apologies for wasting your time.

Could you maybe explain WTH in my comment said or even somewhat implied that?

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Its pretty crazy that I get comments like this even when I agree with you.

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

There have been a ton of posts on

how a lot of commenters don’t notice how the goalie usage has been, and then you tell me how he is already getting the majority of starts when I’m suggesting that he should going forward.

Seemed like you were giving me the denying reality bit.

I apologize if I misinterpreted.

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 2, 2011 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for saying so

You said how they should ride Montoya- which makes sense to me, and I think the Isles seem to agree too- since they look like they are already doing it recently. Nothing to argue over in that- agreed? :)

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

We could just stack some of the slouches in the crease like cord wood

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 2, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

YES!

better than he plays defense anyway. Snow angels can stop low shots!

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by skeeterman on Dec 2, 2011 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed

Plus rebounds would be swept to the boards, rather than the silver platter normally left by Isles goaltending.

Success was survival and, kid, it still is

by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 2, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Mottau's in per twitter

I guess Reese is a scratch if Amac is okay.

What does Mottau need to do to get scratched?

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 2, 2011 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

A-Mac is a game time decision

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Dec 2, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

But aren't we all

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not that Mottau is doing or not doing anything

During practice Cappy traditionally lets people know they’re playing in the next game by lining them up on the blue line and tapping them on the shinpads and says “you’re in”

When he gets to Mottau this happens all the time:

“Hey Johnny, I could’ve sworn I already told you you’re playing. Oh well, you’re in. Man I must’ve worked you way too hard in practice Johnny, you look 10 years older. Take it easier next practice, ok? You’re my star.”

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by Chris McNally on Dec 2, 2011 2:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

Reminds me of this kid, about 8 years old sitting by me at the Isles Habs game. He asked me who my favorite Islander is.

Me: "Travis Hamonic, but I like Al Montoya a lot too. What about you?
KID: “JT. How old is JT?”
Me: “I think he’s 21.”
Kid: “He looks 31.”

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 2, 2011 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Playing for the Islanders ages you

Exhibit A: Billy Smith’s hair, or lackthereof
Exhibit B: Rick DiPietro’s knees, hips…yada, yada.

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by PGI on Dec 2, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Not that I want to see either

happen to JT, of course.

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by PGI on Dec 2, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you looked at pics of Grabner lately...

On the splash page on the home site he looks like he is playing senior hockey in boca raton.

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by JPinVA on Dec 2, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard a group of investors from a retirement community in Florida was interested in buying the team

Dickie Dunn wrote it so it must be true!

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by PGI on Dec 2, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

He was just trying to capture the spirit of the thing

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by mikb on Dec 2, 2011 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn, I think you might have figured it out lol!!!

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by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Lose the pictures...
What does Mottau need to do to get scratched?

…of Garth taking advantage of the Islanders’ snow blower. You know… using team property for personal use could get him fired!

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by JPinVA on Dec 2, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

He gets scratched for the third, often.

Maybe Cappy is unsure how the scratch system works.

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by Turgeon1992 on Dec 2, 2011 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Could be on to something

He scratches Mottau for the third, the goalie for the final sixth…

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by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I got a kick out of the sub title of the headline...

but it needs to add….shoot on goal…..shooting and missing the net ain’t gonna work

The way this is going the Captain of the next Cup contending Islanders team is still in grade school......RESULTS DO MATTER..

by Ukiddinme on Dec 2, 2011 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

Driver

I remember being a kid and watching Isles games. Jiggs used to call (and it must have happened frequently for me to remember this): “Driver with a drive. That goes wide.” Poetic.

Wonder what synonym for wide rhymes with Okposo. Anyone? Anyone?

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by khrudey30 on Dec 2, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

vs. the devils

of course.

"Live from the Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Uniondale, New York - Sportschannel presents, New York Islanders hockey. Tonight, the New York Islanders take on..." -Jiggs

by khrudey30 on Dec 2, 2011 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

So I wanted nothing to do with Chicago Stadium (a younger, dumber version of myself may or may not have ceremonially relieved himself on its facade…

You seem to have Ranger-level hatred for them. Must be cool to be able to double down on the hate like that.

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Dec 2, 2011 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

I’ve been to a ball or two with Silky Johnson in my day…

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by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I have done that on two occasions in my foolish youth: on Chicago Stadium and in the Rhine (in honor of Patton). Stupid, both, yet I can’t say I feel regret.

There’s enough of that at MSG already, I’d only add to the muck.

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by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for sharing, and for the link. I don’t see why I had to type in my birthday to see the video, though.

by Paumanok on Dec 2, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Bad Feeling

This jus tseems like one of those games where i clear out my schedule to watch and it’s 5-0 Chicago at the end of the 1st. The Isles have no answer for Andrew Brunette.

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by khrudey30 on Dec 2, 2011 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

Yup.

I have a feeling that Al lays an egg tonight. Maybe it’s all those sentimental quotes of his about being back in Chicago.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Dec 2, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

The Hawks's line-up is extremely deep

It’s one scoring line after another. And, Mottau and Reese are going to be out on the ice with one or more of them over the course of the game. Might be time for a “Hey, they played well, but…you know” tonight.

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by PGI on Dec 2, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yakupov

Is there any chance we are bad enough this year to get him?

"Live from the Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Uniondale, New York - Sportschannel presents, New York Islanders hockey. Tonight, the New York Islanders take on..." -Jiggs

by khrudey30 on Dec 2, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think so.

We’re just not bad enough. We need to suck more. FIRE GARTH SNOW!

by Les Beaver on Dec 2, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

No.

Unless we win the lottery of course.

So, no.

by Paumanok on Dec 2, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

great quote

love it. mad mike came up with some gems.

"Live from the Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Uniondale, New York - Sportschannel presents, New York Islanders hockey. Tonight, the New York Islanders take on..." -Jiggs

by khrudey30 on Dec 2, 2011 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

speaking of quotes

Yours is a winner. You will never fail with Isles fans invoking Jiggs and the classic game intro.

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 2, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but they have not been playing all that well lately

They could get 3 or 4 past us and their horrible PK and erratic goaltending could keep us in it or even win it.

No Sleep 'til....Belmont?

by Anarcurt on Dec 2, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont think so.

The Isles just have to do what they havent really been doing this season- score goals.
And Crawford is not invincible, not by a long shot. (or any shot. Just take shots.)

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 2, 2011 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he lays a goose egg?

Crazy, dangerous night — could easily waste my Friday — but ya never know…

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by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I was gonna say

Al will be under some pressure tonight with family and friends watchn/in attendance. I’m interested to see how he responds.

Only God saves more than Montoya

by backstop87 on Dec 2, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

and what about Parenteau?

PA made his NHL debut as a Blackhawk in 2007, one assist in five games. He played his only home game in Chicago on February 16th against Vancouver. OH THE PRESSURE!

(Holy cow, his teamates in that game included Bryan Smolinski, James Wisniewski, and Peter Bondra. That was less than five years ago! Strange world.)

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by mikb on Dec 2, 2011 5:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

*sigh*

I miss when the Hawks were so beatable.

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by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow

And that team had Jassen [sic] Cullimore, who at one time was thought to be a poor man’s Adrian Aucoin but instead was usually a poor man’s Jassen [sic] Cullimore.

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by Dominik on Dec 2, 2011 6:06 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Not only the poor man's Adrian Aucoin...

…but the actual Adrian Aucoin as well.

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by mikb on Dec 2, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Our guys seem to do well when family is in attendace

I mean, Jeff Tambellini scored a hat trick…yeah, thats what I said too.

Only God saves more than Montoya

by backstop87 on Dec 2, 2011 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

[just $25 extra per bag] Center

Dominik, this cracked me up! They better not be over weight either or that’ll cost you another $25.

by SJG in NJ on Dec 2, 2011 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

Something to keep an eye on

Phoenix’s reap of the Montoya trade: http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/roster/show/id/1339
A 6th overall for a 6th rounder. Still early, but I’d say we came out on top.

Only God saves more than Montoya

by backstop87 on Dec 2, 2011 7:30 PM EST reply actions  


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1979-80


May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.

The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.

1980-81


May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.

Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.

1981-82


May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.

A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.

1982-83


May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.

Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.


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