Islanders vs. Stars Gameday: Calvin de Haan up; Kevin Poulin starts
by Dominik on Dec 15, 2011 10:43 AM EST
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PrintSteve Staios sits out tonight due to a possible concussion [Newsday | FanShot discussion], so Calvin de Haan draws the lucky call to take his place. Also on the metaphorical ferry, Kevin Poulin has been recalled with Evgeni Nabokov being re-evaluated and feared not quite ready to go. Rick DiPietro is retroactively placed on IR to make room.
Stars (17-11-1, 6th/W) @ Islanders (9-13-6, 14th/E)
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Star-gazers: Defending Big D
While de Haan gets his formal NHL debut, Poulin will make his first NHL start of the year. After a great 10-game NHL debut last season (2.44, .924), Poulin's numbers have been rougher so far this season in Bridgeport (13 GP, 3.37, .892). The Stars will again start super-rookie Richard Bachman, who kindly shutout the Rangers Tuesday night.
[Post is updated with more tidbits below.]
When last these teams met, Mark Fistric "launched" himself in a Shanabannable way at Nino Niederreiter, who is now skating but still rebuilding his conditioning after sitting out thanks to the resulting concussion. Fistric's three-game suspension is now over, so he's eligible to return but will not have young Nino to target tonight [and, in fact, will not even be in the lineup. He's a scratch.].
Kari Lehtonen, such a key to the Stars' early surge, is still on IR but lately it hasn't mattered -- Salt Lake-born Bachman has offered one inspiring trio of games in a pinch. Bachman got 10 minutes of coffee with the Stars last year, but in this three-game stint he's allowed just one goal on 72 shots, spanning seven periods.
That's too bad, because last time we saw the Stars, Matt Moulson hung four goals on Andrew Raycroft. Then again, last time we saw the Stars, they hung four on Rick DiPietro. Fair's fair, I guess.
On that note, this is a rare kind of opponent for the Islanders: A team that both puts fewer shots on goal and gives up more shots on its own net. For the Stars, those figures are 28.2 for and 32.7 against (worst in the league) per game; for the Isles, it's 29.2 for and 31 against (20th in the league). Just get the puck to Moulson and see what happens, right?
Just for Fun: The Stars official site offers a fun photo montage of that team's trip to Long Island, with the usual nod to Father Of Son Of Nystrom.
Islanders Lineup
Again, the big news is Poulin starting and de Haan joining the fray. It appears de Haan will pair with sometimes Bridgeport partner Dylan Reese. Which is loading up on comfort (with each other) and offensive instincts, but not so much on defensive might.
If that sticks, it likely means Mark Streit and Travis Hamonic stay together, leaving ... Milan Jurcina and Mike Mottau. Well, we'll see about all that at game time.
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Hopefully replace Mottau long term.
Please Bossy. Please.
by afrosupreme on Dec 15, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Ha, thanks
A boy can dream, can’t he?
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I think he meant
we have lost 17,111 man games to injury last two years.
Please, hockey gods…..CDH is just a kid….please, protect him….it’s almost Christmas, for Bossy’s sake. Amen.
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by CharlieIsles on Dec 15, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Oh feline master, can you not allow us our illusions?
LOL
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by ogam5 on Dec 15, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Isles easy win;
We are 17-11 after all! I must have missed a few big games…
And attended a few others that didn't really exist.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Dec 15, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone know..
… If the AHL call-ups really take the ferry over when they get called up?
It seems so pedestrian, but then again, it makes the most sense to get from Bridgeport to Long Island
by BaltimoreIslander on Dec 15, 2011 10:49 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I think it would be pretty cool if they actually do
Also, going from Bridgeport to Port Jefferson is just a little more motivation for them to want to get the hell out of Bridgeport and onto Long Island.
Maybe they can ride over at the Bow of the ship
Like Kate Winslet in Titanic
by JoRiverside on Dec 15, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Just not CDH
He might dislocate a shoulder holding his arms out like that.
by Dorfer on Dec 15, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I feel like I'm flying
Maybe he’ll sit on the upper deck of the ferry peacefully relaxing
like Bruce Willis in The Jackel
You guys gots it all wrong
This guy swoops in and carriers our prospects across the sound!
by GreekIsles83 on Dec 15, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
At least he is strong enough to do it.
Better than that femme Ranger dude.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 15, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Did they model him after Avery?
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 15, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Apparently this whole marketing plan cost the NHL and Marvel millions of dollars
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Good.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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Yeah, they could've spent the millions
educating their offcials to not guess when they want to throw a hard working good kid out of a game he waited all his life to play in.
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 15, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
What are you referencing?
Stainer of mountaintops.
by Chairman Meow on Dec 15, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Wasted too
They completely stopped the project after about 3 months, they only got through about 6 of the “Guardians” hysterical
No they didnt, they got through all of them.
They just didnt do any of the things they were going to do after all of that.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 15, 2011 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Does anyone know..
… If the AHL call-ups really take the ferry over when they get called up?
It seems so pedestrian, but then again, it makes the most sense to get from Bridgeport to Long Island
by BaltimoreIslander on Dec 15, 2011 10:51 AM EST via mobile reply actions
It would be call if they did huh
Very Long Island.
I think they all just drive though dude. They get car service in some cases I think.
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Taxi
Last year when Joel Martin got called up because Poulin got hurt, he mentioned that the team paid all sorts of extra money to the taxi driver to get him from BP to Nassau in time.
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Ferry might have been better
Coming down from Bridgeport in NYC rush hour traffic at 6:30PM, he’d probably have been down quicker if he’d taken a taxi to the ferry and a taxi to the Coli.
by dunnowhat2type on Dec 15, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Thats what I remember as well
Taxi/Car Service
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BPJ Ferry runs 1hr15min
drive from PJ to NVMC ~1hr+ to 30 min (traffic to speeding)
25A-Nicholls Rd-347-Northern State-Meadowbrook
"..."
by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on Dec 15, 2011 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
It disappointed me that with the traditional “shuttle” references for callups, “ferry” never caught on. So I figured I’d throw it out there.
Ultimately, I think it depends on how much time’s involved (whether they drive themselves or get the limo treatment), like Mark said about Martin last year.
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Don't pay the ferryman....
don’t even set a price…
by 4PeatSake on Dec 15, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow
I hear the synthesizer warming up.
(Yet for some reason that reference evokes Castlevania II: Simon’s Quest for me. What a decade.)
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what a reference
Ooops, gotta go, almost time for the senior prom!
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Dec 15, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
My favorite NES game of all time
In 1989, it made Missile Command look like a still photograph.
Also, at the time, it was impossible. Now, knowing where to go, I could finish it in probably 90 minutes.
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Really loved that game
Just thinking about it now seriously brought back unexpected nostalgia. I was never into Zelda, so this one was the first journey-ish game that sucked me in.
I remember searching far and wide for the Nintendo Power issue that had enough secrets to let me finally beat it.
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Dont bust on Missle Command.
Ive never had a game where I could consistently beat all my friends except for that one lol.
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by TheMetalChick on Dec 15, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
I love Missile Command
But when I played Castlevania II it was like stepping into an old monster movie. Missle Command’s black screen with some colored lines on it suddenly seemed less exciting.
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I still have my Atari 2600.
I havent broken it out in years, the last time was maybe in like 2005. Still works great, but my joysticks are kinda old.
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by TheMetalChick on Dec 15, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Also, at the time, it was impossible.
This is applicable to about every NES game ever made.
OHAI BATTLETOADS!
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HAHAHAHAHA
There’s actually a YouTube video of someone who successfully navigated the turbo-bike obstacle course. Bossy only knows how many tries were required.
And is this poor toad flying around through a giant brain? …with a miniature Stonehenge inside it?
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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I did it at least 3 or 4 times. But I also had the guide and memorized it from that. Still that last group of barriers is insane.
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Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
insane in the membrane, from the looks of it
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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insane in the membrane
insane in the brain
islanders hockey, making a sane person go insane during finals week
In an era of brutally difficult games
Battletoads may be the most brutally difficult of them all. Just merciless.
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i think its a tie with Ninja Gaiden
if you could figure out the pattern you could beat battletoads, but Ninja Gaiden was just brutal
islanders hockey, making a sane person go insane during finals week
Ah, the hardest game with the sweetest cut scenes
That was the first game that when I beat it I took a picture of the end screen. Good times, bad times, flying controllers >;-)
"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)
I remember breaking many a controller on nights of Battletoads.
And I was very adamant on not using a Game Genie with it.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
The nostalgia this is giving me
is kind of freaking me out.
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Then by all means
DO NOT click here.
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Bastard.
Ye gods I must’ve spent a good chunk of my life on Simon’s Quest and it’s only now coming back to me.
I think I must’ve tried the sequel after that (whatever it was) but ::sniff:: I guess it just wasn’t the same.
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Castlevania III was pretty awesome too
That was the one where you could play as Trevor Belmont, Alucard, Sypha and the greatest name in the history of video games, Grant Danasty.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
I'm loving this subthread
as Castlevania is my favorite vg franchise, the pinnacle being Symphony of the Night.
"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)
Indeed
but be sure to pick up the Castlevania games for the DS as well (if you have one). They’re all really solid games and feel (almost) like Symphony of the Night.
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by Fabtraption on Dec 16, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
This is making me feel like I feel when people talk NHL or FIFA EA
I know that if I pick it back up, I’ll descend into an unproductive heaven but without a job, a blog, a wife, or friends.
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Much better song, and better attitude I hope the Isles have toningt
Across the River Styx, out of the lamplight
His nemesis is waiting at the gate
The Snow Dog, ermine glowing in the damp night
Coal-black eyes shimmering with hate
by Katzenhammer on Dec 15, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
I know this is classic "Monday Morning Quarterbacking"...
but since it was clear that Nabby wasn’t going to play against the Habs and that Monty was tired, shouldn’t Poulin have played on Tuesday? Like Monty playing in Chicago, wouldn’t Poulin have gotten a charge playing in front of his hometown friends and fans?
I guess what I’m getting at is that someone blundered earlier in the week evaluating the condition of both Nabokov and Montoya. I think it would have been a better move to start Poulin against the Habs, giving Monty lots of rest going into tonight’s game.
Again, this is Monday Morning quarterbacking, but still…
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Yes, that'd have been safer
I’m betting Nabby was healthy enough to pass physical testing but still had lingering doubts in his head, which he must’ve become more vocal about after the trip to Montreal.
Crappy thing about a groin is you can think you’re better, docs can think you’re better, and then one weird move and you get a reminder of what’s been wrong.
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Can a groin in and of itself be crappy?
Seems unfair to the groin
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 15, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
I find them crappy myself
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I know this is classic “Monday Morning Quarterbacking”… but since it was clear that Nabby wasn’t going to play against the Habs and that Monty was tired, shouldn’t Poulin have played on Tuesday? Like Monty playing in Chicago, wouldn’t Poulin have gotten a charge playing in front of his hometown friends and fans?
I was advocating that while watching the previous game.
But, like Dom was getting at, groin injuries are a real bitch. So testy and unpredictable.
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by TheMetalChick on Dec 15, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Would it have been too much pressure to play in Montreal?
It is a tough place to play and certainly was a very winnable game.
Already the Isles have used 5 Goalies this year.
5 Goalies….and RDP is probabl;y #4 or 5 in terms of quality on that list right now.
Botta made the point yesterday in his afternoon chat that he doesn’t understand why DP is not forced to work out his injury/performance problems in BPT for a long while before he plays anymore games.
Its not like anyone in their right mind would ever claim him. He could get straightened out down there.
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Sadly, as is pointed out here frequently
He can’t go to the ’port for cap reasons.
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 15, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
I think though
He can get rehab starts, but I believe that would be 1 or 2 starts at the most.
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Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
Ah yes
A good ole-fashioned conditioning stint. I think he needs more than 1 or 2 starts, unfortunately.
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 15, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
It really is time this offseason to do away with this DP mess, right?
I mean I think it’s pretty obvious he will never be an NHL quality goaltender again.
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 15, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Play him till injuries force him to retire, or hope the new CBA allows 1 buyout
"I really wouldn’t wish rooting for both the Isles and Blues on anyone." Dominik
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
If he retires, do they have to pay him?
And when will we have a new CBA?
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 15, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
CBA is up this summer I believe
I know the team has insurance in case he has to retire early from injury. I’m not sure how much it covers.
No Sleep 'til....Belmont?
September 15th of next year
No Sleep 'til....Belmont?
But hopefully before
/crosses fingers
If they go through another stoppage, I’m out.
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Absolutely
Which will leave me with almost nothing. I’ve been out on the NFL and NBA for years, and MLB is hanging by a thread.
by afrosupreme on Dec 15, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks, guys.
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 15, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
They better have insurance....
They better have learnt their lesson from the Brett Lindros debacle!
We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!
by Russel Ginart on Dec 15, 2011 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
That's my point
They are basically hiding him at this point.
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 15, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
That's my point
They are basically hiding him at this point.
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 15, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
The CBA better not, Id be so pissed at all the ceiling brushers gatting free passes. Screw that.
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by TheMetalChick on Dec 15, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What would they do about the salary floor then?
Stainer of mountaintops.
by Chairman Meow on Dec 15, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Pay somebody who actually helps the team?
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 15, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
And if we can't find one who wants to come here?
Stainer of mountaintops.
by Chairman Meow on Dec 15, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sure anybody you give that money too will be more deserving
We could give it to Chef Bruno and it would be beter spent.
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 15, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Well
there’s a good chance the floor might actually be lower next year under the new CBA. Additionally we hopefully resign Frans and PAP, which would be a solid bump. JT’s making 2 million more next year as well.
But you have to hope they can improve at the bluline, and that’s where the low end money-wise is. Eaton, Staios, Jurcina and Mottau are 6.5 million combined. If they could spend that much on two much better players (or even more on, be still my heart, Ryan Suter alone), they should be a better team and in much better shape cap-floor-wise.
by afrosupreme on Dec 15, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Like everything else...
there’s a good chance the floor might actually be lower next year under the new CBA.
The NHL fixes things when they don’t affect the Islanders anymore.
If this team is still at the cap floor with Nielsen and Parentau to be signed, deHaan and Cizikas’ ELC added (maybe donovan’s as well) and the need to spend over $5M on a top 4 defender still on the list over the summer… I’m leaving!
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by JPinVA on Dec 15, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yea
it will be hard. Like I said there are four defensemen to replace (five if you include Reese who is also a UFA), and that is where they need to spend, so it’s hard to see how they don’t get there, but you never know.
I'm sure it wouldn't cost much to bring Mottau back.
by afrosupreme on Dec 15, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
we have to voodoo Suter into being here
We’ll hire a guy to call him “Denis” all day long, and give him wooden sticks and those old gloves with the really long cuffs, and replace all the calendars in his house with 1975 calendars. Drive him around in an old Buick or something. By July 1st we’ll have him convinced that he’s been drafted by the Isles to be their cornerstone defenseman and convince him to sign a nine year “Entry-Level Contract.”
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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So really what that means is....
The Isles are not willing to cover the cap hit if he was to move down there. If that is the reason then I guess Wang’s willingness to spend really is a bigger issue than we want to believe huh?
So the Isles would have to take on more salary at least for short term until he was moved back.
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by TheMetalChick on Dec 15, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure it's the CAP HIT alone...
If it was, then they could go get McCabe, and shouldn’t have been gun shy with trading for Kaberle. They have so many wasted contract dollars on the team right now, it’s really not a CAP ISSUE, it’s an asset management issue.
$4.5M Dipietro
$5M Rolston
$2.8M Nino
$1.4M Pandolfo
$1.35M Reasoner
$2.5M Eaton
$1.6M Staios
$.8M Mottau
$3M Yashin/Witt
This is the $50M version of the Islanders.
$23M of $50M is absolutely USELESS. Some of that is Milbury/Wang’s doing (DP, Yashin) but most of this are the “bad contracts” that we have all disilusioned ourselves into believing that Snow has avoided.
A $40M Islander roster would outplay the $50M version every day of the week… plus it would give them $10M more to spend on assets they really need. But they have to keep every one of these anchor’s around because they are ON A BUDGET as well.
Otherwise we’d have a team that consisted of Tomas Kaberle and most likely Brian McCabe. The true reason is that they are gun shy because they don’t want to be frugal NOW…
/closing barn door after horses are all out.
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You presume that a guy like Caber wants to come play here. We just dont know that.
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by TheMetalChick on Dec 15, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
His complaint was that he wanted a contract with the Islanders, not a Veteran Try-out. So I believe he would play here, he was just being a dick.
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Thats what I heard too.
We dont even know if thats true. Who knows if he would have said yes even if they did offer him a contract.
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by TheMetalChick on Dec 15, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
I really get the impression he wasn't interested in playing hockey anymore
At least not at the rate his services would command.
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by Dominik on Dec 15, 2011 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This isn't an entirely fair list, is it?
DiPietro got hurt. You can say it was a high risk that blew up on them, and I wouldn’t disagree… but if it was such a bad idea to begin with, why are so many other teams locking up their important stars for 7+ years? They laugh at the Isles behind one hand while signing these huge contracts with the other.
Rolston really only costs the Isles $1 million, because they sent the Hunter contract the other way. And Rolston’s deal is up this season so they have money to spend on guys they really want, either their own or (dare we dream) a big-ticket FA defenseman whose initials might be Ryan Suter.
Nino’s cap his is far in excess of his salary – ELC’s count all of their possible bonuses against the cap. Nino’s salary cannot be any greater than $925,000 per season, and the Isles only pay out that plus whatever bonuses he might hit. And also – again, he’s injured.
Pandolfo and Mottau I’ll give you. They’re substandard players right now. Reasoner, I’m on the fence. He’s had terrible luck thus far in terms of goalie sv% with him on the ice (similar to KO a couple of years ago, when Biron essentially became allergic to the puck whenever Kyle was around).
Eaton – again, hurt, dammit all.
Staios is overpaid, and is probably third pair at best, but is an asset if not overused.
Yashin and Witt are sunk cost. No sense anymore in regretting their buyout hit, especially these many years onward.
So – yeah, this money is going to under-productive players AT BEST and complete wastes at worst – but in a lot of these cases it’s a matter of injuries. Truthfully, if McCabe was on the team there would be plenty of people wailing about his cap hit vs. performance like they do now for Eaton, Staios, and Mottau.
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by mikb on Dec 15, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I think the upper hand that teams have in making fun of the DP issue is that it was 15 years
These other contracts are 7-10 maybe to 12-13, but DP was 15, the league is also starting to acknowledge that these are terrible things and even disallowing them (ala Kovie) so we are also seeing a lot less, which still gives opposing fans that upper hand
by BaltimoreIslander on Dec 15, 2011 1:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Kovie's wasn't disallowed solely on length
It was primarily because it was so ludicrously front-loaded while ending at league-minimum for so many years. That plus Kovi’s age at the end (43, IIRC) made it near-certain that he wouldn’t play out the contract, thus giving the Devils a very nice cap break. Rick’s contract expires when he’s 39, and pays him exactly the same amount every season.
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by mikb on Dec 15, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's the biggest thing
That people ignore, DP’s contract isn’t long to circumvent the Cap, he gets paid all the way through it.
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by Mark D on Dec 15, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Staios is overpaid
And so is Pandolfo and maybe Reasoner, but (to JP’s point) I wouldn’t call them bad contracts. We had to pay guys to get over the floor, but these are all one year deals made when we had run out of choices, so I think they are ok under the circumstances.
You could possibly fault Garth for not overpaying for better players earlier on in the free agency period, but we never know how that stuff plays out, and he did attempt something of an overpay for Ehrhoff.
Agreed
I don’t see those as “bad contracts” as they’re all below-average salaries (or in Staios’ case, salary plus bonus) for below-average players.
The killer deals are the long-term ones, and so far Snow’s been fairly careful with those. [insert DP caveat here. insert Wang’s deal caveat afterward.]
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by Dominik on Dec 15, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
What if Frans wasn't such a bargain...
… what if he got $2M for 5 years rather than $500K? The same thing goes for AMAC.
But the real problem is DP… it really all goes back to DP. He’s locked in because they need his cap hit, and when they are loaded 4 years down the road and need budget relief… look no further than the $4.5M they will be spending on a third goaltender they are paying to play in the AHL.
In that regard Smith was pretty smart for getting out from under the circus tent when he had the chance.
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The beauty of those is they're still low-risk
Frans and A-Mac were signed long-term at lower rates before they’d really proven themselves. So there was risk there, but it was lower risk than — well, hell, two of Snow’s riskier re-signings were Witt and Hunter, honestly, though I get where he was coming from with each.
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I'm pretty sure it was Snow's
Looks like 2008.
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You might be thinking of Bates
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by TheMetalChick on Dec 15, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty fair...
given that it is listed in respect to the here and now. Each one of them is now pretty much useless. Rolston, Mottau and Reasoner are playing, but they have contributed so little that their presence is negligable.
Rolston could easily be replaced by Wallace for a helluva lot less.
Mottau/deHaan… More cap hit/ just about the same budget hit.
Reasoner/Cizikas… biggest expense is Casey’s development. You could also have Haley play fourth line center, and Dibo play the wing on the fourth line.
They can’t exercise any of those options without injury because they can’t affort to dip under the cap floor. But the reason for this is because they spent so much on useless assets, and not even bad, but servicable ones. Kaberle would be a huge mistake… but having him just to get rid of Mottau and dipietro makes it a WIN!
The same goes for McCabe… but Bryan may just have been playing chicken with Snow.
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gun shy with trading for Kaberle
Remember, Carolina needed salary coming back just to keep up with their own floor issues. (Spacek, a defenseman making nearly $4 million, fit that bill and was a UFA to boot.)
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You wonder if they would have taken Rolston. Probably not, in which case it the only option is Streit, and that would be a net loss by a large margin.
Yeah, I assumed they wanted D for now
since Kaberle was such a big part of their plans. But to this point, Kaberle still makes me nervous, for three years…
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Yea
I’m personally glad they didn’t get him, but it would have required something like Rolston + an AHL dman (like Ness) and maybe a pick. Would have been a bad deal for us in the end.
Give them Eaton, Mottau
and McCabe’s email address.
You’re correct. I didn’t look at it that way.
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The Canes started shopping Kaberle
a month before his trade to Montréal. I think Comeau was still an Islander at that time.
He was and I was suprised that they waived him with intial reports that Carolina wanted offense.
It turns out they swapped for defense and an expiring contract instead, but I still don’t understand what was the logic and the rush to waive Comeau when they had no cap or roster issues at the time.
In retrospect the Canes didn’t want him since I think they were worse than Calgary in the standings at the time, but didn’t pick him up. I was thinking more in terms of keeping an asset that may be valuable in the future for a similar scenario.
My money is on this game being a hot mess
Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.
Re-Re-Build
Unfortunately because DP most likely will never reach the expected level, basically we are rebuilding all over again, I know it usually starts with the Goalie, which is where this situation is a little different, Poulin is the future Goaltender of this franchise (if all goes as planned) We seem to have a good offensive core going, with good prospects filtering in. We could defiantly use some work on the D, I think that should be the focus of draft/ free agent players. Just have to hope that by the time KP is ready to take the reigns, the rest of the team is still competing.
"Poulin is the future Goaltender of this franchise"
Why not Montoya?
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 15, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I love Toyota
But I’ve always seen KP as the future too. he impressed me greatly last year.
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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 15, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
No Hate on Montoya...
I think he is a great goalie, defiantly should be our starter right now, and deserves every minute he plays. I think going forward Montoya and Poulin are our guys, DP needs to go, that should be something they work on in the offseason, he is holding the franchise back.
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Why not Poulin?
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by TheMetalChick on Dec 15, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Injury worries, and to my eye last year he made a lot of plays because he has great athletic ability. But he seemed very raw, and the type of goalies who aren’t technically sound but have great athleticism seem to burn out quicker IMHO.
Now working with Sudsie might fix that, but I’d rather not see him rushed to the NHL level.
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Anyone wanna play Game?
What # will de Haan wear tonight?
He cannot wear any of the previous three #s he’s worn for Isles or BPT. (#12, #24 or #3)
I would love to see him wear a classic defensemen number like #7 but I think he’ll wear something else.
Any guessses?
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25 or 55
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 15, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, can't wear 25 my bad
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 15, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
44 According to Eric Hornick
by Nick (LetThereBeLighthouse) on Dec 15, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Cool...thanks for info...I havent checked in on Twitter today
Nice to hear from you on LHH Nick or…Im sorry @BUIslander.
I do not like #44. 55 would be better for me. #44 is a forward # NO?
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44: Pronger, Souray, Hamrlik...
I would actually bet it’s more often been used by D-men.
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Just feels that way I guess
I dont know.
I like those single digits for Defensemen.
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Me too
Maybe one day he’ll get one…
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Uni numbers
This is a fun tool at hockey-reference, if you’ve never tried it.
Heh, interesting: Mark Eaton wore 44 for the Flyers, McCabe wore 44 for the Hawks. It’s definitely a number that used to be for minor league callup forwards, but started to get sexy among D-men who were blocked form taking #4.
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I would have voted for #8
Prior notables: Howatt, Norton, Gervais.
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Strome?
Isn’t that reserved for next year’s Calder Candidate?
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by JPinVA on Dec 15, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
darn you're right
They could always make one of them #28, I suppose.
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I still think requests for 18 should go through Westfal.
by Hockey1919 on Dec 15, 2011 5:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
amen
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Give him 24
and give Staios a ticket to BP.
by afrosupreme on Dec 15, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
A little Pilon
I like 47, don’t see it on the active roster. Maybe it’s taken, and he’s not the Pilon type, but maybe the number makes the player, right, now I’ll have a beer.
by Katzenhammer on Dec 15, 2011 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Andrew MacDonanld
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OK, 47 Taken
37, 57…like 27, Tonelli! (taken)
by Katzenhammer on Dec 15, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Thirty-seven is good
Dennis Vaske! (Poor guy)
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I do not think so
But hey…didn’t think Hamonic would have been last year either.
I hope it works out.
Its just not how kids his age and at this stage in his development get properly developed.
Many of the stronger defensemen in the NHL were developed slow and steady. A full year in BPT would have been the right way IMO.
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Yeah, all depends
I mean it was a virtual certainty that he’d be up at some point this season, but his adaptation and the injury situation will probably determine how long it lasts.
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Bingo. He's probably not if they can help it. But good play will keep him up.
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I hope Kevin Poulin has a good game!
Im so happy they called him up. Its the right thing to do.
Well- the right thing would have been to give him the start in Montreal or at the VERY least have him there as backup, but… at least they are doing the right thing today.
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Agree, even though he got off to a slow start
he was coming off an injury. Also, often players who have had a cup of coffee in the big league, experience a let down when they are sent down. I hope we see the Poulin we saw last year.
by JoRiverside on Dec 15, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
kid's a gamer
i think he’ll be a beast
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If I remember correctly
He gave up a lot of early goals last year. I don’t think Poulin or the team can afford that
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by themass on Dec 15, 2011 1:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I dont think the Islanders have ever given up more early goals than they have THIS season- with all their goalies.
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by TheMetalChick on Dec 15, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
They all did, really
No Sleep 'til....Belmont?
CDH
Please play the point over Rolston
Constantly building for the future.
by pgat28 on Dec 15, 2011 12:20 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
CDH
for as long as he is in for Staios, it stands for Can Die Happy
here’s hoping he doesn’t take after SS and put us short a man in the first 5 minutes tonight!
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CDH possibly paired with Reese
according to Staple tweets
Peter interviews him.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nyislanders/6516333775/
locker between Hamonic and Mottau
So hes between the best and the worst defensemen on the team?
Interesting lol
And is it just me or does he look a little, idk, vampiric in this photo?
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How Dickensian
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by Chairman Meow on Dec 15, 2011 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
A Vampire?? That's a scurrilous lie
All we have to do is find a mirror there must be one in that locker room. I’ll take a closer look at the picture
by Isles2011 on Dec 15, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
No worries
Isles can use holy water in the Zamboni just to be safe.
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Nah
Doesn’t sparkle enough.
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by barry_hal_oliver_24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
interested to see CDH with Reese, an offensive upside pairing
On the other hand, Mottau & Jurcina as the 2nd pair is scary.
You wouldn't believe how good the Corsi is for my NHL 12 Be A Pro player.
My first thought when i saw Reese- Dehaan as the 3rd pairing
Was hallelluyah Mottaus gone! but then i realized hes on the second pairing
Depression sinking in…..
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....
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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 15, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
ROFL
Nice callback.
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Fios users
HD feed is up for those on LI, just checked today. 580 is the MSG+ HD channel. Finally…
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by ArsenalLI on Dec 15, 2011 1:12 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That might be the end of Optimum at Chateau Mikb
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Good...good...all is going according to plan
I also want to end my reliance on Craptimum but Fios isn’t in my area yet. But one more check box has been ticked!
by GreekIsles83 on Dec 15, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
my family made the switch as soon as Fios was in our area and have never looked back
Even when I’m over my friends houses now I notice the service difference. Fios is much quicker with the guide/changing channels, on top of not having to deal with the aggravation of being a Cablevision costumer.
The only downside really is no News 12 (Fios 1 doesn’t measure up.)
You wouldn't believe how good the Corsi is for my NHL 12 Be A Pro player.
Agreed in every way
Fios 1 is not winning an Edward R. Murrow award anytime soon
Nothing beats NY1 on Time Warner in NYC
One of the things I miss most about my misspent NYC youth
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by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 15, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
I'll take
Cablevision over Time Warner or Comcast any day.
Time Warner especially blows. My dad lives outside Saratoga and always say the game is on in the info but then it’s always soccer or something else. I’ve complained numerous times…absolutely awful service.
Dear God! How will I ever know when Glen Cove is rededicating its town square gazebo?!
I know everyone has different tastes/priorities but I outwardly chortle at those Cablevision commercials with the sad neighbors who switch providers and don’t have News 12 anymore. What a huge loss. I’ll take the faster TV and internet that doesn’t slow down during peak times :)
by GreekIsles83 on Dec 15, 2011 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
I never watched News 12 either. Don't miss it at all. In fact, I wouldn't even have known it existed if people weren't always talking about it.
Just saw the News 12 film “crew” at Phils pizza in Syosset actually.
We went to FIOS as soon as we could and I have zero regrets. I did like Time Warner when I lived in Queens, mostly because of the NYC channel that had a great music show (NY Noise, I believe). Cablevision has always been an inferior service. I think I may even prefer those Dish services.
NY Noise
it was on Fios channel 25.
the show went off the air in 2009 (its site)
wiki has list of its shows from 2003-2009
the good ones always seem to go before their time
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Seconded (as long as they can come close on price)
I got some aggressive pricing from the Optimum salesman – could be hard for Fios to match, based on the deals I see advertised.
Though I must say I liked Fios’ old channel guide interface better. Whatever re-design they did hurts my eyes.
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by IslesFanInNJ on Dec 15, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you thank you thank you!
Thank you!
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by CharlieIsles on Dec 15, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
Hollelujah!!!!
I have been waiting for this for years now.
Thank god.
by The Danish Backhand of Judgement on Dec 15, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
what are the chances of Bobby Nystrom going to the game tonight
i mean even after all these years, it must still be amazing to see his son play in the NHL
islanders hockey, making a sane person go insane during finals week
He's usually there when his son plays
I prefer it when his son is wearing #23, but ah well.
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Yeah, last year they asked Bobby
“If Eric ends up playing for the Islanders, would you let him wear your number?”
Bobby: “No, that’s my number.”
Hahahahahaha.
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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 15, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Haha
I missed that one. Classic.
I’d have given him 46. Twice the number, half the player, but still welcome nonetheless.
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It was between periods of the game during the Wild last year.
"We owe him a lot more than he owes us at this point. He's been stellar all year. He still gave us a chance to win this one, and we've got to find a way."
—C Josh Bailey, on G Al Montoya after a 5-3 loss Tuesday in Montreal.
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 15, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
He was there when they played the Wild last year
You’re welcome
Bobby Ny is at every home game usually
At least, I feel like I’ve seen him there a million times.
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I feel like I have heard that from basically everyone who was an Islander fan during the 1980’s :P
by GreekIsles83 on Dec 15, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully...
Everyone doesn’t read too much into de Haan’s game tonight, good or bad. He’s a little raw, and not quite ready for primetime. Hope he gets a cup o’ joe, and heads back to the port until ready. Though obviously I’m hoping he plays well tonight…
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good point
but from what I’ve seen he will be an improvement over Mottau AND Staios. I hate to say it, but the things that have held him back from making the team in October are not going to change this year, next year or 2015… He has no size or strength to impact NHL players.
I hope he proves me wrong, but I just don’t see it. His passing with space and time will be SWEET… but the first time he gets challenged by a Clutterbuck or Lucic…CAREER OVER.
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Yeah it's hard for D men to step in
I’m not sure if he had time with Reese in BPT but if they had little or none there could be some bad chemistry.
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No
Like David Ullstrom, he is the savior
I will only accept a +6 with 5 points
by BaltimoreIslander on Dec 15, 2011 5:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm off to the NVMC!!
Haven’t been there in a few years as is quite a trek out there from the middle of Jersey. Let’s go boys!! Especially YOU Josh…….gotta keep my FIG streak alive!!
LET’S GO ISLANDERS!!!!
by barry_hal_oliver_24 on Dec 15, 2011 2:25 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
enjoy the game!
May your FIG, SIG, TIG, FOIG, FIIG, SIXG, SEVG, and EIG picks all come true.
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Usually teams have someone ring the bell the next meeting between teams if someone illegally concusses their player.
Would be nice to have Gillies for 1gm here to make fistric pay the price. Same weight class.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Oh, look who wants Gillies, now.. ^^^^^^^
;-)
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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 15, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Fistric paid already...
Plus Martin confronted him right then on the spot. No need to take a 2-5-10 and give the league reason to rethink something they have VASTLY IMPROVED because fans want cowboy justice.
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Speaking of
Do you view the Hunter-Mottau (Frans) and Martin-Fistric (Nino) reactions differently?
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(Or for that matter, the incidents causing the reactions?)
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I thought the incidents were different..
because of context. Fistric was an incident that was more like what Nino did to Gerbe, without the same results. They were bad execution of something that I don’t think was all that bad. Guys need to get their legs into hits (I complained that Hunter never did that). But not to the extent that they launch themselves. It’s just a matter of uncoiling potential energy too much.
The Mottau incident happened after the Weight on Sutter hit. My tin foil hat thought process has Sutter getting that team all riled up to pull something stupid… and Mottau is stupid enough to do it to Nielsen. Just a coincidence… maybe. But then Sutter had the goon squad out for the third period just daring Gordon to send out Fritz… and Gordon did NOTHING!
Hunter going after Mottau was like the stay-puff marshmallow man attacking the Bob from Bob’s recliners. I think Martin went after Fistric half heartedly because he is getting tired of being the only responder… and for hits that he would probably lay on somebody if he played a system where he could stand guys up on the blue line.
It was the same reaction that he had towards Kassian when Nino fought off the angry dwarf.
to sum that up… after Mottau was suspended… DONE. Except for my reaction to Gordon leaving fritz on the bench… and I really NEVER wanted Mottau on the team. He was probably a wonderfully shitty defenseman under Lou-cipher… but I didn’t want him in the locker room with Frans. It’s a slap in the face to our best two-way forward.
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I’m with you on the difference in the incidents (Mottau’s being much worse than Fistric’s, although Mottau is clumsy enough that he could probably accidentally murder someone), but of course not on the tinfoil and Sutter-related side of things.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
by Dominik on Dec 15, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fistric is a scratch, btw
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
by Dominik on Dec 15, 2011 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
scratch
Fistric is a healthy scratch tonight.
by Katzenhammer on Dec 15, 2011 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Hell yeah! DeHaan finally, and let's see if Poulin's still got it.
Throwing Nabokov into the backup spot the other night was obviously the wrong decision. Montoya shouldn’t have even been starting that game. We rode him harder then most teams ride their starter over the past few weeks.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Fistric should be back tonight
Should be interesting to see if he’s forced to fight. No heavyweights up but Wallace can drop.
No Sleep 'til....Belmont?
Ahhh missed the scratch
Oh well.
No Sleep 'til....Belmont?
Looking forward to a Richard Bachman sighting
Always loved his work.
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
Bachman has been shining in his few games
Let’s see if he can carrie the Stars.
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by PGI on Dec 15, 2011 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Hopefully not
I want the Isles to make a stand and play with some desperation. I want JT to go all gunslinger on these guys. With our blueline getting thinner every week, I want de Haan to make us forget that bag of bones Staios in one game. And if it gets to shootout, I want Bachman beaten like Bates beat CuJo. I’m tired of the insomnia and misery and rage this team is causing me! Not to mention the long walk through the NVMC parking lot for all of the fans at the game.
I Prefer...
BTO, but some of you might be a little youn for that.
by Katzenhammer on Dec 15, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Let's be "Takin Care of Business"
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Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I expect an early Matt Martin fight and that's it for festivities tonight
in terms of non-hockey stuff.
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Blood boils...
I live in Winnipeg. Caps in town tonight.
Walking along a walkway I see someone coming towards me and they look familiar….
As he gets beside me I realize, it’s Dale Fuckin Goon Hunter.
I should have waited about 7 seconds and then blindsided him yelling “This one’s for Turgeon you bastard!”
Unfortunately he is built like a brick shit house compared to my measly frame and I probably wouldn’t have gotten to far with it.
by isles79-83 on Dec 15, 2011 6:17 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Ha
It’s funny I took my kids to Caps practice for the first time since he’s taken over last weekend, and I was a little surprised (though I shouldn’t have been) by how disgusted I was when I saw him. It was one of those things where things were hectic, kid was crying, etc and I forgot he was going to be there until I saw him, and then I wanted to yell a string of profanities at him.
Two other notes from the practice-was the first time I ever saw OV at a practice the day after a game and they seemed to be having a lot more fun as a team than any of the times I’ve been in the past year.
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Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Did you at least yell “TURGEON” when you were far enough away that he wouldnt have any idea that it was you who did it?
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Dec 16, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
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