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Post-Game +/-: Canadiens 5 (EN), Islanders 3

Later, Petteri would score with the puck, too.

The New York Islanders were probably lucky to be tied 3-3 with the Montreal Canadiens with eight minutes left, having combined a mixture of missed passes, soft goals conceded and odd-man rushes allowed through two periods before mounting an inspired two-goal comeback in the third.

That respite was brief, however, as Frans Nielsen was caught on a second consecutive long shift and allowed countryman Lars Eller too much space to set up an ex-Islander for the game winner. The right team won on this night.

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This is our instant-reaction post-game plus/minus thread. Such as:

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+ After a drab first 41 minutes down 3-1, Josh Bailey and John Tavares each scored to tie it.
- That lasted all of two minutes, as ex-Isle Petteri Nokelainen took the lead back with a bullet
- Al Montoya: Looking tired and giving up some weaker goals lately. More on this in the recap later.

And so on.

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We Need AMac Back

We need Defensemen and Goaltending. We are not a team that can afford any bad nights by a Goalie and although Montoya has been the best option so far….the last 3-4 games he has been far more average.
Also…Can Marty Reasoner score a goal before the season is over or what?

On a somewhat related note (but not really): I know he’s probably gonna start on Thursday but I Just Don’t Like Evkeni Nabakov. I hate that look that he always seems to have on his face. He doesn’t want to be here at all. I wish they would just trade him.

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by FB4Real on Dec 13, 2011 10:27 PM EST reply actions  

i agree

people that don’t want to be here, just shouldn’t be here flat out.

by capz1990 on Dec 13, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm still having trouble....

getting over that game against PIttsburgh where he asks out if the game in the Shootout. He acts like he just doesn’t care about anyone else on the team and he’s all about himself.

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by FB4Real on Dec 13, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Well he was hurt in that game

I know he missed a few games after that with a groin injury i think

"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992

by Zhora on Dec 14, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

He had the sense to take himself out when he wasnt feeling right.

I cannot figure out why anyone would hold that against any player.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 14, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

getting amac

back would help some but he wasnt exactly playing too good either before he got hurt

by ripcurl2121 on Dec 13, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont think he has been 100% 'not hurt' at any point this season

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 14, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree: not a Nabakov fan but.........

He need to show he is a #1 goalie in order to increase his own trade value.

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Dec 13, 2011 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

gotta disagree with dom

Al didnt look tired, just not very good. Last 2 games he looks like, well, a career minor leaguer. After 2nd goal he should have been pulled. Cant win when you let in 2 bad ones. Very bad loss tonight. Imagine the hate if dp lost the same way. Hope nabby is ready to make a run, since its back to 4 under nhl .500.

by randyboyd on Dec 13, 2011 10:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Not sure if Al is either tired, or just not used to the workload that Cap is giving him right now. I think he needs to get some time off and not play so much, even if it means a Dipi/Nab/Poulin start once every three games or so.

by Furkmyster on Dec 13, 2011 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t say “tired” as in looking sluggish, but rather possibly not mentally sharp or physically as fundamentally sound as in games earlier this season. (I got into my thoughts more in the full recap here.)

He still made some very good saves well after you would have pulled him, but even some of those struck me as made from a body position that’s not ideal.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 14, 2011 2:42 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Next man up!!

Love youy Al, but you appear to be a step behind right now, take a 5 game seat.

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Dec 13, 2011 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

And who is going to start these 5 games?

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 13, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

The Russian Retard

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Dec 13, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

so then he will be worn out

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 13, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

If he wear out in fives games? Good question!

The answer: there are no other options right now Nabby starts the next 3-5 games, Al sits and regenerates. If Nabby burns out after the 3rd game Al comes back in net, still Al gets his rest. Clearly he was a step slow tonight.

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Dec 14, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

The other option that I do not want to contemplate...............R

No I will not contemplate it.

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Dec 14, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

What do you think Nabby will do when these guys

Let a team run him all night? It will no different.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 13, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's smart, 5 game seat.

How about giving him 2 and then see if it recharges him instead of sitting him for 2 weeks. Something in the middle would be better. He’s played very average the past 3 games.

by NewIsles on Dec 14, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

What if Nabby lights it up?

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Dec 14, 2011 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

NHL Network (a few days ago)

Since Hitchcock took over STL Blues they have gone 11-2-3! I like Cappy but I would have prefered Hitchcock.

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Dec 13, 2011 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

You and most, I imagine

Really doubt he would have come. (And the Blues were playing pretty well even before the change. They had a mix of bad luck, tough road schedule, and a GM who had possibly one last chance to hire his old buddy and go for broke before new ownership comes in and … I don’t know, hires Barry Melrose or something).

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Dec 14, 2011 2:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Does anyone read lips?

I would have given $100 toi be able to hear what Cappy said after the shot from the point beat Montoya. If I am not mistaken he used the “F” word.

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Dec 13, 2011 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

I saw

“The fuck was that?” I rewound it. I wanted to make a gif out of it…and in the future, I will be giffing any potential cappy foul language for games such as these.

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 13, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

What would you say he used "The fuck was that?" for?

Maybe he thought the shot was unstoppable?
Maybe he thought Al should have had that one?
Maybe he thought Streit did not hustle?
Or any other ones?

I’m going with the second one.

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Dec 13, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Staios screened Montoya too it looked like.

Can’t link it on my iTouch, but YouTube “Nokelainen Goal” and the first video has a behind-the-net replay of the goal. Ugly all-around.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 14, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Could've been anything

there was a lot of “the fuck?” on that play.

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by Keith Quinn on Dec 14, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

This team is wimpy

That is all.

Softest Isles team that I’ve ever seen.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Dec 13, 2011 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

Gotta love those butterfly goalies?

Everyone that has heard my rants already knows what I’m about to say/rant again.
GOD I hate butterfly goalies. YES I know it’s the IN thing and it’s been the IN thing for the past 15-20 years, but it does not mean I have like them.
For God’s sake not every shot, from any point on the ice REQUIRES a goalie to go down on his knees.
A goalie should NOT be on his knees when facing a shot from the point!!!!!!!!
I know, what you will all say, "the goalie is playing the percentages, he is covering the low ice." I am not buying it from a shot from the point. A goalies stays on his skates, comes out, takes as much net away by cutting the angle and takes the shot in the arm, chest.

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Dec 13, 2011 11:45 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Like I stated its the way it is now.

I just don’t think its the best way to goaltend.

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Dec 14, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh

- Big Al
-Rolston on the PP, this has shown me nothing, plus I think it makes the Isle fwds even more tentative knowing the old man is back there waiting to get burned one on one.
+ showing some grit on the comeback
- face offs, seemed like we lost a lot of key ones
+Bailey

by 7:11_OT on Dec 14, 2011 10:25 AM EST reply actions  

Also, PK fwds are collapsed too much, not looking for them to go nuts with aggressiveness, but come on

by 7:11_OT on Dec 14, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Al has been playing way deep inside his net a lot of the time lately, and the rebounds are my biggest concern. He is still making some good saves (thankfully) but he needs to work on that stuff. Rebounds are IMO his biggest problem.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Dec 14, 2011 10:28 AM EST reply actions  

Running Totals and defensemen grades

Kyle 4, Post 2

Streit: B-. Decent.
2.906 (28 games played)

Staios: D. Largely responsible for two goals (screened Montoya on last goal)
2.193 (28)

Hamonic: B-. Better as game went on.
3.117 (28)

Reese: C+. Pretty solid.
2.167 (6)

Jurcina: C. Blah.
2.110 (19)

Mottau: B-. Good enough defensively and helped to create some chances. Missed net from slot though, golden opportunity.
1.927 (21)

Not in action:

Eaton:
2.131 (16)

AMac: B.
2.694 (22)

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Dec 22, 2011 1:18 PM EST reply actions  


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