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Islanders 2, Sabres 1: Al Montoya Shines, Preserves Rolston Winner

The New York Islanders enjoyed a 1-0 lead for most of two periods thanks to an early powerplay (!) goal, but the Sabres equalized what was an entertaining game despite its lack of goals up to that point. Very even game overall with several chances traded each way, but the Islanders actually pushed play with the lead, outshooting the Sabres 12-8 in the scoreless second period.

It was one where a bounce in either direction could have made it 2-0 or 1-1, but the Sabres got the next bounce to tie the game and make it interesting 1:54 into the third. Eight minutes later, another good shift by Brian Rolston, Josh Bailey, and David Ullstrom created the game winner, finished by Rolston just a faceoff after he couldn't quite get his stick on a puck that lay in the crease behind Jhonas Enroth, who was quite good with 28 saves.

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But even better, and the big star of the game: Al Montoya and his 30 saves. He stood on his head, and saved the game when the Sabres received a 1:34 long and quite dubious 5-on-3 with under 10 minutes left in the game.

Star-divide

Game Highlights

Game Notes

No separate plus/minus thread tonight. Put your plus/minuses here, or return to the game thread for the usual tomfoolery. This one was an earned win, a solid effort for most of 60 minutes where the bounces finally didn't go against them -- not even on that 5-on-3, which was a really, really cruel kneeing call on Josh Bailey for throwing a check on the half boards.

Not to pick on Nino Niederreiter, who had a pretty nice game all told, but him losing Jochen Hecht on the Sabres goal that tied it at 1-1 is one of those things you look for when monitoring whether he's ready for NHL hockey. Looked like Andrew MacDonald pointed for Hecht to be covered but Nino followed the expected path of the puck instead of the man.

Niederreiter sure was engaged though, with five hits and a couple of shot attempts. You can tell he likes to throw firm hits when the opportunity presents. Of course, throwing one against the smallest player on the other team, before he's gotten to the puck, leading to an interference call, is not quite that opportunity. That not only put the Islanders down a man, it also got Matt Martin drawn into a fight with Zack Kassian.

Other notes, after what really, finally, felt like a four-line effort -- and suddenly a second road win in a row:

  • Kyle Okposo has re-familiarized himself with the post, I see. (3rd period chance from distance.)
  • John Tavares, too. The rebound was there for Matt Moulson, but Tomas Vanek sacrificed life, limb and Enroth to prevent Moulson from getting a clean whack.
  • Good play by Brian Rolston on his go-ahead goal, slipping it backhand past Enroth -- which was good karma, considering what that line had done to nearly score just before that...
  • ...but it was an equally good play by Josh Bailey and David Ullstrom to feed him, with body play and a pass out front. That prompted Butch Goring to cite Jack Capuano saying the reason Ullstrom stayed on the wing after being moved there in Bridgeport was because his physical game picked up.
  • With Mark Streit in the box for hooking, Josh Bailey received an absolutely awful tripping call. As a bonus, Travis Hamonic was dinged by a two consecutive point blasts from Christian Ehrhoff on the resulting 5-on-3. Went to the locker room briefly, came right back. Magic soccer spray.
  • Montoya on that 5-on-3: Insane. He made back-to-back backdoor glove saves on Derek Roy that simply should not be possible: After the first, surely his groin lay in shreds but he got the glove back up for round two anyway.
  • Your nightly Michael Grabner breakaway: Insane steal at center ice, through two guys ... then shooting just wide of Enroth's glove.
  • PAP brainfart: P.A. Parenteau backed his way offsides with John Tavares carrying the puck and an empty net, with just under 15 seconds left. Tavares hit the side of the net anyway, but that could've been costly. After the ensuing faceoff, MacDonald ended up making a painful shot block to seal the game.

Finally, Patrick Flatley between the benches on the MSG broadcasts, next to Rob Ray (who does the Sabres from there). Thoughts?

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Yay winning

Yay winning streak!

Maybe they’ll be on a roll by the time I see them in Dallas on Saturday…

by Dr. Copp on Nov 29, 2011 9:49 PM EST reply actions  

Flatley would earn the dump of the game every night

He sure did dump the puck every time he had the chance…

by KO21 on Nov 29, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

At least he just seems normal and not too bad a homer and not dissing the team either.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 29, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I enjoyed listening to him tonight.

But then again, I was feeling really optimistic about this game all day so that probably helped :)

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

You said it, KO.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Love your optimistic attitude on most things Isles.

I think we match up better with Sabres than manyt teams.

by NewIsles on Nov 29, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t we beat them with every goalie last year? DP, Rollie, Mikko, Poulin and Montoya?

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by Mark D on Nov 29, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think with all of them

they were saying we took 6 of 8 points…but I feel like one of them was the one Mikko started and Monty finished. (Grabs hat trick right?)

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 29, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe you are right.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Havent felt very optimistic lately believe me lol.

This was the first time I was thinking during the day that we would win that night in a long time.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I though the addition of Falteley to the Broadcast was very cool

I would love the hear more from him while the game is going on.

His back and forth with Peter R. during the intermissions was very good as well.
I get the feeling that Flats lieks the Isles rebuild.

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by FB4Real on Nov 29, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe having an honor night coming up warmed him up? :)

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the analyst between the boards thing....

he really gets and up close viewpoint and can read player biody language and get a feel for how and who is talking out there on the ice.

Its a great way to get another viewpoint.

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by FB4Real on Nov 29, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too-

-when its the right analyst and not some ignorant dope making inane comments.
Tonight went well.
Cant do it at NVMC though (obviously) which is a bummer.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Me three!

But you’re right…It would have to be an analyst that actually cares like Flats…

by KO21 on Nov 30, 2011 8:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Awww...

back before Sheen was 110% batshit crazy.

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by Dominik on Nov 30, 2011 3:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Wonder what their record would be had he played every game. Probably still towards the bottom, but he may have stolen a game or two or three along the way. If either DP or Nabby was in there tonight, I’m 98.2% sure they lose.

by Les Beaver on Nov 29, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Youre shortchanging Nabokov IMO

He has played better than people remember.
Just because the team was horrifyingly bad in front of him doesnt mean he didnt play well.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I don't think any of them have been "bad" per se.

But I don’t think either Nabby or DP make some of those saves Montoya made tonight. I really have no problem with any of the three, but all in all, Montoya has been the best and most consistant.

They’re still not scoring many goals, so one extra goal allowed will ruin a game like tonight.

by Les Beaver on Nov 29, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm not a goaltending expert, but...

…Montoya looks like he’s as good as anyone going side-to-side.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 29, 2011 11:18 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Yup, his movement looks good.

But he needs to work on rebounds- he directs them right back into business too often for my liking.
Fortunately, he has been quick stopping the 2nd & 3rd shots off those rebounds.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2011 11:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

True

Two of his rebounds should have resulted in goals. One the player missed, one the player passed beneath his pads and the other player missed an open net. At least one of these rebounds was preventable, it seems.

But hey, Isles had 4 near-goals in the 3rd (two posts, one goal line, and a Grabner breakaway, oh and Tavares open net at the end), so luck seemed to even out.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 30, 2011 12:04 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i didn't think that was a shot

Looked like trying to feed Moulson after he got out of the zone; Matt had more space to try for the net.

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by mikb on Nov 30, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Isles had their own share of rebound chances too

Vanek did to Moulson what I hope Nino will one day do.

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by Dominik on Nov 30, 2011 3:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Nabokov was good.

No doubt about that, but he was still not as good as Montoya has been
since last season. Nabokov is somewhere around average, Montoya is above average.

by The Danish Backhand of Judgement on Nov 29, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

BIG PLUS FOR THE HAMMER!

+ JT was the best forward on the ice
- He didnt score a point
+ MONTY, nuff said

by KO21 on Nov 29, 2011 9:57 PM EST reply actions  

++++ everybody

Best effort, most complete game, and most fun game to watch that I wasn’t at.

Tonight was a joy.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 29, 2011 10:01 PM EST reply actions  

+/-

+Bailey throwing his body around on the fore check. I thought he continued his strong play tonight.
+Tavares just running things on the ice, his luck was particularly awful tonight.
+Providing the necessary karma for the Rolston goal by saying he score despite me saying how terrible he was.
+El Toyota was amazing tonight. I can’t think of a bad game he’s had this year.
-El Nino, that was a terrible penalty to take along the boards. Not the way to come back into the lineup.
-Mottau, I don’t even need to explain this
-Rolston, despite the goal he wasn’t very good tonight. He was abysmal on the power play and should’ve scored the play before he got the goal. He was more lucky than good tonight.

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by ArsenalLI on Nov 29, 2011 10:01 PM EST reply actions  

Nino had a pretty good/decent game overall though.... and I don't mind an occasional stupid physical penalty.

we needs some physicality!! He said the coaches told him he needed to through his body around more…he needs to learn, but i’ll take it.

by NewIsles on Nov 29, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry don't agree

Maybe it’s just his enthusiasm but he looks like a little kid that just got into a league where they allow hitting… The penalty aside, he’s not making smart hits at all, just going after the guy so he can go back to the bench and say “hey coach, did you see me?! I checked someone!”

That’s nice and all but that doesn’t add much. He lost the puck and had difficulty controlling passes all night. That lackluster effort probably caused the goal.

He’s young and he’s learning so I’m not Mottau-ing him because of it, but he needs to be better, and his issues (besides his awful backcheck didn’t hurt us) so he can work on these things here in the NHL with similar minutes as tonight to start out.

Being overly critical probably but I’m not used to being happy after an islander game so I nitpick

by BaltimoreIslander on Nov 30, 2011 12:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, I thought Nino was subpar, and with limited ice time.

Don’t think he played much in the 3rd. They seemed to roll the other 3 lines more.

If Nino is this raw and is going to make more than his share of mistakes, perhaps Juniors is the best option this season. (I know, my evaluation is only from a couple games.) I really like the Isles being able to roll 4 lines…. Perhaps Nino can learn as he plays and his mistakes will be less. And they don’t have to play him much in the 3rd, I suppose, in a close game.

Perhaps Isles are scratching him some games because if they can bounce back into the playoff hunt, then perhaps Isles do send Nino back to Juniors.

They are going to have to roll 4 Friday and Saturday in the back-to-back away games. It will be interesting to see if Nino suits up Friday. (Not trying to overblow the situation.)

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 30, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Captain one day

I’ve been saying that since last year. I love how he won’t let anybody mess with A-Mac.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 29, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey now!!!

Its feeling better in Isles country…

by KO21 on Nov 29, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I LOVE Hamonic!

But as far as the letter talk goes, it matters so little… guys dont need letters to be leaders. :)

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I absolutely agree on the "A."

He’s vocal, he’s scrappy, he defends his teammates, and he plays for the team, giving himself up for hard shots and playing fantastic defense. He leads by example and leads by motivation.

Strip it off Rolston’s and Staios’s jerseys, give one to Hamonic and one to Parenteau. They earned them and deserve them.

by sayvillelax94 on Nov 30, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

To quote a very bad movie

“You guys won today. You guys won yesterday, so that’s two in a row. If you win again tomorrow, that’s called a winning streak. It has happened before”

Loved the effort. Thats three games in a row the team has come out to play. That 5 on 3 kill was huge and the effort by the 3rd line on Rolston’s goal was great. All three got down and dirty to get the winning goal. Al Montoya is a machine, and he seems to be getting chippier and chippier with every game played. Hopefully this team has turned the corner.

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by Chris McNally on Nov 29, 2011 10:05 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

haha

That’s the Video I posted to further up.

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by Mark D on Nov 29, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh dammit

Sorry, Im stealing your material now. I thought that was an actual Cappy speech haha

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by Chris McNally on Nov 29, 2011 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

If it makes you feel better

I beat everyone to that punch with a fanshot last season :P

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Nov 30, 2011 6:47 AM EST up reply actions  

pfft cmon

that wasn’t so bad of a movie.

Did he say free and queer?

What the fish, stick?

by Homey Chives on Nov 29, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

haha I think what ruined it

Was Omar Epps instead of Wesley Snipes. Apparently when you bulk up in the offseason it changes your facial featuers as well

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by Chris McNally on Nov 29, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

good times

with 11 losses, we only have 1 more loss than Washington or Tampa Bay

the 7th & 8th place teams are Buffalo & the Devils, who we compete with

things are starting to emerge that we can build on

can we please have a 7th D man – PLEASE?

and add Dibenedetto, subtract Reasoner

by Cary K on Nov 29, 2011 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

I like Reasoner better than Pandolfo or Rolston

Can we PLEASE take Rolston off the PP? Perhaps at one time in his career he scored PP goals with his exceptional shot, but the lane isn’t open for him in today’s NHL. And when he can’t shoot, he is useless on the PP because his decision making is subpar.

There, I feel better.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 29, 2011 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Montoya was just great

This game had all the makings of a typical Isle frustration…play well enough to win, but something bad happens, like a 5 on 3 in the third. I was expecting the worst.
But Montoya did just what he was supposed to do, get the win.
He needs to keep playing until he is exhausted.

by JackandAce on Nov 29, 2011 10:06 PM EST reply actions  

Isles are not stuck...

They brought up a BPT kid before and, if need be, they will bring one up again.
They have already shown that.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

They aren't?

what would they do with DP then?

by KO21 on Nov 29, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

What they have been doing?

Sitting him and occasionally playing him. Even when Montoya and Nabokov were both out, Rick still got only one start.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't see him playing both games this weekend

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 29, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

This is what teams that want to win will do...Ride their best guys...
Montoya did just what he was supposed to do, get the win.
He needs to keep playing until he is exhausted.

by KO21 on Nov 29, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I think if Capuano wants to turn this season around

and squash any talk of him getting fired, youre spot on. He needs to ride Montoya as long as he can. It’s ok if Ricky gets rusty, bc lets face it, he always looks rusty. Jack played Montoya back to back this weekend, so it’s possible he may do it again

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by Chris McNally on Nov 29, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yes

Lets face it, our dream this year was to make the playoffs, and we need to put on the ice the best team that gives us that chance…every game. There are no more points to give away…none. I don’t care what the name is on the back of the goalie’s jersey, I just want the guy who gives us the best chance. That, at least right now, is Montoya.

by JackandAce on Nov 29, 2011 10:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Getting eerie flashbacks to Gordon riding Roloson

I remember when Gordon was desperate during the streak and just rode Roloson every game. I hope Capuano doesn’t get to that situation (but I wouldn’t mind Montoya doing one more back-to-back).

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by Dominik on Nov 30, 2011 3:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Guessing they play Montoya Friday at Chicago.

Unless he has an easy night (which is highly unlikely), I think Isles go with Rick Saturday in Dallas.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 29, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

He's from Illinois

Would be nice to get him a start there.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 29, 2011 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he could get both starts, personally.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Seeing them kill that 5 on 3 was SO FANTASTIC!

Best part of the game, no question! Excellent teamwork. :)

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2011 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

The best part is that it was all of them!

Hamonic and Montoya setting the mood on that kill, it was so frickin great to watch.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes it was

I actually recall Motteau making a good play

by JackandAce on Nov 29, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

He did, he really did.

Im glad there were other witnesses so I know I was not hallucinating!

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2011 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

you may still be hallucinating anyway

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by Chris McNally on Nov 29, 2011 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I smell a roll for the Islander?

and I’m not talking Cinnamon, Parkerhouse or Jelly

by Madchef on Nov 29, 2011 10:09 PM EST reply actions  

Rolston

Great goal…he catches a lot of grief here, but his presence of mind on that play was wonderful. Kudos.

by JackandAce on Nov 29, 2011 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

This was Rolstons best game in an Isles jersey.

Breaking up plays, good passes, he looked good all night. Crazy, but true!

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree...He did have 1 bad fling of the puck around the boards on the PP that was essentially a Buffalo clear...

I was line, WTF was that???But he was good….hes been better lately… Everyone’s been better lately..

by KO21 on Nov 29, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

He still needs to be off the PP though

he needs so much time and space to get that shot off that he never gets it off. That one PP tonight was atrocious where him and Streit just passed it back and forth for eternity.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 29, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to wonder now

As an aging sniper type, what Bailey would look like with a young sniper type. They have points in back to back games, and Bailey has been so much better since he was separated from Comeau.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 29, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Bailey

might eventually work well with Nino. We’ll see. I remember that interview with Green said that Nino thrives with a center who can draw players and make passes. That actually seems to be one thing Bailey has done pretty well-he just usually doesn’t have anyone worth passing to…

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by afrosupreme on Nov 30, 2011 6:15 AM EST up reply actions  

He looked bad on the PP

Pretty good at even strength, though.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 29, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Starting to like this Ullstrom-Bailey-Rolston line

I was hoping that a physical, aggressive winger would help Bailey’s play and I think it has done the trick.

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by Anarcurt on Nov 29, 2011 10:14 PM EST reply actions  

I think it's because Comeau no longer makes Bailey dizzy

All kidding aside, Bailey has looked far better of late, especially since Comeau left. He just seems so much more confident, anyone else notice that?

by sayvillelax94 on Nov 30, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Rolston is that sort of crafty veteran that knows how to score a big goal taking advantage of an opportunity, but for most

the game sucks. He’s a catch 22. I can’t remember who that called him out for sucking, but then would be proven wrong by scoring next goal.

by NewIsles on Nov 29, 2011 10:16 PM EST reply actions  

But in this particular game, he genuinely looked good.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I honestly don't think he sucks. I think he's just slow. That's the most frustrating thing about him. I think his hands are still

excellent, his hockey sense is excellent, he is patient with the puck but he is just so SLOW. SLOW SLOW SLOW. It really costs the teams sometimes. Other times not.

by TMS on Dec 1, 2011 2:21 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That line is flying again

When KO came back from his press box banishment he looked bad and I thought he hadn;t gotten the message. But ever since he’s been back in beast mode. It’s really nice to see him back.

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by Chris McNally on Nov 29, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen!

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 29, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry

Just Saw NDRE posted it later in the thread.

by DavidSweden on Nov 30, 2011 5:08 AM EST up reply actions  

What's sad is

When he hit the post the first thing I thought of was NDRE’s running tally.

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by Dominik on Nov 30, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Awesome. Thats 2 in a row. A well deserved hard working win. Let the Cuban play!!!!

by Icefan71 on Nov 29, 2011 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

That one save...

where it was deflected a couple of time in front of him and he still made the save was wonderful

by JackandAce on Nov 29, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Tracking Montoya's

Even Strength Save % with regards to this.

After tonight:

And for such a great game tonight:

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Nov 29, 2011 10:34 PM EST reply actions  

So only 3200 more shots to go? The Isles would allow that in the next month alone.

=d

by AP77 on Nov 29, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ha!

If he gets 30 starts that should basically doubly where he is now and get him to about 1600. If he maintains the .930% that puts him at roughly a 5% chance of regressing severely.

Of course just a handful of awful games could still swing him pretty hard in the other direction.

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by afrosupreme on Nov 30, 2011 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

It's almost as if these metrics only tell a small part of the story.

And not necessarily an intuitive part. It happens.

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by Turgeon1992 on Nov 29, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

For the record, it's not meaningless. You're just missing context

I’d bet good money that those players were playing by far the toughest minutes. So of course their corsi was low.

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by garik16 on Nov 30, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Context is key

Just like with empty net goals and one-night stands.

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by Dominik on Nov 30, 2011 3:21 AM EST up reply actions  

One for Al Toyota

Man he played well, and in front of him was a real solid effort that could have blown up with a few different bounces. Everybody had a real good game. Standouts being Hamonic on defense. He was in everyones face, attacking the blueline, and blocking the puck. Keep it up.

Continue with this effort and as a team we can win. Tavares, Grabner, Okposto will eventually get their goals. When they do they will keep rolling.

by ghalbart on Nov 29, 2011 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

This team has 3 genuinely good lines lately.

Finally.

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by Bryan2112 on Nov 29, 2011 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

Hope it's not too late

The judges would also accept “Let’s not start s&*king each others’ d&cks quite yet”.

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by IslesFanInNJ on Nov 29, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

"normally these muthafu%$as woulda choked n lost that shit

but you happen to catch them in a transition period."

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by Bryan2112 on Nov 29, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Was Avery right about something?

ThisVictoria’s Secret fashion show is quite the joy.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 29, 2011 10:59 PM EST reply actions  

sadly its over

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Nov 29, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Not on my dvr, just started.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 29, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Candace Swaynepool, will you marry me?

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 29, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice win

Now shave those ridiculous mustaches…not you Moulson.

by mickvukota on Nov 29, 2011 11:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

:( I am going to mourn the mo's.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2011 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Lord no

they looked like a bunch of Penn St assistant coaches.

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Nov 30, 2011 6:17 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

LIAR!

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by Dominik on Nov 30, 2011 3:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Winter 2010-11 Redux?

So if last season’s 2nd half Isles reappear this season a few weeks earlier, with steadier goaltending and Mark Streit, then what?

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 29, 2011 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

They also arent in ‘as’ bad of a hole they were last year. Last November, the Isles earned only 5 points in eleven games (1-7-3). This November, they earned 10 points in thirteen (4-7-2). Its certainly not “good” but being 4 games under NHL 500 is a lot different than being 8 games under NHL-500. At least theres that.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 29, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Last season it took Isles 29 games to pick up their 6th win

Isles already have 7 in 22.

Progress.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 29, 2011 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

It's on again at 12am

Looks like the full game.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 29, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

scratch that

apparently he is the first star of the night according to espn

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Nov 29, 2011 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Yo Darth

Were you at the game on Saturday? Also what’s your username on Reddit?

by edavidmorris on Nov 30, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

no i wasnt

i had a family wedding to go to, but i watched the entire thing, and i havent joined reddit yet, im still in the lurking mode where i just read posts

screw homework, its all about islanders hockey

by DarthDoyle on Nov 30, 2011 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

ESPN

also reference “Trent Hunter’s” coaching debut for the Capitals last night. True story.

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by afrosupreme on Nov 30, 2011 6:19 AM EST up reply actions  

lol what?

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 30, 2011 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea

Ridiculous. Watch the highlights in the sidebar.

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Nov 30, 2011 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

well something must be wrong with Hunter

Jason Chimera didn’t run TJ Oshie into the boards after his goal.

Maybe it just takes time to put your stamp on a new team.

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by mikb on Nov 30, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Classic

I trust Chimera will be scratched for that ovesight.

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by Dominik on Nov 30, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

OMG

i almost pissed myself when he said that lol

by Killbox76 on Nov 30, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Tonight's lesson

Don’t spend $10 million on Ehrhoff unless it leaves you with enough money to afford $5 million for Rolston.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 29, 2011 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

Missed second and third periods

But would it fucking kill JT to score a goal?

Maybe he needs the Full Capuano.

=d

by AP77 on Nov 29, 2011 11:55 PM EST reply actions  

He was so good though

Best player on the ice. You had to see this one shift early in the third where he was dodging monster hits, skating around and through people, putting the puck through their feet, only using one hand and controlling the puck. I may have the game dvrd and will tape it and post it if I do. It was beautiful, Jagr like really.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 30, 2011 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Toyota is 6 in the league in save % and 7tn in GAA

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 29, 2011 11:59 PM EST reply actions  

Actually surprised it's not higher

Curse you and bless you, you witch Brian Elliott.

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by Dominik on Nov 30, 2011 3:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I was going to say something about where he stacks up

but 7th and 8th had him sounding mediocre, so I didn’t bother. It’s unbelievable who some of the guys at the top of that list are. Khabibulin, Smith, Elliot, Montoya.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 30, 2011 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Goalies, man

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Nov 30, 2011 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Truth.

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by Dominik on Nov 30, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Those first 3 guys

Have all been on my fantasy team over the past few weeks. Goalies off the waiver wire FTW!!!

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by Zhora on Nov 30, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Kyle's running total and defensemen grades

Kyle 2, Post 2. First post since one of the first games of the season. (1st game?) This is the Kyle we all know and love.

Streit: B+. Good overall game. Some mistakes, which we are used to seeing, but he’s becoming more comfortable with the puck— closer to his old self.
2.972 (22 games played)

Staios: B-. He and Streit looked comfortable out there. They were on the same page. As much as Staios is not-really a top-4 defenseman, he and Streit have some good chemistry now. If Isles are able to trade for a defenseman, it will be interesting to see if they are broken up.
2.244 (22)

Hamonic: A-. Best game a defenseman has played in quite a while. As much as I like his offensive potential, I admit he is much better defensively, and that is where Isles need him to excel.
3.134 (22)

AMac: B. Great in the 3rd period. Okay for the other two periods.
2.694 (22)

The Muppets: B+. Solid throughout. (I think most people missed this last time because I posted so late. Definitely recommend going to see, despite the noisy children.)

Jurcina: C+. Looked shaky in the 1st. Less shaky as the game went on.
2.108 (13)

Mottau: C. He made one good play, as people claim. That raises him above the ‘C-’ level.
1.840 (15)

Not in action:

Eaton:
2.131 (16)

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 30, 2011 12:01 AM EST reply actions  

I actually thought

the Muppets was a new nickname for JurMottau.

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by Fabtraption on Nov 30, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

HA

What’s that?
A four-foot defenseman pruuuuuuune!

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by mikb on Nov 30, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Did I hear D?

Staple:

Capuano hinted that the Islanders may call up a defenseman from Bridgeport for this weekend’s trip to Chicago and Dallas.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 30, 2011 12:05 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

It would make sense

I mean obviously to all of us it would make sense bc Mottau has been for the most part brutal. But being they’ll be playing back to backs half way across the country, if theres an injury in Chicago, they’ll have an extra d-man at their disposal for the Dallas game

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by Chris McNally on Nov 30, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

That's a good point.

It may not be bad to “rest” Mottau the 2nd game, unless another D-man is injured or Mottau plays a solid game against Chicago.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 30, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I REALLY hope it isnt because AMac is hurt.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 30, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that would be a blow

…especially after Isles failed to score on the open net, in which case AMac probably doesn’t block a shot thereafter.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 30, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Ugh

having nightmares about a Reese/Mottau bottom pair.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 30, 2011 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't look now

Two wins AND a smart roster move? Christmas is coming early!

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Nov 30, 2011 6:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Missed the game but

Glad I watched my boys get a big win over Michigan. Was a great game to be at. Watched the highlights and might watch full game later on gamecenter. Glad we got the win, JT looked good, can’t wait until some of those pucks start going in!

by edavidmorris on Nov 30, 2011 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

Keep in mind

Our boys are now eight points from the last playoff spot with 3/4 of the season to go and this with Tavares in a dreadful slump. And they have games in hand on virtually every team they have to pass. And with Al “Coco” Montoya as backstop – if not his famous namesake’s blues guitar virtuousity – there is nowhere to go but up. Just keep Ricky Di Swiss Cheese Pizza away from the goal until Nabokov can play again and the team has a realistic chance.

by kennyboy13 on Nov 30, 2011 2:35 AM EST reply actions  

hahahahahahaah

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 30, 2011 7:21 AM EST up reply actions  

i've never been a Cpas hater

I am now. I’m even a bit of an Ovie fan as far as his game goes.

But I think I might even cheer for the Rags over that POS. Hunter.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 30, 2011 7:23 AM EST up reply actions  

hey boss

I’m confused. Why all opponents wearing #77 now?

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by mikb on Nov 30, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well..

..is saying Pat Flatley was better than Pierre McGuire a compliment?

by Chin Ho on Nov 30, 2011 7:51 AM EST reply actions  

From NS

+ JT was freaking amazing (and all I saw were the highlights). If he keeps going, the goals will come, and in bunches

+/- Montoya apparently amazing and the 5 on 3 was his best, but the highlkights don’t show any of it.

+ a very good road win — maybe they’ve learned how to win?

STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!

by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Nov 30, 2011 8:06 AM EST reply actions  

Highlights don't show it?

Criminal. The next thread has his two glove saves on Roy featured.

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by Dominik on Nov 30, 2011 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not getting my hopes up.

I can’t get my hopes up. I want to get my hopes up. WHAT TO DO!

RUNS AROUND THE ROOM*

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by longbeach on Nov 30, 2011 8:46 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I have no mouth, but I must cheer

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by mikb on Nov 30, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

some light at the end of the tunnel...

Some things that i think are going to move the Isles forward for the next 61 games…
1. Ullstrom and nino are both CONtRIBUTING physically and offensively. They are playing better with more energy than the players that they replaced (Comeau/Pandolfo).
2. The Isles… just who we WANTED them to be. In regards to the forwards this should have been a team that could bring pressure with 4 lines. Besides Nino losing his check on the Buffalo goal (That’s teh way I saw it, but I could be wrong), they played a 60 minute game where all four line contributed.
3. Rolston-Bailey-Ullstrom… The confusion that Comeau brought may have been the problem all along. Bailey is tentative, and maybe comeau being the same way was hurting them even more than we realized. rolston, at least, is consistent. When he gets the puck he’s going to shoot it with a spray and pray mentality. Whether it is Ullstrom or Martin that benefits from 3rd line minutes, please… stick with it. Eventually Nino, Martin or maybe one of the other forwards will EARN Rolston’s spot… and that should carry them a long way in regards to depth.
4. Our defense is horrible… but if they can stay healthy… forwards playing defensively will help. So… don’t expect too many 4+ goal nights. Last night could have easily been one, but Enroth played large… as he has since replacing Miller.
5. The PP needs a new philosophy besides shooting from the point and hoping for a deflection. That isn’t a bad way to go, but that accounts for 95% of their PP goals. There is way too much talent to have such tunnelvision. I know it’s hard to have two D on the points when you only have 3 D that can play 20 mins… but try it. Rolston should not be on the PP point… or the PP for that matter.
6. Montoya… do I really need to go into this. He is their number one option right now. He may “slip” or “slide” at some point… but take advantage of him while he’s hot. That might give Nabby time to heal, or Dipietro time to think about retiring.
7. Haley should remain the 13th forward. At this stage of his development, Nino might not be the better option against more physical teams. I like the aggressiveness against the Sabres, but not against Gerbe… I guess he showed a lot of restraint not to floor that angry dwarf, but he needs to man up against men… not children.
8. My MVP for the first quarter is Matt Martin… and I have a feeling we’re going to see a lot of him in the next 61 games. He has done everything this team has needed… 2 more shots last night and is so far beyond the player second in hits he’s monopolized the stat on the team. I like him on the fourth line protecting Nino… and I wouldn’t want to upset a combo that is working… but it’s nice to think that the next time there is a lull in middle six production they have somebody to plug in and possibly add something.
9. The schedule was brutal in November… and they needed to give some of the D in bridgeport a few games of professional hockey. But things should start to free up on the shuttle in regards to D. I’d expect Wishart, deHaan or maybe reese to see some NHL time soon. I think the first 21 have shown that Mike Mottau doesn’t belong there anymore. The extra roster spot (only two goalies) should help as well.
10. Capuano is proving that he can make this thing work. We wanted a team that worked hard, and played more physical hockey. He sat the two softest guys on the team and released one into the ether. I don’t think he’s going to go down without a fight. he has a few roster spots to work with, and though some of his moves may have been curious, I think they have been for the LONG RANGE good of the club. Okposto has played the best three games of the last two seasons recently. Having reasoner and Nino in the box together watching, probably in a teacher/student capacity (way I see it now) seems to have been a smart move for a kid that can’t go to the AHL. His only defect right now may be fixing the PP… and I think that may fall on Doug Weight being more open to trying something else… or finding an office somewhere.

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by JPinVA on Nov 30, 2011 9:44 AM EST reply actions  

I concur
My MVP for the first quarter is Matt Martin…

Like Parenteau, I was mostly ambivalent towards Martin last year. But this season, he’s probably been their most consistent forward from an energy standpoint. He may never score more than 10 goals in a season, but he’s been a joy to watch so far, even when the games themselves haven’t been.

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by PGI on Nov 30, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Odd that you mention Parentau...

because he would be #2 on the list for me. Yes, tavares and hamonic have played at a consistent somewhat all-star level, but Martin and Parentau have kept their motors running every shift. Parentau has been a positive factor in every combination and so has Martin.
So maybe it shold be MUMVP… Most Unexpected MVP. PAP is earning a really tough decision at the end of the year for Snow. He’s going to have to throw him some ligit top six money (on par with Grabner/Moulson) and he may have some competition for top six time going into 2012-13 with Strome, Petrov and Kabanov coming to town. Petrov and Kabanov will be AHL eligible… Strome, I think, will be where Nino is this year. That will leave the forward cupboard rather full… maybe too much so. But rolston and pandolfo will be gone for sure.

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by JPinVA on Nov 30, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Going into the offseason

PAP will be expecting a multi-year deal. I’m really curious how Garth is going to approach this, because as much as there’s going to be challenge for top 6 (9?) minutes, I don’t think Strome/Petrov/Kabanov should be relied upon for NHL duty yet. Strome seems the most likely, of course, but Petrov is going to need AHL time to acclimate to NA hockey and Kabanov is going to have to pay his dues at the Bridge. If he continues playing out of his gourd, PAP is going to be rewarded with a fat, nice contract…but from whom, is the real question.

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by Fabtraption on Nov 30, 2011 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

If I had to place a bet right now

I’d say Parenteau gets the Moulson three-year extension before the end of this season. That gives Garth the chance to have Kabanov play for the Bridge next year, but still makes PA relatively tradeable should Kabanov come on strong.

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by PGI on Nov 30, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I personally hope they sign him to a Moulson like deal

Three years at reasonable money (if he’ll take it). That takes him into his early 30s, leaves the Isles with some options and flexibility and makes him a valuable trade chip if necessary. The best part of PAP though is that he has clicked wherever he’s been…so if you need to bounce him to line 3, you can do it and not worry about other aspects of his game suffering.

For example, I don’t think Moulson can be bounced to a third line type of role and be successful.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 30, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree...

With one exception… if they can deal him soon for a top 4 defender it would be worth more to the advancement of the team. He is proving that he can play a top six role on an NHL team… but his value might be more as a very middle six guy. I wold think if Snow shopped him with some sweetener he might be able to get a good 20Min defender that could help with defensive depth. A lot of team should be looking to dump salary… i just hope that Kenny Morrow has some targets in mind, and one comes available.
…and of course, this doesn’t mean I’m looking to get rid of PAP… it’s just that there aren’t too many tradeable assets I’d be willing to part with that have NHL success on their resumes. PAP, Nielsen, reasoner… who’s going to take Rolston in a salary dump?… or maybe Bailey if the deal is right.

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by JPinVA on Nov 30, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep, agree there

There is the possibility that what PA brings is replaceable in the system while what we lack (the top D) is not. Depending on the return, I wouldn’t mind losing him. Straight up though, I don’t think he brings back what we’d lose, as part of a package, the D could be upgraded pretty well.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 30, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

I was going to post last night that I was very impressed with PA’s game. There was one play in particular, I think in the first period, where he hustled back on defense, covered an open man who then could not handle the pass that came to him.
I think PA has much more of an all-around game than he would have been known for in the past.
And energy never seems to be question for him.

by JackandAce on Nov 30, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Fully agree

PA has been everything I want in a non-star hockey player. There has not been an ounce of passenger in him. (And not for nothing, he appears to actually take the losing hard and vocally demand more of his teammates.)

It’s his walk year, and he’s playing for a comfortable retirement, but I’d lock him to a Moulson deal if they can swing it.

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by Dominik on Nov 30, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree especially with #1 and #5

Ullstrom had a good game throughout. Still not sure he is deserving of a roster spot though.

Rolston shouldn’t be 1st pair point on the PP. I’d rather have MacDonald-Stret back there on the 1st unit. Glad that Franz isn’t out there either.

by 4PeatSake on Nov 30, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Ullstrom

is just simple. He has some of the good qualities of Comeau (puck possession, skating), without the poor decision making. Simply, he is just making other people better. He takes direct paths to the net as opposed to COZOs and that leaves Bailey to make passes and Rolston to ummm, snipe.

Basically, what he brings to that line is the things he doesn’t do…I think he is allowing the other players on the line to do what they’re supposed to do. I think JPs assessment is spot on in that regard…nobody is worrying about what Comeau was doing and the simple game is getting it done. I’m not sure Ullstrom has more talent than Comeau, but his hockey sense and positioning is night and day.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 30, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Not sure what that means...
Still not sure he is deserving of a roster spot though.

As there are many factors in “deserving a roster spot”, I’d have to say that he fits most of the criteria right now.
1. Options… There is no healthy body better than him right now available to the Islanders without a trade. When Pandolfo returns I would think we will have more information to make the decision, but I’d take a 22 year old Ullstrom over Pandolfo on a regular basis. I’d use Pandolfo more as a coach, and rotate him in for banged up spots later on… if he comes back at all. The only other options are Haley, Dibo, Colliton, Wallace and Cizikas. Haley is right where he needs to be. Colliton could earn reasoner’s spot, but I doubt he has teh upside that Ullstrom does, Wallace has been a consistent AAAA player, and may earn a shot… but I think injury or failure would dictate that… and Cizikas is most likely going to get a full rookie year in the A… his promotion shouldn’t concern them at this point.
2. Effort. Small sample, but he’s doing all the right things. That line is now productive, and he seems to keep his skates moving for his full shift.
3. defensive liability… 3 games.. they have given up 3 goals… I don’t think anybody has been a defensive liability at this point… but that might be argued with a deeper look into his CORSI.

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by JPinVA on Nov 30, 2011 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

3. defensive liability… 3 games.. they have given up 3 goals… I don’t think anybody has been a defensive liability at this point… but that might be argued with a deeper look into his CORSI.

You’ll also probably want to look at who the D pairings were at the time. I’ll bet that line sees a bunch of Mottau.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 30, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking about that..

but I think the reasoner line gets most of the Mottau. (gotta check the charts)

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by JPinVA on Nov 30, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice job by KQ on IPB

If you haven’t already, give it a click and leave a reply. It’s nice to see some objective observations over there again.
Good work bud!

LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA

by JPinVA on Nov 30, 2011 10:51 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

No

Because at IPB you have to stay in character.

by kennyboy13 on Nov 30, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Aww, shcucks

thanks man!

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 30, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

LIAR!

/joke about response to one of KQ’s IPB posts

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Nov 30, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

we might as well do it right then

Liar! Liar! Liar!

We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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by mikb on Nov 30, 2011 3:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Just looked

a lot of free MST3k episodes for free on HULU.

http://www.hulu.com/search?query=Mystery+Science+Theater+3000&st=1&fs=

NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Nov 30, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

Awww, memories.

I think I’ve mentioned this before, but the Riff Trax they do now are worth getting, especially if you have an obsessive friend who will sync their audio track to a copy of the movie on one DVD.

Everything from The Room to Star Wars and Independence Day, Twilight, the works.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Nov 30, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep playing Montoya

The team rally arounds Montoya. He was through with them at the 2nd half and the young guys rally around him. Trade Nabakov and DP ASAP. This road trip is what they needed.
I know they have talent, now to keep building their “Heart” as a team!

by Madswede-Turtledove on Nov 30, 2011 11:08 AM EST reply actions  


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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.

The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.

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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.

Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.

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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.

A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.

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