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Recap Notes: Islanders 3, Devils 2; Sorting Nino Possibilities

The Islanders' 3-2 win over the Devils in Newark salvaged a split of their day-time post-Thanksgiving home-and-home series, with each team taking the road leg and the Islanders landing in 28th place overall after the first quarter of the NHL's 2011-12 season.

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In a fashion too indicative of their season thus far, the Islanders nearly blew this one, or at minimum nearly allowed the Devils to get a share of the spoils. The faceoff in the Islanders zone with 5.6 seconds left was a monumental blown assignment (more detail on that below), and only league review declaring that an uncovered Zach Parise had kicked the puck in kept this one from going to overtime.

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Game Highlights

Mike Mottau, We Have a Problem

You can see the cause in the above clips: Not for the first time this season, Mike Mottau was benched for the remainder of the third period after his turnover and failure to recover led directly to a Devils goal. This time Adam Henrique was the beneficiary of Mottau's backhand clear up the boards which was stopped and converted as Henrique blazed by Mottau and partner Milan Jurcina.

This was minutes after Al Montoya bailed the same pair out with a fantastic toe save on a redirected shot. The third defense pair on any team is the object of fan frustration, but it's fair to say this pair is particularly vulnerable, and Mottau is its most frequent culprit. After several scratches and a couple of third period benchings (whether as punishment or simply to increase the odds of success), it must be time to fill Blake Comeau's vacated spot on the 23-man roster with another option.

Of course, when Evgeni Nabokov comes off IR ...

 

Trapping Affair Becomes Breakaway Fest

These two teams both played pretty conservatively in the opening, trap-happy stages, but Devils powerplay mistakes and the Islanders getting the lead on three separate occasions created plenty of breakaway opportunities that required good saves from Martin Brodeur. On one memorable occasion, Michael Grabner broke in alone, was stopped by Brodeur not once but also on the rebound, and then a prone Brodeur did a Dominik Hasek-style windmill save to stop Kyle Okposo on the rebound.

John Tavares also had a third-period breakaway with a solid move that Brodeur stopped, and Okposo and Grabner were stopped on other solo occasions. Grabner finally broke through on the penalty kill, when Ilya Kovalchuk tried to stickhandle around Grabner's pokecheck in his own zone. Grabner made him pay.

Despite the increased seams in both teams' defenses, the final shot tally was 26-26, just a six-shot increase over yesterday's 23-23. And yet, despite giving up a combined five goals on those 46 shots, each goalie stood on his head. Hockey is a funny game.

 

Functional Game from the Bailey Line?

Breaking the passive-fest, Josh Bailey had a very nice goal that was created by an excellent Brian Rolston play from the corner. The play began with both teams playing neutral zone chicken, with the Islanders finally dumping the puck in and Rolston taking possession in the far left wing corner. He held the puck long enough to freeze the Devils defense and turn to find Bailey breaking into the slot, where he let a fine wrist shot go that would make you want Bailey to ... shoot more often.

David Ullstrom was on the other side, and it was his presence behind the net that gave the Devils D pause. Overall that line looked alright -- which is saying something when they faced Zach Parise and Kovalchuk more than any other Devils.

 

4th-Line Task Force

The fourth line with Matt Martin, Jay Pandolfo and Micheal Haley again saw light work (just 6:30 for Haley), but Matt Martin in particular shined with several smart plays on the penalty kill. With this combination in place it appears Capuano will lean even more heavily on his other three lines while using Martin and Pandolfo in PK and sub situations. Importantly, while Martin and Pandolfo saw their share of PK time, Frans Nielsen drew the most (3:01) and Grabner got his share, too (Grabner also took a minor penalty which obviously kept him off the ice for those two minutes).

 

Tavares Slump?

John Tavares was kept off the scoresheet for the fifth game in a row, but his linemates still put up the first goal without him. Great rush by P.A. Parenteau made possible by Jurcina winning the puck along the boards in the Isles zone. Matt Moulson lost Andy Greene by pulling up high in the slot, where Parenteau fed him to beat Brodeur high. Nielsen was the center on the ice at the time.

Tavares' only shot was on the third-period breakaway mentioned earlier, but he again was key in the faceoff circle, going 13-7 after going a rather absurd 17-3 yesterday.

 

The Final Non-Goal

Thankfully for the Islanders, the video review was on top of Parise shoving that puck in with his foot. (Naturally, Parise firmly believes otherwise.) But the real concern for the Isles here is how poorly that situation was played:


On the faceoff, Steve Staios is lined up on the right wing boards. When Frans Nielsen wins the draw backwards -- based on center hand positioning it looks like that was the event, though I suppose it's possible the Devils wanted it to go to the corner for this unlikely play -- there is no teammate to retrieve it. Dainius Zubrus beats everyone to the puck (with Staios giving futile chase) while Jurcina vacates the front of the net to also try to win the puck (not happening) and as a second resort, block Zubrus' pass.

Grabner is lined up next to Parise, but based on his move immediately after the draw it appears his assignment is to cover the point man. Pandolfo and Jurcina are also next to Parise, and neither takes him. Jurcina follows the puck, while Pandolfo goes to the middle of the circle, then turns to realize how Parise is uncovered and races to get there.

In short, three Islanders lined up next to the most dangerous Devil on the ice, and just seconds later he was all alone in front of Montoya, free to whack and whack away.

If you can figure out who was assigned to whom on that play, you're a better tea leave reader than me. What's clear is none of the Islanders knew where their teammates were going, and a timeout and a plan would have been in order, if for nothing else then to teach Hockey 101.

 

Off-Ice Non-Drama: 140 Characters and Money, Money?!

Really now.

Nino Niederreiter tweeted the following sometime near or during the game (which violates the NHL's new social media policy enacted this year, and so it appears was deleted):

The answer for all those questions I got, is pretty simple…. I don’t know

This could be in response to why he's not playing, it could be in response to "When will you be back in the lineup?" or it could be in response to "Do you think Martin Gerber or Dave Aebischer is the better goalie?" We really don't know. But naturally the Twitter-verse took this as a sign of passion, or of pouting, or of saying there is no contact between player and coach/GM. An interpretation that is, well, so twitterific.

I keep saying this, but I'll say it again: Given Nino Niederreiter's audition last year and his appearances this year (including during the AHL conditioning stint), it's just might be possible that the prospect is not quite NHL ready. It's even possible that the team think he's too good for juniors but not good enough for everyday NHL work. Maybe there are just a few kinks in his game that they hope the 19-year-old can work out here without having to send him back to junior. Maybe the team is evaluating this possibility before making an irreversible decision.

We really don't know, and probably won't until we see more than a week or so of scratches. Granted, this team has invited plenty of drama and paranoia over the years, but it probably does everyone's daily self-loathing angst a little good to observe the possibilities for a while. It was even going around on Twitter and in forums that the Isles would benefit from having Nino on the roster to reach the cap floor (a true statement that requires an alternative cap mule if he's sent back) while not having to pay out his bonuses (not realistic in the slightest).

If you look at the actual performance bonuses available to players on ELC's in the CBA (page 260 if you're curious), you'll quickly realize that this is a non-starter, as most of those minimum bonuses probably aren't achievable for a player who already missed almost a quarter of the season and is, to put it bluntly, not a ready-made star: He's not going to score 20+ goals this year, he's not going to put up 35+ assists, he's not going to make the All-Star Game, and he's not going to put up 60+ points nor .73 points per game.

And those are just the A bonuses. The B bonuses have to do with league-wide awards and finishing in the top 10 in scoring categories which ... if you think he's going to win or reach one of those if only they would play him, then I have a veteran NHL defenseman to sell you for a 7th-round pick.

Ironically, if the Islanders try to nurse him along and he ends up only playing, say, 42 games, he might even end up earning one of the few achievable A bonuses without even a full season of work: One of the CBA-outlined bonus options -- I have no idea if this is in his contract -- is being top three among forwards for plus/minus (minimum 42 games). If his fellow forwards get a good hearty minus-y headstart, Nino becoming a regular by the second half might just position him to fluke into that bonus.

Not likely, but neither is the possibility that he is being scratched purely to save money. The Islanders are a budget team no matter how you look at the roster, but whether or not Niederreiter can help them win games is a question bigger than a maximum $212,500 for any individual bonus. It's also a question that probably turns more on the rest of the roster, where you can find holes to insert your unattained free agent of choice.

 

Jay Pandolfo, the New Marty Reasoner?

You better believe the Chronicles of Nino Niederreiter will be a series worth watching, but until that goes from "curiosity" to "problem" I'm far more troubled by Mottau and more immediately intrigued by what Capuano is doing with the rest of the forwards. If you grant that the top two lines are again stabilized and Ullstrom-Bailey-Rolston at least looks okay for now, then the fourth line with energy/banging roles taken up by Martin and Haley leaves room for only one of Marty Reasoner or Jay Pandolfo to hub those two and log PK time.

You'd think Reasoner should be the better fit but obviously Capuano hasn't thought so the past two games.

So far Reasoner and Pandolfo's shots against while on the PK is about the same (which may actually be influenced by them appearing together, I'm not sure). Their faceoff rates are similar (Reasoner is 102-105, Pandolfo is 9-10), although Pandolfo has only taken 19 so it's too soon to guess there.

At even strength Reasoner's Corsi Rel has been higher than Pandolfo's but again, when the two have been separated Reasoner has had better linemates to play with.

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Just checked the highlights

What a goal by Grabner there! That should be a contender for some sort of highlight competition.

Mottau, ugly even in limited recap minutes. Also, what the hell was Streit doing on that clear? That was Mottau-like.

Just watching it twice there, nice to see us get a call at the end. If they had called that a goal it would have been far, far from the worst call even I’d seen even just this year.

Nino thing has to be a non-story no? Never know in Wild, Wild Islanders Country!

Don't make me bring out the Silky.

by afrosupreme on Nov 26, 2011 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

I'm not sure if Nino's a non-story

They’ve said they aren’t sending him back, but if they think they need to then they will need another cap mule or one of the bonus baby callups from BPT.

I’m just against jumping to conclusions that muddy the situation. I mean, people thought Bailey and even Tavares needed occasional scratches their rookie years (and I agreed back then, too).

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by Dominik on Nov 26, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I mostly meant

the tweet. Doesn’t seem very inflammatory.

Although, in the end I wouldn’t be shocked if he was moved. If they are going to bring in a legitimate top pair defenseman it’s going to take Nino or better.

What’s really crazy about the CBA, and the Islanders could be groundbreakers here, is I’m pretty sure a player technically can be returned to his junior team after nine games-it’s just that the contract kicks in, so the team would be paying the player and NHL salary to play in the CHL.* How would that be for some cap floor circumvention?

There’s also the section that alludes to some sort of date in the NHL/CHL agreement by which players might need to be returned, but of course we know next to nothing about that:

The return dates to Major Juniors (as established by Agreement
between the NHL and the Canadian Hockey League, dated May 2,
1995 (or any successor or similar agreement so long as there is no
material change in those return dates)), and the minor leagues (as
set forth in Section 8.7) are hereby confirmed and affirmed and are
continued during the term of this Agreement and any extension
hereof

Too little information about everything to read too much into anything…

* I thought this might be true because all the CBA talks about is contracts, not whether a player can be returned. Quisp has the same thing here. pertinent: "The nine-game limit is not, as far as I know, a part of the NHL/CHL agreement. The nine-game limit is found in CBA Article 9(d)(i). Players can be returned to junior at any time, even after the nine game limit is reached; but (per 9(d)(i)) at game 10 the player’s contract kicks in. When and how a player gets paid is kinda sorta (entirely) a CBA issue. "

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by afrosupreme on Nov 26, 2011 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Another scenario.

I mentioned it several days ago in one of the threads. It’s entirely possible, rather than going back to Portland, Nino is going to join his WJC Swiss team for training camp and tournament. This way he gets higher level of competition as well as helping the Isles with the salary floor situation. By beginning of January, the team will definitely know where it is in terms of its chances making the post-season and the appropriate personnel moves should be made.

by O.Bender on Nov 26, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm?

Can he play at the world juniors while on an NHL roster?

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by Mark D on Nov 26, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a 100% certain.

I believe, in the past several seasons there was an NHL team that let one of its young players play at the WJC. I’ll try to research it further.

by O.Bender on Nov 26, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

A brief search produced this.

Found on Wikipedia

“Player eligibility

The World Championships have been open to all players, both professional and amateur, since 1977.54 The IIHF lists the following requirements for a player to be eligible to play:118

    “Each player must be under the jurisdiction of an IIHF member national association.”
    “Each player must be a citizen of the country he represents.” "

Also found this recent article referring to the subject:

http://thehockeywriters.com/2012-iihf-world-junior-championship-looking-inside-team-canada/

Here’s the excerpt:

" Prior to the lockout, NHL teams were more willing to loan their junior eligible players to their respective nations and that is reflective in the satistics. In the IIHF World Junior Championship tournaments from 2002 to 2004 (prior to the lockout), five NHL players were released to compete for Team Canada in the tournament including Nick Schultz (Minnesota Wild, 2002), Steve Eminger (Washington Capitals, 2003), Pierre-Marc Bouchard (Minnesota Wild, 2002), Marc-Andre Fleury (Pittsburgh Penguins, 2004) and Brent Burns (Minnesota Wild, 2004). In the six World Junior Championships since the 2005 lockout, Team Canada has received zero players from NHL rosters for the annual junior tournament. "

Of course, the writer only talks about Canadian team here. I’m almost certain there were players in the past several years who participated, while being on the active NHL rosters. Perhaps Sbisa for the Swiss.

by O.Bender on Nov 26, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

This is so sad if thats the case...Most teams try to circumvent the salary cap so they can load their teams with as much top notch talent that they feasibly can....

Isles fans are reduced to speculating that we are doing a reverse circumvention….I wouldn’t put it past them to do the opposite of winning teams….This is why this org continues to be a laughing stock and will never attract quality free agents…Why don’t Isles fans deserve to know why Nino is being scratched???Do you guys think that NINO gets an explanation on why he isnt playing? Hopefully he does…

by KO21 on Nov 26, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

The fans do deserve an explination

Totally. We are all clamoring for some sort of nod to the curious situation of a top 5 draft pick sitting in the press box game in and game out. I know that Snow is reluctant to show his cards, and is very tight lipped when it comes to internal goings-on, but at least a little bit of an interview that says what the plan is would go a long way.

by Jones79 on Nov 27, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Is it a reaction to the Josh Bailey Experience?

Is scratching Nino a implicit indication that Garth Snow feels like he mishandled Josh Bailey? And by keeping Nino up with the Isles, is trying to somehow keep the young winger progressing, but not throwing him to the wolves in the NHL?

That is my feeling. The Isles don’t want to rush another kid into the big show, can’t send him to the AHL where he belongs skill wise, but at the same time feel like his skill set is going to stagnate in the WHL. So they try to make the most of the situation, have the kid practice with the big club this year, next year he heads to the AHL, and in two seasons he will be ready to play at the NHL level?

by Jones79 on Nov 27, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

That probably makes the most sense

…of all the possibilities.

If Nino gets injured in practice, can he have another conditioning stint in Bridgeport?

And isn’t there a tournament that Nino could play in (WJC?), regardless of the number of games he plays with the Isles? Or would 10 games with Isles exclude him from the tournament?

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 28, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

That's not Blake's fault

They gave him Mottau’s number!

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by mikb on Nov 27, 2011 2:41 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

So, it's Mottau's number that forces him to make bad passes?

And here I thought he just sucked. :P

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by Turgeon1992 on Nov 27, 2011 3:05 AM EST up reply actions  

It worked for Parkie.

Did he curse it before he left because he was insulted by the 2-way deal offer?

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Nov 27, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

That pic is priceless.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 27, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

btw
he’s not going to make the All-Star Game

If he gets on a hot streak before the ASG rosters are announced, the league could screw over the Isles again by just sending Nino to the Rookie All Star game as the lone representative for the team. But JT should really be there this year.

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by Mark D on Nov 26, 2011 7:21 PM EST reply actions  

JT

He can get in, but he needs to pick up his production again to get in

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by pgat28 on Nov 27, 2011 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

right now

The Islander I’d consider for the ASG is Parenteau.

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by mikb on Nov 27, 2011 2:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd say yes, but

I’ll bet with the way things have broken down so far, he’s not among the qualified leaders in any statistical categories. He also wasn’t nominated, so at this point, any votes he would’ve received would be write in votes…and, well, we saw how well that went last year when we made that feeble attempt at getting Nielsen in.

If he gets the majority of starts from here on out and plays as well as he’s been, I’m sure he’ll make a couple of all-star “snub lists” though!

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 27, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

As good as PAP has been...

…it was JT (and perhaps Hamonic) carrying the team the first few games. Parenteau was better for a 5 or 6-game stretch, but not as good as JT was for his first 5 or 6. And the past few games, neither has been outstanding.

I hope Streit isn’t the Isles representative. His play this season is no where near all-star quality.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 28, 2011 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I paste you decide

@ChrisBottaNHL
Chris Botta
Niederreiter won’t reach bonuses and will actually make about 1/3 of his big cap hit. #Isles reach floor. Player development!

ChrisBottaNHL Chris Botta
Re Nino, I didn’t use “budget.” @JoeYerdonPHT did! #Isles planned on kid playing F/T. He’s not ready yet. Mgt has decision to make.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 26, 2011 7:31 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

He used to

But the Post fired him after claiming he ruined their journalistic integrity.

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by David Hanssen on Nov 26, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Which tweet

Where he said it’s about money or where he said it’s about development?

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 26, 2011 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he just wants Botta to be wrong in general

by Shanamaj on Nov 27, 2011 4:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Isles need to have Trevor Gillies pay a visit to Botta’s home, where I’m sure Trevor will find Ranger paraphenelia draped all over his house.

by JPinNYC on Nov 27, 2011 8:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

23rd Spot

Just curious to whom everyone guesses is going to be called up to take that final spot?

I’m guessing since the spot has remained open for a few days, that the plan is to bring up DeHaan. He can be brought up, and sent back down, without waivers, so they can take a look at him without risk of losing him. The delay in calling him up would be to give him a few games at Bridgeport to get back into shape since he’s just returning from injury.

by Bryville19 on Nov 26, 2011 7:42 PM EST reply actions  

Honestly I think it will be Reese

I think they’ll let the younger d-men at least get a half season under their belts before we see any of them

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by Chris McNally on Nov 27, 2011 2:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I would definitely pick Reese over Mottau.

And I don’t care for Reese one bit. He’s a slightly better version of Gervais… but only a teeny bit.

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by Turgeon1992 on Nov 27, 2011 3:06 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ness

You know what you get with Reese. We need another Hamonic surprise this year, and from what I saw from Ness preseason (albeit small sample size), I believe he’s got good puck control, moves it well, and has wheels. I think he’s the Islander D prospect right now that is most likely to surprise people and hold his own in the NHL.

by JPinNYC on Nov 27, 2011 9:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Considering the Isles D

outside of Streit, none of them are known as puck movers. Hell, Mottau and Staois can’t make a pass for shit. Wouldn’t it do the Isles some good, and possibly jumpstart their offense a bit, by bringing up Ness and seeing what his puck moving skills can bring? Pair him with Jurcina, that way you’ve got a big body to pair with a small defenseman.

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by Fabtraption on Nov 27, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Ness or Donovan

I wouldn’t mind seeing either. But Wishart is still my top choice…. I think we all agree, though: anyone but Mottau.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 28, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually think NIno is ready. Is going to go 15/25/40, no, but he could go 10/20/30 in 60 games.

He hasn’t looked out of place to me. Now, if they’re playing this slowly to see if they might be better served to bring up a Dman, I could go along with that I guess. Dump Mottau and play Nino and DeHaan.

by NewIsles on Nov 26, 2011 8:35 PM EST reply actions  

Mottai

Time for Mottau, Staios, Jurcina, Pandolfo and Rolston to go. 3 of them were on the ice for that last second non-goal today and well they let Parise get to front of net all alone. ENOUGH SAID.

Play Nino and bring up some defense they cannot be worse than 3 of the above mentioned and well they could be called young not just shitty players.

As far as that non-goal. What the hell was the ref looking at Parise was on the goal line wacking at Montoyas glove. Goalie Interference game over.

by Jzam on Nov 26, 2011 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Nino musings

I said it in the previews for last season, I don’t think Nino should have even been given the 9 game try-out last year and this year as well. He’s just too raw of a player to be in the NHL, maybe even next year as well. When you look at guys in the NHL now who he projects as (Specifically I’m thinking a Bobby Ryan type as a bigger scoring winger coming out of the major juniors), they take time to develop.

Ryan will be my primary example. He spent his 18 and 19 year old years in the OHL and most of his 20 year old season in the AHL. Ryan did not become a regular NHLer until he was 21 years old. He was the 2nd overall pick and at 20 most people were calling him a bust because the Ducks allowed him to develop.

We also forget Nino was one of the youngest in his draft class. Don’t. He’s now 19 years and two months old. He should be back in Portland. I know this isn’t a popular opinion, but I’d much rather take it slow with Nino than the Isles Colton Gillies/James Sheppard/Gilbert Brule/Alexander Picard him into a marginal NHL player.

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by David Hanssen on Nov 26, 2011 10:56 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

The Ducks

Also had time to let him develop. They were out of the playoffs the season before they drafted him, but in the 2 seasons before and after they drafted him they made the Finals twice and the Conference finals once.

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by Mark D on Nov 27, 2011 12:05 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm starting to agree here

I like what Nino looks like offensively, he’s visible getting in corners, hitting and going to the net. But defensively, I have a feeling he has no idea where to be…what zone to cover or which man to take.

They should play him once a week, get him a “groin pull”, then get him to the AHL for two week conditioning stints.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 27, 2011 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Also

I think that Colliton can do a better or reasonable impression of Pandolfo/Reasoner while enabling that 4th line to play some more minutes.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 27, 2011 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

And Nino's effectiveness hinges on his hockey IQ

…or perhaps more accurately awareness.

We know he (a) has good size, (b) can skate well enough, © has terrific hands for a power forward and (d) at least an average NHL wrist shot (I think it’s quicker and harder than most NHL forwards from the little I’ve seen). He looks like he has a lot of desire to play hard.

If his “hockey IQ” / awareness hits above average, I see no reason why Nino won’t be a heck of an NHL player one day.

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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 28, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I never viewed Nino being up with the team this season as a given

But I’ve got no problem with the 9-game trial last year and this year.

The NHL-CHL agreement kind of puts the screws to NHL teams in this scenario. I say use whatever options you have to get as much information on the player as you need.

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by Dominik on Nov 27, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

All hail the "Big Cubano"!!!

I’m proud of Cappy for starting him in 2 games in less than 24 hours…I hope Cappy rides MONTY for the rest of the season…I just hope that when Nabby gets back that he doesnt get forced in there just so Garth can showcase him for a fucking 4th round pick…Can someone tell me what happens if they sent DP down or put him on waivers???

by KO21 on Nov 26, 2011 11:20 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry, but all signs point to Nabokov getting starts when he is healthy and for as long as he is an Isles goalie. And Rick will get starts here and there, too- though definitely not as much as those two. I suggest (in general, not to you specifically) that people just deal with it.

Can someone tell me what happens if they sent DP down or put him on waivers???

They cant. With where they are capwise, they would get fined millions of dollars. I wish that would prevent people from asking for it daily. Read here for details of what happens if a team goes below the floor.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 27, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

wouldn't his salary still count

For cap purposes if they sent him to bpt (assuming, and its a safe one, that no one claimed him)?

by randyboyd on Nov 27, 2011 12:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Nope.

It would be the same as when the Rangers sent Redden down.

Rolstons caphit would still count because he is a 35+ contract, not anyone elses.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 27, 2011 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Which doesn't explain why we don't send Rolston down !

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by garik16 on Nov 27, 2011 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I know what youre getting at-

but with where the Isles are right now capwise there is a big risk.
I mentioned it here- as unlikely as it is, if someone were to actually claim Rolston the Isles could be fined millions.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 27, 2011 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah you're right

I couldn’t see Wang letting Snow risk exposing Rolston. Plus as much as I can’t stand the guy, I’d rather spend the fine money on a player in the offseason. Not that there’s a good chance of that happening, but if it’s written in a check to the NHL, there’s slim to none chance of it happening

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by Chris McNally on Nov 27, 2011 2:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Later in the season they will be able to do it, since all contracts are prorated. (Please dont ask me to calculate when lol) But, depending on how things are going with him, it will become an option again. Of course if there was any kind of trade and the Isles brought in some salary, this would be a moot point and they could do whatever they want with him again.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 27, 2011 2:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Im with ya on this lol

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 27, 2011 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

And worse still is

that 1st round pick…which is looking like it will be a good one.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 27, 2011 9:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, but all signs point to Nabokov getting starts when he is healthy and for as long as he is an Isles goalie.

I’m less sure about this now. Two injuries in the first two months has probably negated any trade value he may have had. There’s still the problem of DP being an unreliable backup (both injury-wise and play-wise), which may require three players going forward, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they find a way to accomodate Evgeni off the Island, even if it’s just waiving him (and he’s partial to that, of course).

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by afrosupreme on Nov 27, 2011 7:48 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The way they just let Comeau go

I could see them waiving Nabokov at some point…just after one of the BPT guys emerges as reliable…and by BPT guys, I mean Poulin. Nilsson looks like he’s gonna need more time even though he looks to be playing the better right now.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 27, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. Nabby is fragile and older, I'd be really surprised if he has much of any trade value with his injuries.

Although, I still could see Cap/Garth giving him too many starts stupidly.

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by OzzyFan on Nov 27, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

No deal until the deadline

I think the Isles are going to have a three-headed goalie situation until the deadline. Unless there is a catastrophic injury, to say Jon Quick, and Bernier proves he can’t handle the work load, or some other scenario like that I doubt a team will be interested in taking Nabakov until they know that they need more depth in net.

All-star game is the absolute earliest I see a move being made to clear up the goaltending situation in Long Island.

by Jones79 on Nov 27, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

EN does appear to be very fragile...

use him as a last resort, Monty 3 games, RDP 1 game.

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by IslanderDoug on Nov 27, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

When they were all healthy, he was played slightly more than Montoya and both of them played more than Rick.
He got a number of starts later when Montoya was injured and we didnt know he was injured, apparently the org felt more comfortable with him starting than Rick.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 27, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

by slightly I mean like a game.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 27, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Psst..."him" = "Empty Net"

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by Dominik on Nov 27, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I had the same reaction

EN is our fourth goalie. Doesn’t cost a penny.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 27, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m less sure about this now. Two injuries in the first two months has probably negated any trade value he may have had.

I Think that might be all the more reason he might get starts once healthy- to disspell that.

There’s still the problem of DP being an unreliable backup (both injury-wise and play-wise), which may require three players going forward

DiPietro is not unreliable as a backup, he had a bad couple of games and some fine games and some wins. He is alright as a backup.

but I wouldn’t be surprised if they find a way to accomodate Evgeni off the Island, even if it’s just waiving him (and he’s partial to that, of course).

I really dont see it being that he gets waived again unless there some kind of falling out with the ISles… and things seem fine between him & the organization. I think he is either getting traded to someone or he is just staying here and finishing his contract.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 27, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he has to agree to be waived, so there is a real possibility he refuses it, but that forces the Islanders into the three goalie bind, which would be unfortunate. It doesn’t seem farfetched that he could be moved for a 6th or 7th rounder if it becomes a problem again.

I have a hard time calling DP a reliable backup. He’s in the bottom 10 goalies of any kind in the league the past three years. I’m not holding out hope that he’s really going to improve much, if at all, anymore.

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by afrosupreme on Nov 27, 2011 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup, correct.

Thats why I could only see waivers happening if Nabokov was a the end of his rope and just wanted out. Its not happening. If Nabokov is to be traded, its only going to go through if its where he and his family want to go.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 27, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I doubt he moves his family no matter where he goes-talking a matter of 6 months at this point, but waiving him potentially lands him on another team with zero playoff hopes-probably not what he’s looking for.

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by afrosupreme on Nov 27, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont know about that

He had family problems last year, his career is more behind him than ahead of him, I think family is a lot more of a priority with Nabokov than you think.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 27, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont think they'll waive him

bc unlike Blake, there seemed to be like a deal or two close to happening with interested teams for Nabokov. The Isles will be able to pull the trigger on a deal a lot easier. So like you said, unless hes at the end of his rope, Nabokov won’t be let walk for nothing. It probably would never get to that point, unless he continues to show hes damaged goods, then he useless to us and other teams.

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by Chris McNally on Nov 27, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Nabokov is valuable, unlike Comeau.

Even in Nabokov’s limited play, he has put up decent numbers and has a career to back up his trade value. Comeau has horrible numbers and career numbers that aren’t impressive.

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by Turgeon1992 on Nov 27, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

The bigger problem with Nabokov is he’s 36 and has already suffered two groin injuries. That’s going to make it very difficult to extract any value from him trade-wise.

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by afrosupreme on Nov 27, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

yup, thats possible.

His cheap cost and this being his walk year will help a lot, though- if he is healthy and playing well.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 27, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Good signs

-FNGO is FINALLY bringing back memories of second half of last season
-Bailey’s play has been solid lately
-three consecutive decent efforts from the team

IF (a big giant IF) they can start winning at the rate they did second of 2010-11, maybe they meet our pre-season expectations of “in the hunt in March.” But if they do and fall short of playoffs we will all be pulling our hair out about what could have been if they wouldn’t have had such a horrible start.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 27, 2011 1:20 AM EST reply actions  

So we got that going for us

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by afrosupreme on Nov 27, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

:) Just stay in this mindset, Kyle. Please. Its so pleasant to see you looking like yourself again.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 27, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

did you make that?

KO’s pic is killing me.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 27, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

Yup. Fransies pic is the one thats killing me. I made him look kinda sad, like he usually looks when he is just sitting there lol.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 27, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

that better get double digit recs.

Next up, matty Mo red eye pic. ;o)

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 27, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

ha, thank you.

Im working on Moulson right now actually- but he’s Canadian so its a whole different set of rules.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 27, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

That would mean hsi mouth wouldnt be connected to the rest of his head

If you pull that off youll be my new favorite person

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by Chris McNally on Nov 27, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Is Haley next, lol.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 27, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha awesome

I’ll assume Matty Ice is the one with the glazed over eyes

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by Chris McNally on Nov 28, 2011 4:13 AM EST up reply actions  

His nym is Booker T?

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 27, 2011 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah thats Kyle

It was originally his GF’s twitter and he was using it covertly… then Grabner outed him on Twitter to everybody.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 27, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Soooo good.

That’s nothing, I once waited a whole year for September.

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by garik16 on Nov 27, 2011 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

...

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 27, 2011 2:09 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

One thing I was surprised about

Al Montoya really could have been given a penalty for roughing Parise after the un-goal. He pretty much tackled him and gave him a forearm shiver for good measure. I’m not sure what the rule is for minor penalties that late in the game… IIRC the refs can award a penalty shot in that situation since it’s the last seconds of the game and the Devils can’t get a real power play out of the penalty.

Regardless, Al’s got to hold his temper on that. I’m still kind of amazed the Isles got the benefit of the doubt on the call. No need to push their luck.

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by mikb on Nov 27, 2011 2:47 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

I agree on Al holding his temper.

His temper helped cost the Isles the game against the Avs since it was the penalty on Al that put them down 1 in OT. I believe it was the Avs game…

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by Turgeon1992 on Nov 27, 2011 3:08 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Did you ever think

the guy on this team you’d be worried about with temper would be Montoya? I kind of like it, and I think you need some of that from a goaltender who can actually back it up with play and not break himself into a million pieces doing it.

I agree with you 100% on timing and stealth though, but I’ll never not have a soft spot for a Billy Smith type between the pipes.

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 27, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I kind of like it, too.

I think he is handling himself fine. Im OK with him being on the line at times and even taking a penalty once in a while- sometimes that kind of has to be done to establish ones boundaries as a player.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 27, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

Also, I’d rather Montoya give up a penalty every so often rather than blow the game on an ill-advised pass up center ice.

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by Fabtraption on Nov 28, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed

I thought the penalty in the Avs game in OT was a sham – not worth whistling down. So it’s sort of nice to see Al Pacino Montoya get the benefit of the doubt this time. I can see taking a penalty every once in a while rather than being too passive. But if you live on the line, you gotta be smart about it.

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by mikb on Nov 28, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree, 2nd time he visibly lost his temper.

He was getting swatted in the glovehand though and parise was making contact with him in the crease, Parise should have gotten called for that too. But Montoya has to stay level headed, especially during crunch time.

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by OzzyFan on Nov 27, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Also agree,

maybe he’s channeling Smitty. Not a bad thing.

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by IslanderDoug on Nov 27, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Al was sick of being run when he took that penalty a few games ago

Not a coincidence haley was soon after called up.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 27, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

On the Nino discussion ...

I don’t know if he’s ready for full time NHL play or if he should be back down, but just keeping him here to sit and question and wonder and stew seems like the absolute WORST of all possible choices.
The guy should be playing SOMEWHERE.

by dose on Nov 27, 2011 8:55 AM EST reply actions  

Unless, as someone up there suggested,

he’s part of a deal in the making.
Hmmm.

by dose on Nov 27, 2011 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Lord knows, the Isles have holes to fill.
Except for goaltending, there are needs for a power forward and defense.
Boy do we need a defender.

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by Martys301 on Nov 27, 2011 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

There's one player ...

in the league I’ve seen enough of to think is THE perfect guy for this team at this time.
He may not put them over the top by himself but would make this a much better team instantly.

I’m ascared to even mention the guy’s name.
I guess it’s a DEFENSE mechanism.

by dose on Nov 27, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Komisarek!

amirite?

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by afrosupreme on Nov 27, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

BINGO.

The guy on the left coast would fit a couple of this team’s needs like a glove. I mentioned before that he’s the only D-man I’ve watched that even remotely reminds me of Potvin in any way, specifically, the way the carries the puck and scans the scene as he gets to the offensive zone. Before some people start yelling at me for comparing anyone to #5 who’s one of my all-time favorite players, I’m not saying Doughty is as good, I’m just saying that the way he leans as he cruises and scopes the scene just reminds of Potvin. He’s also about the same size. And, he’s a damn good, potentially great, player.
Anyway, I just think Doughty would instantly change this team. A long, long shot I know, but nothing’s out of the question anymore.

by dose on Nov 28, 2011 7:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Larsson?

F Larsson!

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by Bryan2112 on Nov 27, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh how win's feel good.

And we might need to add “flash of rolston” to the reference book.

Plus, Bailey “shoots”! And Bailey scores! I also might add, “Bailey, you have nothing to be ashamed about with shooting. You have a decent shot.”

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by OzzyFan on Nov 27, 2011 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

I also might add, "Bailey, you have nothing to be ashamed about with shooting. You have a decent shot."

He really does. Shoot more, Josh. Please.

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 27, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Waive/scratch Mottau

let Reasoner play as our 6th D

All in favor?

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Nov 27, 2011 10:51 AM EST reply actions  

has he ever played D?

we have too many players we should be scratching – assuming we want to start playing Nino, we need to scratch
Reasoner, Rolston, Mottau and once Nabokov is back, RDP

who gets cut then? Haley going to yoyo back to BPT a bit probably

by Cary K on Nov 27, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think Haley is going anywhere.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 27, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure reasoner would be better than mottau, then again Garth could probably play better defense.

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by Turgeon1992 on Nov 27, 2011 1:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Per Twitter: Dale Hunter to replace Boudreau as Caps Coach

Way to instantly create an Isles/Caps rivalry.

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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 27, 2011 10:05 PM EST reply actions  

Link?

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by Dominik on Nov 27, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Youre joking, right?

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by TheMetalChick on Nov 27, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, okay

People saying Kypreos said on (whatever network he’s on) that the Caps could fire BB in the next 48 hours, and he’s heard rumors about a replacement…

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by Dominik on Nov 27, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Then Snow must fire Cappy and hire Turgeon for any Caps games.

Then have Turgeon beat him senseless. A lot. Also, bring back Pilon as assistant.

by Les Beaver on Nov 27, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think it was a fake Kypreos twitter account

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by Keith Quinn on Nov 27, 2011 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I did see this rumor too

granted it was from Incarcerated Bob, so take it for what its worth

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by Chris McNally on Nov 28, 2011 4:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Defensemen Grades

Kyle 2, Post 1. Another very good game by Kyle, though, highlighted by helping to create his own breakaway, and then setting up Grabner for a breakaway and nearly slamming in the rebound.

Streit: B. One bad giveaway, but set up one of Grabner’s breakaways and created another good scoring chance. Also hustled back (like he was shot from a cannon) to cancel out a 3-on-2 when he was caught.
2.956 (21 games played)

Staios: C+. The first two periods he was playing well. Made a couple bad mistakes in the 3rd. (I don’t blame him much for Larsson’s goal— that was almost a 4-on-2.)
2.222 (21)

Hamonic: B. So-so for Hamonic.
3.107 (21)

AMac: B-. So-so for AMac.
2.679 (21)

The Muppets: B+. Solid throughout.

Jurcina: C. Has to share some of the blame for the 2nd goal. Also caught in between on the 3rd.
2.092 (12)

Mottau: C-. Was on his way to a good game until his bad turnover caught him in between for the 2nd goal. The top 3 defensemen averaged about 25 minutes. Mottau played 9:19, Jurcina 15:56. Surely Isles can find someone in Bridgeport who can play 9:19 more effectively.
1.829 (14)

Not in action:

Eaton:
2.131 (16)

BTW, if the rule says “distinct kicking motion”, I don’t see how Devils can argue the no-goal call at the end. From the overhead, you can see Parise’s lower leg move independently. In soccer, that would be just as much of a “distinct kicking motion” as kicking with the inside of the foot or the top of the foot. HOWEVER, if the rule said “distinct kicking effort”, perhaps the goal would have stood, because I was only about 90% convinced that he intended to kick the puck. It could possibly have been an accident…. What was interesting to me was that Ref said he “Controlled the puck” with his skate in his explanation, so perhaps my understanding of the rule is incorrect. (I thought if it was a “distinct kicking motion”, the intent of the player was irrelevant.)

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