Islanders Bits, NHL Power Rankings: Falling, falling
by Dominik on Nov 22, 2011 12:13 PM EST
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[UPDATE: Mark Eaton is out for six weeks with that left MCL sprain.]
Believe it or not, despite two wins in 14 games, the Islanders are still not Columbus! But they probably wish they were.
The Blue Jackets have played better lately, are slowly chipping away at the awful start accentuated by injuries, a suspension and awful goaltending, and before long Columbus should be solidly not-last in the NHL. For now, the way opinion polls and our power rankings tend to trail the flow of play, they are the only team consistently ranked behind the Islanders in the media surveys.
Another kick to the gut? According to stat tracker Eric Hornick, the Islanders' overall franchise record is now back down to .500 for the first time since 1978. It's like one more piece of dignity chipped away.
Links of misery and power tablature follow.
Islanders (Mostly) Links
- Hornick's "Skinny" from last night's atrocity.
- Newsday with the straight dirt.
- A decent-ish column from Bruce Arthur amid the Crosby hoopla as Crosby "celebrates the first day of the rest of his life."
- Add one more to the "it's the Islanders goaltending" tally. Sure.
- Did you vote for Hamonic? Reader Contest: Which NY Islander dares hit Sidney Crosby first? - Puck Daddy
- And one more from Puck Daddy: The 11 Ickiest Lines from Pierre McGuire about Sidney Crosby's Return
- Coach spec was the topic of the night: "On the odd chance Wang/Snow don't hire another buddy, Michel Therrien is warming up his snarl and bark. #Isles like him." (How does one move from the "like" list to the "buddy" list? And at which point is friending involved?)
- Schultz at IPB: Has this team tuned out another coach?
- CBS Local: Not blaming the coach, or the GM, but fearing the disaster this awful start could create.
- Kerry Fraser manages to make last night about him, a little: on other much-awaited NHL returns.
- I manage to make this link list about me, a little: I'll be doing some general columns for SBN's NHL page. Here's the first one, on healthy scratches.
- The Western Conference side is linked in the Blue Jackets note at the top of the page. Here's Copper & Blue's look at the East via Fenwick (possession data, like Corsi) and save percentage ranks. The Islanders are last in neither but bottom four in the East in both categories.
- Finally, here's a report card on a team doing much better, riding a great player's great first quarter: Mirtle on the Leafs.
Late Additions:
- IPB talks Andrey Pedan
- NYIFYI on last night
- Very good read when considering the state of the Isles: Is There a Truly Great NHL GM?
How Other Teams See the Islanders
Via BenHasna in comments, video of Dan Bylsma's pre-game talk last night:
Media Power Rankings
Make it stop.
| Outlet | Rank | Last Week | Their Commentary |
| CBSSports | 30 | 28 |
The team is struggling to score, goalies are getting injured, and coach Jack Capuano was upset after a 6-0 home loss to the Bruins over the weekend because his team lacks the passion it played with at the end of last season. |
| THN (Proteau) |
28 | 27 |
Only Ducks (0.66) have worse 5-on-5 goals-for/against ratio than Isles (0.67). |
| ESPN (LeBrun) |
29 | 29 | With only two wins in November, the free-falling Isles are the lucky ones to get Sidney Crosby's return game. |
| CBC | n/a | 29 | [-/- pending -/-] |
| TSN (Cullen) |
28 | 25 | Two wins in the last 13 games and their two best goaltenders (so far this season) are currently hurt. |
| Fox | 29 | 29 | It doesn’t matter if Evgeni Nabokov, Rick DiPietro or Al Montoya starts – the Isles haven’t allowed fewer than three goals in a game since Oct. 15. |
| Average |
28.8 |
27.8 | Sidney Crosby? Sidney Crosby. But seriously ... Sidney Crosby. |
Real Power Rankings
These are before last night's loss (and other Monday games).
Our weekly "real" power rankings are courtesy of our own ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles (who is the one you'll find tirelessly compiling FIG picks in the game thread), conceived and delivers these week after week. They reflect games through Sunday.
Explanation of how he does it is in the original post. If you have any questions about it, leave them in comments and he'll likely answer. For reference, last week's post is here.
| W | L | OTL | Pts | Win Pct | PWR | ||
| 1 | San Jose | 12 | 5 | 1 | 25 | 0.694 | 2133 |
| 2 | Phoenix | 10 | 5 | 3 | 23 | 0.639 | 1956 |
| 3 | NY Rangers | 10 | 4 | 3 | 23 | 0.676 | 1890 |
| 4 | Philadelphia | 11 | 5 | 3 | 25 | 0.658 | 1874 |
| 5 | Minnesota | 12 | 5 | 3 | 27 | 0.675 | 1845 |
| 6 | Pittsburgh | 11 | 6 | 3 | 25 | 0.625 | 1830 |
| 7 | Nashville | 10 | 5 | 4 | 24 | 0.632 | 1814 |
| 8 | Edmonton | 10 | 7 | 2 | 22 | 0.579 | 1812 |
| 9 | Los Angeles | 10 | 7 | 3 | 23 | 0.575 | 1805 |
| 10 | New Jersey | 10 | 7 | 1 | 21 | 0.583 | 1774 |
| 11 | St. Louis | 10 | 7 | 2 | 22 | 0.579 | 1770 |
| 12 | Chicago | 12 | 6 | 3 | 27 | 0.643 | 1723 |
| 13 | Florida | 10 | 6 | 3 | 23 | 0.605 | 1722 |
| 14 | Washington | 10 | 7 | 1 | 21 | 0.583 | 1716 |
| 15 | Boston | 11 | 7 | 0 | 22 | 0.611 | 1695 |
| 16 | Detroit | 11 | 7 | 1 | 23 | 0.605 | 1659 |
| 17 | Buffalo | 12 | 8 | 0 | 24 | 0.600 | 1653 |
| 18 | Toronto | 11 | 8 | 2 | 24 | 0.571 | 1653 |
| 19 | Montreal | 9 | 8 | 3 | 21 | 0.525 | 1592 |
| 20 | Dallas | 11 | 8 | 0 | 22 | 0.579 | 1580 |
| 21 | Tampa Bay | 9 | 8 | 2 | 20 | 0.526 | 1555 |
| 22 | Vancouver | 10 | 9 | 1 | 21 | 0.525 | 1519 |
| 23 | Ottawa | 10 | 9 | 2 | 22 | 0.524 | 1487 |
| 24 | Winnipeg | 8 | 9 | 3 | 19 | 0.475 | 1439 |
| 25 | Calgary | 8 | 9 | 1 | 17 | 0.472 | 1372 |
| 26 | Anaheim | 6 | 10 | 4 | 16 | 0.400 | 1369 |
| 27 | Colorado | 9 | 11 | 1 | 19 | 0.452 | 1262 |
| 28 | Carolina | 7 | 11 | 3 | 17 | 0.405 | 1253 |
| 29 | NY Islanders | 5 | 9 | 3 | 13 | 0.382 | 1214 |
| 30 | Columbus | 4 | 13 | 2 | 10 | 0.263 | 748 |
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Can it really get much worse right now for this team? I’d def look for some sort of announcement today regarding a change or transaction. Have to do something or this looks like it will get out of control.
I guess Ullstrom isn't doing it for you?
"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington
It's also rough seeing the Rags up that high.
I was shouting at my Excel spreadsheet when it spat out the results.
Also, I went to comment on your SB Nation story, Dom, but I have to wait 24 hours.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Nov 22, 2011 12:33 PM EST reply actions
No way the Rags should be that high
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 22, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Well they did have a 7 game winning streak
Even if it was a mirage and a farce in every sense
"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992
They should for the moment.
The calculations don’t take lucky bounces into account. :-)
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Nov 22, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
My goodness
I guess they won’t let just anybody comment over there :P
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
That's probably for the best.
I shouldn’t be allowed to speak almost anywhere.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Nov 22, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Yea
you’d think be a member of any SB Nation blog would make you a member of the default one. Odd.
Don't make me bring out the Silky.
Maybe trolls have ruined that
Are you forgetting the amount of morons the internet brings us?
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 22, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
UNWATCHABLE
they are soooo close to being that, it’s gross
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i'm climbing on board AP77
if there’s room on the lifeboat that is
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Sorry, we’re going down with the ship. It will be a fun ride though! I’m bringing drinks.
=d
by AP77 on Nov 22, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 22, 2011 12:51 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
........
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 22, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Please use a subject line when posting images
It makes it easier for some users.
(oh, I see you learned before this posted.)
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I got you. ;o)
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 22, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
And of course you know I'm not picking on you ;)
I figure this is one of those things I should probably repeat more so more people happen to see it. Especially in busy threads, collapsing images (by clicking on the subject line) makes it easier. And then there’s people at work, etc.
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Capuano pre-game speech
We supply everything but GUTS!
by noomz on Nov 22, 2011 1:01 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
When does the gut supplier get here?
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 22, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
The new Isles gut supplier
What the fuck happened to the Isles I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh?
by FireGarthSnow on Nov 22, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hot.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Nov 22, 2011 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
I would welcome any coach with decent NHL experience. No more fucking buddies. Snowang have to balance between buddies and new faces with winning experience.
2011-2012 is looking like another losing season.
by Turgeon1992 on Nov 22, 2011 1:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Does Payne count?
He might have had difficulty keeping the kids in STL from, ah, late nights, but he has the tactical side down.
/mind you, I doubt the Isles are looking/will look there
//mind you, I’m not convinced even he would come here for his 2nd and possibly last shot
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I thought
that Payne did a good job in StL, but the headlines announcing his taking over would be atrocious…
There is a problem with outliving your enemies, it usually means that you have outlived your friends as well...
Honnor thy father - D. Vader (Robert Asprin, Myth series)
by burpchelischili on Nov 22, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
Payne don't hurt
(Just ask Dalton)
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I don't see why not.
I think a few coaches might be improvements over Capuano. Regardless of how much of the blame to assign him, I don’t think the experiment is working anymore. And I also think there are players who should go away (cough*rolston*cough), but finding a trading partner is probably more difficult than finding a new coach. While players often find renewed life in a second-chance atmosphere, the Isles may create that through a new coach (or at least some new strategies at this point… but Cap seems at the end of his rope..)
2011-2012 is looking like another losing season.
From Hornick
91 to Go
The Isles have scored 9,909 goals in their history (excluding 39 shootout winners), leaving the club 91 shy of 10,000.
So, will we make it this year?
Don't make me bring out the Silky.
Ha!
Maybe.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Nov 22, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Will Okposo's 1st of the season be the Isles' 10,000th
…as 10,000 balloons fall from the ceiling?
"The reader of this sentence exists only while reading me."
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 22, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
How shameful would that be?
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Nov 22, 2011 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Like what they are doing now isnt shameful enough?
At this point Id welcome the frickin balloons lol.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Nov 22, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, I menat for KO
I mean, imagine if the Isles 10,000 goal came in game 38-44 and that was his first goal of the season and balloons fell all over him? How freaking embarrassing would that be?
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Nov 22, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
OMG I dont even want to think about that- I was just fixated on the balloons concept itself lol.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Nov 22, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
The main reason I suggest balloons
…is so that the Isles’ defensemen can catch their breaths. Hopefully it will happen in the 2nd period, when the Isles are their most tired.
Balloons can take about 20 minutes to fall, if you put the right mix of helium in them.
"The reader of this sentence exists only while reading me."
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 23, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Atlantic Division Dominance
Not that this should be too shocking to any of us, who know the pains of being in the Atlantic basement all too well- but I was pretty damn surprised to see the Rags, Pit, Phi and NJ as the highest ranked Eastern Conference teams in our Real Power Rankings. I knew the division was the best in hockey- but there is not one other Eastern Conference team that slides in ahead of them (Boston over NJ comes to mind as a surprise)? Even if this changes by next week, it’s pretty crazy to see that snapshot- talk about a statement about the quality of our division.
As if our Islanders needed anything else stacked against them, every fourth game they are playing against a serious contender within our division (and they are 4 pt swings.. usually). We’ll never compete in this division until we take some serious strides in the right direction (and no, I don’t mean a Marty Reasoner signing).
from NYPost, Nelson Peltz interested in NJ Devils
from ESPN, on the Dallas Stars new owner Tom Gaglardi
… the only way you win is you build from within. You build, draft, develop and coach. That’s the philosophy I come with.
I think there have been enough cases around the NHL to know that you cannot buy a winner, so I believe in the old fashioned way of building teams. Having said that, we’re here to win. This isn’t about anything other than becoming a great team and pursuing championships. If Joe (Nieuwendyk) and his staff think that is something we can do in terms of stepping up and doing more in that regard, then we’re going to do it.
I wonder what Wang’s thoughts are lately.
We must take all players that the Devils give up on
Eventually, we will take all of the Devils and then we can move into the Prudential Center.
Too too fitting
His lone goal for the Preds came in a game at Calgary, when a shot by Jack Hillen deflected off his upper body and into the net.
and
Nicknamed “J.P. Svatos” here because of his offensive talents combined with an inability to crack the Preds’ lineup on a regular basisIt’s perfect, especially when you consider our budget aims to be the Nashville of the East.
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by Dominik on Nov 22, 2011 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And they play their best goalie
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 22, 2011 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
at least he's got the size
we’re looking for
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Bergfors never really fit into the Preds system.
They were hoping he’d be the next Sergei Kostitsyn in the bargain bin, but he wasn’t defensively responsible enough to get enough playing time to do anything offensively. But his only goal was off of Hillen, so if he was an Islander, maybe he could keep banking pucks off of his team! :)
I would be okay with him.
Of course, I say that having never seen him disappear in an Islander uniform before… so we’ll see.
2011-2012 is looking like another losing season.
That pre-game talk was interesting
Did he say, “But it’s not about them, Parksie?” Wonder what he meant by that. Perhaps he just meant that Pens need to “play their own game.”
"The reader of this sentence exists only while reading me."
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 22, 2011 1:24 PM EST reply actions
Wondered that too
Was Park dozing? Or too enthusiastic about his old team? Or just a random note a monotone coach strikes to keep people’s attention.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
"And, team, it's important that we go out there and...
……play our game. Kind of like Mr. Park is doing on his Gameboy right now. Put that down, Parksie, and pay attention."
Proud to root for the Jets, Mets, and Islanders!!!
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Bart Scott: "I’m sure now there will be something written about how the Jets are back, and we won’t listen to that either, because at the end of the day we know that you guys don’t know what the hell you’re talking about."
by CharlieIsles on Nov 22, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I was tempted last night.
Had a dream that a member of the Nyan Cat Clan invited me to quit being an Isles fan and join them. He said all I had to do was watch this video once a week and blog about it. (Here.)
But I resisted.
"The reader of this sentence exists only while reading me."
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 22, 2011 1:30 PM EST reply actions
That video
is exactly what goes on in Blake Comeau’s head during games.
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Bart Scott: "I’m sure now there will be something written about how the Jets are back, and we won’t listen to that either, because at the end of the day we know that you guys don’t know what the hell you’re talking about."
by CharlieIsles on Nov 22, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
New Rolston-less Practice Lines! Now we win!
Isles twitter: Moulson-Tavares-Parenteau; Grabner-Nielsen-Okposo; Comeau-Reasoner-Pandolfo; Martin-Bailey-Niederreiter, Ullstrom.
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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 22, 2011 1:33 PM EST reply actions
Crap.
NYIslanders NYIslanders
@
@xchfs Good catch. Rolston is skating on the third line. Error in our tweet. #isles
41 minutes ago
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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 22, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Damn. :(
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Nov 22, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
Isles tweeter should be scratched next game.
Is there anyone available to take his position?
"The reader of this sentence exists only while reading me."
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 22, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
she
As far as I know, the social networking coordinator for the Islanders is Dani Muccio. She’s usually downstairs at the games and as far as I know from talking to her, she does the Twitter, Facebook, and Foursquare stuff for them.
by dunnowhat2type on Nov 22, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
My apologies
Still, a break may help to bring her confidence/focus back to where it should be.
"The reader of this sentence exists only while reading me."
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 23, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Pandolfo is now on the supposed third line? Or is it a demotion in disguise for Comeau?
I like the fourth line much better than the third btw.
Was going to say
the BC-Reasoner-Pandolfo line is really the fourth, no?
Don't make me bring out the Silky.
we apparently have
1 2nd line (MM-JT-PAP – really aren’t a true top line)
1 3rd line (FNGO)
and 2 4th lines
Time to rebuild
After achieving so much success last season, the Islanders picked up the final pieces to the puzzle in the off-season. Unfortunately some all of the new veterans have since made other career plans, so it’s – believe it or not – time to rebuild.
Yes, friends, gone the halcyon days of early October 2011, days of goals and assists. Time to rebuild…
AMac hurt?
@KatieStrangESPN Katie Strang
MacDonald and Jurcina not on the ice for #Isles. Eaton, who suffered a sprained MCL during last night’s game, obviously not out there either
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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 22, 2011 1:38 PM EST reply actions
And Jurcina too?
My four-forward even-strength formation idea was just a joke, BTW.
"The reader of this sentence exists only while reading me."
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 22, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Can Hamonic play 60 minutes and both D positions at once?
Give Streit the night off. And spare us from Mottau and Staios.
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Nov 22, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Six weeks for Eaton
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Yuppers
NYIslanders NYIslanders
With Eaton out, Mottau will be back in the lineup. Maintenance days for MacDonald and Jurcina today. #isles
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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 22, 2011 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Maintenance days?
Methinks that AMac is not fully healed yet from last year.
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Bart Scott: "I’m sure now there will be something written about how the Jets are back, and we won’t listen to that either, because at the end of the day we know that you guys don’t know what the hell you’re talking about."
by CharlieIsles on Nov 22, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Cmon...can't we call someone up?
No Sleep 'til....Belmont?
I'm free tomorrow.
I’m in the Bridgeport area.
"The reader of this sentence exists only while reading me."
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 23, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Nov 22, 2011 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They should let Mottau play and call up another forward
Put pressure on the forwards with 3 forward scratches a game. They do not have to travel far from Bridgeport until they go to Chicago on December 2nd, so they will be able to call up a d-man quickly if there is a need.
If Mottau's in the lineup
then there’s a need for a defenseman…
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
What type of coach is Michel Therrien? Player's coach, Taskmaster?
What type is Cappy for that matter? Prob player’s coach.
Please spare me the “shitty coach” comments. Thnx
he isn't from boston
so it’s moot
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Harder on guys
He was the taskmaster the rebuilding Penguins brought in to get them serious after Olczyk was deemed to have lost the early Crosby Pens. If you remember, he got them to the finals but when they struggled the next year they canned him and brought in Bylsma.
He also had a run with the Canadiens, as per tradition for every French-Canadian NHL coach.
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Hope!
@DobberHockey Dobber
Oilers seemed hopeless last year to so many pundits, but then took that big step this season. Isles are next. Mark it!
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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 22, 2011 1:58 PM EST reply actions
they also went with some vets
but smyth still has a little game left in him…
and got 2 overall 1st picks…
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That means
we need one more #1 overall.
Nail actually would be a good complement for JT.
Don't make me bring out the Silky.
You know what the most annoying thing about this is?
Despite the fact that the Oilers had 2 #1s, I felt that the Islanders and Oilers were neck and neck in their rebuilds. Obviously three #5’s overall don’t equal one #1.To see the Islanders take a colossal step backwards while the Oilers play over .500 hockey is incredibly frustrating to watch.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
Is the oilers franchise making money still too while we are in the red?
From what I’ve read they’ve been selling out most to all of their games through a lot to all of this rebuild while we are struggling with attendance and other revenues.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
It's different in Canada.
And there’s nothing to do in Edmonton, unlike Long Island. Look at all the shiny.
2011-2012 is looking like another losing season.
So this means a year till our next winning streak? :-)
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
He also said that
at the beginning of this season
"Matty Mo thinks it's different. He must be extra high today." BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Moulson's response to Isles black jerseys.
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
Ha
I object to this because of the “Oilers took that big step” part. They’ve taken a step, but we’ll see how big.
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Also
How long can Khabibulan continue with a .930 sv% and 1.86 GAA?
"Matty Mo thinks it's different. He must be extra high today." BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Moulson's response to Isles black jerseys.
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still not Columbus
Sure wish we still had Konopka. It is now official — we are doormats!
I don't think so
There were plenty of people who were pretty mad at Snow for letting Konopka go.
And I’m not sure Konopka is a main reason Isles have been so flat. (Or that with him, Isles would be doing much better.)
Also, is it too late to bring Konopka back? Would it cost all that much?
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 22, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
Konopka's isles were a lottery team
He was there for the entire season.
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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 22, 2011 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
I must still be in denial
Konopka is not the missing piece here.
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Nov 22, 2011 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
That's great news!
DiBo is Sim 2.0, and he’ll be called up any day now.
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Nov 22, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Sim 2.0 is a video game.
You can’t fool me!
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 22, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
I thought Reasoner
was Sim 2.0. Wears same # and is similarly slow.
Lol
Say what we want, if our current guys skated with HALF as much hustle as Simmer did, maybe we wouldn’t be so bad off. (Please note I said HUSTLE and not skill.)
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by CharlieIsles on Nov 22, 2011 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
When Zenon's done playing
he should move back to Long Island and open up another vineyard or run for Nassau County executive. He has an awful lot of fans here.
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Konopka
Such a huge piece of November 2010’s overwhelming success.
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Yea man, Konopka
He gets my vote for Nassau County Execitive
by Strong Island Thuggery on Nov 22, 2011 5:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ridiculous Rankings
Rangers 3rd – we aren’t much worse than they are – the Rangers are probably more like 15th
while Boston is probably more like 3rd
and Pittsburgh right now #1
we just played two of the very best teams in the league – they may actually be 1-2
Rangers 3rd – we aren’t much worse than they are
Interesting theory considering their record is, you know, way better.
=d
by AP77 on Nov 22, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll agree with that.
But Isles aren’t as good at their record right now either.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 22, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wrong. The Isles are better than their record. An in-depth look at the advanced stats shows them to be about
25th in the league or thereabouts. That’s not good either but its better than their record.
I meant more their current state than how they played their first 18 games.
Isles would be the underdog going up against anyone (except perhaps CLB) the way their skaters are playing, in front of their 3rd string goalie, tomorrow.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 23, 2011 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
I mean . . . those are just assertions though. That’s your impression? Ok. But the numbers don’t bear it out so far. They’ve got a great keeper, a pretty good offense, and an ok defense.
=d
am trying to project to where things will be by season end
that’s all that’s really important, not random ‘where things are now’ assessments which really don’t matter at all
except in our case, where we are clearly in the small handful of uncompetitive teams – much as our talent level should have put us on the bubble
our ambition now is to be a bubble team- in two years
If were in the basement by season's end and they're a bubble team
Then they’re better than us… whoa!
by sayvillelax94 on Nov 22, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
Very true
But a good team gets lucky more often than a shitty one
by sayvillelax94 on Nov 22, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
Now seems as good a time as any to talk a bit about how the rankings are put together...
The Rangers are likely in that position because their victories – no matter how lucky they were or how much the other team outplayed them – have been mostly against decent and good teams. So while your opinion is that there are plenty of teams that would beat the Rangers in a best-of-seven series (and you could likely be correct), the performance of the Rangers based solely on the final scores of every game this year, has them in 3rd overall at the moment.
If one or two of those teams that they beat go on losing streaks, the Rangers’ ranking would likely drop, because those wins become less impressive. And of course, if the Rangers themselves lose a game or two, that would do the same.
Also, I should mention that every loss is treated the same (with the exception of overtime or shootout losses, which give you half credit). So the Rangers’ early season loss to our team (29th overall at the moment) doesn’t hurt them any more than if they lost to San Jose.
The calculated power rankings are simply an attempt to have a consistent and unbiased approach to comparing teams. Other rankings (which I call opinion polls) have their place, as well. It’s probably best to look at both.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Nov 22, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not criticizing the rankings - its just a curious thing about hockey that even strength shot differential
is a better predictor of future Win-Loss record than the current Win-Loss record. But it is true and the even strength shot numbers don’t portend good things ahead for the Rangers.
The correlation is still only about 45%. That’s the one thing about it, it’s the best predictor, but it’s still not terribly strong. Yes, there’s a good chance doom is coming, but there are things like Lundqvist doing a Thomas impersonation that can throw everything for a loop. (I don’t believe they’re going to continue to defy logic, just merely pointing out that it’s not a certainty they won’t)
They have the whole “team PDO is out of this world” thing right now, but if you dig a little deeper, it’s really the defensemen that are converting crazy amounts of shots right now. Very few of the forwards are even at their normal shooting percentage, let alone guys like Dubinsky and Anisimov that are considerably below. I don’t know what to make of that, but it would strike me as something is going to come back around, whether it’s converting more on the PP (which doesn’t get shots either), or something else.
While I still think they decline, I’ll be curious to see what happens in this stretch of games against good possession teams (FLA, PIT, WSH).
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by George E. Ays on Nov 23, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
We can say that, but when they saunter into the playoffs while we're picking #1...
it still won’t be true.
2011-2012 is looking like another losing season.
Rangers have the best points % of any team in the East
23 points in 17 games is just ahead of Penguins for top points % in the East.
Out West, SJ and Min are slightly better than Rangers, going by points %. (25 in 18 and 27 in 20, respectively.)
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 22, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Rangers
have a weak defense, a spotty offense, and an aging keeper
it isn’t (or shouldn’t) only be about current records, 15 games in
Rangers will not be in the vicinity of Pens or Bruins
we just played the Rangers in a dead even game
gifted to them by Josh
says more about them than us apparently
Great...
Let’s measure other teams’ success by how they beat the Islanders.
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Maybe the LHH Power Rankings can add a SOVOI component
Strength of Victory Over Isles. Help separate the men from the boys.
Success was survival and, kid, it still is
by IslesFanInNJ on Nov 22, 2011 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
The Rangers get outplayed all the time. Do you really think they'll keep winning that way? How about a bet then?
I bet you that Montreal or NJ or Florida get more points in the rest of the season than the Rangers do.
Your choice of team. Pick who you think is the worst of the lot. I'm pretty confident that all 3 will
have better records than the Rangers for the remainder of the season.
Are you directing this at me?
I wasn’t necessarily advocating one way or another re: the Rangers. But really, no one can really predict where these teams will be at the end of the year, and I don’t watch enough games by the opposition to even say whether they’ve been getting outplayed or not. Nor do I want to – I have a big enough headache watching my own team get outplayed.
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by IslesFanInNJ on Nov 22, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
That seems like very long ago now.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 22, 2011 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, that was my point.
Seems like much longer ago.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 23, 2011 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
Their aging keeper
is what’s making them so much “better” than what they are. His save % has been insane.
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Reference: EV puck possession vs. save %
Here. Keep in mind the power rankings have to do with record/results, and possession data/save% has to do with components.
They’re different ways of looking at what’s happened so far. Wins are awesome, but can come when you play great or crappy. I hope we can all agree that good play, over the long haul, produces more wins.
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You're kidding right?
Lundqvist is 29, Brodeur is around 40. But yeah, 29 is ancient. I’m sorry for misinterpreting your wisdom.
by sayvillelax94 on Nov 22, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
aging not ancient. 29 is not young for a hockey player - although goalies seem to age better than skaters
at least thats my impression – I have no data on that
That's what I was referring to
29 is young for a goalie, especially since many don’t even take off until around age 27 or 28.
by sayvillelax94 on Nov 22, 2011 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously what the hell?
It’s not like he’s going to age from 29 to 37 by April.
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by Keith Quinn on Nov 22, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
The way I see it
This is an example of things going from one extreme directly to the other. It seems like in some conversations guys are either “young” or “old”- but in reality there are many years in between where a guy is neither. Lundqvist is in the relatively early stages of no longer being “young”- but that certainly does not make him “old”!
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by TheMetalChick on Nov 22, 2011 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Well said – and it seems like he hasn’t really declined. Having said that his save% so far this year (.933) is .010 better than his career best and .014 better than his overall career number so it doesn’t seem likely to continue. Biron’s numbers are even more above any reasonable expectations.
Looking just at ES (the better predictor), he’s .009 above his last couple seasons (he was around .929-.930, playing at .939 right now).
It’s high, but it’s not the Thomas level of unbelievability (.947). Guys on Henrik’s level, Vokoun, Luongo, Hiller, have been capable of .935 seasons.
Again, it’s not that I actually believe he’ll do it, but there is some history that says it’s a possibiliyy, and guys, especially goalies, certainly get ‘lucky’ / run hot for entire seasons.
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by George E. Ays on Nov 23, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
and on Defensemen
if we don’t bring someone up, and instead give significant minutes to a combo like Mottau-Staios, some of us should show up to the next game with bags over our heads
talent wise we have some pieces – but the lack of commitment to winning by this owner is now the clear difference
Funny how things have gone full circle
A year ago, Gordon was in the middle of a funk and the team was so tense and tight they were crapping Tiffany cufflinks. Enter Senor Capuano and his laid back approach. Says that he’s going to lighten up the atmosphere…players are clenching their sticks too tightly…have some fun, etc. He turns things around…..
Looks like we might need to fire Cappy 2.0 and hire Cappy beta version….
Are we tanking this season?
I really don’t see how no one has been waived and no other changes have been tried. It really seems like its more than just the players who don’t want to win. I’m really starting to question everything about this organization with how this season has been dealt with.
Constantly building for the future.
Can someone post a postive article?
Doesn’t even need to be about the Islanders since there’s not a whole of positives there. Seriously, the islanders take winter depression to a whole new extreme.
You should've seen her face. It was the exact same look my father gave me when I told him I wanted to be a ventriloquist.
I hear that Sidney Crosby had a great game last night...
oh…
On second thought…
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Crosby played?
Where you hear that?
by barry_hal_oliver_24 on Nov 22, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
A Positive Article for mikefromVA:
Chris Pronger will miss Wednesday’s game due to an illness.
Pronger was also held out of Monday’s contest. He should be considered day-to-day for now.
From Rotoworld.
by barry_hal_oliver_24 on Nov 22, 2011 3:13 PM EST reply actions
Inner Body Injury
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Heck, if I were the Flyers
…I’d sit out Pronger with a bruised finger tomorrow. Why play the old guy?
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 22, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Breaking News
This just in. The Islanders are not a very good team. Film at 11,viewer discretion advised.
If this continues
They should just give more of young guys a shot. How many games into a season do you start to do this. With the stretch of games coming up i feel it could be sooner than later. Can we import the donovan and Ness line and run Streit Staios Amac Hamonic Ness Donovan.
I feel bringing up these guys together could help them gel in the NHL. I think the pairings are what matters and having the trust between D-Men. Sticking Ness or Donovan with a “Jurcina” or “Mottau” i feel would hurt them more than learning from mistakes
this
should have happened already
can’t happen soon enough – get rid of the old guys – all of them – I mean ALL of them – NOW
I dont think it will be that long where enough of their salary will count that the Isles can dump all of them (since Rolston will count regardless)
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by TheMetalChick on Nov 22, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Is this really an issue?
I thought similarly, but other than Rolston, are any of these guys that much above league minimum? Rolston’s salary stays on the books for cap purposes. Mottau and Pandolfo are near league minimum (at least sub-$1M), no? Any kid from BPT won’t be that much of a decrease in cap hit.
Eaton is on IR for the estimate 6 wks, so I don’t include him in the discussion.
by Hey Hanrahan on Nov 22, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Eaton's salry stays on the books for purposes of the floor, would come off for purposes of the ceiling.
If I have my CBA straight.
It is the club's option
It stays on the books unless the Islanders ask for an injury exemption.
At least this isn't one of us?
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FAIL!
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Doormats
Besides a few players, this team lacks heart, pride, talent and direction. And if you dnt have talent, you cnt lack pride, heart, passion. We lack everything.
Im starting to believe Streit wasnt the right man to be named captain.
As a fan, we need a captain to get into the faces of his teammates and call them out, Whether in the locker-room or on the bench.
Im sick to death as a fan defending this rebuild. Everyone of our youngsters took a step-back this year except JT and Martin. I cnt fault Hamonic ,who is being asked to do too much. What happen to MacDonald?
Nevermind the fact we’re sacrificing one of our young goalies to the wolves…..
This team needs a slap in the face, Wheres Patton when you need him?!
Well, Haley may be on the way for slapping
From @KatieStrangESPN:
Capuano said he gave Snow “thoughts on the direction I thought would help us.” Said we’ll see what the roster looks like tmrw vs. PHI
Said he’d like to see #Isles “insert some fire” into their lineup and mentioned “grit” as well. Interpret that however (or whoever) you wis
He did confirm that he provided more than a general idea, rather specific players: “We’ve got to add some grit element to our game.”
…of course then she started talking about “jeggings,” so…
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by Dominik on Nov 22, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The general idea of grit
I guess Cappy should sprinkle some of this in the locker room?
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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 22, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Were these magic grits?
No self-respecting Islander uses instant grit.
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by IslesFanInNJ on Nov 22, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Wait I forgot about "igniting fire"
Fire and grits. I really think Strang was interviewing a local chef that looks like Cappy.
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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 22, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Riddle Me This
(or whoever) you wis
Typo or a secret message that Wishart is getting the call?
we’ll see what the roster looks
See or “C” or even “CC” as in Casey Cizikas? Hm….?
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Did he suggest that certain old and mushy players should find some new lodgings?
Maybe certain forwards who keep their teeth in a glass of Polident at night?
2011-2012 is looking like another losing season.
Moulson needs a slap...
…with a dose of “wake the hell up”. Save the comedy routine for a winning atmosphere.
Lets hope Haley gets the call.
If they call up a forward I'm going to be beyond dumbfounded.
How can you go with 6 D-Men, committing yourself to playing Mottau every day and forcing yourself to scratch even one more forward per game!?
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would be criminal
no reason they can’t do both
Cut Rolston would help create more space for
Cizikas, Ness – those guys should be next in line
Colliton has some heart as well – bye bye Blakey
I think that is exactly what they should do
Put pressure on the forwards that are scoring less than 2 goals a game and not getting their noses dirty.
I commented this up higher, but they don’t travel very far until they go to Chicago on 12/2, so they would have the ability to get a d-man from Bridgeport quickly if the need comes up.
Never mind power rankings
what’s really galling is that the Panthers are near the top of the conference. Who’s laughing now, I wonder?
Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.
Bet you it won't last. Fringe team.
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I would imagine
way more than only 4 teams would be interested in Okposo.
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by Fabtraption on Nov 22, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I also think
that trading Okposo would be a HUGE, colossal mistake of Milburian proportions.
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by Fabtraption on Nov 22, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
What if the price was right?
Stainer of mountaintops.
by Chairman Meow on Nov 22, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Buy one get one?
Stainer of mountaintops.
by Chairman Meow on Nov 22, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
To be honest, I have no idea if the trade would be good.
But I saw the a Ranger – Jets game, and that guy was a monster, so why not.
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by Chairman Meow on Nov 22, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Kyle Swap.
Now that Turris is signed for a couple of years, would a Kyle swap make sense? I propose this only because I like making a trade solely based on the first names of the players involved. What would be the pros and cons and who would win that trade?
Sorry for the ddoouubbllee post, meant to respond here.
Not knowing Turris very well, I say
Screw that.
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Steve Staois for Steve Stamkos?
I’m on board with that.
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by Fabtraption on Nov 22, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mike Richards for Mike Mottau?
Im in.
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by TheMetalChick on Nov 22, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
Let's not upset the guy who just bought the Mottau jersey.
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 23, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
I don't think I've ever seen anyone win the $10,000
Do you think it is rigged?
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 23, 2011 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
Who would sign up to take his place?
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by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 23, 2011 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
We get a new GM
By promoting Snow to the new position of President and senior officer for hockey operations involving mgmt of ALL the concession stands. Then he can trade our present hot dog and beer brands for cheaper ones that will taste better, be cheaper and get us full and drunk enough quicker so we don’t notice what’s happening on ice.
Kyle swap, Turris for Okposo?
Now that Turris is signed for a couple of years, would a Kyle swap make sense? I propose this only because I like making a trade solely based on the first names of the players involved. What would be the pros and cons and who would win that trade?
Haley recalled
Per Staple. Now we get to bitch about how national writers misspell his first name.
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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 22, 2011 5:24 PM EST reply actions
Report: Gutless, Classless Islanders Goon It Up Before Taking on Pronger-less Flyers
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by PGI on Nov 22, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
one more step in the right direction
now bring up a Defenseman (or make a trade) before tomorrow’s game
No more spots on the active roster
Someone would have to go down or on waivers to bring up a defenseman.
Where would Micheaeaeal Haley even play?
They already have an extra forward.
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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 22, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Check that -- two extra forwards.
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by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 22, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
That's right 15 forwards for 12 spots
Now let’s see if anyone is hungry.
If they wanted to do this they probably wanted to wait til after the Pens game. Seriously.
If they had called him up, the entire story would have been about us GOONING IT UP and how we want to kill Crosby instead of them ignoring us and not mentioning us other than putting the word “hapless” in before our name all the time.
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by TheMetalChick on Nov 22, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
NOTHING can distract from the CrosbyHockeyLeague
entire story would have been about us GOONING IT UP
That would have taken about 15 seconds away from the All Sidney – All the time coverage; far too much time to devote to the Islanders. If Garth and company are running this team based on public opinion we are in worse shape than I thought.
If we had called up "thugs"?
They would have freaked out- it would have been like Crosby is New Orleans and they were watching a hurricane headed their way. Everything would have been ‘what if this horrible thing destroys our beautiful beloved icon’ type talk.
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by TheMetalChick on Nov 23, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Im not saying public opinion...
Im talking about the fact that, as stupid as it would have been, the NHL may very well have seen it as a hostile and truly antagonistic thing to do.
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by TheMetalChick on Nov 23, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
Still not sure of Pierre McGuire even knew who Sidney was playing against on Monday.
From the coverage I received on Versus, the only viewpoint that McGuire could give me is that it was warm and dark, and smelled like Sidney Crosby’s lunch and dinner from where his head was.
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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.
The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.
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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.
Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.
1981-82
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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.
A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.
1982-83
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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.
Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.
