Islanders Bits/NHL Power Rankings: Someone Thinks Goaltending is the Problem
by Dominik on Nov 2, 2011 6:30 AM EDT
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We have our regular power rankings and media survey -- including one hilarious misobservation -- below the jump, but first some Islanders and NHL links:
- Staple's Newsday piece talks about the five-gamem winless streak, stresses difference from last year. Includes a Cappy bit on Brian Rolston.
- Kerry Fraser on the awful OT call the other night.
- You can bid on the 92-93 ceremony jerseys from the other night. {Puts wallet in a drawer, throws away key.}
- Fornabaio's quickie on Trevor Gillies had a Mark Katic update that made me feel sorry all over again for Katic.
- Bridgeport playing the Whale this morning. [live audio here]
- Chris Botta talks to John Tavares's agent, Pat Brisson.
- Special "Get Connected" ticket nights for da fans who use da social mediar.
- More on the reffing Saturday: From a blind fan, no less.
- FanShot: Dreaming of a Wang-Wolkoff partnership. It does have a wawa ring to it.
- License Plates: Rock on.
- FanPost: DP'sKnees' "Guide for Angry Nassau Voters," which should, ahem, stir some debate.
NHL Links
- Nino's conditioning stint poses a roster issue for the Isles (he stays on the 23-man even while in Bridgeport). Out West, Quisp finds a clever way the Kings sort of have a 24-man roster.
- It's funny, John Tortorella really let Joe Thornton have it the morning after Thornton called the Rangers "soft," but I actually preferred the original response from that night, which was a simple Tortorellan "Wonderful."
- This sounds like a cool tool, though it's not working for me (but apparently works for everyone else): A shot location search tool for every player over the last three seasons. [via PPP]
- Not Exactly News Dept.: "The Sabres signed Ville Leino to be one of their top two centers. It hasn't worked out so far, with just one goal and one assist in 10 games." (Where are the random anonymous drive-by folk who lambast me for saying the Isles don't need to give out Leino contracts?)
- The importance of D-Zone Communication. Respect.
- Although I cherish our Patrick Division roots, I support the division of Pennsylvania.
NHL Media Power Rankings
See if you can spot the guy not really paying attention:
| Outlet | Rank | Last Week | Their Commentary |
| CBSSports | 26 | 16 |
What has turned into a five-game losing streak continued late last week in Pittsburgh when the Islanders watched a 2-0 third-period lead slip away. Making things even more complicated, Rick DiPietro was forced to make his debut this season in the shootout, coming off the bench when Evgeni Nabokov had to exit after overtime with a "lower body injury." |
| THN (Proteau) |
23 | 18 |
After winning three of their first four games, Isles have dropped their past five. |
| ESPN (Burnside) |
19 | 6 | The Isles are winless in their past five games, and the offense, supposed to be the team's strength, has chipped in just seven goals during the slide. The three-headed goaltending monster continues to plague the team. |
| CBC | 28 | 18 | The Islanders' 3-1-0 start lasted about as long as Kim Kardashian's wedding to Kris Humphries. New York is winless in five games, although they earned points in shootouts. The offence has dried up, big time. In those five games, the Isles haven't scored more than two goals in any of those contests. |
| TSN (Cullen) |
17 | 11 | The Isles have dropped five straight, though they came away with points in the last two against Pittsburgh and San Jose. There was a time when it looked like C Josh Bailey and LW/RW Blake Comeau would be able to provide complementary offence, but neither has registered a point this season. |
| Fox | 28 | 14 | The offensive depth after the Molson-Tavares-Parenteau line hasn’t materialized. The Isles have seven goals in their last five games, all losses (0-3-2). |
| Average |
23.5 |
16 | Who TF are Kim Kardashian and Kris Humphries?! Kindly replace with quotes from '80s comedies. |
Other Notes:
The Islanders have given up 2.48 goals per game, good for eighth-best in the league so far. Uhh, so goaltending plague, eh?
Quite the (deserved) drop, although we could've told you even during the wins their play left something to be desired. The Sharks OT loss was better than a couple of regulation wins. Note that Cullen's is the only "calculated" ranking in the above. The rest are true media "impressions" prone to narrative from simple wins and losses.
Real Power Rankings
That said, while it's still way too early for a lot of data, Mike's table has the Islanders in the same vicinity. Not many teams below them, but one of them is tomorrow night's opponent (meanwhile, how long do you suppose Edmonton stays up in the clouds?):
| W | L | OTL | Pts | Win Pct | PWR | ||
| 1 | Washington | 7 | 2 | 0 | 14 | 0.778 | 2310 |
| 2 | Edmonton | 7 | 2 | 2 | 16 | 0.727 | 2249 |
| 3 | Pittsburgh | 8 | 3 | 2 | 18 | 0.692 | 2010 |
| 4 | Los Angeles | 6 | 3 | 2 | 14 | 0.636 | 1933 |
| 5 | Dallas | 8 | 3 | 0 | 16 | 0.727 | 1878 |
| 6 | Chicago | 6 | 2 | 2 | 14 | 0.700 | 1868 |
| 7 | Toronto | 7 | 3 | 1 | 15 | 0.682 | 1771 |
| 8 | San Jose | 6 | 3 | 0 | 12 | 0.667 | 1765 |
| 9 | Phoenix | 5 | 3 | 2 | 12 | 0.600 | 1763 |
| 10 | Colorado | 7 | 4 | 0 | 14 | 0.636 | 1697 |
| 11 | Philadelphia | 6 | 4 | 1 | 13 | 0.591 | 1683 |
| 12 | Minnesota | 4 | 3 | 3 | 11 | 0.550 | 1660 |
| 13 | Buffalo | 6 | 4 | 0 | 12 | 0.600 | 1650 |
| 14 | Florida | 6 | 4 | 0 | 12 | 0.600 | 1593 |
| 15 | New Jersey | 4 | 4 | 1 | 9 | 0.500 | 1577 |
| 16 | Vancouver | 5 | 5 | 1 | 11 | 0.500 | 1566 |
| 17 | Tampa Bay | 5 | 4 | 2 | 12 | 0.545 | 1560 |
| 18 | Ottawa | 7 | 5 | 0 | 14 | 0.583 | 1488 |
| 19 | Anaheim | 5 | 5 | 1 | 11 | 0.500 | 1482 |
| 20 | Calgary | 4 | 4 | 1 | 9 | 0.500 | 1468 |
| 21 | Detroit | 5 | 4 | 0 | 10 | 0.556 | 1458 |
| 22 | Carolina | 4 | 4 | 3 | 11 | 0.500 | 1397 |
| 23 | NY Rangers | 3 | 3 | 3 | 9 | 0.500 | 1394 |
| 24 | Nashville | 5 | 4 | 1 | 11 | 0.550 | 1372 |
| 25 | St. Louis | 5 | 6 | 0 | 10 | 0.455 | 1326 |
| 26 | NY Islanders | 3 | 4 | 2 | 8 | 0.444 | 1317 |
| 27 | Montreal | 4 | 5 | 2 | 10 | 0.455 | 1130 |
| 28 | Winnipeg | 3 | 6 | 1 | 7 | 0.350 | 1103 |
| 29 | Boston | 3 | 7 | 0 | 6 | 0.300 | 989 |
| 30 | Columbus | 2 | 9 | 1 | 5 | 0.208 | 606 |
Our weekly "real" power rankings are courtesy of our own ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles (who is the one you'll find tirelessly compiling FIG picks in the game thread), conceived and delivers these week after week. They reflect games through Sunday.
Explanation of how he does it is in the original post. If you have any questions about it, leave them in comments and he'll likely answer. For reference, last week's post is here.
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, and the offense, supposed to be the team’s strength, has chipped in just seven goals during the slide. The three-headed goaltending monster continues to plague the team.
Obviously, goaltending has everything to do with a struggling offense.
Give credit to Burnside, he actually made a good, logical point about the Islanders. Then it was as if he said “I need to take a totally illogical shot at the team, lets spin the wheel and see what comes up” 3 headed goalie was in between a DP Joke and backup goalie to GM joke.
"Failing upwards! How come I can’t ever seem to do that?" - AP77 on Strang's ESPN Job
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
Was thinking the same
“Awww…you were doing so good! Shoulda quit while you were ahead!”
And I don’t rule out the monster creating problems in the future, but it certainly hasn’t yet. At all.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
LeBrun
probably wrote the first part.
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The one thing about this team ...
I WAS NOT worried about is their ability to score enough, and I’m still not. We know from last year the talent is there and Nino will add more. I don’t buy at all this collective, team-wide scoring slump theory. I think these guys just haven’t yet fully settled in yet. And even though they failed to bury a bunch of chances against San Jose there was a lot of fluidity and sharpness. A prolonged lack of scoring might influence a defense to try and help the offense by taking more chances etc. and this team’s D corps clearly isn’t on that level, so that would be a problem. But I don’t see this getting to that point. The timing of this particular 4 day layoff between games wasn’t good, but I still look for the scoring to come around in the next couple of games, and I still have a good feeling overall about the team.
by dose on Nov 2, 2011 8:08 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
There is still a little problem with this team's scoring
and that is, WHEN it happens. Last year during the slump, they were awful awful. Between the Feb 11th game and the end of March (24 games), they scored 83 goals which was a 3.46 average. This was 36% of their goals in 29% of their games. Consider that they had games where they scored 9,7,6,5,5,5 between those dates where they averaged 7.4 gpg for a total of 37 of that 83 (.45%) of those goals in 25% of those 24 games.
They just need consistency/balance. Everybody is either going or not going at the same time.
Another thing to not is that 24 games between Feb 11th (short month) and March 31st seems like a lot…maybe they need to play more often or with less schedule breaks like we’re seeing now.
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They just need
to pretend all these games are meaningless, then the goals will come.
Tavares is Tavares.
by afrosupreme on Nov 2, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The layoff sucks
And they have fed their own offensive problems in many ways. But yeah, I’m not thinking the team will stay at 2.00 GF/GP.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
5 losses in a row...
…now the Red Wings have lost that many. Bet they’re not panicked in Motown.
by Chin Ho on Nov 2, 2011 8:16 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
anyone else
loving the fact the team has twice now gotten 5 days off between games… really helps them gel and get a flow going (feel free to repost in sarcasm font)
These comments crawl up from the depths of the deepest Chasm of Saar
They played Saturday and ...
they play tomorrow. Am I nuts or is that 4 days off rather than 5?
i think in terms of pitchers
the staff goes every 5th day…
These comments crawl up from the depths of the deepest Chasm of Saar
Does it really matter? The point is the same. This is already the second time with a big break. And it is five days between games (Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wed, Thursday)
120 hours between start times= 5 days between games.
Can't stop eyeing that Vukota jersey...
It’s for a good cause and shit. Right?
by Les Beaver on Nov 2, 2011 9:19 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
That disappointed me too
At least these are closer. If they had to walk out in the original RBK pipe-crazy ones, I might’ve had to turn my eyes away.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Fraser at least has the decency to point out that throwing Frans out was an even bigger injustice.
You give a BS call, faceoff in the defensive zone and then kick out the center who has to put his stick down second? Thorton’s stick wasn’t even on the ice when Frans was tossed. Immature officiating all around.
by Hockey1919 on Nov 2, 2011 9:25 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
But he did ignore a major contention
Why was the penalty called after one official motioned that it deflected?
Also, why can’t off-ice officials be consulted for a call like this, if they have a clear view? (There is at least one off-ice official who has some authority, right?)
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 2, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He is in the refereeing fraternity after all.
I don’t think outside of the “war” room in Torornto there is any off-ice offical that has any authority and can’t even think who that official may be. It was a bad call, by a marginal officiating crew, compounded by an officials ego. AS long as the Islanders are in teh bottomo of the standings, they are getting the B team to officiate their games. Add to the fact it was an inter-conference game and again you are more likely not getting a decent crew.
These guys were bad, period. They blew the icing call on the Sharks when DiPi played it and I’m still not sure how the faceoff winds up deep in the Islander zone when the Sharks refused to play a high stick as well. I’ve never seen such a puzzled bunch of officials go off the rails so badly in the final 25 minutes of a game in my life.
...and now I'm sick all over again
I didn’t realize that Nielsen, the only forward on the ice, got tossed from the circle. Christ, that’s even worse. Basically, the Sharks were handed the game-winner on a silver platter.
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by Pretty Good Idiot on Nov 2, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Frans doesn't exactly seem
like a faceoff whiz anyway
Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.
as opposed to Staios???
only Nicholas Cage would be a worse choice for a Face/Off… oh wait…
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by bob l on Nov 2, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Ha!
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Nov 2, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
What they said
Frans was the most qualified guy on the ice at the time. Whatever his percentage is, it’s got to be better than Staios’.
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by Pretty Good Idiot on Nov 2, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
To be fair, Staois won the faceoff
He’s now leading the team with 100% faceoff percentage
author of "57 Easy Ways to Score More Than 2 Goals a Game"
by Chris McNally on Nov 2, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
STAIOS FOR THE SELKE!
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by Pretty Good Idiot on Nov 2, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Thornton cheats of faceoffs anyway. Every announcer during the playoffs said how he never comes to a full stopping motion before a faceoff, he cheats.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Winless in 5
But if they find a way to beat Winnipeg and get to OT against the Caps (for instance), they are all of a sudden on a 4-game point streak.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 2, 2011 9:44 AM EDT reply actions
Funny....
…. Last year the calculated power rankings argued that the Isles were a better team than most were giving credit for. Now the calcs are more pessimistic than the writers.
They like us! They really like us!
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Nov 2, 2011 9:47 AM EDT reply actions
"Although I cherish our Patrick Division roots, I support the division of Pennsylvania."
i can’t see a real rivalry betwen Pitt and Philly. Yeah, it’s the same state, but they are on opposite sides of the state. It’s like saying the Isles (or Rangers) have a rivalry with Buffalo because we’re all from New York.
Rivalries happen because of games, not geography
To be honest, I don’t know how heated the rivalry between the Penguins and Flyers is. But new rivalries will always be made based on games, usually in the playoffs. As soon as the Avalanche unpacked in Denver, Detroit and Colorado started a huge rivalry because they kept meeting in nasty playoff series (paging Claude Lemeiux) which led to nasty regular season games. I’ve never really seen the Devils as an Islanders “rival” since, well, the Devils have been very good over the last 15 or so year and the Islanders haven’t. Now, had they met in a few more playoff series that got ugly, it’d probably be a different story.
Whoever moves will find new teams to hate.
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by Pretty Good Idiot on Nov 2, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
They have years of hatred
More than geographic reasons. That rivalry usually sells well.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Not Exactly News Dept.: “The Sabres signed Ville Leino to be one of their top two centers. It hasn’t worked out so far, with just one goal and one assist in 10 games.” (Where are the random anonymous drive-by folk who lambast me for saying the Isles don’t need to give out Leino contracts?)
As a (somewhat unconvincing) counterpoint, the money-cannon approach to team management seems to be working out for Florida so far.
Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.
But the cap hits will prevent them from going forward.
I think they bought themselves a level of repsectability, but the contracts are really all on the high end and if they ever improve enough to being a reall competitor it will limit what they can do.
I have a feeling he either finds out what to do or is the next Redden.
Buffalo’s new owner wants to win and is willing to spend money, I could definitely see Leino being Redden if he can’t perform this whole year.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Isles and free agents
The Isles don’t need to go out there and sign every marquee free agent that hits the market (i.e. Gaborik, Richards, Drury, Gomez), then hope for a bad GM to trade for that bad contract.
What the Isles do need however is a proven skilled scorer that can play on a top or 2nd line to give them a little more jump. I hope we have that in the system somewhere, because i don’t see free agents lining up at Mr. Wang’s door unfortunately.
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previous post
Was more to what you had quoted. i think the isles are going about this the right way. it’s just a matter of Garth deciding when this team is one player away from taking the next step. Unfortunately, I think we are more than one player away at this point. Better than being about 20 players away like we were 4 years ago.
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Between Strome, Nino, Kabanov, Petrov, Lee, and Nelson
There should be at least one or two top-6 impact players.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 2, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Kabanov
Two goals for KK last night, he is 3-2-5 in four games.
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 2, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Here are his stats...are they traking all "shots" with that 2nd S column? That's cool..also a +6
http://lhjmq.leaguestat.com/en/stats/gamebygame.php?id=1467
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Bailey
Was a superstar at the sub-NHL level as well. Not saying there is no chance KK will be nasty, but his stats won’t impress me until they translate to the NHL.
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Also, KK regular season stats last yr in juniors weren't great, if I recall.
It’s encouraging to see him put up these stats from the get-go.
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 2, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not opposed to UFAs
I just think you have to be realistic about it, and you have to know when an overpay has too many diminishing returns. Ehrhoff even at the Isles offer would’ve been an overpay (and obviously he got more from Buffalo), but I was amenable to one of those instant upgrades. Leino’s contract, not so much. (And to be clear, I know Florida got better, Buffalo got a little better, but you have to pick your spots in the long-term plan.)
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Setoguchi Goal
Check out the Setoguchi OT goal from last night. (The replay is on NHL.com) Koivu does nearly the same thing that Okposo did (last game?). Was there a difference between the two hits? Perhaps KO caught the guy with his elbow and Koivu did not? Very similar though. If I was a Detriot fan, I’d be pissed too. Was Koivu within playing distance of the puck? Was Okposo?
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 2, 2011 10:45 AM EDT reply actions
Yes, I agree
But how different was it from what Koivu did? Or, if Kyle didn’t hit the guy with his elbow, would it still be a penalty? Was Kyle’s thought process wrong, or was the execution bad?
We see that same kind of hit all the time (“protecting the puck”), but the Okposo and Koivu hits were both a bit extreme, I thought.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 2, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
BPT lineup notes (Daytime AHL rivalry with the Whale)
Michael Fornabaio
fornabaioctp Michael Fornabaio
Niederreiter with Ullstrom and Colliton.
16 minutes ago
ScottyHockey Scotty Hockey
Funny moment, Zuke talking trash to Gillies during warmups.
17 minutes ago
Thats Zuccarello I presume
fornabaioctp Michael Fornabaio
Looks like Poulin vs. Talbot to start the bright-n-early game. Kids filing in.
26 minutes ago
TheSoundTigers Sound Tigers
Trevor Gillies will be on the fourth line left wing with Tomas Marcinko and Tony Romano. Niederreiter making AHL and 2011-12 debut. #BST
6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
Full lineups from Fornabrio http://blog.connpost.com/fornabaio/kids-game/7552/
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Sound Tigers (w Nino) vs. Whale audio feed
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 2, 2011 11:14 AM EDT reply actions
Wallace with the Hat Trick!!
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 2, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Is the Radio free on there?
Can’t seem to get it on my Mac or the PC, even after logging in on the Mac. I click the “play” button under Radio tab and nothing happens.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 2, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm on a PC, it came right on once I found it.
It should say “In Progress” with a play arrow next to it. It’s free, yes.
And the guy talking now has a really annoying fake radio voice and it’s driving me a little batty, so you’re not missing anything at the moment. In between 1st and 2nd periods.
I'm watching it
I hate to say this, but they are as fun to watch as the Islanders right now.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 2, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Thank you!
Got it with Firefox.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 2, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Isles practice and some other relavant things
BrettCyrgalis Brett Cyrgalis
Nabokov back on ice for #Isles practice
2 minutes ago
TheSoundTigers Sound Tigers
Gillies just completed his first shift, throwing the body around. Nino back out for his 2nd he had a deflection on net in his first shift
7 minutes ago
TheAHL AmericanHockeyLeague
2009 first-rounder Tim Erixon also making his #AHL debut this morning ahllive.com
8 minutes ago
TheSoundTigers Sound Tigers
RT @philgpbp: Feel free to tweet us your questions as you listen or watch today’s @thesoundtigers vs. @ctwhale game here at ahllive.com
18 minutes ago
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Nino interview coming up
http://ahl.neulion.com/ahl/
In top corner, click “radio” then click on the “in progress” arrow.
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nice interview from nino
really looking to see him lace up the skates for the isles soon
screw homework, its all about islanders hockey
Well Nino, one period down in the AHL, you have no points. Why are you such a bust, and why does Garth Snow suck so much at drafting, and life in general?
Well, Chris, I…I don’t really know. How many points did Josh Bailey have in his first period in the AHL?
Zero. See?
Oh…uhhh….shit….
Exactly.
by Les Beaver on Nov 2, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
way ot but a legit question for a youngish isles fan
i bought gamecenter for this season so i can watch isles games when im at college, seeing as i can watch classic isles games in nhl vault, what games would any of you suggest watching
screw homework, its all about islanders hockey
by DarthDoyle on Nov 2, 2011 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Shawn Bates Penalty shot is a good one.
I would go backwards, start with some of the more recent games. 93 playoffs were good too.
ive watched that game so many times...thats the only playoff memory i truly have
they have the 93 conference finals vs the canadiens, just about all of the dynasty finals games, and then some random ones sprawled throughout, they have DP’s first win, luongo’s first win, and then games where the isles lose
screw homework, its all about islanders hockey
Not sure how far the archives go back
but game 5 against the pens in 82. Crasy 3d period/OT comeback on the way to the third cup.
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 2, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah
If that one’s in there, definitely watch that.
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The Easter Epic
If you have all day…
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It always amazes me how to puck just went in without any player actually shooting it.
Spooky. It being Easter, I guess it’s kinda apropos though.
by Les Beaver on Nov 2, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Blasphemy
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i know
thankfully i have nothing to do today since im not only done wiht classes for the day as of an hour ago, but i dont have any assignments due until after thanksgiving…i think this means some higher being wants me to watch islander games all day
screw homework, its all about islanders hockey
Easily my most memorable Isles game
The cup years aren’t very vivid for me, but I remember a lot of that game.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 2, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
the only thing that sucked about being a 90's child
was missing the isles dynasty years. im hoping that i can have those great memories of going to the coliseum during the playoffs to watch the isles hoist the cup within a few years
screw homework, its all about islanders hockey
Amen brother
Though it sounds like I am a bit older (alive for exactly 1 cup)…all I have is that playoff run in 93 and that near playoff run in 2002. Still wear #77 when I can’t get 83 :)
I am old enough to remember the final two vividly
And young enough to be crushed in 84 and 85 by the successive realizations that 1) They don’t win every year, and 2) They don’t even make the final every year.
It’s been Benjamin Button since.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Your revelations have always been my norm
What’s it like to have lived before the “oh crap, here we go again” era?
I would say that both revelations have fully sunk in by now.
And I’m a very slow learner.
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 2, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm old enough to remember them
It’s just because tv was different back then, I rarely got a chance to watch them.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 2, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
My god was it ever
Sportschannel, USA … lots of listening to crackling radio. I think there was a season in the ’80s when just 8 or 9 Blues games were on local TV. Probably saw more Isles games those years.
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Now some nights
I sit at home, wtach the Isles on tv, and watch the Ice Flyers online and listen to the Amerks, all in the same day or at the same time.
Life really sucks.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 3, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
list of games on nhl vault as of 11/2/11
1980-games 1 and 6 of SCF
1981-game 5 SCF
1982-conference final game 4, SCF games 1 and 4
1983-Conference final 6, SCF game 4
1984-SCF game 5
1993- Conference final game 3,5 november 6 against Hartford Whalers
1994-Isles-Rags playoff QF series
1996-Isles vs Kings October 4th
1999- Luongo’s first win and shutout, Chara’s first goal
2000-February 8th-Canes vs Isles
2001-DiPietro’s first game and first win
2004- Isles vs Bolts playoff series
2005- Isles vs Sens- Heatly extends scoring streak for sens
2006- Isles vs Sabres (Sabres tie longest winning streak from beginning of season), Isles vs Devils (Brodeur’s 86th shutout), Isles vs Blue Jackets (Mike Sillinger becomes first player to score 10 goals for 9 different teams)
2007- DP’s 100th win, Geurin’s Hat Trick, Isles vs Panthers (Olli Jokinen registers 6 points in the game), Isles vs Flyers (Malone scores hat trick scoring in beginning of each period for Flyers)
thats the entire list of games available to watch that involves the Islanders
screw homework, its all about islanders hockey
DO NOT WATCH!
Unless for historical background purposes.
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1994-Isles-Rags playoff QF series
Please don’t watch this
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by Pretty Good Idiot on Nov 2, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That still makes me want to throw up
When I close my eyes I can still hear faint chants of “hex-tall”. Vomit.
by SchneiderDiricov on Nov 2, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd start
with all the Stanley Cup winners. They’re missing the better ones from 93 (namely Games 6 and 7 vs the Pens).
Also, if they have anything from Leafs/Kings in 93 watch that. That series still stands out for me as one of the best I’ve ever seen.
Tavares is Tavares.
by afrosupreme on Nov 2, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Amen
Watched that while stuck in the hospital, unable to watch my Isles succumb to the Habs. Gilmour, Clark, Anderson, Andreychuk, Gill, Macoun vs Gretzky, Robitaille, Kurri, Granato, McSorely, Rob Blake…what a series, possibly the best I’ve seen as well.
"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)
Back when
you could see a solid 50% of NHL playoff games on ESPN without them needing three weeks to play a series.
Tavares is Tavares.
wait
So this: 2006 – Isles vs Blue Jackets (Mike Sillinger becomes first player to score 10 goals for 9 different teams)
Is available to watch but Bossy’s 50-in-50 isn’t? No offense to Mike Sillinger, but…c’mon
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by Pretty Good Idiot on Nov 2, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
You know what
It’s probably why the Easter Epic is missing too, because those games have been released on Islanders DVD Sets
"Failing upwards! How come I can’t ever seem to do that?" - AP77 on Strang's ESPN Job
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
I think that's part of it
They probably avoid most games that can be bought on DVDs.
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Good points
Either that or Mike Sillinger greased some palms over at the NHL head office.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
by Pretty Good Idiot on Nov 2, 2011 7:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I can't for the life of me remember who scored that goal.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
by Fabtraption on Nov 2, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Goal
I think that the puck magically redirected via some kind of divine intervention, headed towards the net and in. It was an Easter miracle.
by SchneiderDiricov on Nov 2, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jesus obviously came back from the dead just to score that goal.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
by Fabtraption on Nov 2, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oooo
Russostrib Michael Russo
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Haha
Good thing this isn’t China. You’d never know which player they’re talking about.
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by Dominik on Nov 2, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Mr.Chin has been put on waivers in the chinese ping pong league."
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Interesting here
Tavares watching the Sound Tigers game
On the board there are “forecheck responsibilities”.
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by Keith Quinn on Nov 2, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That's pretty cool
And those are some fugly sneakers he’s got, but at least they’re blue and orange and not blue and white.
Above JT's head is an "NHL" document, it appears
…with a few paragraphs and a list. Who knows how old that is, though.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 2, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
part of the problem on Offense
is our problem on Defense – we are too slow, which doesn’t help
on Offense, Line 1 is okay – though they haven’t bene lights out by any means, aside from 2-3 games – they need to be more consistent – Line 2 also needs to be more consistent – Line 3 needs a revamp – Line 4 is the only one that is fine as is
and IR Amac untli he gets his speed back – call up de Haan and see what he has to offer
Streit-Staios
de Haan – Hamonic
Eaton-Jurcina
that would give us a bit more speed too
and I hope we are heading for 4 lines something like
Moulson-JT-Nino/KO
Grabner-Nielsen-Nino/KO
Dibo-Cizikas-Rolston/PAP
Martin-Reasoner-Pandolfo
starting to wonder how much more time we have for Rolston, Comeau or Bailey – if any
Patience
Lets get another 7-10 games down the road to re-think things. Bailey and Comeau played their best game last game. To think Dibo (23), Cizikis(20) and Nino(19) with NO NHL experience are going to be significant upgrades over a still only 22 Bailey and 25 Comeau is crazy. Patience.
Plague?
Maybe he meant to say “plaque”. It’s undertandable, after all C.Montgomery Burns made the same error in an episode of the Simpsons (ep: And Maggie Makes Three).
by SchneiderDiricov on Nov 2, 2011 12:47 PM EDT reply actions
There is an obvious solution to the Pitt-Philly situation.
Send both of them to the other division.
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Nov 2, 2011 1:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Ullstrom just scored
Tied it up at 13:17. Tigers were down 3-1.
Wallace has the other two. He has 6 pts in his last 3 games.
(Info according to radio announcer.)
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 2, 2011 1:17 PM EDT reply actions
well sound tigers just won
tim wallace had a hat trick
screw homework, its all about islanders hockey
Tim Wallace with the OT winner!
Hat trick for wallace
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 2, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This after Tigers killed off a 4-on-3 Wishart high sticking penalty.
WooHoo!
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 2, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
That was a sweet goal.
good game.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 2, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yo String, where Wallace at?
/obligatory
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by Dominik on Nov 2, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Couldn't avoid it ;)
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Wallace with a hatty.
Gets the 3rd in OT to win it.
by Les Beaver on Nov 2, 2011 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Wow the sound effects are horrendous at the webster bank arena are horrendous
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 2, 2011 1:34 PM EDT reply actions
"I just put it on the net and it went in"
JT may have some interviewing competition from Wallace.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 2, 2011 1:34 PM EDT reply actions
No one holds a candle to Cliche Mashin' Yashin for interviews
“Yeah, ya know..uh… I shoot puck and uh…team play hard..and uh… lucky bounce, ya know? Good team effort”
Isn't that a Monty Python skit?
not the one Dom posted last week tho
Don't know how this works
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This actually follows the conersation better
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2011/11/02/twitter_gage_moulson/
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SOG Question
Per isles’ twitter:
For @TheSoundTigers today Nino hit two posts, had 1 SOG, 2 PIM, and was even. Here are the complete stats. nyisl.es/7gWqb #Isles #bst
A hit post doesn’t count as an SOG I guess?
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 2, 2011 2:41 PM EDT reply actions
nope
never has
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if they did
we’d have to go back and credit Kyle with another 150 shots ;-)
These comments crawl up from the depths of the deepest Chasm of Saar
LOL!
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Nov 2, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Check out Cizikas's pass (while falling down) to Wallace on the second goal
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 2, 2011 6:32 PM EDT reply actions
Man
I am developing a serious crush on this guy.
Tavares is Tavares.
by afrosupreme on Nov 2, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
cool
something we totally agree on :)
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Nov 2, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
ditto
and there’s VERY little room in that mancrush space taken by Clint Eastwood, Bryan Trottier and Han Solo (NOT Harry Ford the actor)
/puffs chest
"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)
Awesome
Great hands and shots by Wallace also great goal by Ullstrom. So close for Nino. But judging on the goals scored the D needs some work.
I love how he
Basically puts his arm out and says: “This is how it’s gonna go: I’m going to hold you off, shelter the puck, and pass to my man Wallace over there at a time of my choosing.”
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Dude!
I was wondering what’s up with that?!
Basically it means Trevor is a man of faith.
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