Islanders Bits: Nino the Mario Brother
by Dominik on Nov 1, 2011 6:30 AM EDT
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The talk of yesterday was of Nino Niederreiter's looming return [Post | Newsday | Our LHH thread] -- a move that would seem to be imminent with the waiving of Trevor Gillies.
That doesn't necessarily mean Nino goes Thursday against the Atlantapeg Threts, but all signs point to very soon. With John Tavares getting a rest day (along with Andrew MacDonald, in the last big gap between games for a while), Nino skated with Matt Moulson and P.A. Parenteau -- which is funny considering the Isles keep auditioning Nino to bump Parenteau off that line.
Gillies wasn't the only enforcer put on waivers Monday. D.J. King requested as much from the Caps.
Note: Staple's write-up says Gillies was initially put on waivers before the first game of the season, but I don't think that's right, or if it is it was not recorded that way. Maybe that's where he was headed before a timely groin injury put him on IR though.
The Jets, by the way, blew a late tie, then tied it back up and took the shootout bonus point from the Panthers last night. The Jets were outshot 42-31 through 65 minutes.
We did this last month, so let's do it again: What record to you expect from the Isles in November? And what would qualify as a success?
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This Paragraph Is Longer than the Story It Links To: "The Post has been told Islanders’ general manager Garth Snow has been coy concerning the possibility of claiming the winger on waivers." About what hypothetical topic is Snow not coy? Weird leap from that to the fetching headline "Isles May Block Avery Return." For the record: Columbus, New Jersey, "may" also block the return.
- Fornabaio will have his Bridgeport chat today at 1:30 p.m. EDT.
- The Islanders' European guys really got into this crazy North American tradition of Halloween. Assuming nobody went as a sexy nurse.
- Your Islanders first line really got into this thing. Awesome.
- (Speaking of Halloween: Wow is it not a stretch for Dion Phrankeneuf to dress as Frankenstein. I mean there's nothing to add. Green paint actually makes him look less so.)
- The Sharks finally lost on their road trip, so Joe Thornton called the Rangers "soft" and said the Sharks should have won. Apparently this means they are "softer" than the Isles.
- Andy Sutton's suspension made room for Alex Plante, the last remnant of the platter of disappointment that was the Ryan Smyth trade.
- Chris Botta with Kevin Weekes on what to look for in Rick DiPietro's play and the three-way crease crowd.
- A very long lament about offense, mostly: Capellini: 20 Years Later, Islanders Still In Search Of An Offense " CBS New York
- SBN-NY: On disappointment with the Atlantic's three metro teams.
- This is the only time I will ever acknowledge "The Bachelorette": New York Islanders - 1-on-1 with J.P. Rosenbaum
- Flyers restrict, revise, revise their policy on media access to Ilya Bryzgalov. Flyers media lose their head about it but ... the story becomes about them rather than the question fans are asking.
- Your day in Shanabanning and non-Shanabanning: Mike Fisher shares his suspension-related confusion | ProHockeyTalk
- And: Kerry Fraser: Did Konopka deserve punishment for hit on Anisimov?
- The always-enjoyable 30 Thoughts, with interesting re-alignment elaboration.
- Finally, it's impolite to laugh. But this does remind me of how many nights Avs fans were obsessed with Duchene vs. JT. In contrast, the Avs are gaga over Landeskog.
Well, that's plenty for one morning then.
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Nino thursday?
Man, can’t believe I’m flying to NYC tomorrow!
Hope I’m not tired from the trip when I take the train to Hempstead thursday.
Would be fun to see Nino play!
by Constant Despise of Dale Hunter on Nov 1, 2011 6:45 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Well, iffy for Nino Thursday
But you never know.
Have fun on your trip!
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Yay costumes
The mario bros is clever, although it confused me last night. Plus, its funny to see Moulson go all out for Halloween. He just seems that the type of person to really get into the occasion.
All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.
Moulson
One of the guys from the Blue Orange Army (the singing chanting guys in the top of section 329) was wearing a full set of hockey gear on Saturday with his Moulson jersey and said he was dressed up as Moulson with “better hair.” Seems like it’s an inside joke with Moulson, during warm ups, he climbed up on a chair as Matt skated by so he could see the whole set of gear he had on and got a great reaction out of him.
by dunnowhat2type on Nov 1, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
From 30 Thoughts
When you’re a little thin on the blueline, two things can save you: great goaltending and players who stick to the system. We can all see what Nikolai Khabibulin’s doing, but Edmonton is really getting that second thing. It doesn’t hurt, one scout said, that this is also a team committed to working hard.
Damn it, that should be us! But yea, I’m not sure we’re getting that second thing (on offense at least).
Tavares is Tavares.
I gotta say, I hate Avery now
But I think I could like him. He’s not a bad hockey player…better than our current 3rd liners.
Pros:
Good hockey player.
Brings that “grit”.
Distracts from losing
Can make Dibo the most effective pest in history.
Definitely re-sparks that “rivalry”
Cheap
Cons:
Will probably get some of our guys beat up
Can “infect” a young locker room.
Could set the stage for drastic Ranger money action on our RFA/UFA pieces.
It’s intriguing though.
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
Website:Lighthouse HockeyTwitter: @KeithLHHockey
by Keith Quinn on Nov 1, 2011 8:34 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
You gotta get back on your meds...
… if you mutter that on the train you’d be in bellvue before you can say, “ride the stache”.
Here’s to a speedy recovery!
LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA
I hear you
But listen, any guy whose response to guys running around on your skill players is “tell him to cut the shut or I’m gonna effing kill Girioux” can’t be all bad…or can he…
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Nov 1, 2011 9:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Point is
I want somebody who can play a little who thinks the same way about JT
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Nov 1, 2011 9:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The only person Sean Avery thinks about...
…is SEAN AVERY.
Physical play should not be a REACTION, it needs to be an ACTION. Matt Martin doesn’t crush somebody into the boards because they hit JT, he does it because he can. That needs to run through the whole team. FINISH YOUR CHECKS.
I don’t want Kyle Okposo to be skating around saying, “If you hit Grabs I’ll kill Zach Parise”… no Kyle needs to take out his checks when he has the opportunity.
I think that’s something missing from the coaching system… not just the Islanders, but part of the philosophy of the league.
How many kids that don’t have that reputiation from juniors, play that way in the NHL?
I think it’s coming around on the Island though. Jurcina had a reputation as a q-tip… but he’s been standing forwards up at the blue line. Macdonald certainly did not have a physical side, but his progression might just be a matter of confidence.
One of the projects, I’m sure, is getting Comeau to play 20 minutes of PHYSICAL HOCKEY… and when was the last time you saw Okposo deliver a bone crusher… does he get a pass because he’s good at winning one on ones along the boards?
Reactions are for when they do something blatently out of line… and it has been done… there needs to be an IMMEDIATE REACTION to make it stop… but in those situations you have to be willing to pay the price.
LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA
His history is too long for me to trust that would be worth it
His relapses into me-first behavior are too frequent. I don’t trust a guy whose been in the league 10 years but whose learning curve has been so incredibly shallow.
If he gets fed up and woe-is-me on Broadway, I can’t imagine what he’d be like when things go bad on Long Island.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Sean Avery ...
is a rat. I wouldn’t want him anywhere near this team. And I’d bet the team feels that way too. He’s made enemies everwhere he’s played. That guy is the antithesis of addition by subtraction. He’s subtraction by addition, and the only reason he SEEMED to help the vermine Rangers for a while a couple of years ago is that they sucked and had no other players with any balls, so he was the focal point. The guy does have way better skills than Trevor Gillies and I’d still take Gillies over him in a heartbeat.
by dose on Nov 1, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The best way for Sean Avery to help the Islanders is for him to remain a Ranger.
Let them deal with the constant circus. He was a decent third to second line player a few seasons ago, but his effectiveness has been way down and is no longer an upgrade over anyone on the Island. He scored 3 goals last season, if his name were Comeau or Bailey he would be killed for that type of production with the Islanders.
If he gets claimed by the Islanders, the best part
is that P.A. Parenteau can finally go to all those clubs Avery’s been keeping him out of.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
by Fabtraption on Nov 1, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
No its not
Its not intriguing at all.
Avery is just a huge distraction on any team he plays for.
Cons:
Offensive skills are now deteriorating (check his stats).
Teammates hate him ( no one on the Ranger bench ever speaks with him)
Coaches hate him
Refs hate him and will continue to make marginal calls against him.
The game becomes a cartoon when he plays (stick in front of a goalies face)
Pros:
Absolutely none.
If Sean Avery is the answer, you have asked the wrong question.
I had to write that on my napkin...
If Sean Avery is the answer, you have asked the wrong question.
I know I’ve heard it before, but thanks for reminding me… cause I’m going to use it later today.
LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA
by JPinVA on Nov 1, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Enjoy
Its all yours…and take the napkin. How’s Virginia these days?
Yes indeed
Well said. I also like this one from a famous “pundit” on life’s foibles.
When Avery was removed from the Ranger’s lineup, they could have said:
“Outside of the improvement, we’ll never know the difference.”
Groucho Marx
Slow news day for Larry Brooks?
That sound like a made up rumour just for the sake of stirring up the pot.
Why would Snow claim him? He’s not exactly pals with him.
From Islanders Point Blank:
WHEN AVERY ATTACKS: Confrontation with Snow, racial taunts at Nolan showed the dark side
Don't you understand?!?!
The Post [Brooksie] HAS BEEN TOLD SNOW IS COY.
.
In all seriousness, I felt shame even linking to it.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Snow being coy is how the Yashin rumours probably start each offseason
“I’m always looking for any options to improve the team” is Snow’s version of “I pick things up and put them down.” Ask him if he’s willing to suit up and back up the three headed monster and his answer will be the same.
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 1, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as Snow realizes
he’s 5th behind the Sumo wrestler and the 3-headed monster. Might as well throw Gamrah and Rodan into that mix.
It's funny, I was thinking of bringing in Avery for similar reasons and depth.
The man never takes a shift off, that’s something you hope the kids would see from him playing. Sure, he’s hit some bumps and he has some sideshow antics, but the man is incredibly gritty, an effective pest, has 3rd line skills, and plays his heart out.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
by OzzyFan on Nov 1, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
November record
Another tough month. Lots of BOS, some WAS, VAN and BUF… and enough divisional games to make a difference. Plus they wrapped our first three in four around Thanksgiving.
Which is good, I think, because I might be able to do both of the home and home vs the Devs.
I hope they can be above .500 (7-4-2), but 6-5-1 would be acceptable. If they can’t beat these teams in November it’s gonna be hard to make the playoffs… very hard.This is the month to make up for last year’s debacle.
LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA
At a certain point you have to beat the good teams
As fans, I don’t think we can expect this team to make the playoffs, let alone have a chance at any kind of run if they can’t hold their own with the big teams.
I for one am hopeful that the mediocre start so far will mean that November will be a stronger month. I’d be more worried if they were red hot so far like Edmonton. You don’t want to peak too early, but as long as you can stay in the hunt through the early going you leave yourself poised to make a run later.
I’d be happy with 1 or 2 games above .500 at this point, as long as they continue to improve their play.
by SchneiderDiricov on Nov 1, 2011 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Player by Player expectations...
With the exception of the Tavares line, the Reasoner line, Hamonic and the goalies, I’d expect some real improvement in terms of goal production.
I don’t think we’ll get much more out of Rolston, unless you replace him, or replace Capuano with Jacques Lemaire.
FNGO has been creating opportunities at a pretty good clip, they should start to break out soon.
Bailey and Comeau could go scoreless for the entire season… but I don’t think that will happen. If you throw 8 goals up between those two in November that would be 8 goals the team didn’t have in October. That line should be pumpin in around 8-12 per month.
Streit and Macdonald will hopefully progress in the right direction… but with recovering players do we really know for sure?
That leaves Staios, Jurcina, Eaton and Nino.
Staios: I can’t see him giving more than he has. Hopefully they will have somebody like Wishart or deHaan ready when the crash happens.
Jurcina has looked good, and GREAT as a third pair defenseman. If he becomes the second pair partner with Streit, and can handle that… then we’ll have something good for sure.
Eaton has already improved by lightening the baggage he’s had to carry the first month of the season. Eaton can be a very servicable 3rd pair defender.
Nino… does he earn more than 9 games? That will be the biggest question in November.
You also have the BPT situation, and how it affects the Islanders… though, with the exception of Wishart, I don’t expect to see any of those guys unless injuries happen.
LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA
Agree
But I think a November like last year would be a disaster. Too many bubble teams are playing much better than us: Fla, Habs{lately]. Leafs, and Bos will find themselves.
Yes
Very hard to recovere from a winless month. That must be avoided. I don’t think I can take watching hockey like that again this year.
by SchneiderDiricov on Nov 1, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I think FnGo has to get better, and you’re right… when the secondary scoring kicks in, that should help some as long as the D and Goaltending hold.
Loving Jurcina on top D pairing with Streit, but only if they can replace him on the 3rd pairing with someone who can prove reliable and durable to play with Eaton – who I like a 3rd pairting D-man. I like the way Staios plays, but I’d have to imagine he will not have enough in the tank to keep it up all season.
I worry about about Joake Baimeau, but I like their play the last couple of games, and can see some pucks start to bounce in for them. I know Rolston was supposed to help bring some stability to that line, but in my view, the only thing he’s bringing to the table is being consistently a non-factor. Still has the shot, but it’s like he’s got lead in his skates or something. I think they need someone a little stronger or more engergetic/dynamic to play with those guys.
by SchneiderDiricov on Nov 1, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Joake Baimeau
I would suggest the more meaningful Joke Blame-oh.
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 1, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Or something more simple
I think “Blosh” sorta sums it up.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
by PGI on Nov 1, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yea
I don’t think it’s that tough of a month (WAS, @VAN, @BOS, @PIT are the only ones that jump out), but it is a month full of games that we need to win now to be relevant in March. A poor showing this month could pretty much end it early again.
Tavares is Tavares.
I may be wrong
but this team has a penchant for beating good teams, losing to crappy teams, and also getting obliterated by Philly. So far that trend has continued: Recently they “played up” to Pittsburgh and San Jose, and played down to Florida twice. A split with inconsistent (mediocre?) Tampa and uninspired play against a mediocre Wild team…anyways, what I’m saying is that the tougher the lineup (esp. western conference powerhouses) the better this team’s record may end up being. Too lazy to look to see if I’m wrong >;-)
"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)
by Bryan2112 on Nov 1, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
Hovering at or slightly above 10-12 points would be a positive imo. Keeps them in the hunt. Mostly would just like to see strong even strength play, although I contend the forwards are playing more responsibly 5 on 5 to limit the exposure of the defense. Hopefully Jurcina’s return starts to show an effect, and they can open things up a bit.
And agree w/ the Edmonton lament. You’re right, that should be us. And it hasn’t been. And that falls on Jack.
Good piece by Fraser on Konopka
The referees must have gotten confused and thought he was still playing for the Islanders when they gave him that major/game misconduct.
by SchneiderDiricov on Nov 1, 2011 9:27 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I was going to post that. LOL
Sad, but true.
"If the bell needs to be answered, we've got the guys to answer it." "If they want to start something, that's fine."- Trevor Gillies
Can we stop with the Atlantapeg?
They moved and they’re the Winnipeg Jets now. It’s over.
You only figure 8 once.
But They still have all the thrashers players
Along with their records.
"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992
by Zhora on Nov 1, 2011 10:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's a transition phase
Helps me remember who’s been where, and who’s still in Phoenix.
They’ve been confusing enough with “first time Jets are X since 1995” and “first X in franchise history” type stuff…
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Yes that criss-crossing is confusing
It’s like they have stolen the Coyotes franchise history and claimed it as their own. It’s one thing if you’re trying to draw the line from a non-existent franchise that once was (ie Ottawa), but it’s a little strange when you’re claiming the history of a franchise that still exists albeit in another city.
by SchneiderDiricov on Nov 1, 2011 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Histories
If (hopefully when) Phoenix moves to Quebec, will they keep their Winnipeg history, or give that “back” to the current Jets and adopt the Nordiques’ history?
Ha!
That would sow wonderful confusion. Have to resurrect Orwell to write a hockey book, “2012.”
I totally get that the Jets would prefer PHX had been resolved sooner and made for a tidier resurrection, but it just didn’t happen that way. I wonder if this is one reason the owners were reluctant to revive that name until the fan essentially forced their hand.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
As an aside
Was such a letdown to watch the Rags-Jets game the other night and not see the Jets in their old uni’s…it made their reincarnation (not quite a resurrection) a little less awesome.
I think if PHO moves to Quebec they take the Avalanche records with them.
The Avalanche take the Devils records and the Devils revert to the Kansas City Scouts.
by Hockey1919 on Nov 1, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Adding further
It’s kind of the crazy roommate immitating her rommate and trying to steal their life (ala Single White Female or that new one with Minka Kelly).
by SchneiderDiricov on Nov 1, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
THE CLEVELAND BROWNS
It’s so sad when all you get is the name… and the city… and continue the history of no success before the original team left… and the original team goes out and wins a super bowl with a new name.
Why couldn’t they just expand in Indy… Baltimore would have finally found success… Cleveland would have found success… and Indianapolis would be the Cleveland Browns.
Karma would be the Colts not winning another game this decade.
LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA
by JPinVA on Nov 1, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It's funny
that’s what worries me about if the Isles end up moving. Sort of like what happened to Quebec when they lost the Nords. They had some down seasons, drafted/traded well, and right when they were on the cusp of breaking out and rewarding the fans for sticking through the down times, they left and when on to win the cup twice in Colorado.
by SchneiderDiricov on Nov 1, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
at lesst we have the eighties...
well… that’s the benefit of being an OLD Islander fan.
LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA
Quebec fans bit it hard
Three last-place seasons in a row, and the payoff is in Denver, with your hated rival’s star goaltender!
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Isles move to KC
Acquire Lundqvist after Torts keeps him in for a 10 goal shelling and then win the Cup…I would spontaneously combust.
by Dorfer on Nov 1, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is old
but I hadn’t seen it yet, so maybe others haven’t either, and it’s just too hilarious to miss.
Tavares is Tavares.
by afrosupreme on Nov 1, 2011 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Holy cow that's hilarious
Like playing with your prey before you kill it.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I would have loved to
see what 45 minutes of makeup and a Mad Hatter costume would have dine for Matty MO.
STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Nov 1, 2011 10:21 AM EDT reply actions
PA
I think PA has been one of the better Islanders during this young season. Brings energy, good offensive skills, and much better work along the boards than I ever would have thought.
He may actually help the 2nd or 3rd line offensively, so Nino on the first may turn out OK.
But its not because PA has been a disappointment. Far from it.
I do think P.A. could probably help any line
The way he’s playing anyway, he’s a very useful all-around player.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I like what PAP brings
He’s a guy I think can be put on any line to give them a little jump. Definitely gets his nose dirty, something the JoCo line doesn’t do enough of.
NewIsles
Hi all,
This is my first post, but have been reading the site for the past year since i realized that Garth was actually trying to build something good. Great work Dom with the site! I go back to ‘76-77 Chico and the upcoming Hall of Famer Isles. It was a great run ’77-84. My Father was a Ranger fan, I became an Islander fan at the age of 7. It’s been a tough road, but it was nice to see the ’93 team recognized. Lets hope we no longer have to go another year without a playoff series win.
As for the front office, I think Wang and Garth are doing a good job. I’ve always thought Wang meant well, but he listened too much to idiot Milbury who ran the organization into the ground. Garth is turning out to be a good GM IMO….yes, he has unfinished business, but he’s trying to do it the right way IMO.
As for the team — Well, the 3 big question marks at this point are Comeau, Bailey and Okposo. The first two are mind-numbing at times. Okposo hasn’t been the same since “the hit” but I still feel he’s getting too much grief from many here on this site. I don’t think anyone mentioned his pretty feed to Grabs for a goal in the last game…he’s shown signs of turning it around and I still feel he’ll become a consistent 20/35/55 player on a great second line.
I agree with many, the eval. is needed more with Dipietro and Nobokov. As I see it fast forwarding 2 months, Montoya becomes our 1, Dipietro our 2, and Nobokov becomes a chip to deal for a draft pick or a top 4 d-man (packaged with perhaps Comea or Bailey and late pick). I like Nobokov, and it’s good to see him come to his senses, but he is 36ish. Some contender will need him later this season. It was a smart move by Garth to get him. We have depth coming up in the minors. I like Poulin. We need a top 4-dman, but defense has NOT been our problem so far. We also have reinforcements in the minors. I hope to see many of them in the next couple months. Hope to catch a couple Bridgeport games in Binghamton and Syracuse —I live b/w the two cities.
I’d put Nino on the 3rd line with an eye towards working him in on the top line and dropping PAP to third line. For now though, PAP has earned the right to stay on the top line. Well, really long post, sorry. Lets get a win Thursday! Go Isles!
by NewIsles on Nov 1, 2011 10:45 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Welcome
Thanks for joining!
I go back to ‘76-77 Chico and the upcoming Hall of Famer Isles. It was a great run ’77-84. My Father was a Ranger fan, I became an Islander fan at the age of 7.Fate, sweet fate. Did DFS intervene on your father to make sure you had a proper childhood?
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
by Dominik on Nov 1, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks.
“Did DFS intervene on your father to make sure you had a proper childhood?”
You could say that. I figured I had joined him with rooting for his teams, I needed to break rank and go with the opposing NY team. Besides, the early Isles were loads of fun to watch….much better than the Rags…..still more fun to watch than the Rags.
Welcome
Similar story here… except I had no parental guidance in matters of hockey, perverse or otherwise.
If “the hit” is still affecting young Mr Okposo somebody must remind him that you run TO the finish line, not AWAY from the starting gate. He can havea long productive career if he gets back on the horse… and faces his fears.
But that’s all speculative, he wasn’t all that aggressive before the hit… he was just more productive. Whatever the cause, the results won’t come until he starts being more aggressive… at least finish your checks with some effort… if the only thing you hit consistantly are posts, you’re not going very far in the NHL.
LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA
Thanks again.
Well, dad was much more of a baseball, football, b-ball fan than hockey, so I didn’t have much guidance either. The Isles were the shit back then. Agreed on KO. He was a tad more aggressive, and surely more productive. He still seems to be a 50-60pt man to me. He shows effort, just needs a little more of an edge. He’s still only 23. Still shows a lot more than Bailey (Mr great for 8 games at beginning last year), and Mr. Comeau (Mr. love to score gaols when team is either up 4-1 or down 4-1.)
Bailey
Oddly enough, when he’s THE MAN, he’s DA MAN!
At the beginning of the year last eyar JT got hurt and they were still line shuffling. He was getting top line minutes and cranking out points like Oscar Mayer cranks out bologna.
In BPT he was the shit… and he made Rhett Rakhshani look like Ziggy Palfy as well.
As soon as it was apparent that he would be relegated to a secondary role, he regressed to the point of being almost insignificant.
Again… all speculation. But Josh needs to start being self aware, and carving out the player that he eventually wants to be…. the clock is ticking.
LighthouseHockey: We saw this coming!
@JPinVA
He shows flashes of greatness from time to time
but only when he plays with some assertiveness and confidence. Maybe he needs a hockey montage to the song “You’re the best around” from Karate Kid before every game to get him up for the challenge. If Daniel LaRusso can beat the Cobra Kai’s one by one, surely JB can rack up a few points here and there. He just has to believe that he’s the best!
by SchneiderDiricov on Nov 1, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
This meme will not die around here. The meme being that Bailey’s couple of nice games at the beginning of last season represents some transcendent level of Bailey’s True Talent instead of a couple of nice games.
You know who also had a couple of nice games from time to time? Jeff Tambellini. And when I say “nice,” I mean he actually scored more than Bailey did during his “great” run.
Flashes of greatness? Hardly. Maybe flashes of AHL greatness. That means nothing though.
Even with all the frustration, Bailey has still already done more than Jeff Tambellini ever accomplished in an NHL season.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Nov 1, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Sigh
Tambellini was 22-25 as an Islander.
Tambellini was a shoot-first winger.
Tambellini went through the same debate, as did Michael Grabner in Vancouver, and Michael Frolik in Florida.
My god, people bash Bailey constantly “around here.” Just because others bring up his best moments as a “time to time” high point doesn’t mean there is this prevailing meme that six nice games represented his true, and great, talent. It means they still wonder if the now-22-year-old can be a decent NHL hockey player someday.
This is what happens with young players possessing 50/50 talent and frustration.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Sigh indeed
Disagree, I think the prevailing view is that the first few games of last season is the True Bailey.
But setting that aside, 50/50 talent?!! Whatever you are drinking this morning, please share.
After typing that, I realized that you might have meant equal parts talent and frustration rather than 50g, 50a talent.
Yes.
But 50 GOALS WOULD BE SO COOL!!!1
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
by Dominik on Nov 1, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I want nothing less than 50 goals in 50 games from Bailey.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 1, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
If he ever pulls that off
AP should offer to have Tattoo Lou’s ink a giant Josh Bailey mural on his back.
AP, what say you?
A Tavares mural tattoo?
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I think you look at it through a
“Baily sucks” x 50 lens. [search function is only retrieving back to 2011, mind you]. So anyone entertaining potential Bailey becomes “He was great those six games, why can’t he just do that every game?”
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Hmm, I’m surprised only four hits even when just looking at 2011. I’m either not doing the job I thought I was or the search algorithm is busted.
Perhaps it is just my bias — although, really, I haven’t been piling on Bailey (yet) this season and have even defended him in lukewarm fashion — but it seems to me that Bailey’s first few games from last season are brought up and discussed in totally disproportionate fashion to their actual significance.
Totally agree
Showing something for 6 games a year ago is just NOT enough to say that was the “true Bailey” IMO.
To me it's shorthand for "when Bailey plays well"
There have been other moments, randomly scattered throughout his now OMG-200+ game career.
Those games were in a mostly first-line role, with power play time, with production between him and Comeau (!). Even then though, the whole team had major flaws in those games obscured by a few wins.
I don’t know what minority ever expected him to be a first-line guy or anywhere close.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Hmm, I’m surprised only four hits even when just looking at 2011. I’m either not doing the job I thought I was or the search algorithm is busted.
Actually, I meant to bring this up recently. The search doesn’t seem to go back more than a couple of months. I noticed it a few weeks ago when I was looking for something.
Tavares is Tavares.
Yeah, I noticed it too (finally)
It was driving me crazy for a while, because there were things and phrases that I knew were in the archives but I could not find.
It’s been brought up to support.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
In today's world it's really easy to focus on the negative.
Not That Bailey has wowed us (other than 6 games), but he not been as bad as some want to portray, but he also has not been as consistently good as he should be. I actually like him in many ways over Comeau. I think Bailey does the little things that go unnoticed consistently better than Comeau….and he’s cheaper and 3 years younger.
It’s easy to focus on the negative because there is so much of it to focus on.
Whatever the merits of JB vs. BC, BC has a pretty strong trump card: a 24g season. To wit, a year ago I would never dream of saying anything positive about BC (although his 0g thus far this season makes me want to FIRESNOWANG$@!).
FIRESNOWWANG?
Please, Snow has been very solid, and Wang always well intentioned. Wang’s problem was he didn’t know hockey at all(!), but had the money and heart to want to keep Isles on Island. he handed the keys over to idiot Milbury…. Milbury then changed plans every other week, thus consistently being caught in a failed suspended state of youth movement and bringing in vets. Problem was, he drafted poorly, never gave the youngsters a good chance, and then thought he could get Vets of equal value to come play on Island. At least Garth has stuck to a plan by stockpiling young talent like we did in ‘74-75. We just need to develop them. It takes time. If he fails in 2-3 years, which i really don’t think he’s going too, then we can say, “FireSnowWang”. Lets hope the teams can get some positive momentum in the next 1-2 years so people see keeping Isles on the Island is worth it.
I think that FIRESNOWANG$@!) was meant to be sarcastic
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"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
by PGI on Nov 1, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Link and joke FAIL
should be a link to www.islanderspointblank.com.
Internet comedy is hard.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
Swing and a miss
That was a pretty good one too. That was a low-80s fastball over the plate.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
Yeah...
but he was trying to go the other way with it to advance the runner… instead of jacking it out of the park.
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@JPinVA
If he's trying to jack it out of the park
then he’s got some pretty impressive skills there.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
My lawyer recommends
that I refrain from any insinuation of jacking anything out of the park.
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
It comes with the territory. I expect some ribbing. I'll dish some out at times.
I might be NOOBZ here, will have to learn the ropes some, but not that many go back to ‘76. It’s good to see so many posting here that didn’t become Isles fans until AFTER their glory days.
Point taken. Thanks.
I’ll catch up quickly. :-)
by NewIsles on Nov 1, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We also need
Some kind of signature tag to add to the end of a comment that is composed while drinking.
=d or something.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Well crap
I was hoping someone who was more up on da innernetz skillz would have a better or more widely accepted icon. Although I do see a tongue their calling for another drink.
Where is the standards committee?!
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
the committee has arrived
i think being a college student who spends around 6 hours a day spent on reddit i might be able to come up for an icon for drinking, just give me some time
screw homework, its all about islanders hockey
Can we get a poll as to whether
that glass is half empty or half full?
I like...(@_@)
(_)
Described as “bug eyed or drunk” That’s better than the half full glass because usually I’d have to represent all the bullets…
\~/ \/\/ \/\/\/\/\/.. and I can’t count after
\/\/\/ so the inaccuracy of it all will just drive me to drink more.
AND I SEE NOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN FOILED BY THE SARCASM DEMON… CRAP!
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@JPinVA
I guess the proper denotation is
\/\/\/\/
But really, asking a drunk to pull that off on the keyboard is a bit much.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Oh nice, the SBN auto-italic got me
Supposed to be some form of:
\-/\-/\-/\-/
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
This just looks like a weird face emoticon.
Like a guy trying to lick his nose. Or….maybe he’s so drunk that he’s trying to lick his nose…?
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
I think it works okay
That’s pretty much the expression on my face while I’m waiting for the bartender to finish pouring my beer.
by SchneiderDiricov on Nov 1, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kinda what I was thinking of
But there is room for options here.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I agree to some degree...
But here’s where you’re wrong… by a long shot.
Tambellini was drafted at 19… after his freshamn year of college.
Then he got two more years of NCAA hockey, and a year in the AHL.
I’m not saying that the Islanders got a “ready” product, but he also had an opportunity in 2008-09 to show that he was far more advanced than Josh…
and…
Tambellini(24): 65/7-8-15
Bailey(19): 68/7-18-25
Bailey’s 2009-10 was 78/16-19-35 (+5)… on a shitty team, with John Tavares getting ALL of the soft center minutes.
Tambellini couldn’t win a consistent spot on that 2009-10 team because of his invisibilty on defense. He tried, god knows he tried, but he is still the only PROFESSIONAL hockey player I’ve ever seen that took the worst of every hit he dished out.
Bailey is having trouble finding the NEXT level… he is even regressing to some extent… but Tambellini never got to the wrung that Bailey STARTED AT.
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@JPinVA
Right, I’m not saying that Tambellini > Bailey. Just that if you go by 3-4 game stints, there were a few where Tambellini scored a bunch of goals as well (and he was a nice SO piece).
I guess all I’m saying is: let’s not draw too much from the first few games of last season re: Bailey.
2010-11(first 6)
seemed to be the manifestation of a solid 2009-11 for a second year guy that was “rushed”.
So when he regressed last year, it wasn’t that he regressed from that incredible small sample success… it was a regression from a steady 2009-10.
My point was that when Josh was given responsibility in the past he ran with it. He doesn’t do quite as well from the shadows. After Renaud’s passing he took that Spitfire team on his shoulders. Not only did he almost triple his point production, but he had a +54 turnaround in his PM Rating.
I’m not saying the Isles should give him Nielsen’s job, but if he can earn a spot that carries second line minutes and some PP time he’s gonna be okay… the key is earning it.
And you know what… he may be doing that… just in a subtle, do what the coach says, kind of way. I can’t harp on this enough… scoring 2 goals per game is not good… but giving up 2 goals a game is OUTSTANDING. When they start finishing the goal differential is going to explode in their favor, and the playoff race will begin.
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@JPinVA
that was the magic bailey.
But if a guy can play like THAT… if you remember, it was like he grew 4 inches and gained 30lbs over the summer… he has it inside him somewhere.
But, like you alluded to, there are a lot of guys that have that in them… but somewhere along the line they shit it out… and nobody wants to seaarch through the turds.
Our fear is that Bailey shit it out. Our hope is that there have been a sequence of events (injury, coaching change, line shuffling) that been factors in his regression. These are things he has to resolve within himself because NONE of them should affect the performance of a PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE to the extent where he can not perform at a level to which he is capable. So the most important factor in that equation is YOUTH.
If he grows out of it he can be one helluva player. I just wish he could do his growing in the AHL.
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@JPinVA
He really did try
I mean, by the end Tamby tried to hit everything in sight.
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agreed
That’s what makes these two mind-numbing to watch. Bailey just needs to realize he has a significant role on this team, regardless whether it’s with 1st or 3rd lines. Once he realizes that, it shouldn’t make much of a difference where he plays. He should be a consistent 2-way 20/20 guy. Comeau seems to play best when relaxed and game is looser with less pressure (i.e. up or down 4-1). I really liked his last 2 games.
welcome from another fan
unlike you i had parental guidance, my dad raised me to be an Islander fan and i think i became an even bigger one than he ever realized i could be and im hoping to continue the tradition of being an all islander family someday. i agree with some of your points; on Okposo he definitely hasnt been the same since the hit, but with regards to Nabakov, i can actually see him staying for a lot longer than you believe. I think it may actually come down to Montoya and Nabby fighting for #1 spot on this team, on the flip side, if DP returns to the form he had in 06-07 everything can change in a heartbeat
screw homework, its all about islanders hockey
by DarthDoyle on Nov 1, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks. I wish that was the case in some ways, but I just don't see it.
….not with Dipietro’s contract and Nabby being 36 and a potential chip to move for something else.
heres my question
if we were to trade nabby and either bailey or comeau, who would you want to trade him to and who would you want to get in return? we obviously cant trade him to anyone in the atlantic, let alone eastern conference if it looks like we can make the playoffs at the trade deadline? and what if it is nabby who comes out as #1 and is leading us to the playoffs? we cant trade him and then what? do we still trade bailey or comeau and a pick for some top 4 d-man? if we are out of the hunt at the deadline, which i hope isnt the case, then fine go ahead and trade nabby but still the question remains, to who and for whom
screw homework, its all about islanders hockey
Don't know? Anyone else have thoughts who to trade for and with who?
However, I don’t think us being in the playoffs with Nabby being slightly better than say Montoya, should keep us from making a deal with Nabby. I think it’s foolish to move Montoya, and Dipietro’s contract is NOT movable. Makes Nabby expendable to a team that might need him. Besides, as much as DiPietro’s had perhaps the worse luck in the history of the NHL, he is 5-6 years younger than Nabby. I still hold a sliver of hope for DIPo, as foolish as that sounds.
i also hold hope for DP to resume his former form
his string of injuries is the worst i have ever seen in any major sport, and its all just bad luck
screw homework, its all about islanders hockey
Nabby is problematic
He’s going to have a very limited market, governed by teams 1) desperately needing a goalie, 2) teams that don’t mind he may be gone in the summer.
So adding him with the rest doesn’t necessarily make it a more attractive or workable package.
If there is someone out there who might be on the outs right now, I’d keep checking the waters on Bogosian.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
He’s going to have a very limited market, governed by teams 1) desperately needing a goalie, 2) teams that don’t mind he may be gone in the summer.
3) Teams he is willing to waive his NMC to go to.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Nov 1, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
-1) Teams that are okay with his 500k towards cap this season.
I think this is a big one. He could be a good, and very cheap, backup goalie for a team looking to go far in the playoffs. How many Western teams, for instance, have two goalies who are better than Nabokov?
Of course trading him to a contender would make it more likely for Isles to get a pick in return, rather than a good defenseman. But Isles can use that pick, if they’d like, in a package to a cellar-dweller for a good defenseman.
BTW, what did the Isles get in return for Sutton a couple seasons back? I wouldn’t mind seeing a defenseman like Sutton (two seasons ago) coming to the Isles for this season. Perhaps that deal could give us an idea of how much such a defenseman would cost.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 1, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Bogosian
i think having him on the team would be amazing. if we could somehow get him, i can imagine some d-pairings along the line of:
mayfield,hamonic
dehaan-bogosian
donovan-Amac
in a few years if that could happen
screw homework, its all about islanders hockey
I don't see it quite like that.
If you have a contender that needs another goalie (yes likely a team that that had a goalie injury) and we sweeten pot with a young Bailey or Comeau, it could get us something fairly nice in return.
I just think the chances of a match there are very unlikely
And remember, what is a contender willing to part with? Usually not someone (“top 4 D”) who can help now.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I don't think it's bad to trade him to an Eastern Conference team
If there is an Eastern team that wants to trade a good defenseman (better than Eaton and Staios, lets say) who has at least one more year left on his contract (and perhaps not even, if the D-man is good enough), I have no problem with Isles trading Nabokov, perhaps even to an Atlantic team.
I think Montoya is at least nearly as good Nabokov right now. (I’d argue he’s a little better.) I would feel comfortable with Montoya and Rick in goal, even though Rick is not the most durable. (And chances are one of the Bridgeport 3 will be decent option by the holidays, if Rick or Montoya goes down with an injury.
Even it if causes the other team to squeeze into a playoff spot, I think the Isles gaining a good defenseman would still give the Isles a better chance of making the playoffs.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 1, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Just my opinion...
but Nabby is the number one right now. Of the three goalies he has had the best rebound control, and has been the most solid technically. They have all shat their pants in the last year, but Nabby has the best history of the three as well.
Combine that with none of the prospects being NHL ready at this point… and you have a three headed goalie monster for a while.
We’re gonna have to live with that if we want a chance at the playoffs.
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@JPinVA
he's by no means a clear one.
In many ways one could argue that Montoya has been the one. I agree though, I see 3-headed monster for at least another 2 months.
you can argue...
for all three. that’s why I clearly qualified that as “just my opinion”.
But with that. I wouldn’t be trading him… not until there is another CLEAR number one… because a number one goaltender is more important than a #4 defenseman… especially one who needs seasoning to get there. We havea few of those already.
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@JPinVA
not when the differential is potentially greater between defensemen (i.e Staos and who we could bring in) than the two goalies (i.e Nabby and Montoya).
If there’s a substantial upgrade to made over Staos than you make the deal, because you can basically flip a coin between Montoya and Nabby IMO. You give up some goalie depth, but you add an upgrade to the core that actually plays. You can only play one goalie at a time.
Oh, how do you quote someone in blue? Earlier I cut and pasted and put quotes, but see others have a different way to quote?
Highlight the pasted quote, then click the blue-colored " icon, and you’ll see the words blockquote in front of and after your pasted quote.
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by Bryan2112 on Nov 2, 2011 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I see 3-headed monster for at least another 2 months.
Yup- me, too.
I have been doing a goalie tracker thread over at the Arena {link} and I also summarized the goalie stats for October.
OCTOBER SUMMARY:
Dipietro: (ST)=1, (BU)=4, (HS)=0 (INJ)=4 (PUL)=0 (REP)=1
Montoya: (ST)=4, (BU)=3, (HS)=2, (INJ)=0 (PUL)=0 (REP)=0
Nabokov: (ST)=4, (BU)=2, (HS)=2, (INJ)=1 (PUL)=1 (REP)=0
October Notes: Rick has been in every game in which he has been healthy, either as starter (1x) or backup (4). He has not been healthy scratched. Rick has been the backup the largest number of times (4x). Al and Nabokov got the same number of starts (4x each).
October Stats:
*=filled in during a shootout
It is a very small sample size (especially for DiPietro) but all three of them have a GAA under 3 and a sv% of .900 or higher. No clear leader so far in the goalie race.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Nov 1, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Based on those stats...
you could say that all three should rotate until somebody wins… or somebody FAILS.
But after 9 games I think the stats reflect the state of the situation.
Montoya saw the first four games… none of them very difficult… but he was winning.
Nabby took the road starts… and was pretty impressive… but failed to get the lion’s share of points.
Dipietro caught a dead San Jose team and gave them instant life by sliding to the boards on an innertube. But played adequate goal the rest of the way.
I think a similar rotation will start again, and it will be disappointingly [to dipietro fans] of similar proportions.
NOTICE HOW I DIDN’T USE “RICKETY”
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by JPinVA on Nov 1, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In actually I would agree
that Nabby has played ever so slightly better. We just need to buy some more time, b/c really, one of them will have to go if all 3 are healthy for another 40 games….and Nabby is the only one you want to move. We need to see Poulin get his game, and see whether DiPo can at least backup for ~25 games a year. In the process you hope Montoya can stay sharp…the guy really deserves a shot to be a 1 goalie IMO. 1st rounder that’s only 26…and he’s played great the last 20+ games last season….and we can stick it to the Rags for giving up on him so quickly.
Agreed
If you can turn him into a defense-man upgrade you do it now. Either way, he’s the best chip we have (or at least a package with him included is). You don’t want to get rid of Montoya and Rick’s going nowhere with the contract. It does annoy me some though, that Montoya hasn’t played in 2 weeks.
How are your relationships with women...
now that we are on the subject of parental guidance.
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@JPinVA
It was kinda rhetorical
but we don’t have a rhetoric font… do we?
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and im generally good at reading sarcasm
i’d say its the lack of sleep this past weekend just caught up to me
screw homework, its all about islanders hockey
HEY, LHH - power came back up just after 7 last night!
Went completely out with about 11 minutes to go in the game Saturday night…..been more or less living in the Dark Ages since then! Still hundreds of thousands out all over New England, though:(
In memoriam: Virginia Ariel Cayon 1927-2011 R.I.P. Mom
by ogam5 on Nov 1, 2011 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
- at least I had 2 bright n' sunny daytimes to offset a bit, but.....
….gasoline, batteries and corded phones were akin to GOLD…..also discovered the ‘joys’ of cooking with Sterno!
In memoriam: Virginia Ariel Cayon 1927-2011 R.I.P. Mom
i live in NW Florida,
aka, HURRICANE ALLEY. I’ve been through 7 hurricanes and countless tropical storms, and never evacuated.
It’ll make you tough, and make you appreciate the things we take for granted when we don’t have them for a while.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 1, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Aaah... Allison!
She used to go through Miami freshman like Butterbean through a half gallon of rocky road… she too was known as HURRICANE ALLEY!
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@JPinVA
Yikes
Glad you’re back up. Don’t drink the milk.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
by Dominik on Nov 1, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
WTF made this Saturday/Thursday schedule?
A hockey team is supposed to play more than once a goddamn week, you know.
Bring Trevor Back!!
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Nov 1, 2011 11:28 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
My thoughts on Nino
I don’t think he’s going to be a great player right away. (Probably not even an above-average forward for the Isles this season.) But I think it is very possible that he can be the domino that causes some other ones to fall. (Meaning that it’s possible a couple other forwards could start to get rolling because he enters the lineup.)
At the same time, a couple players could get going when he enters the lineup, and it may be totally coincidental.
Regardless, when you combine the energy that Nino should bring with the momentum the Islanders’ forwards have from creating scoring chances the past 3 games, I think there is a strong likelihood we see the Isles beginning to score at the rate that many people expected coming into the season.
Whether it is Rolston, Pandolfo, or Bailey who is scratched (hoping it is Rolston), I think Nino will bring some jump/excitement to the lineup. He’s not going to bowl people over like Martin, but I think he’ll provide a little POP and more hunger to score than Rolston/Pandolfo/Bailey have.
BTW, did anyone else notice how AMac and then Hamonic were used on the 1st PP unit last game (with Streit, of course)? Does anyone know if Rolston was tired at the time, or was it coach’s decision?
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 1, 2011 11:46 AM EDT reply actions
(Meaning that it’s possible a couple other forwards could start to get rolling because he enters the lineup.)
But why? I certainly hope this team isn’t sitting around thinking: “Man, just wait until we get a rookie with one NHL goal to his credit into the lineup!”
I certainly hope not either
But when we see the amount of goals (and even scoring chances) that certain forwards have contributed towards (Rolston: virtually none; Bailey not many; Pandolfo not many— although he has been very good defensively most games), it is not hard to imagine that adding Nino would help to create more goals. And once the goals start coming, I can imagine a guy like Grabner, Moulson, or even KO squeezing the stick less and putting more in the net.
That’s why I think it’s possible Nino’s entrance causes others to score more goals. I think it’s more likely, however, that it just happens coincidentally, especially with the Winnipeg game coming up.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Nov 1, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, that's why it's interesting to me
I mean, odds are Nino’s going to struggle, not provide much of a boost (depending on who’s scratched) and even elicit “wow, and people mentioned him for the Calder?!” stories.
But funny things can happen and dominoes can fall when you tinker. The intrigue of the unknown.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
You raise an interesting question though. If we expect a guy to be a high-end offensive producer, a 70+ points/yr guy what is
kind of production as a 19yr old puts him on track for that eventual production?
Not mutually exclusive
I don’t think it’s that simple. It’s not like people are waiting around for Nino to jump start them. But, as is said above, it can have a positive snowball effect via more competition, mixing of lines, adding a physical presence and space etc etc. I think Jurcina can cause a similar effect. In fact, i think we’ve seen it a little of it already on the defensive end.
Manhattanite looking for advice...
New to the blog. Upstate New Yorker. Became an Islanders fan in the late 80s when I first started watching hockey. Grew up in Ranger country, so I’m tried and true.
Anyway, how is the LIRR to Hempstead, to the bus, to the Coliseum? I’ve heard some pretty sketchy things about it. Thoughts?
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by khrudey30 on Nov 1, 2011 11:59 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I've never taken the bus, don't know if it's sketchy or just annoyingly inconvenient
But have done a cab from Garden City.
There might be this package, if it exists, and if it’s reliable (two big IFs). Hopefully some locals will chime in.
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LIRR to Mineola to cab. Thats how I do it. Nothing sketchy about it, really. :)
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Nov 1, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Butbutbut...the Post said Snow was being "cagey" and that meant the Islanders were going to pick up Avery and egg Glen Sather's car and...
anh…forget it.
BrettCyrgalis Brett Cyrgalis
As reported, both Avery and Gillies clear waivers. It’s confirmed. #Isles
"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science
by PGI on Nov 1, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The Post [Brooks] Has Learned
SNOW DECIDES AGAINST CLAIMING AVERY
Isles GM is coy, but decision is believed to have been reached within last 24 hours.
*Not actual copy, but might as well be
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According to Brooks, Avery has cleared waivers, headed to Rags
by SchneiderDiricov on Nov 1, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Nevermind, next time have to read more closely that this was already
reported two comments above mine. Oopsie!
by SchneiderDiricov on Nov 1, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Um... today's lines per team twitter
Lines: Moulson-Tavares-Parenteau; Grabner-Nielsen-Okposo; Comeau-Bailey-Rolston, Niederreiter; Pandolfo-Reasoner-Martin,Gillies.
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Nov 1, 2011 1:07 PM EDT reply actions
Nice
Liking my chances for the AIL!!!
Tavares is Tavares.
by afrosupreme on Nov 1, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If your AIL
were the same exact lines as Saturday, youre golden
author of "57 Easy Ways to Score More Than 2 Goals a Game"
by Chris McNally on Nov 1, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea
the latest development sunk my battleship.
I think Ben took the same lineup though.
Tavares is Tavares.
No fair
He had Swiss Insider Advantage.
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Warning:
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