Recap - Panthers 2, Islanders 0: Treating loud home crowd to a dud
Nothing satisfying about whipping your home fans up into a great Home Opener frenzy, only to come out sloppy, perhaps uptight, and deliver a flat performance without a single goal for. You almost wonder if all the home opener hype and excitement for a young squad that finished last season strong got to their head, and they forgot about the requirements of the job at hand.
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The Panthers, to their credit, played a strong game from the beginning, with disciplined defense intercepting Islanders passes that were too often too easy to pick off; with Brian Campbell roaming with the puck to disrupt Islanders coverage; and with Jose Theodore making the needed saves once the Islanders finally applied pressure during the second half of the game.
Overall, a powerful lesson for the Islanders: The season is here. That means work, and attention to detail. The happy talk won't write itself.
Game 'Highlights' (air quotes apply)
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The Panthers don't have stars (well, I'd call Stephen Weiss one), but they do have four lines capable of playing some hockey. It was a simple, effective game for them. The early lead helped, a 5-on-3 enabled the final margin of victory, and while they faced some Islanders powerplays down the stretch, they kept it simple and survived.
Final shots were just 29-27 for the Panthers, but that was a product of the Islanders getting more chances (and powerplays) in the second half as they scuffled to come back. First-period shots were 10-5 for the Panthers, and the margin got to 17-7 before things started to turn around.
Individual Notes
The New Veterans: Hard to read too much into them, but Brian Rolston was a nice presence on the point for the powerplay -- smart puck plays, not just howitzers from the point. Need more looks at him next to Josh Bailey and Blake Comeau. Jay Pandolfo was part of a fourth line that didn't get a lot of work but they handled their assignments well. Marty Reasoner showed several small smart instances that reflect why he was a good addition.
The Incumbent Stars: John Tavares was one of the brighter spots. He carried the puck well, moved like off-season skating work might pay off, and was clearly driven all night, unlike many teammates. Was 10-7 in the faceoff circle. The FNGO line of Frans Nielsen, Kyle Okposo and Michael Grabner had a few moments -- though I think they forced a few home run passes for Grabner to fetch -- but overall nothing like their magical nights last season. Like most of the team, not totally in sync. Of course Okposo hit the post again on a zipping shot from the high slot.
Josh Bailey was the Josh Bailey we've come to know: He made a goal-saving defensive play on the penalty kill ... and at the end of the first period he had a chance to shoot as time expired but passed instead. (The pass, to be fair, would have created a great scoring chance ... had it not been intercepted.)
Matt Martin was the Matt Martin we've come to know: He had some very nice sequences both hitting, winning the puck and handling the puck. Of all people he tied Rolston for a team-high five shots (in just 8:57!) Some were bad-angle, but still...more than his teammates could say. Anyway, he also displayed some of that "every battle is my battle" overexuberance that can get him in trouble. His one penalty was behind the play, and I'm not sure if it was his fault or clever simulation by Theodore.
Penalty Kill: The only goal conceded on five Panthers opportunities was on a 5-on-3, but that doesn't mean the regular PK was airtight. Steve Staios and Mark Eaton carried the bulk of it with nearly 5 minutes of PK time each. The Panthers moved the puck well, got four shots off at 5-on-4 and a few more that missed the net. As usual, a few misclears and unlucky bounces here and there were the difference between sustained attacks and a relieving clearance.
Mike Mottau, who had eight penalty minutes in 20 games in 2010-11, piled up six on three crucial minors tonight. He made a few nice plays with the puck, but his defense was slow and got him into trouble. And on one play where he took a rather soft holding penalty as David Booth streaked around him, he finished it by driving Booth into Montoya.
The Blake Comeau back-to-his-natural-wing experiment needs more looks. (Everything needs more looks after one game, but that one I don't even feel comfortable commenting on.) COZO-free night.
After the Panthers crashed Montoya's crease twice (with some Islanders help), Travis Hamonic took a noogie shot at Tomas Kopecky's prone head, which drew Scott Upshall to fight Hamonic. Hamonic wasted no time in accepting the challenge, but the sequence took him off the ice for seven minutes. (Upshall was tossed for not having his jersey tied down.)
Al Montoya drew the big home opener start and played fairly well, but hardly airtight. There were several uncomfortable rebounds that his defense was able to clear, and he ended up in snow-angel position a couple of times when staying upright and square appeared to be possible. He certainly made his share of saves and looked more like the Montoya who finished last season than the one who looked shaky in his first few Islanders appearances. So far, so good.
I don't know what the new goal song is, because there was no need for it tonight.
Well, That Season's Over. See You Next October.
I read no lasting conclusions from this game. It was one game and, sorry, I've seen every kind of season-opener in the book and have it in no way relate to a team's outcomes after game 82. Do I have to bring up Mike Comrie and a season-opening home-and-home with Buffalo, or do you catch my drift?
The real shame is the Islanders players wasted a great opportunity in front of a packed, excited home crowd that no doubt included some newbies and some crotchety old-timers returning to give them one more chance. On the rest of this home stand, they'll have to do better.
Next game is the Columbus Day matinee Monday. By Monday evening, we'll have doubled our 2011-12 sample size.
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Goal song
just speculation but I think it’s going to be Kickstart My Heart, they were pumping it through the speakers a couple of times throughout the game.
Isles jerseys I've owned: Fisherman, Tim Connolly, Josh Bailey RBK Edge edition. I've got a history of success.
Unless that's the rally song and the real goal song is...
Yanni!
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by Dominik on Oct 9, 2011 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yup- I was just gonna point that out.
Crowd Chant and Kickstart got play, the other two didnt. Does that tell us anything? I have no idea.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Oct 9, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep. kickstar my heart 3X's during the game. Crowd Chant during the opening.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Which makes sense
If the players like all four, they might as well have the losing three in the rotation for the rest of the game.
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Poor guys
The team just didn’t want to hear Live is Life any more.
We may be in the box, but you get the penalty.
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It's crowd chant, isles twittter just announced it
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by ArsenalLI on Oct 9, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He is a LI musician, I really like that.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Oct 9, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's a nice connection.
I’m not a big Satriani fan myself and think he’s good but nothing amazing music writing wise, prefer Gilbert/Vai/Buckethead/Malmsteen in his comparable music genre all over him, but the song fits, has LI roots, and is catchy. It does the job pretty well.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
by OzzyFan on Oct 9, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just feel like the other songs captured the spirit a little better, ya know?
Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.
Satriani's got talent. Not a bad choice. It's very catchy.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
My favorite part of talking to Brian Campbell's fiancé the whole game
was when she talked about how he won the cup with Chicago like it was no big thing
Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.
Good looking? Bad conversationalist? Know anything about hockey?
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Good looking
good conversationalist – admitted to not understanding some of the vaguer hockey stuff but honestly it took me a while to come to grips with all that as well.
Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.
Not bad then. Could be a lot worse for Campbell.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Hockey is perfect for not understanding the vaguer stuff
I mean, it’s fast and exciting even if you don’t know the rules, don’t realize who’s who, and don’t watch anything but the puck. Not like other sports where there are so many breaks and so much down time.
I think a lot of hockey arguments stem from different people talking about the game on different layers of detail.
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Hockey is perfect for not understanding the vaguer stuff
I mean, it’s fast and exciting even if you don’t know the rules, don’t realize who’s who, and don’t watch anything but the puck. Not like other sports where there are so many breaks and so much down time.
I think a lot of hockey arguments stem from different people talking about the game on different layers of detail.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I don't think I've ever seen a Dom double post. Is this a first?
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Wow, I guess so
I blame the officiating wi-fi!
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by Dominik on Oct 9, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice.
That woman is marrying very well.
Sign a prenup, Soupie!
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by Dominik on Oct 9, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am getting too old to get soooo excited
just to be let down. But, whatever. I’m over it. On to Monday! The team we watched tonight is not the team we will be watching for the rest of the season. The pressure was on…and clearly they felt it. They have to calm down and settle in for a long season. I believe in these guys! GO ISLES!
Pressure
Is one of the question marks. The won last year when they were out of it. Tonight they failed miserably.
they'll be fine...
first game of the year. not a big deal…3 things you can take from this game:
- officiating was atrocious (i don’t like to use the refs as an excuse, but it was clear that the officiating was sub-par at best)
- mike mottau really looks bad out there. it wasn’t the amount of time he spent in the box that bothered me the most. i couldn’t tell you the amount of times i saw him getting burned when the panthers brought the puck into the zone.
- not capitalizing and executing on chances. in front of a packed coliseum, you gotta come out like gangbusters.
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- Steve Zissou
True
Blatent inconsistancies with tripping and goalie interference calls. Still doesn’t account for Florida being WAY better with special teams play than Isles. 5-on-3 was a rough call, though. Hard to tell if player tried to slide into Montoya. Certainly didn’t make an effort to avoid him. And when Theodore comes out aggressively from the crease an collides with Martin, it is Martin’s fault for trying for the rebound and clipping Theo?
Florida outplayed Isles, but that 5-on-3 goal was a dagger.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 9, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Treating loud home crowd to a dud
In an earlier post I said without further adieu instead of ado as a joke. At the time I didn’t realise that it was adieu to the season already.
This is what you call being ready for the season? I know it’s only one game but it already has the same old Islanders feel to it already.
If the pressure is getting to them 1 game into the season I would hate to think how they will respond when the real pressure is on.It is definately time for some of the greybeards that they signed to show some of that leadership that they were talking about.
One game in and I see monday’s game as a must win already. Does anybody else think they can start 0 and 2 and have a successful season?
Ask me in 81 more games.
I know, the “long season” thing is so old, but it’s gonna be a bumpy ridde with these young guys. Just enjoy the highs and keep the gun out of your mouth after a run of these stinkers, because it will turn around again.
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by since70too on Oct 9, 2011 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe I'm splitting hairs, but I didn't think there was any "pressure" last night
Just hype and excitement poorly channeled. Hard to picture too much implied pressure when you have a whole season ahead of you.
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A few thoughts...on the Telecast
For the first time in the last few years I did not see Charles Wang on the TV during the opener. I’m sure CW was there but Usually Howie has a sit down with him during an intermission to discuss arena issues and stuff (The referndum was not mentioned once at all during telecast not once). that was note worthy to me.
-Capuano sending a message with the Montoya start???? Howie mentioned that he thought it was a signal on the business-like approach they are taking into this season.
-The crowd was playoff caliber!!! I sensed that the players got caught up in that a bit and that they were pressing some trying to create opportunities.
-New Game Host Peter Ruttgeizer even seemed a bit nervous and had his first night jitters. At one point in the pre-game he called the building the “Nassau County Memorial Coliseum”
-Disappointing that the Isles couldn’t put one past the Goalie…the place would have went bananas!!!
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uhm yeah
I still want Marcel Goc. And Sean Bergenheim.
By the way, Dom, while there’s nothing available in terms of Corsi and zonestarts, yet, Vic’s updated the H2H TOI and shift charts scripts.
Clearly this game was about lack of jump and stuff more than matchups. However, Florida’s first goal came when Weiss was out there for the first time against JT instead of Nielsen, who’d had a long shift on the PK with Grabner a minute earlier.
Thanks Ben
was looking around for those to add! Just so everyone knows, there is raw data at the top of the H2H TOI, but if you scroll down a bunch the good stuff is down there.
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lol. I saw Goc and Bergy on the PK and thought that this could be a long night for our PP.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Thanks!
Was playing with the URLs, thinking they were year/season-dependent.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Oh wait, i get it
I tried those links last night and didn’t realize the pretty charts were way at the bottom.
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Chrismc
Are you doing the scoring chance thing? As a potential “cheat”, there is this graphic from NHL.com that shows shot locations. As a fun aside, I may track from that to see how often they match up.
Obviously, some of those are subjective…like even the doorstep ones, if a guy is draped all over our player and the puck squirts out harmlessley and the goalie stops and covers, I would have a hard time calling that a scoring chance, but it may register as a SOG.
You can filter that by period, PP, ES, SH and by period…kind of fun, and also there are some highlights attached, and you can look at hits, goals, penalties and fights.
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By this
looks like 9 scoring chances for Isles and 16-19 for Panthers. I have to get more familiar with the scoring chance shape…should make myself a little scale template.
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Just be aware that the NHL.com tracker is notoriously unreliable. Some arenas (cough MSG) worse than others.
There’s a crude drawing here.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 9, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the heads up
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Comeau
I think what they had planned was to play Rolston on the left and Comeau on the right side. But during the 2nd half of the game Comeau ended up on his off-wing (the left side) a lot indeed, and they even lined up that way for faceoffs with Rolston moving over to the right side.
Both of course prefer the left side (Comeau his off-wing side therefore), but Capuano seemed to be determined to teach Comeau playing on his “natural” side. Not sure, what his plan is now, whether he’s given up already.
However, it’s far from ideal what they’re doing or, actually, what they’re forced to do there with that line. And regardless, Comeau’s just still kind of frustrating to watch. There was that hit on him by Upshall, where he was skating into the zone on his off-wing, sending a backhand around the boards and admiring his pass – instead of knowing what was going on around him. For me, that’s the typical Comeau right there. It happened a few times last year, most notably against Pittsburgh, when Talbot run him over. You know, it’s not a play that will cost you games and everything unfolds so quickly, so, it can happen, but the fact that Comeau seemingly just can’t adjust to the situation doesn’t make me feel confident he’ll adjust quickly to other challenges, such as moving to the right wing.
Yeah. I too noticed the Comeau/Rolston wing swapping. I thought I was seeing things at first, but then saw it a couple times and noticed I wasn't.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
I got to watch the Cat's broadcast
So I missed the player introductions. But, luckily, or unfortunately, that is all I missed. There was a lack of momentum for Isles. The only line that looked good was the fourth. Montoya looked good, so I’m hoping he is our number one going forward (perhaps DP should shave his playoff beard). Hopefully Monday will bring a better Islanders game, which I won’t really get to see due to a prior arrangement. This was only the beginning, but hopefully it is was the beginning of something special.
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nerves
I think they were a little nervous. Home opener, big crowd, expectations. Even during the player introductions, they all looked nervous or uptight. They have 81 games left to improve, and they will. For the first time, people outside of the organization have said they can be good. I think they heard all this and pooped the bed. However, I think they’ll realize these people are right, they are good, and they’ll come around.
by billymac23 on Oct 9, 2011 9:35 AM EDT via iPhone app reply actions 2 recs
nerves
I think they were a little nervous. Home opener, big crowd, expectations. Even during the player introductions, they all looked nervous or uptight. They have 81 games left to improve, and they will. For the first time, people outside of the organization have said they can be good. I think they heard all this and pooped the bed. However, I think they’ll realize these people are right, they are good, and they’ll come around.
I could not agree with you more.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 9, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Defensemen grades
Watched it from home. These grades are based soley on performance, not ability.
Streit: B
Overall looked good, but we all know he can put up an ‘A’ performance for a good stretch of games. Good 1st game back.
Staios: C+
Pleasantly surprised with his game last night. Looks fine out there.
AMac: C+
Pretty rusty still. Not a bad game, but too many bad touches.
Hamonic: B+
What I expected. Good, solid play. would have looked better if AMac was on his game.
Mottau: D
Awful 1st period. Decent the rest of the game. Another game like this and Isles may bring up another defenseman. At least two bad penalties.
Eaton: C
I expected a little better. Hope his quickness picks up a little, because he is not big enough to play this slowly.
Surprisingly good forward of the game: Comeau. Martin looked good too. Perhaps we see more of Martin/Bailey/Comeau next game and Pandolfo/Reasoner/Rolston sparingly EV and a lot on special teams.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 9, 2011 9:52 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
agreed
I’d have given very similar grades for the defensemen. I too was pleasantly surprised with Staios’ game, thought he was their third best D on the night, behind Hamonic and Streit. I might have been a bit tougher on AMac, who I generally like a lot, though. Actually, I think he’s underrated in general, but anyway, last night he really struggled out there, particularly in the first two periods – probably just rust and/or nerves, though.
Good job grading. I thought just about the same.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
I liked the hustle I saw in
P.A. and Pandolfo. Martin looked like he was zippy too.
Everyone else tried to make too many slick passing plays that failed spectacularly.
Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.
PA might have had hustle, but his passes were so horrible that it took away from appreciating it.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 9, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
you know
I think there part of the carelessless was due to the isles perhaps not respecting the Panthers D.
Florida was actually kind of impressive last night I thought. they seemed to intercept a lot of Isles passes last night.
a little of both i think
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Surprisingly, their D doesn't look as bad as I thought it would.
Campbell/Kulikov/Gudbranson/Jovocop isn’t a bad top 4 at all. And they seemed to have some decent checking forwards.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
heh
Well, yeah, agreed their D isn’t bad at all, I just think Garrison and Weaver are certainly among their top 4. Those two are really their two best defensive defensemen, had very decent results last season playing extremely tough minutes. They’re split up for the moment with Campbell (30:04 TOI last night!) coming in and joining Garrison on the top-pair, but both anyway remain important pieces. So, I guess they might be even better than you originally thought, (although I don’t know if you might overrate Jovanovski, Gudbranson or also Kulikov a little).
But definitely agreed on all accounts regarding the checking forwards. Not sure guys like Fleischmann, Skille and Upshall will bring that game every night, but their back pressure was definitely outstanding in this one.
Ha. Yeah, I was just guessing those guys were eating the minutes based on contract/projections,
but I was wrong. Garrison an Weaver were doing the heavy lifting with Campbell, and they were impressive last night.
I was really surprised on the chemistry they had compared to us too, frightening given how new of a team they are roster wise vs us very similar to last year.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Chemistry
Agreed. I was foolishly hoping for a less organized Panthers squad. But I think maybe they kept it simple for precisely that reason.
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Ad Hoc stuff I saw at the game
I was at the game behind the glass at the face-off circle and found one incident interesting. On a power play, before the drop of the puck, Rolston decides to change location from one side of the circle to another and screams something to Streit. Streit has a WTF look on his face and says "What?". Rolston leans over and I guess repeats what he had said. Rolston turns back to the play and Streit remains with a very confused look (even quickly looking to his partner at the point as if he was searching for a clue on what Rolston was talking about). Two thoughts came to mind, (1) maybe these guys (the team) need a few more games/practices to get to know each others’ playing styles, (2) Also, couldn’t help but wonder if Steit was thinking "who is this guy bossing us around in his first game with the team"…but they’re both veterans, so I think they’ll work it out.
Having said that, Florida had many new faces on their team and they were all very much in sync.
For first time, I sat behind the glass (in the Isles attack zone). Don’t think I’ll do that again, as I didn’t realize that the seats are so low it barely puts your line of vision above the boards.
Ice was horrible. There were puddles everywhere to start each period.
Yeah, lots of whiffs and misplays with the puck because of the 75* day and ice.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Was wondering about the ice
Seemed like the puck was taking hop-skip-bounce passes just 8 minutes into the 1st.
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This team needs Haley (or a similar player)
You can count the number of big hits in last night’s game on….zero fingers? How many times have you seen a game where a team looked flat, then were revitalized after a few big hits? I have never seen a team so flat in a home opener. If Gillies isn’t in the lineup (and I’m not a fan of his because he seems to have no control of himself), Haley needs to be. We will get destroyed by big teams if we field the lineup we had last night.
by Peter Karamazov on Oct 9, 2011 11:10 AM EDT reply actions
Much as I love a good physical game too
I don’t want to just throw a guy into the lineup on the off-chance they’re playing flat. Getting a good run into someone can certainly help settle a team down and get the crowd going, but why not count Hamonic’s throwdown with Upshall? Martin too is a guy who can throw the body around, it’s not like those players aren’t in the lineup
I’m not going to read much into this game. Outside of the 1st, Florida didn’t look very good either, though it’s easier to deal with when you’re leading. Isles looked flat and out of sync, but a different day, with a different opponent, and another real game under their belt, and we’ll see what happens
by Dr. Copp on Oct 9, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, Martin was out there throwing hits
How many “mix it up with a hit” guys does a lineup need?
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by Dominik on Oct 9, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The big question, I think, is...
…what does Pandolfo bring to the game that Haley lacks? And is that enough to make up for Haley’s toughness? If Nielsen works out well on PP1 and Pandolfo can take some PK time instead of Nielsen, it may be worth it. But so far what I’ve seen on the PK from Pandolfo hasn’t been close to as good as what Nielsen can do, even without considering Nielsen’s scoring threat on the PK…. Even though Jurcina is not the roughest player, I think Isles missed his size yesterday. Good to see KO throwing his weight around a little, though.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 9, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure Pandolfo v. Haley was something we could prove yet
Haley is a late bloomer but I’m not sure how much better he can get; Pandolfo’s decline may have been complicated by injuries (but still seems inevitable even if his shoulder is 100% now).
But the important factor, I think, is Haley could be housed in BPT still (without clearing waivers), and I suspect that helps give them depth and options at the start of the season. I really like Haley as a fan, but just looking at his overall figures last year I wasn’t even sure he’d be re-signed.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
I doubt haley could have been as good on the PK as Pandolfo has been so far, but who knows. It's a long season also.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Running Total for 2011-2012
Goalpost 1, Kyle 0
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 9, 2011 11:58 AM EDT reply actions
I think we should keep track of this all season
Unfortunately hell probably still hit more posts than goals as usual
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Thats our Okposto.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Oct 9, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. The okposto tracker.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
by OzzyFan on Oct 9, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I will keep track
Who is keeping track of Grabner’s breakaways?
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 9, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow.. that was
uninspired. I think the crowd had more enthusiasm than the Islanders did. These guys just had no jump and certainly no cohesiveness. Have to say tho, I thought Pandalfo (and the 4th line in general) played really well. Other than that, well. its only one game, hopefully we’ll get it goin tomorrow.
Isles rule, rangers suck... that's just how it is.
Over/Under: How many games before the 1st defenseman call-up?
I’m going with 8.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Wait, this is a trick question.
If Jurcina is healthy, they scratch Mottau.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 9, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Couple questions.
1-Is Gillies on IR? Just wondering when is the soonest we could see him.
2-Nino is 2-3weeks out. Anyone think we see some Strome Monday vs the wild after the sub-par play by most of the team? If so, where?
3-Did anyone notice that the opposing team sort of knew which forwards we have that “shy” from contact and which ones don’t?
I could have sworn I saw a lot of their defenseman and even some of their forwards put themselves into heavily vulnerable hitting or hard contact situations with no worry of being hit when they were near Nielsen/Grabner/Tavares/possibly-Bailey, maybe others but not sure(Eaton on D possibly) . Could be coincidental. Anyone else notice this?
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Gillies and Nino can come off any time
Their IR was retroactive to Sept. 30 (So, add 7 days…). But it sounded like his groin injury wasn’t just a sleep a few days and be back.
On Strome, your second question maybe answers your first. Not sure there’s an obvious spot, and I don’t think anyone needs a shock scratch after one game.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Just a thought on the pregame ceremony
Section 318 for the night with some season ticket holders, in the corner by the net where Theodore was in twice, got a nice view of the Isles offense all game. Seemed really tense when it came to letting loose some shots, seems like alot of nerves making them hold onto the puck which should be fine by Monday even though I wanted them to win for my birthday haha.
One thing I didn’t like though was so many people booing DiPietro during the pregame ceremony. I couldn’t help but feel bad for the guy since he was the only player on the team to get pummeled with boos. As if all the injuries are his fault over the last few years. Just a little black spot on the night i felt. People could atleast cut the guy a little slack and show him some support since he’s getting a fresh start for the first time in about 5 years.
by MineolaIsles on Oct 9, 2011 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
A lot of people have been bringing up the booing here (which is a good sign)
Don’t get it. No matter what you think of his play, he doesn’t deserve the Muller treatment on opening freaking night introductions.
Agree they were being way too careful, tentative, maybe nervous with the offense. Took forever to remember to get shots on goal.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Same Ols S$%T
Meet the new Islanders, same as the old Islanders. Abysmal effort, abysmal passing, defense, shooting and hitting. Not a good way to start a season full of high expectations. And I am tired of watching the same tepid offense!! Am I being too hard?? Don’t think so, considering the crowd was ready. It would have been nice if the team had been!!!
Youth WILL be served!!
The REBUILD marches on!!
by upstateislesfan on Oct 10, 2011 1:42 AM EDT reply actions
Agreed for the most part, but this line…
And I am tired of watching the same tepid offense!! Am I being too hard??
In all fairness we watched it… once lol. The offense last year was definitely not tepid.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Oct 10, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Mordred's Game Recap
1. Montoya looked good. Not great looked good. Neither goal he gave up was his fault. He gave us exactly what we have come to expect from him.
2. Streit did not look good. The goal that trickled past Montoya should have never gone in. He should have either cleared the player or the puck he did neither. He was caught flat foot and overall did not look good. The defense as a whole in the 1st half of the game could not get the puck out of their zone.
3. The offense did not play well either. Individually a few of them played OK but nobody stood out.
Not a very good game. What bothered me most was that they had a sellout crowd, that was ready and they come out like they just woke out of bed, which was inexcusable. They better come out today flying and ready to play.

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