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Islanders Sign Jay Pandolfo; Agree to Terms with Ryan Strome

WILL BLOCK SHOTS FOR FOOD.

UPDATE: The Islanders have also agreed to terms with 2011 1st-round pick Ryan Strome.

Another roster domino officially falls as the New York Islanders have signed training camp tryout and ex-Devil Jay Pandolfo on the day before final season-opening rosters are due. [Note: You regulars are fast. Existing FanShot discussion over here.]

Before rehabbing his shoulder and spending almost all of last season away from hockey (save for a brief tryout with AHL Springfield), Pandolfo was once a bottom-six fixture on successful Devils teams.

Of course, his production and useage declined steadily each year since the lockout, leading to the self-inflicted buyout by the Devil that sent him on some Biblical year wandering pro hockey's desert.

Star-divide

So as with fellow camp invite Steve Staios, the Islanders are taking a bit of a leap of faith here that: 1) The body has recovered, 2) The aging body will not soon (re)decline, and 3) What they believe they saw in training camp was the real thing. Cheap depth, low commitment, veteran my-career-hangs-here surliness.

In the very least, all future down-on-their-luck NHLers know they can take Islanders' training camp invitations seriously. This isn't just some Manny Legace need-a-body show -- there are actual jobs to be won!

 

Forward Roster Update

I'm starting to wonder if Jack Capuano has a more varied crew of penalty killers in mind this year, possibly freeing Frans Nielsen up for more powerplay work. Just a thought.

Pandolfo, quoted by the official site before his signing, was obviously grateful just for the shot:

“They gave me a great chance, played me in every game and gave me good ice time,” Pandolfo said. “I felt pretty good, I hadn’t played games in a long time so it was good to get back in there and get my timing down and all that stuff, it felt pretty good and we’ll see what happens now.”

What happens now is a contract, and another lifeline on an NHL career that dates back to 1996-97.

Anyway, as we've discussed this week, the forwards are slowly becoming clearer:

Forwards (15)

Matt Moulson John Tavares P.A. Parenteau
Michael Grabner Frans Nielsen Kyle Okposo
Blake Comeau Josh Bailey Brian Rolston
Matt Martin Marty Reasoner
Jay Pandolfo
Trevor Frischmon Ryan Strome Kirill Kabanov


Injured Reserve: Jeremy Colliton, Rhett Rakhshani, Nino Niederreiter, Trevor Gillies. (Also: D-man Mark Katic)

There are eight defensemen still in camp, too, although injuries or the prevailing winds on Dylan Reese may make that seven. In any case, cut the two junior forwards [edit: That is, if you're signing Strome now but still cutting him, which is quite possible] and you have 13 forwards, 3 goalies, 8 defensemen: One pro left to go.

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If they sign Kyle Wellwood.

"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science

by PGI on Oct 4, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I literally

laughed so loud my class turned around at me. granted i should not have been on here during class but non the less. great caption.

The Islanders' team surgeon is now the 4th wealthiest man in the United States

by CraigConway on Oct 4, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Caption totally rocks.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Surprise

Didn’t see this one. In Garth we trust.

Thou shalt not recognize false enemies, they are the Rangers, you shall have no other enemies before them.
AND "Thank you Dale Tallon"

by since70too on Oct 4, 2011 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Is this supposed to be exciting news?

Another over the hill player. Great work Snow…

by Battlin Bily on Oct 4, 2011 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Fab

Sorry, I do not post to please you.

by Battlin Bily on Oct 4, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, he has the same hatred of me for some reason… and thinks we all care to know about it.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sounds exactly like Adam Leistman to me.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 4, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: Is there a specific reason you used that "Bily" spelling?

Maybe its a pun based on something? Just curious.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now that I have read your posts

I have come to the conclusion that you just spelled “Billy” wrong… which, coupled with your posts, speaks volumes.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

MY obsession lol?

You just showed up here AGAIN and cannot HELP but start targeting me out of nowhere and you have the balls to call ME obsessed because I post here- just like everyone else here?

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never posted here before

I just noticed your usual stupidity and commented. YES, you are clearly obsessed with kissing Isles ass. It is pretty pathetic, year after year, and every year they suck. lol!

by Battlin Bily on Oct 4, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

so wait wait

you have never posted but you are OBSESSED enough to show up here every year and target on one posters loyalty?

Who is obsessed again? Take a look in the mirror

James T Paulson

by Jtpdolphins2009 on Oct 4, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Didnt think you would respond to this either

It takes class to do so and you clearly have none.

Must be a Ranger fan

James T Paulson

by Jtpdolphins2009 on Oct 4, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Declaration of Independence - (courtesy of wikipedia)

The Declaration of Independence was a statement adopted by the Continental Congress on July 4, 1776, which announced that the thirteen American colonies then at war with Great Britain regarded themselves as independent states, and no longer a part of the British Empire. John Adams put forth a resolution earlier in the year which made a formal declaration inevitable. A committee was assembled to draft the formal declaration, which was to be ready when congress voted on independence. Adams persuaded the committee to select Thomas Jefferson to compose the original draft of the document,2 which congress would edit to produce the final version. The Declaration was ultimately a formal explanation of why Congress had voted on July 2 to declare independence from Great Britain, more than a year after the outbreak of the American Revolutionary War. The birthday of the United States of America—Independence Day—is celebrated on July 4, the day the wording of the Declaration was approved by Congress.
 
After finalizing the text on July 4, Congress issued the Declaration of Independence in several forms. It was initially published as a printed broadside that was widely distributed and read to the public. The most famous version of the Declaration, a signed copy that is usually regarded as the Declaration of Independence, is on display at the National Archives in Washington, D.C. Although the wording of the Declaration was approved on July 4, the date of its signing has been disputed. Most historians have concluded that it was signed nearly a month after its adoption, on August 2, 1776, and not on July 4 as is commonly believed. The original July 4 United States Declaration of Independence manuscript was lost while all other copies have been derived from this original document.3
 
The sources and interpretation of the Declaration have been the subject of much scholarly inquiry. The Declaration justified the independence of the United States by listing colonial grievances against King George III, and by asserting certain natural and legal rights, including a right of revolution. Having served its original purpose in announcing independence, the text of the Declaration was initially ignored after the American Revolution. Its stature grew over the years, particularly the second sentence, a sweeping statement of human rights:
 

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
 
This sentence has been called “one of the best-known sentences in the English language”4 and “the most potent and consequential words in American history”.5 The passage has often been used to promote the rights of marginalized people throughout the world, and came to represent a moral standard for which the United States should strive. This view was notably promoted by Abraham Lincoln, who considered the Declaration to be the foundation of his political philosophy, and argued that the Declaration is a statement of principles through which the United States Constitution should be interpreted.6

by Cary K on Oct 4, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude

this is not the Islander’s site where we bash every move the GM makes, call our owner a joke, call every player who is not physical ‘soft’, etc etc.. There are other Islander’s sites for that sort of thing. This just isn’t it. This is a site for intelligent discussion. Say what you think and WHY you think it. Let other’s respond to your thoughts and give REASONS for agreeing/disagreeing. If you want a more unrestrained type of discussion you are in the wrong place.

by TMS on Oct 4, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The owner is a joke.

And so far Snow has proven nothing. Expect another bottom 5 finish.

by Battlin Bily on Oct 4, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah

the real Billy Smith had a reason to jump on people lol

James T Paulson

by Jtpdolphins2009 on Oct 4, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He also knew how to spell Billy.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 4, 2011 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I can see ol' Battlin "Bily" typing away at his keyboard to sign up here

Just typing so fast, and all he was thinking to himself was:

“I can’t wait to start posting and tell these homers all about how Garth really sucks and he should be fired!!!!!!…. 412 times. In 2 days!!!”

And he types so fast as he’s signing up that he has the first ever wrongly spelled screenname in the history of the interwebs. “Bily”

Seriousy, Bily? How do you screw that up? Exactly how many bong rips of snoop dogg g cush do you need to fog up before you forget how to spell Billy?

 The only thing that could make this sweeter is if Billy Smith showed up at battlin’ “Bilys’” house and ragdolled him on his porch for spelling it wrong.. As Garth watched.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 4, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I call them soft sometimes

Except the ‘Stache. That mother chicken is crazy. I ain’t fucking with him.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 4, 2011 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, we know that much.

So please dont expect us to grouch out in order to please you, nnkay? Fair enough?

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Islander stalker...

Speak for yourself, you know, in between your WORSHIP of anything Islanders. ROFL!

by Battlin Bily on Oct 4, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

AND, here we go.

If this is what you are going to bring to this community, I vote for you to fuck off.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Real classy....

You have been a joke on these forums for years. Obsessed with Islander ass kissing. Seek help.

by Battlin Bily on Oct 4, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im done.

And Im sure youre done, too.

See you when you create your next name, “Bily”

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

further to the Declaration of Independence

The first sentence of the Declaration asserts as a matter of Natural law the ability of a people to assume political independence, and acknowledges that the grounds for such independence must be reasonable.73
 

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
 
The next section, the famous preamble, includes the ideas and ideals that were principles of the Declaration. It is also an assertion of what is known as the “right of revolution”: that is, people have certain rights, and when a government violates these rights, the people have the right to “alter or abolish” that government.74
 

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,75 that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
 
The next section is a list of charges against King George III, which aim to demonstrate that he has violated the colonists’ rights and is therefore unfit to be their ruler:76
 

Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
 He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good. He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them. He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only. He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures. He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people. He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within. He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands. He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers. He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries. He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance. He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures. He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power. He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation: For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us: For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States: For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world: For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury: For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies: For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments: For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever. He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us. He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people. He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation. He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands. He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions. In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
 Many Americans still felt a kinship with the people of Great Britain, and had appealed in vain to the prominent among them, as well as to Parliament, to convince the King to relax his more objectionable policies toward the colonies. The next section represents disappointment that these attempts had been unsuccessful.76
 

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
 
In the final section, the signers assert that there exist conditions under which people must change their government, that the British have produced such conditions, and by necessity the colonies must throw off political ties with the British Crown and become independent states. The conclusion incorporates language from Lee’s resolution of independence that had been passed on July 2.77
 

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

by Cary K on Oct 4, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Hey Hey!

No… I have no idea what you’re talking about.
(J/K) That was one of my favorite shows… I had a huge crush on Shirley Hemphill.

Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!

by JPinVA on Oct 4, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oooo, you're in troubbbbbble

I can’t rec this now from my phone, but a major thumbs up for What’s Happening? That’s awesome.

"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science

by PGI on Oct 4, 2011 10:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Throw the pumpkin at the tree

Unless you think that pumpkin holds your destiny.

by afrosupreme on Oct 5, 2011 6:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was in denial

But it happened…now acceptance (I guess). He’s another 35+ contract, so his cap hit will count no matter where he plays, so if we trade anyone, that helps, but on a whole, I don’t see where this helps…anywhere. Especially when there were waiver claims available with far more upside and comparable price tags.

NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Oct 4, 2011 5:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Maybe they are in Doug Weight Withdrawl...

I don’t know. Staios seemed like a better option than Mottau, but I can’t really explain the Pandolfo signing either. I’m still waiting to see if Garth picks up a player on waivers, perhaps a PA in defenseman form.

All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.

by pippup on Oct 4, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, the thing is

that if anyone in BPT is outperforming these guys, they may be pretty tough to get rid of…of course you can bury them in the AHL, or whatever, but they certainly don’t have trade value or anything. And even then, is that going to be a problem for the veteran players or for ice time in BPT?

It’s all wild ass speculation, but I guess one thing is for certain, they are going to take their time developing the kids, and they are aware of having depth…however shallow that depth is.

NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Oct 4, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

For some reason, I feel the Staios and Pandolfo signings is Garth showing that he is going to overdevelop the kids at the possible cost of some points this season.

I find it very hard to fathom that neither dehaan or donovan would do worse next to streit then staios would this season. And I can think of a list of players I would have preferred over pandolfo on the 4th line, even excluding “thugs/goons”(lol).

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 4, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

"either"

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 4, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could Not Agree More....

  OzzyFan, I could not agree more with your statements on Staios and Pandolfo. I got bashed a little on another blog here about the signing of Pandolfo, and I could not understand Garth’s reasoning. I would rather see other players than having us sign someone who has been out of hockey for a length of time (although 1 year is not alot, it is something….), and is also late in his playing career….

by Isles in NC on Oct 5, 2011 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

We need a logo

For Wild Ass Speculation.

Something along What Really Grinds My Gears. In fact, that gives me an idea…

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just because I fell like we're getting there...

NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Oct 4, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet.

This will come in handy.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lmao, that's hilarious.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 4, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Consider this masterpiece rec'd

My 7 year old daughter couldnt have even drawn something this awesome

<--waits for a COZO to start and then knows he has 30 seconds to run and grab another beer

by Chris McNally on Oct 4, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd under protest....

I had to rec it cause it made me really laugh… but I do not like this Michael Vick-esque depiction of the great Charlie Brown.

Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!

by JPinVA on Oct 4, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm

After closer examination of the available facts, I’ve realized that the “Snoopy” is an effigy! Several key giveaways: He is 4.7 times Snoopy’s volume, wrong make/model, he is the wrong color(that ripe scent is some unpicked pumpkins laying around just off camera to the right) and kind of has that stuffed animal look.

Snoopy is safe and sound asleep on his doghouse with his yellow feathered friends, free to pursue a life of religious fulfillment.

by Isles2011 on Oct 4, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then you’d probably never want to see the sow Dog Sees God

"Failing upwards! How come I can’t ever seem to do that?" - AP77 on Strang's ESPN Job
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by Mark D on Oct 5, 2011 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

hmm

Wild Ass Speculation” = Wasp?

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly what I was thinking, other then for cap reasons, this makes no sense.

We’ve seen around a handful of guys that have upside or bring solid 2-way performance to the 4th line pass through waivers, possible PAP-lites/Grabner-lites even. What the hell is Garth doing here? Because with all the IR people we have, the cap floor shouldn’t be much of a concern right now.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 4, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

starting to wonder

if he isn’t giving himself more trade flexibility this way somehow

by Cary K on Oct 4, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Possibly, but still, all these guys were better in the ahl last year then Pandolfo was last year:

-Ullstrom
-Rakhshani
-Colliton
-Dibenedetto

I really don’t see the need or even use for Pandolfo here besides cap assurance, which wasn’t looking like much of a problem recently given our IR list. Pandolfo was horrible the last year/2-years. And given what we’ve seen of him in the pre-season, hasn’t gotten any better.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 4, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

To play Devil's advocate

the Pandolfo signing gives the younger players one more year to mature in the AHL. At least there can’t be any Bailey laments that the Islanders have rushed young kids to the show too soon.

Lots of hockey media make a big deal about how the Redwings are able to develop talent, and one of the theories behind that is their ability to let the kids play a few years in the minors so when they come up to the NHL the adjustment period is as short as possible.

Now, I don’t know if this signing is intended to help in that way, or if it will help at all, but that is my one theory as why they signed Pandalfo.

by Jones79 on Oct 4, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still, there were better outside the team waiver options if you wanted to give everyone another ahl year(which imo wasn't needed for Rakh/Ullstrom/Colliton or Dibo given his role).

Pandolfo was a mediocre ahler for the time he was playing there last year. There were a lot of better options out there.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 4, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get it either

but if Ullstrom and/or Dibenedetto start dominating at the AHL, perhaps it will have been worth it?

I still think our 4th line may be Dibenedetto-Ullstrom-Haley at some point this season

still don’t particularly get why it isn’t

by Cary K on Oct 4, 2011 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think were lending to much though to the assumption

that Pandolfo is going to play the full year. Chances are he plays the first month or so till everyones healthy and then they waive him and he plays for BPT, same thing probably goes for Staois. Its a 1 year contract, that doesnt mean hes actually going to play the full year on the island

"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992

by Zhora on Oct 4, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with this.

I think Pandolfo ends up in the AHL after either poor performance or suffering an injury. As we saw last year, it isn’t necessarily a bad thing to have extra NHL bodies. Everyone (including people here) criticized the team for being full of AHL talent even when they were playing well in the second half.

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Oct 4, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Soft Spot for Americans?

Anyone else think Garth may have a soft spot for Americans….particularly from the Northeast area? Guerin, Weight, Gordon, Capuano, Pandolfo, Dunham, Rolston. I dunno…just a thought.

by JPinNYC on Oct 4, 2011 9:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Weight is American.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant Northeast

Weight’s the only one from this list that’s not from the Northeast, or has Northeast ties (i.e. College attended)

by JPinNYC on Oct 4, 2011 10:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Point taken :)

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soft spot for collegians as well

/lights Rosen candle

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by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm so excited!!!

Yeah right….rolling eyes

by KO21 on Oct 4, 2011 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Interesting.

In sort of a ‘why is this guy being signed’ way.

For those of you who watched the pre-season games, was he really THAT GOOD?

by Frosty628 on Oct 4, 2011 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

STROME AGREES TO TERMS ON ENTRY LEVEL DEAL WITH ISLANDERS

reports TSN Bob McKenzie…..does this mean he has to stay with the big club? Isn’t he too young for the AHL?

by NHL fan on Oct 4, 2011 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

No, he doesn't have to stay with the big club

They could send him back to juniors as of right now.

by Francesca on Oct 4, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

There are a few minor reasons you might sign him now even if you don't intend to play him now

One is earnest — get him his signing bonus now and make him feel better about going back to juniors. Another, if you’re so inclined, is the prorated portion of that signing bonus actually applies to the cap now even if you defer his career by a year (or two). A third is if you’d like to hold out the opportunity of calling him up after his junior season is over later this season.

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by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Super Excited About Ryan Strome.

Now put him in Bridgeport and dont even think about bringing him up until 2013!

by IslesFanForLife on Oct 4, 2011 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington

by Pauly C on Oct 4, 2011 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not wearing any pants

Film at 11.

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by Fabtraption on Oct 4, 2011 5:34 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Kentucky fried movie was so awesome.

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Oct 4, 2011 6:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Looking on the bright side

1) Pandolfo’s career +/- is pretty good

2) he understands the need to play a two way game – we need to max that attitude

3) would imagine he & Rolston have played together (stats anyone?)

4) he can PK – that’s a good thing

5) a good message to other FA vets – if you give the Islanders a shot, you have a good chance of a job – could be useful in attracting others down the road

on the downside though, I would rather have seen any of these 3 on the team

Haley-Ullstrom-DiBenedetto

and I don’t see how to justify that any of these 3 don’t belong – they can indeed all improve in Bridgeport and are available as needed of course

and I suspect Cizikas will be up at some point as well

Strome & Kabanov may also get some games

but really, Pandolfo? a bit puzzling, but I’ll accept it and move on – I guess

by Cary K on Oct 4, 2011 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Depth and Experience

2 things we severely lacked last year..Maybe Cap & Snow are hedging their bets for the first few weeks against a team that still has few defined leaders from last year. Many vets were UFA and went somewhere else. We need that presence on and off the ice.

by IslesFanForLife on Oct 4, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

But what more experience do we need on wing? Reasoner is a vet, Nielsen is a vet, our defense is full of vets.

Vets don’t equal wins, we don’t need the senior citizens of the NHL to fill in for depth while taking starting spots. Staios and Pandolfo have been sub par nhlers for 2yrs+, what does garth think they can add to the team other then take up space and a roster spot? We aren’t even talking guerin and weight caliber old players here, we are talking ex-mediocre nhlers.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 4, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Isles are serious about the playoffs...

someone with 131 career playoff games (even on 3rd and 4th lines) is good to have in the locker room!

and then there was none.... impact free-agents or arena deals....

by Figgybaum on Oct 4, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I disagree with this.

They said last year the playoffs were the goal, and they’re better this year. The only weakness right now for this team, IMO, is the blueline. They are going to score tons of goals, and someone should be able to shore up the goaltending. If the D can stay healthy and be average or close to average, I see no reason why the playoffs can’t be the goal this year.

by Metzfan22 on Oct 4, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe in the locker room

but not on the ice. He’s washed up and doesn’t bring anything particularly useful to the table.

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by ArsenalLI on Oct 4, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldnt say irrelevant, but as a whole its definitely overrated.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 5, 2011 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its one of those things that sounds like its nice to have but probably actually translates to

no extra wins in a given season. I’d take a skilled rookie over an unskilled veteren any day of the week- on ice talent IMO is 99.9% of what wins you game.

by MatthewM11 on Oct 5, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it sets a good example.

Work your ass off, get a spot. You won’t get a spot just because of your prospect status. You have to keep earning it.

If Ullstrom and Rakh and Cizikas and Dibo see the effort it takes to earn a spot like Pandolfo did maybe it’s a good lesson.

Then at end of the day, Pandolfo plays 4th line minutes and eventually can be waived. The other guys play their ass off in the AHL and force the Isles to kick Pandolfo out.

I think this is the only way to justify the move and I think I’m down with it.

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by Pauly C on Oct 4, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think thats a good way of looking at this, Pauly.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do think there's value in that

Whatever their talents, these guys aren’t robots who perform at a consistent level all the time. Carrots and kicks in the ass are occasionally warranted.

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by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point

I don’t see it as such a bad thing either. If he doesn’t work out then bring someone up

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by Rickfansince76 on Oct 5, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pandolfo was terrible his last two years.

His +/- was the product of playing on a good team.

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by garik16 on Oct 4, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+/- is a misleading stat for this reason

You really have to know a player’s team, his linemates and his role for +/- to have any validy IMO.

by MatthewM11 on Oct 5, 2011 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

From a young rebuilding team.......

to the house team of an old age home. Maybe Weight is making the decisions At least John Sim could hit, Well Jay can reminence with Staios. I’d rather have Wishart and Haley playing, at least they have possibilities in the future. If these two guys have regular shifts, it means we don’t have much of a club, fraid to say this is not a play-off lineup.

by altosax on Oct 4, 2011 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

hmmmm

thinking maybe there is a Rolston / Pandolfo connection

check this out from 2 years ago

http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2009/09/brian_rolston_and_jay_pandolfo.html

the non Lemaire factor perhaps was an issue here – perhaps

by Cary K on Oct 4, 2011 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

from 1998

Rolston & Pandolfo on the Devils checking line…

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/01/10/sports/hockey-devils-beat-the-worst-and-first-is-theirs.html

we said we didn’t have enough defense….

by Cary K on Oct 4, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

suggests 3rd & 4th lines

Comeau-Reasoner-(one of Strome/Kabanov/Frischmon)

Rolston-Bailey-Pandolfo

by Cary K on Oct 4, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for digging up some great articles

It makes me wonder if a John Madden signing is far behind.

So Rolston and Pandolfo have a connection, they have experience on a winning team and know, as older vets, how to deal with losses, they can lead by example, and take the dirty assignments. Plus they’re big bodies who can work hard in the corners and keep some of the smaller, skilled guys protected, or at the very least, trouble the oppositions smaller, skilled guys.

If signing Pandolfo helps the Isles make the post-season then I am all for it, even if the likes of Haley and Ullstrom, and Rahk have to ride the bus, and the ferry for a while longer.

by Jones79 on Oct 4, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy cow

That’s a generic enough name I had to think about it a while.

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by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh man, I finally read the article

Didn’t realize Bobby Carpenter actually got a mention there too, ha!

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by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry

There was no way I knew who played on Devil lines in the 90s without reading the article. But it boggles the mind that the Islanders are bringing two of them back together 13 years later.

by Paumanok on Oct 5, 2011 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

POINT BLANK EXCLUSIVE

ESPN’s Scott Burnside reported on Twitter that the Islanders will release Micheal Haley, Matt Martin and Ty Wishart and sign former Devils winger Kryzsztof Oliwa.

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by PGI on Oct 4, 2011 10:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You got me with this one, I only figured it out when I saw Martin’s name.

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by Mark D on Oct 5, 2011 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

The minute one of these posts becomes fact

is the day I stop writing them.

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by PGI on Oct 5, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

These moves scream of one thing to me

Bigger contracts! I know the coaches and management see these guys day in and day out during practice and we dont, but from the games Pandolfo and Staios didn’t anything more than some of the younger options that we thought we’d see on the team 3 weeks ago. They seemed to be up to speed with the competition but did nothing to stand out above the rest of the younger competition. So I wonder if signing these guys had something to do with the cap floor. I realize we all do our math by going to CapGeek, but maybe there was something we were missing and the Isles wanted the bigger contracts they signed these 2 vets to as opposed to the lesser moeny one of the younger guys wouldve made.

If not I can’t understand the move. Its got to be a shot to these young guys confidences to say “Not only were you not good enough to make the team, but these too fogeys we picked up off the scrap heap were actually better than you were”

<--waits for a COZO to start and then knows he has 30 seconds to run and grab another beer

by Chris McNally on Oct 4, 2011 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Yea

I agree with this. Trying to build up a buffer regarding the cap floor.

by afrosupreme on Oct 4, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes

It’s better to not stand out then to make glaring errors?

Or maybe Snow looked at the team and realized how few vet players he had and wanted to balance it out?

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by Mark D on Oct 5, 2011 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

So I guess Martin and Haley are both starting in Bridgeport?

That leaves:

Tavares
Moulson
Okposo
Nielsen
Grabner
Niederreiter
Parenteau
Comeau
Bailey
Reasoner
Rolston
Pandolfo

with Gillies as the scratch. Maybe Martin gets a chance while Nino is hurt, but I would rather have seen Martin or Haley on that 4th line than Pandolfo..

by Metzfan22 on Oct 4, 2011 5:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, Niederreiter may start on IR

So we’ll see. Not a reach to expect there will be others on IR by the time he comes off.

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by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I would rather see Martin as well

The kid gave his all last year. It is it like he is getting punished for nothing.

by Battlin Bily on Oct 4, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s still a kid tho…. I also think he gave his all, and I think that being in BPT (if it happens at all) might even feel like a punishment of sorts for a moment- but all it would do is help him developmentally.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 5, 2011 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

If going to BPT makes him feel punished, he needs a reality check and attitude ajustment

because he shown neither the offense or defense to be in the NHL. The second you start making roster decisions based on “who gave it there all” instead of talent is rhe second this team falls apart. I’ve read other posts about how Bailey “deserves” consistent linemates, ice-time, only playing center etc. This isn’t the boy scouts, and you don’t reward a kid just for showing up and working hard, and nobody is entitled to anything.

by MatthewM11 on Oct 5, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Reality check, yeah.
Attitude adjustment? Nah- nothing wrong with a kid yearning to be up with the big club IMO.

The way I see it, Martin HAS shown that he can play in the NHL. I just think that he could develop and show a lot more.

If he is sent down, there will be a lot of sad young Isles fans out there… Martin seems particularly popular with the kiddies.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 5, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im actually ok with Martin starting in BPT

It gives him a chance to log top 6 minutes and find that scoring touch he had in juniors, especially the year after Stamkos left the Sarnia team. As much as i loved the fact that he would fight, if he could find a way to get that scoring touch and keep his physicality it would be even better in my opinion than him only being able to play a one dimensional game as a 4th liner

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by DarthDoyle on Oct 4, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Haley>Pandolfo

I’ve said this before but I think Haley has the Steve Webb factor where he gets the team and crowd excited.

Pandolfo can be put on the PK? So what? We already have Nielsen, Grabner, Martin, Okposo, Reasoner, and Bailey who could also work PK duty.

Pandolfo will be a liability just as much as Haley would have, except he doesn’t bring any X factor to the table. I think this the first time I’ve really been scratching my head with an Islanders roster decision by Garth.

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by ArsenalLI on Oct 4, 2011 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I would prefer to give that 4th line spot

to a tough kid like Haley or DiBo. Afraid we are going to be a little soft again, just as I was enjoying not seeing our talent get mashed around last year.

At least the spot went to a guy with a few cup rings, so maybe the glass is half full.

by randyboyd on Oct 4, 2011 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing

Most of our “goons” wont be playing every night. I would have liked to see Haley stay up just because he brings the toughness and can probably put some points up

by nyidangle17 on Oct 4, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didnt think Pandolfo was going to be signed

I guess it alright, I trust that Snow made the right move. But looking at the forward lines, where does Nino fit in? Also very happy to see that Strome got signed.

by nyidangle17 on Oct 4, 2011 6:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Nino still fits in fine.

JT-Moulson-Nino, FnGO, Comeau-Bailey-Parenteau, Rolston-Reasoner-Parenteau. What it means is that Martin, Haley, Ullstrom, DiBo, etc. all start in Bridgeport. But when Nino gets off the IR, there’s still room for him.

by Metzfan22 on Oct 4, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

From Strome

Such an exciting day for my family, friends and myself. But remember to treat everyday like it’s your last, RIP Lukas #onemoreforschueder

NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Oct 4, 2011 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Devils just traded Steckel to Toronto

Figured you’d want to keep him around to scream “BOO” at Crosby 6 times a year, but I guess not.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 4, 2011 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

figures

the Leafs suck

now they can suck some more

by Cary K on Oct 4, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd :)

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by Zhora on Oct 4, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cappy says the darndest things

"I thought Nino was playing extremely well right up until those exhibition games," Capuano said. "It’s just unfortunate, especially for him, as a young guy who had a chance — maybe still has a chance, I don’t know — but obviously the injury set him back a little bit."

Um…so he pulled his groin and now he may not make the team???

by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Oct 4, 2011 7:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Reading between the lines.

It appears that in all likelihood Nino is going back to Portland. Pondolfo’s and Strome’s signings help Snow reach the floor if Nino is shipped back to juniors. I think Strome gets his 9 games and goes back to Niagra. I’m more curious about what they do with Kabanov?

by O.Bender on Oct 4, 2011 7:59 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions   2 recs

Actually

it sounds like his play in the exhibition games might have cost him more than the injury.

by afrosupreme on Oct 4, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I thought he looked solid

But I agree that Cappy sure sounds like Nino may be sent to Portland. This bit from the team blog supports this:

Missing this last week of camp has been upsetting for the rookie winger. He’s currently unsure of his place on the team this year and said he hasn’t had conversations with General Manager Garth Snow or Head Coach Jack Capuano.

"I still don’t know if I am going to stay here or not," Niederreiter said. "It’s just not easy (sitting out). I would have liked to have another week to show that I am ready."I would warn against overreading as there have been some strange quotes from Cappy before.

by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Oct 4, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The last time I checked Capgeek

was after Wishart was sent down and Staios was signed. I moved Nino off the roster and it put us under the cap by about 2 million.

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by Mark D on Oct 5, 2011 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I am scratching my head a bit about the Pandolfo signing

but I agree with the person who said that its possible that Pandolfo becomes an easy piece to move when one of the kids gets called up for playing so well

I dont think the signing is going to keep us out of the playoffs, 1 guy cant do that IMO; especially if he is on the 4th line.

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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Oct 4, 2011 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

What's so disheartening?

I think it’s ridiculous to be disheartened by a largely unimportant signing. Considering the way injuries ravage this team, the extra man power could prove to be beneficial. It could also prove to get in the way of watching exciting young talent fly around the ice. Those are the risks you take.

Just to make sure to draw my line in the sand: I don’t actually like the Pandolfo signing.

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Oct 4, 2011 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not just Pandolfo (and Staios)

I was hoping that Wishart or one of the young D prospects would have a knock-your-socks-off camp and would have made the roster. Not that they had bad camps (putting aside Wishart) and I realize that BPT is the right place for them.

I was also hoping Nino would start on opening night but Cappy’s quote above sounds like that may not happen.

by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Oct 4, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nino is hurt thats why and we could easily see Wishart in the NHL this season

just because they start in the AHL does not mean they will stay there

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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Oct 4, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I understand. Wishart’s waiving was his own doing. Nino will be in the NHL, I’m sure of it. He’s injured now and we’ll see what happens after the season opens. The days drag on when you know the season is within grasp. The instant access to information hasn’t trained us to be patient and remember that time moves at a fixed rate while information is variable. Chin up. I think the season will be exciting. Watch old clips of Cairns beating the shit out of Corson to get your fix.

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Oct 4, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nino is projected by most reviews, predictions, and critics to be a calder candidate.

by mdesarmo on Oct 4, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strange

But let’s withhold judgement for a while…

by Paumanok on Oct 4, 2011 7:16 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm confused

is it:

Don’t (Panic and Carry On)

or

(Don’t Panic) and (Carry On)

"..."

by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on Oct 4, 2011 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Explanation

If former, then “carry on” = “scream and cry”. Either way it works…

by Paumanok on Oct 4, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was cut off at the end

It’s supposed to be: Don’t Panic-And-Carry On Sundays.

All other days are fair game. Drink and Drive is still discouraged on all seven days.

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by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

PK may be the reason

If the Isles have Grabner, Reasoner, Bailey, Comeau, and now Pandolfo (and probably Okposo) to do the bulk of the penalty killing, the signing may have freed Franz up to be on the 1st PP unit. If that is the case, I am all for it. Pandolfo looked like he could keep up with the rest of the guys Saturday…. I wonder if Rolston suggested Isles should give Pandolfo a look.

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 4, 2011 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

You forgot Nielsen on that PK list. I doubt we take away one of our best PKers in Nielsen off the PK so he can get more PP time.

I really don’t see Pandolfo doing much on our team.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 4, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nielsen

was extremely effective on the PP v the Devils

he can’t do everything

we’ll he can, but you know what I mean

by Cary K on Oct 4, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, Cary, no, I don't know what you mean.

Care to elaborate? Choose your words very carefully, my friend. One never know when Frans is listening….

by Les Beaver on Oct 4, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Another smart move by Snow.

Look, we don’t want to lose hockey games because we have to give 15 minutes per game of ice time to AHL guys that aren’t even fringe NHLers. Pandolfo is better than DiBo, Frischmon, and everyone else at BPT who is healthy right now. With Nino, Rakhshani, Colliton all hurt we don’t have a better option right now. It would be really great to get off to a good start to generate excitement for this season. Garth has made another smart move.

by TMS71 on Oct 4, 2011 7:59 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I hope so

Of course I’m not so sure. But this is a case where I have to defer to their two weeks of watching all of the above rather than my yearning for ripe prospects and doubting the old men based on a few minutes of play over a web stream.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

incarceratedbob says

via Twitter

UPDATED NHL INFOSource: Islanders Coaches & Snow been in discussions all day today (Trade or waiver wire pickup possibly coming)

by Cary K on Oct 4, 2011 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Nah

they are meeting to figure out what move more than any would cause the most scrutiny amongst Islander fans

James T Paulson

by Jtpdolphins2009 on Oct 4, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Why

does anyone give this guy any credibility? This is about the fifth time he has said this since July.

by afrosupreme on Oct 5, 2011 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

his track record isn’t that bad the last time we checked.

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by Mark D on Oct 5, 2011 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

So he's gooo-oo-oo-oo-d?

Ow-ow-owowowow.

/Spelling the chorus of their one hit FAIL

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by PGI on Oct 5, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ullstrom-kabonov-nino
haley-Czikas-Martin

those could round out the bottom 6 next season. problem lies…where do we put frans? Does Strome inevitably replace him next season? or do we sign frans long term? we have too many players at certain positions. I think theyd be dumb to trade young guns like kabonov and nino. imagine a line of ullstrom-nino-and kabonov as your #3 behind grabs-frans-and okie.

looks like we have some depth we can utilize for a trade at a defensemen of some quality.

by mdesarmo on Oct 4, 2011 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I might be mistaken

but isn’t Reasoner signed next year too?

by Isle in Topanga on Oct 4, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is

Garth signed him to a 2 year contract this summer.

All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.

by pippup on Oct 4, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reasoner's signed

And Strome could easily end up on a wing.

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by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It appears the GM has it ...

in his head that this team still needs at least one “old” guy to be an example and veteran guide to winning ways. He’s followed this intuition consistently but so far has yet to hit on a guy for that role who also can still play the game.
Maybe this time.

by dose on Oct 4, 2011 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

nice point

and a good reminder that intangibles play such a huge role in this game, and when someone can play a regular shift and be an example they are worth signing, especially on a young team.

Too many rebuilds have been lost on a lack of patience coupled with leaning on the youngsters too heavily to fill all the roles, like you said, maybe this is the guy for that role.

by Jones79 on Oct 4, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pandolfo replaces Ullstrom in BPT

That’s the only way this makes sense. I really can’t see any other reason for it.
Nino is going back to Portland. Wthin two weeks Ullstrom will be in the NHL either playing with Comeau and Bailey, or Martin and Reasoner. Pandolfo will give BPT kinda what Sim did last year, a veteran NHL forward that can help create offense… or at least create a minor bit of exxcitement when the fans see you in a local gas station.
“Hey, I think that’s Jay Pandolfo”
“Was he in the Soprano’s?
“No you idiot, he was a Devil”
“Really? Like with a pitchfork and horns?”
“No.. a NEW JERSEY DEVIL?”
“Oooooh… like Snookie!”
“Yeah… whatever… did you need gas or did you just stop for the Mountan Dew and a slim jim?”

That team can use a few NHL vets to help show them how to play cards on the bus, where the best strip joints are, and how to see every movie at the multiplex for one admission.
Besides, they need somebody down there who can afford to pick up a tab once in a while.

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by JPinVA on Oct 4, 2011 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Ouch.

Mentioning Pandolfo and Snookie in the same post? What did he ever do to you?

Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.

by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Oct 4, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

More like he's old, doesn't project very high (and hasn't ever), and there's a lot of other fresh bodies ahead of him.

Unless he switches to wing, there’s no room for him in the foreseeable future. Logjam.

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by garik16 on Oct 5, 2011 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like it but I get it

I think Pandolfo is here for a few weeks or months until the AHL season is about one-third done. Then we’ll see a young guy or two come up after getting a chance to excel and get some more confidence. That’s the same reason I see Staios. After about 25-30 AHL games Ness or deHaan or Donovan – whichever is playing best may come up. Better to get a few more months of quality time than sporadic fourth line or 7th defense minutes. Eventually it’ll be Nino and pick-a-Kirill and Strome. Pandolfo has the same future as disco.

I’d like to see Strome and Kabanov get one game just to feel good and then go back to juniors. Next year they’ll be up with the Isles.

Is it Saturday yet?

by martylnd on Oct 4, 2011 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I'll carry that line of thought for a second

Further to it, Bridgeport is thin — like no extra bodies thin. So…better to add organizational depth at the top (or middle) of the depth chart rather than at the bottom of the AHL? Maybe?

I wonder if these tryouts also have a Sim-ish MOU where, if things aren’t working out, and they really don’t wanna ride the bus anymore, they’re welcome to let their agent find a mid-season landing spot in Europe.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Im thinking along those lines, too.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's one guy I would have liked us to consider over Pandolfo

Steve Bernier http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/3354/career;_ylt=Ap2hDmoNqYTsQMAFahu.KfZivLYF

esp if we are short RW

Devils didn’t sign him, he’s available

Pandolfo or Bernier? Pandolfo?

by Cary K on Oct 4, 2011 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Tempting

But man does he keep disappointing at every stop.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does he have real 4th line experience though?

I’m asking because I don’t know; thought they always tried to make him a scorer at each stop. (Granted, sometimes guys who can’t be forced into being scorers make the best role players.)

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I couldn't find any 4th line experience, but he doesn't look like someone who couldn't produce decently given the circumstances.

He is no “checker”, as it looks, but he is a big physcial forward with some scoring potential and upside. Wouldn’t mind that on the 4th line.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 5, 2011 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

BUT Im the one he obviously had a problem with, and Im not the one who said anything mean to him until he was already being a dick to me. I didnt see him telling everyone else they are stupid, obsessed, etc.- including the people who had a problem with him in the first place.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cut the shit TMC

you forget we can see how these things evolve? Please, you’ve helped to flame a few of these on lately. In actuality, that started with YOU flaming mordred and then Bily flaming you and then you taking it personally. If you can’t take it, don’t dish it.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 4, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

flaming him?

I didnt notice where I was calling Morded an idiot, a stalker, telling him to shut up, he is obsessed, quit posting, etc. I didnt notice doing that to anyone, ever. But- if you want to point it out, by ALL MEANS, go right ahead!

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here
You are pretty confident when it comes to negativity.
In all fairness, I didnt take you for the Miss Cleo type.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 3, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

Unlike you…

Some us cannot actually face the reality of this team.

by Battlin Bily on Oct 4, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions

Oh Please.

Another one who wants to talk about his opinion of ME instead of hockey?
Newsflash: Nobody give a flying shit what you think of me. Including me.
Stick to hockey talk, "Bily".

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Did you not realize that this happens sometimes? Look, to be honest, the specific capitalization of words fo emphasis and the sporadic cursing when in a conflicted disagreement comes off as adding to a situation.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 4, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats me making a Miss Cleo joke- which I have done lots of times, and its never been a problem.
I said other things to him, like asking about his name- which he ignored.
Then I am told that I cannot face reality (among other things)
And after reading them I asked him not to talk about ME and to stick to hockey- because nobody gives a shit what he or anyone else thinks about me. Seriously- you disagree? I dont need to do a poll to know I am right on that!

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean this?
Now that I have read your posts

I have come to the conclusion that you just spelled "Billy" wrong… which, coupled with your posts, speaks volumes.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

You don’t see why someone would be offended by that? You’re surprised that he would insult you? I think you should think about that. Also note, I wasn’t singling you out. That was a general comment to a lot of people that got involved in that.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 5, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Look at the time that post was made, Keith.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 5, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I see

but you guys bounced all over the thread to bust each other’s chops. I hear you, but I think you need to take a little inventory on how that went down is all I’m saying.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 5, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really don't belong in this conversation..

… but I can’t resist. Mordred spelled his own screen name wrong in the title of his Fan Post. I so wanted to call him on that….
I’ll hang up, and listen for your reply….
RattledinRichmond

Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!

by JPinVA on Oct 5, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Yeah, I hear that

Stiletto’d in St. Louis.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 5, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also note, I wasn’t singling you out. That was a general comment to a lot of people that got involved in that.

Glad to hear that… the “Cut the shit TMC” comment didnt make that super clear. :)

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 5, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

THAT IS AWESOME!!!

I can’t believe I haven’t seen that before.

Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!

by JPinVA on Oct 5, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This is so full of win.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Oct 5, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know

Much better than the deer eating pocorn, I’m shocked people like that more. maybe they have seen this?

The first time I saw this, I think i watched it for ten minutes just laughing the whole time.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 5, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

The deer is cute

but the popcorn is Photoshopped.

This has hockey and just an amazing finish.

Don’t worry, I’m gunna help get ya green.

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by Fabtraption on Oct 5, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

For me it was just

I’d already seen the Colaiacovo a bunch of times because I watch the Blues a lot, and he tends to find injury mishaps a lot. “Sploda Bones.”

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 5, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too!

It’s not every day a gif makes me think, “Genius!”

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 5, 2011 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 5, 2011 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Come on

The “cut the shit TMC” comment came when exactly? After you wanted to make it about the specific interactions between you and him right?

The very first initial post (of mine), to the best of my recollection, did not have your name in it. It is above and it is green if you’d like to reread it.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 5, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Come on? COME ON???????

OK, you got pretty upset from that- not my intention.
(cue TMC ‘cutting the shit’)

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 5, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know :)

And honestly, I hope you’re not taking this personally because I would be having this conversation with anyone else under similar circumstances.

Where is that damn dead horse when you need it???

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 5, 2011 12:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

It appears he has a problem with a few...

…but it’s harder for us to sort out from multiple threads when people are piling on. We have to try to figure out how much was them coming off on the wrong foot and how much was them being egged on by their initial reception.

I think I know what’s up here, but we try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt first. When someone comes off wrong, easier to give them a longer leash by asking them to explain first, then see what they do with it. (That said, I notice our buddy has been on the attack in multiple threads. So we’ll see.)

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

We have to try to figure out how much was them coming off on the wrong foot and how much was them being egged on by their initial reception.

This is definitely not an easy thing to do.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The internet is in ink!

Well said Keith. I know that I have often gone back to some old posts of my own and thought, "Jeez, did I really type that?
I couldn’t agree more. We’ve become a bit of an incestuous bunch. We have built something here that is all warm and fuzzy and we want to protect it… but that’s not how it got that way.
If you ignore the “I need to say something, but I can’t really support an idea” posts they will evolve, or they will disappear like the dinosaurs. If they evolve we’ll have more contributors contributing gems that will make this season a little better. They’ll evolve by reading the incredible material offered by Dom and his knights of the lighthouse, and the the conversations that they provoke.

Dom and the guys have done a great job moderating so far… let’s keep it that way.

Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!

by JPinVA on Oct 4, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Thanks JP

Better put even. I know I broke Ozzy’s balls in the DP thread to some degree…we all have those moments, but we all have more history to take those things with a grain of salt. But we could also at some point chase some decent people away accidentally because their first posting is a little of.

Personally, I think when I first posted here I was a little freaked out about sounding like an idiot because I had never posted anything online before…pair that with the amount of knowledge of the game that some people have here and it can be a pretty intimidating place…The newbies are going to freak a little.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 4, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

But we could also at some point chase some decent people away accidentally because their first posting is a little of.
The newbies are going to freak a little.

Those are good points.
 
The next time someone goes off on me within their first couple of posts as if they have inexplicably known or fought with me for years on end, I am just going to post and ask them “Please stop talking about me, lets stick to hockey.” Sound good?

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 5, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd prefer it not get to that point on either side

but you seem to be missing the point, so if that’s as good as it gets, sure.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 5, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, so would I- that IS the point.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 5, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by garik16 on Oct 5, 2011 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

JP- as you know from back in the Topix days, Ive had my share of personal trolls. I definitely notice when someone brand new acts like they know me online and starts saying stupid shit about me. But youre right, I should just let them burn themselves out on it.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 5, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

My intent here...

was not to pile on. This is an assumption, but I don’t think you have to defend yourself here. You’ve been making sense for a long time… a ridiculous comment here and there can’t change that.
A good friend used to say, “never argue with an idiot, he can’t get to your level, and when you descend to his you both lose”
I’m not sure if he was giving me advise, or letting me know why people don’t argue with me.

Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!

by JPinVA on Oct 5, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

"Personal Trolls"

Does this count? While we’re all getting open and honest, you know I have this recurring dream… We’re sitting in two seperate apartments, both watching an Islander playoff game. In my apartment they’re playing the flyers… and kicking ass… in yours they are playing whatever team Sean Bergenheim is playing for at the time. We are both on LHH…
TheMetalChick: show me your FIG
JPinVA: you know I wanna be in your scapewagon
TheMetalChick: rec me, baby
JPinVA: ooooooh yeah… make it green mama!
then sean scores on the Islanders….so now you got a headache and I gotta go take a cold shower because francesca is in the wrong time zone…

Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!

by JPinVA on Oct 5, 2011 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

*hysterical* lol

Id rather do the rec-ing :)
But then you had to go and ruin the hockey mood by saying that Sean scored one of his annual 20 something regular season points. :-/

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 5, 2011 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

there goes my marriage...

you’re a home rec’er!

Just a warning… I’m just a typical man… once I go green I roll over and go to sleep.

Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!

by JPinVA on Oct 5, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well, I didn't mean for my beer to go out my nose

But sometimes there is collateral damage to reading a comment from the mind of JP.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 5, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Sadly it has to tough being a women following a hockey team on the internet....

Too many internet trolls trying to be tough guys by being anonymous. I doubt they would be so tough in person.

by NHL fan on Oct 5, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's right man! "Let's meet in person before you verbally attack me! That way I can hit you when you say something demeaning or stupid!" lol

I’ve learned this many years ago, words are words are nothing meant fighting over, only with extreme exceptions.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 5, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you've had a lot of "fans" recently to say the least. lol

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 5, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I am not talking about getting into a fight....

I am talking about how being anonymous makes it easy to attack others, but when face to face the bravado goes out the window

by NHL fan on Oct 5, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

That happens everywhere online- to everyone.

Did you guys see the hate that was being spewed at poor Eric Nystrom recently after that icing injury?
I felt terrible for him. But you know that most oif not all of the people who were being so hateful to him, if they met him in person, would be shaking his hand and getting a pic with him.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 5, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

yeah well I can only hope in general that that kind of fandom turns into something more like raging indifference. :)

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 5, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i don't think that centre will ever be tim connelly

not saying either are puck hogs, but both connelly and kessel like to carry/control the puck

by CanadianIsleslifer on Oct 6, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man she didn't wig out over little things.

Bily started attacking her for basically being optimistic. He said she was making all Islanders fans look stupid and that she should stop posting because of that. Basically she just wasn’t the typical IPB poster with ‘we suck’ , we’re a joke’, ‘everything about us sucks’ and Bily didn’t like the cognitive dissonance so he attacked her. We did nothing wrong letting him know that we don’t go about things that way around here.

by TMS71 on Oct 5, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whelp, Bily seems to have posted a bit since this happened- and from what Ive seen, he is not being a jerk.
Thats good enough for me.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 5, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Listen while I reiterate this

I addressed everyone who participated in that nonsense and only engaged TMC beyond that because she chose to try to justify some things…as you and M11 are now. Basically, the guy popped off something negative that nobody liked, and a bunch of people jumped all over him.

I wasn’t a fan of what he said either, but if you can’t see how something like that evolves, you need to take a step back. Don’t give me the knight in shining armor stuff. There were people all over him before he even engaged her. But many people engaged in a bit of overpersonalizing in this thread. If you think calling someone negative and busting their balls about spelling and basically calling them stupid is any less personal than what he and she engaged in, you’re wrong…and it becomes more personal when it is a group participating in it.

Get over the IPB thing. Nobody knows who he is just like he doesn’t know the lay of the land here. I’m just saying that there are sometimes better ways of communicating how we do things here than having us turn our own comment section into IPB’s just to protect it.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 5, 2011 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are right that personal attacks have no place here

At the risk of further justifying, I will say that when I entered that conversation most of it was already written, and I misinterpreted the time-line and who started what. Knowing the proper time-line puts things in an entirely different perspective.

by MatthewM11 on Oct 6, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course, absolutely

and I’m sure others do that…and I’ve even been guilty of it. I loved yesterday when Garik accidentally jumped down Webbard/Mark D.s throat and had to backtrack a bit…everybody just needs to take a breath for a second sometimes.

Trust me, as a recovering loose cannon, nothing bad happens from taking that breath!

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 6, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

One more thing. The place means a lot to all of us who post here all the time.

That’ s why we don’t want to see it become like the IPB comments section. What do you think we were doing? We were protecting our turf. If Bily wants to come back and be reasonable, and avoid the personal attacks, and make well-reasoned posts, he’ll be welcomed with open arms. He was the new guy and he barged in and started attacking people. He didn’t even try to get the feel of the place or be a bit diplomatic before getting to know the lay of the land. Its on him. He can come back and behave himself if he wants to. Was he banned? I don’t even think so – he just left.

by TMS71 on Oct 5, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should have started a predict the first game thread a while ago.

Everybody guessing how the game goes play by play, goal by goal, pass by pass, etc. That would have kept us very busy until Saturday.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 5, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

personally...

i’m not a fan of pandolfo. never liked him on the devils. think he’s overrated, but i hope i eat my own words since i’d rather see success from my hockey team. anyone know how much he makes from this signing? hopefully under 1 mil?

i’d like to see strome get the 9-game tryout. most of this years draft class is playing, and i’d like to see an islander get in the running for a calder trophy again since grabner fell short last season (still proud of the gremlin).

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- Steve Zissou

by gukid17 on Oct 5, 2011 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Staple says he will make $570K

StapeNewsday Arthur Staple
Also news that’s been out for a bit on #Isles: Jay Pandolfo signs a 1-year deal, believe it to be for near vet minimum of $570K

by Francesca on Oct 5, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

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A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.

1982-83


May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.

Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.


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