P.M. Bits: Islanders Roster Narrows as Niederreiter, Gillies Join IR Brigade
by Dominik on Oct 3, 2011 6:43 PM EDT
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The news of the day from the resumption of Islanders camp was Nino Niederreiter (groin) and Trevor Gillies (groin) being placed on Injured Reserve. Gillies' injury is news; Niederreiter had nursed the groin issue since leaving Friday's preseason game early, so this is a prudent move.
Both in effect narrow the Islanders roster further in terms of who is still around opening night: Going on IR now means missing the first week of the season [edit: Scratch that. Just saw these IR placements are "retroactive" to Sept. 30, so presumably the clock started then. That doesn't mean they have to be taken off in 7 days though, obviously -- just that they can.]. If you revisit our depth chart from Sunday's cuts, that means there is room for incumbent Matt Martin, newcomer Trevor Frischmon, and even unsigned tryout Jay Pandolfo (if you also cut the eigth defenseman).
That's also assuming junior kids Ryan Strome (who doesn't have a contract) and Kirill Kabanov (who does) are also left behind, and that Brian Rolston's (a fellow sufferer of groinus achus) recovery is for real:
Forwards (16)
Injured Reserve: Jeremy Colliton, Rhett Rakhshani, Nino Niederreiter, Trevor Gillies. (Also: D-man Mark Katic) As for Gillies, I don't remember when he got hurt, but every day he receives pay at the NHL rate is thanks for job well done in my book.
As we discussed in that previous rosterizing thread, the placement of Frischmon, Rolston, Martin -- and Bailey and Comeau for that matter -- does not really fit neatly in the above LW-C-RW grid format. Someone is going to have to play out of their most familiar position, or the Islanders are going to need to get a vat of that Instant Right Wing Comfort ointment I keep seeing ads about in my spam folder.
Decision-time, by the way, is Wednesday.
Other News and Links
- Michael Fornabaio has the lines and notes from the first day of camp in Bridgeport. Coach is pleased. Players are working
hardhahd. Here are the HockeyDB stats for the one addition, Cousin Langkow. - It's starting to look like Jack Hillen, on a two-way deal, will make the Predators roster.
- Newsday with more on Rolston.
- And also has Capuano on the roster: Every day it's subject to change.
- Some prospect pulp notes: Lee, Russo, ROSEN! More here.
- MORE prospect pulp! Brock Nelson was first star for UND, but they beat up on someone named Regina.
- The latest Isles-to-Queens-but-no scuttlebutt, via LHH FanShot.
- You knew the Islanders were big injury sufferers last year. You might not know that, all in all the players they lost did have significant value.
- But all those guys coming back are good. For your fantasy.
- Justin Bourne debuts his new venue at The Score by featuring WebBard's Frans Nielsen video. Why, I remember when Bourne wasn't a full believer in the Church of Frans. /evangelist's pomposity
- Mc79hockey on CBA, salary floor, Brooks.
- Finally, I don't know if they can keep up with it, but all your Shanabans are -- for once -- NOT belong to us.
Tow days until roster D-Day. Five days until this Sim gets real.
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But possessing the right pictures is how a man truly gets ahead in life.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
As in Photo-Nat Thompson
Two years of undersized tough guy-ed-ness, hustle, and the correct selection of 8×10′s from the Providence Motor Inn kept him in the NHL long enough for a cup contender to notice him.
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
by JPinVA on Oct 4, 2011 6:06 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Nino
I’m not as familiar with NHL IR. Is Nino going on IR a season ending thing or is it “temporary”, like going on the DL in baseball?
I'm a mets, jets, islander, and terps fan. Also known as a glutton for perennial punishment.
IR just creates a roster opening on the 23-man roster
Minimum is 7 days. After that point, guy remains on IR for as long as you want (well, technically as long as he’s not ready, but…you know), but as soon as you take him off IR, you need to make room for him (assuming you did replace him with a callup).
When someone is recalled on “emergency” basis, he’s usually filling in for someone on IR (there may be minor exceptions I’m not thinking of).
So yes, it’s temporary like DL in baseball. A common misconception (found frequently in salary floor-watching media) is that IR frees you of that player’s salary/cap hit. It does not. Not even LTIR does. But if you’re a cap-ceiling team, LTIR allows you to temporarily exceed the cap by the amount of the LTIR’d guy.
Last year there were several people-who-are-paid-to-write-about-hockey types who insisted the Isles hadn’t placed Streit or Weight on LTIR because they needed them to reach the cap floor. When in reality, their injuries freed them of nothing, and the team didn’t need LTIR because there was no cap ceiling risk.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Dom
You’re seriously the best sportswriter ever.
You only figure 8 once.
by The Black Map on Oct 3, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 13 recs
I don't know what I did now
But y’all are the best reader/community/commentariat around.
Except that one guy over there … yeah that guy … take a look at you. Look at the way you’re dressed. You must be 30. Have you ever kissed a girl? It’s just a TV show!
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
You are at the very least the best isles writer
by neologizer on Oct 4, 2011 2:41 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Ok, at the very least, one of the best Isles writers
Easily, top 5. At least top 10 in my book, and thats the God’s honest truth. Definately no worse than top 25. I think you’re great, but my english teacher doesn’t, except when talking about the playoffs. Who amoung us doesn’t need improvement. I mean, if you really apply yourself, and I mean reeeally….Aw hell, I dont even know what this site is about(was misdirected here looking for Montauk Lighthouse tour & visiting hours, nutritional value of Fig Newtons, and a fan club for the move “The Core”) but my friends say that it is top notch. Well, friends of friends. All right, I really don’t know the guys, but sounded like they knew what they were talking about.
by Isles2011 on Oct 4, 2011 5:11 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Newtons DO have a good deal of nutritional value, cookie (or not.....)
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I don't know anything of this "The Core" you speak of
However, I am fond of “TEH CORE!!!!111”
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
Love this
And the truth is, this is all a ruse to set up what I’m about to roll out: a time-share for a lighthouse-themed bed & breakfast. It’s an offer you won’t want to miss.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Who is he pointing at?
So you are saying then that we should pay more attention to the movies?
Could have been worse, at least he didnt tell us to get a life!
Why do I always have to be the one picked out of a crowd?
Nassau Coliseum lost a veteran and an original Islander fan. ACC 1918-2011
Lookin at the Shanabans..
The Wiz is the big loser so far, just over a half a mil.
Nailing Clutterbuck might be worth it though….
by SJG in NJ on Oct 3, 2011 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
No doubt
I almost feel bad for the Wiz (not having seen the hit). Clusterbuck takes risks left and right with people’s health.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Speaking of Bourne
This tweet was great (as well a the video):
jtbourne
BS commenter links to this vid of Lemieux goal today http://youtu.be/P0OCTC03Vzo My lord. this would be 11 penalties and 1 diving fwd today
I’m sure Bossy’s career would have been substantially longer had he played in an era where the refs actually called penalties.
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Oct 3, 2011 7:30 PM EDT reply actions
That is pretty nuts...but what I can't help noticing
is that nobody got a concussion on that play. #blamemario
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Mario quit hockey right after that goal
But seriously I’m always amazed at the lack of calls whenever I watch old Isles games from the 80s. Tonelli’s OT goal against Pittsburgh would have resulted in a penalty shot today (ironically we were probably better off without the call).
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Oct 3, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I think players were less predatory at one time.
Not to say that players didn’t go after skilled guys back then (enforcers were the deterent), but there seems to be a different tone to it all today. Almost as if any sense of integrity doesn’t matter because a particular action isn’t “technically” against the rules, or because of the likelihood that one might get away with a huge freebie after some douchy hit. I think it’s a tone, tenor, something that pervades our society as well.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Oct 3, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
not really disagreeing or agreeing, but just to show the other side of that debate
view the link below of Scott Stevens’ “10 greatest hits” as composed by a fan. listen to the commentary…all were well respected in their field. you find most of Steven’s hits were high and/or to the head, some predatory. and everytime the announcers roar about what a great, hard hit it was..take a look at how many of those headhunter shots were to the games greatest stars whose careers were ended by concussions…lindros, karya…Stevens did most of these headhunting hits at a time when he was aging, slower, not as good defensively, but he was huge in muscle, and could fight, and bridged the talent gap with star players by cheapshots and headhunter long before Matt Cooke, or a Pronger elbow to anyone’s head, or a cheap Phaneuf. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that out of the 4 major north American sports, the NHL was the last to figure out how bad it was for your sport to not protect your stars who sell the game from lesser talents who bridge the talent gap via career threatened, predatory, intent to injure hits like headhunting. Finally, we are in a day and age when the NHL doesn’t encourage and market it as part of the sport.
I do believe it was the Islanders actions, taking a 180 degree turn from Wangs quest to rid the NHL of fighting, to scouring the AHL and signing two out of three of the toughest goons (Trevor Gillies, Jeremy Yamblonski who babysat the kids in BP, and Nasty Merasty who was not signed) and letting the league know if it didn’t do something about the problem, the Islanders were going to protect their players themselves…no one will ever convince me that that did not play a part in forcing the league to deal with the problem.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Oct 4, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Excellent!
I agree that Wang made a statement that nobody heard, then he made one that got EVERYBODY’S attention.
Maybe the loudest statement of all was re-signing Trevor Gillies this year… when he clearly has no place on the NHL roster… except as a WARNING sign… and at 32 he may be the best deterrer of moronic behavior there is in the NHL… well..that, and an awesome PP.
Hopefully Shanny’s actions will remove a lot of these guys from the game, but at least for a few games this year we’re going to get to watch good young hockey players run into the great wall of stache!
Just make sure your DVR’s are set correctly because Trevor will have a pretty nice highlight reel if he gets in 15-20 games.
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
by JPinVA on Oct 4, 2011 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stevens a cheapshot?
Scott Stevens hits today may be illegal, but he NEVER threw the elbow. Look at his career stats once he left the Caps and he had very few, if any elbowing penalties. Shoulder to the jaw, definitely. Did he explode up through the shoulder? Yes. Were his hits predatory? I won’t disagree, but it was in a league that was slower in pace becasue obstruction was allowed through the neutral zone. They were also hits that came straight on a player. Cooke, in particular, likes to hit from behind. Pronger in particular, loves to raise the elbow. Phanuef, hits players on the rails and is closer in his type’s of hits than Stevens. The difference of course, is that Stevens would fight back when challenged. A shot to the head when delivered straight on because a player is admiring the puck was not a cheap shot and still isn’t a penalty.
Nassau Coliseum lost a veteran and an original Islander fan. ACC 1918-2011
by Hockey1919 on Oct 4, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stevens also frequently hit very late, it must be said
And I think refs gave him more of a leash than your average hitter.
I heard the weirdest-ass statement on NHL Home Ice yesterday: Mike Brophy said the Malone hit on Campoli reminded him of the Weight hit on Sutter, because of the puck-carrier leaning low factor.
The weird part was this: “Weight’s hit didn’t sit well with me, because he wasn’t known as a hitter.”
Are you F*&ING kidding me?! THAT’s his criteria? Because Weight hit selectively — when the hockey situation actually warranted (in this case, winning a battle to a puck that would’ve resulted in a breakaway otherwise) — rather than as a matter of philosophy, suddenly that makes that perfectly legal hit predatory?
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I agree Stevens was late on a couple, which I think should be tightened up.
But from the way the game was called that is about one of the few things you could say about the hits that were illegal. Did he hit to inflict damage and pain? I have no doubt about that. Would I hate playing against a player like that? Absolutely frightening to play against him and why I pass the puck and don’t carry it in the middle of the ice.
As for Brophy, take it from the source. They too often look at the result and try to determine some sort of intent. Was the play legal? Yes, then it doesn’t matter if a player gets hurt (To the extent that they league may want to change the rule, but not in that instance).
Nassau Coliseum lost a veteran and an original Islander fan. ACC 1918-2011
That stuff used to drive me up the WALL
When the obstruction crackdown finally came in earnest after the lockout (as opposed to the annual lip service that ended by the fourth regular season game), I felt like I finally woke up from the asylum all these years.
It amazed me that generations of players and fans grew up with hooking and slashing carrying an unwritten “but only if the guy falls to the ice” clause within them.
The stick is for the puck. The shoulder and hip is for the check. The elbow and the knee are only for connecting those parts. I never understood why that wasn’t clear.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Good for Hillen
I still wish he was with the Isles, but good for him for working hard in camp. Hopefully he’ll make the roster.
All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.
Strome contract
By the way, according to Bob McKenzie on twitter, Strome (and any other 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounder of this year’s draft) would need to be under contract by tomorrow (Tuesday) 5 p.m. in order to be eligible to play in the NHL this season.
by BenHasna on Oct 3, 2011 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Guess who will be playing out of position?
Josh Bailey. As of now he already dropped to 4th line center. By tomorrow he will be playing wing.
Give the kid a break Trade Him already. This kid deserves a chance, that is never going to happen on the Island. Package him and a draft choice for a Defensemen.
Ummm theres no word hes dropped to 4th line center.
Seriously. Hes more than likely playing “third line” as much as theres a distinction between 3rd and 4th lines.
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by garik16 on Oct 3, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Exactly
they may actually be trying to shelter the minutes for the first AND second lines this year to get them more scoring opportunities (since JB doesn’t do that really). I’m not sure that’s the best use of FNGO, but if both lines 3 and 4 can be solid defensively, let’s see em get turned loose.
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He was centering the 3d line today at practice with Comeau and Rolston
http://islanders.nhl.com/club/blogpost.htm?id=2946
Which is where he is likely to play opening night.
by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Oct 3, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like Frischmon will play until Nino is back
in which case I think we see PAP move to the third line, Rolston to the 4th line and Nino on the first. My guess.
Why do we automatically move Nino to the first?
Ninos skills are better with the Bailey/Comeau line because of COZO. Meanwhile PAP works great with JT and Moulson. Let Nino ease his way up to 1st line at least.
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I agree.
Heck- let him ease in to even being a regular NHL player, let alone a first liner.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Oct 3, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Heck-let him make the team, before we start putting him on a line.
by afrosupreme on Oct 4, 2011 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Heck- let him get healthy, before we start putting him on the team
by Shanamaj on Oct 4, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Heck- we're all correct. Theres a ways to go before Nino is a first liner, and no legit shortcuts.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lines will change this year...
and I think by the end of the year they loook like this…
Moulson-tavares-Okposo
grabner-Nielsen-Nino
Comeau-Bailey-Parenteau
rolston-reasoner-(Haley/Martin)
(Rolston may be traded, IRed or benched) and we’re going to see some Ullstrom and possibly a little Rhett as well.
But Nino will get a good amount of games with Reasoner to have a some guidance, and with Martin for protection… and he’ll get some PP time where neither of that matters. When he’s ready I think he’ll be a nice fit for either Frans’ or Bailey’s lines… and he’ll take Okposo’s spot next to tavares on the PP.
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
am starting wonder
if FNGO is really about the FNG
we might want to try Grabner – Nielsen – Parenteau
Moulson-Tavares-KO
Rolston-Bailey-Niederreiter
Comeau-Reasoner-Haley/Frischmon
Wow, Pandoofo might make the team. Interesting.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
And this is why i was worried about the tryouts.
People were like, well we just allowed Pandolfo and Staios so as to meet the Veteran Quota and yet bam, both make the team. Just great.
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lol. I agree. I really can't understand what Staios and Pandolfo can bring that Ullstrom/other-young ahl decent player or Wishart/DeHaan/Donovan can't other then age.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
How about buying time so that guys are developed properly instead of being thrown into the NHL?
So many people complain about Bailey being rushed but then BAM they want to do the same thing with other players.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Oct 3, 2011 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Pandolfo
hasn’t been signed yet
signing him would make zero sense
don’t rush do judgment (yet)
Staios makes more sense for the reasons TMC lists
we will have a great available feed of D from BPT this year
its a long season
by Cary K on Oct 3, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Worse case, sign Pandolfo, plays five games. Send him to the AHL.
If someone wants him, they can have him.
Nassau Coliseum lost a veteran and an original Islander fan. ACC 1918-2011
Who said anything about throwing guys in who arent ready?
But really there’s no reason to believe Pandolfo is better than one of our older AHLers (Ullstrom is a center so I don’t think he counts) and Staios is unlikely to be better than say…Jurcina (who appears to be #7 now?)
Writer at Beyond the Box Score and The Hardball Times
Pitchf/x enthusiast.
there’s no reason to believe Pandolfo is better than one of our older AHLers (Ullstrom is a center so I don’t think he counts)
Who are you talking about, exactly? You stated who you are not talking about.
and Staios is unlikely to be better than say…Jurcina (who appears to be #7 now?)
It appears to me that people have a lot more confidence that they have everything all figured out than I do. You think you know who is number whatever on this team, I have no idea. I will wait and see, not imagine it myself and assure the world that I am right. Believe me Im not saying that to offend you, I just do not understand how anyone can be so confident in things that they themselves have come up with before the team has even played a game.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Oct 3, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
First, ignoring the specifics, the confidence comes from a logical discussion of how you evaluate players. Both Staios and Pandolfo are old and are coming off multiple horrible seasons in a row….and Pandolfo comes off a year layoff.
While it’s possible they could bounce back heavily, the odds are HEAVILY in favor of them continuing to be awful players – even if they did have good camps (which are small sample sizes compared to the previous seasons). Both players are bad bad players.
-———————————-
Specifics wise:
I’d rather see Matt Martin than Pandolfo – both likely to be awful, but Martin’s chance of improvement is higher.
I’m basing Jurcina on #7 since he was paired with Reese in the latest practice. I very well could be wrong, but I’d imagine Reese is #8, no?
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Pitchf/x enthusiast.
Jurcina didn’t skate due to his groin injury, though. So, I guess they just listed his name at the bottom there with Reese. Might still be he’s #7, I don’t know, however, I think we can’t really rank Eaton, Mottau, Jurcina and Staios very well at this point.
I think if Eaton, Mottau and Jurcina are all healthy and in good shape they’re the guys who’ll play and Staios is #7. Then again, they seem to like Staios with Streit and that’s a bit of an advantage for him.
Jurcina’s advantage over Eaton and Mottau is the fact that he shoots right and would perhaps be the best fit for the right side on the 3rd pair. That then could leave Mottau as #7, although from what I’ve seen in pre-season Eaton was the least convincing defender of these guys…
by BenHasna on Oct 4, 2011 6:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fair enough.
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by garik16 on Oct 4, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In essence, Im confident due to Bayes theorem.
Which means nothing more than what I just said. All Prior evidence suggests Staios and Pandolfo are in the population of players who are awful. Therefore, we assume that going forward.
Writer at Beyond the Box Score and The Hardball Times
Pitchf/x enthusiast.
I think
Staios is probably a placeholder until Jurcina is back. But anyone is likely to be better than Jurcina anyway.
He sucks
JB is a joke, and from what I have seen this team will finish bottom five. FIRE SNOW.
by Battlin Bily on Oct 4, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Let me guess, IPB reject?
Or sarcasm, or douchier than Mario after a Micheal Haley beatdown?
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 4, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
He is most likely joking around, don’t get so defensive any time a new poster jokes around people^^
by Shanamaj on Oct 4, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I had sarcasm as one of my questions....
I’m still guessing IPB reject though.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 4, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
He is of recent vintage
That much we know.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wait
we’re doing this now?
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
by Fabtraption on Oct 4, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Smurfs fans still trolling, I see.
STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Oct 4, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
from what I have seen
Which is nothing, since the team has not played game 1 of the season yet.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Right Wing Comfort ointment
Is it peddled by Rush Limbaugh?
Yet another Moulson brother-in-law.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Oct 3, 2011 8:15 PM EDT reply actions
Isles fans shouldn't be surprised that Hillen is playing for an NHL team...
Hes ligit
by KO21 on Oct 3, 2011 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
2L 2Q
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Oct 3, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
thats what that was supposed to frickin mean?
OK. Was this some kind of a known thing?
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Oct 3, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Did MC Hammer have a shirt like that lol?
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Oct 3, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
- the harem pants, now THEY, are another matter ENTIRELY!
In memoriam: Virginia Ariel Cayon 1927-2011 R.I.P. Mom
Argh. My Hammer pants are in the wash.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Good to see
That hand guy from the Adams Family still finds work after all these years
by Isles2011 on Oct 4, 2011 4:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Forward depth
in the AHL is a little thin. Wouldn’t be the worst thing if Martin ended up there and BP had two solid lines to roll out.
Defensive corps potentially stronger top to bottom than the big clubs…
Just gives our D Guys more work.
"Failing upwards! How come I can’t ever seem to do that?" - AP77 on Strang's ESPN Job
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
Right
A demotion will do him good. MOST Islander fans do not care about BP.
by Battlin Bily on Oct 4, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Isnt Martin Out of Options?
I could be wrong about that, but if he is, I doubt the Isles are willing to expose him at this point. He’s not the second coming fo gretzky but he’s not someone I’d want to give away for free at this point in his career. I suspect thats why Haley was sent down in favor of Martin as well.
<--waits for a COZO to start and then knows he has 30 seconds to run and grab another beer
by Chris McNally on Oct 4, 2011 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure he's still exempt
Not for much longer (Haley, I think, has 33 more games), but IIRC he’s still exempt.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Malone wasn't suspended for his head hit on Campoli. I really don't see a reasoning to suspend him for it either:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q2LJcRpIbI
What do you guys think?
One thing is for sure though, holy hell Malone can still fight when he wants.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
He leaves his feet as he makes the hit
That tells me he has intent to injure. And he drills him in the head. I can’t see how that’s not a suspension. Maybe he read about Milbury and the pink hats today, so he’s going to start to back off.
by CloseCallJiggs on Oct 3, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Malone's arms are to his side.
Campoli is skating with his head down. That should not be protected by the NHL. You can’t make is so a guy can use his head like a shield so that he can’t get hit from the front.
This hit might have been predatory (THOUGHT CRIME) but on the surface I would think that if Campoli was skating more upright Malone hits him square in the chest.
This is more in line with the Weight hit on Sutter. No penalty here.
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
by JPinVA on Oct 4, 2011 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Your interpretation is exactly what Shanahan said.
He said this was a close one, but the player lowered his head after Malone had him lined up for the hit. He hit him straight on, no blind side. What makes hockey so amazing is that the players make plays knowing they can be hit like this. Without the risk, the game just isn’t the same. When you hit a player you almost always wind up leaving your feet, as you follow through and are repelled by the opposing players uncoming force, so I don’t think that is indicative of intent to injure.
Now putting on my tin foil hat, Shanahan played with Yzerman so OF COURSE he favors the Lightning!
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PS also an example of a good fight.
I don’t condone fights for every single legal hit, but this could be considered marginal although not suspension worthy. If this were a run of the mill big hit, then I’d say suck it up and no need to defend Campoli, but again I think Campoli is new to the team and it is a bonding thing. It is pre-season and guys are setting a tone that they won’t be taken advantage of so I don’t mind sticking up for a teammate.
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I loved that Malone basically said
“If you’re going to fight me for this, you’re not just gonna punch the card. You better be prepared to throw.”
One guy looked like he was going through the obligatory motions. The other guy looked like he didn’t want to have to fight after borderline hits again.
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Yeah. Gotta like that, and he didn't even think he was gonna get more then a penalty from that, lol.
Malone was a guy I always wanted on the isles. Something about his big size, physicality, offensive production, toughness, competitiveness, and work ethic always had me wanting to see him here.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
It depends.
I feel like Ive said this SO many times, sorry for repeating myself)
He can only go to the AHL if his team reached their Euro quota and give him permission to do so.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Oct 3, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I Could Easily See Kabanov Geting a Couple of Games in the NHL
(1) He’s a winger; (2) he’s a big kid; (3) already has NHL-hands; (4) unclear on how his junior team will use him.
Brock Nelson - IMO, Future Impact Player
I don’t presume to be any expert in evaluating young players, but I have seen a lot of guys come and go over the years. And I am really impressed with Nelson. I watched him a lot during the rookie game back in July and he has NHL-hands right now. He’s also real tall with plenty of room to get much stronger. Nelson reminds me a lot of Bob Bourne minus the blazing speed – long arms, wide shoulders, plus-hands and shot. I think I read that Garth moved up to take Nelson on the recommendation of Trent Klatt, who ran this year’s draft. They got real good one there.
Lot to like about him so far
Only big question (other than your standard uncertainty with a prospect) was if his skills would translate after playing against high school competition, but so far so good.
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actually part of the problem was that his High School in Minnesota wasn’t in one of the elite divisions, or at least didn’t play top competition all year long.
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Yeah that's what I meant
But didn’t quite say right.
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University of Regina
A middle of the Road CIAU West team trying its wings against a couple of Division I teams over the weekend. Not a great choice. They lost 7-0 top Bemidji State the next night.
STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Oct 4, 2011 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Hopes dashed again!
First this:
Some prospect pulp notes: Lee, Russo, ROSEN!
But then this:
Rosen was back in his usual spot on the bench as the backup goalie.
we'll be the ones laughing
when Rosen has carried us to 15 consecutive Stanley Cups with 20 SO and 5 goals scored per season.
"..."
by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on Oct 4, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
There are just as many back-up jobs as starter jobs in the NHL, he may have just found a more reasonable career path.
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Yes, that is the secret 20-year plan
And the best thing is that there is nothing anyone can do about it.
Funny, I had it as "prospect action" first
But then realized that was misleading.
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