Evgeni Nabokov: Pleasantly Surprising
Note: Nabokov's soreness rules him out against his former teammates tonight -- sounds like Rick DiPietro gets his first start -- but Sharks fans will be pleased to hear he's been fine so far.
It seemed like in the offseason among Islander fans there were many camps over what should be done with the goaltending position. From Al Montoya, Kevin Poulin and even Anders Nilsson supporters all the way to those who thought the Islanders should bid for Tomas Vokoun, there were wildly varying opinions.
Of course in that mix was Evgeni Nabokov, who seemed to be the favored son of the press once his contract was tolled by those mean Islanders who had the nerve to exercise their CBA-given rights.
To hear some media and anonymous clowns tell it, Nabokov should be allowed to waltz his way back to the NHL and a starting goalie job without any consideration for how he bombed out in the KHL or struggled at the WCs. While many of the same pundits tend to hold the KHL at a lower level then the NHL, they ignored Nabokov's struggles. Many of them are quick to point out when an over-30 player might have lost a step, but ignored the struggles of a 35-year-old goalie.
So over the summer I laid down my thoughts on Nabokov and his previous year in hockey and how there wasn't much hope for him this season. So far, although as a few people would say it's a small sample size, I have to say I have been pleasantly surprised. Nabokov doesn't look anything like a goalie who posted sub-.890 save percentages last year. He doesn't look like a goalie who was outplayed in the KHL by Yann Danis.
The only downside so far is that he is just 1-2, but that's out of his control. A goalie who only lets in 2 goals a game is doing his part to win his team the game. At some point the offense has to give him a hand, too.
Mr Nabokov's Wild Ride
I think during the last season Nabokov should have triggered just about every warning flag about an aging player possible:
Holding Out for Money: Nabokov became expendable to the Sharks when he was unwilling to change his contract demands. Unlike other goalies who quickly realized they were overvaluing themselves in the FA market (Marty Turco, Martin Biron) Nabokov eventually signed in the KHL. The $6 million a year salary was roughly the same salary as his final contract with the Sharks.
Mysterious Family Circumstances: That led to his KHL contract being terminated. Plenty of people pointed out that "Family Circumstances" might have been Russian for "Huge Bust."
How Does Waivers Work? The Scenario: Nabokov eventually signs with the Detroit Red Wings at a huge discount, but has to clear waivers. His agent claims he will play for any team that claims him. Riddled by goalie injuries -- even before Kevin Poulin suffers a season ending injury -- Snow (along with a reported five other GMs) puts in a claim for him and gets him. Nabokov not only refuses to report, but apparently hangs up on Snow when he calls him personally. Islander fans stop stabbing their Kirk Muller voodoo dolls and get to work on Nabokov dolls.
Wait, What? In one of the most confusing statements made during the controversy, Nabokov claims that he wouldn't be ready to play for 4-6 weeks. But Detroit needed him to start sooner then that, and as long as Jimmy Howard was healthy the Wings were not going to start Nabokov over him. So it was at the very least a head scratching statement.
World Championships: Unwilling to play for the Islanders, Nabokov started preparing for the World Championships. Of course Snow only learned of this through reporters. Since you can't compete at the WC's unless your parent club allows you, this meant that Nabokov needed Snow and the Islanders OK to compete. Eventually Nabokov and Snow sorted it out, although Nabokov ended up having a bad tourney and leaving with an injury.
I'm not sure if there's ever been a pro-athlete to wreck his reputation quite this quickly, at least short of run-ins with the law. The only way it could have possibly been worse is if in the end Nabokov had fought his contract getting tolled, which he didn't.
Instead, he embraced it.
He hasn't been a problem in the locker room at all, at least not that anyone has reported. With Montoya posting a .930 and Nabokov's .927, the crease so far looks as solid as it has looked in years. The Islanders have never had two goalies finish the season with a save percentage above .910 at the same time. With the D struggling and the East looking as tight and competitive as ever, it might be the difference between playoffs and golfing.
I don't mind being proven wrong at all, especially if it helps the Islanders. Now if only Dylan Reese and Blake Comeau could prove me wrong...
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I like Nabokov.
There, I said it.
Never thought I say it, but I did. And I do. Go figure!
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 29, 2011 2:21 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Same here
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He made a mistake and hes making amends..
I would’ve preferred an apology instead of his bullshit excuse that he made up…At least I think it was an excuse.
IMO the best apology is his actions. He isnt just playing well, all the guys on the team also seem to be enjoying having him as a teammate. I really didnt think I would see this.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 29, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
So
Montoya seems healthy, and likely to backup tonight.
Him not starting for two weeks is really strange, given their heavy use of him early on. The only thing I can think of is their approach to the rotation is to give each guy a longer stretch as the starter; i.e. two weeks for Montoya, two for Nabby with DP backing up the whole time. Less than ideal, but maybe better than trying to alternate games, or 2 out of 3, etc.
The only reason I don’t like it is that Nabby has played well, but didn’t steal any games-Al already has. And I hate the idea of leaving the job of salvaging the first month of the season to DP. Blood pressure is already up.
Tavares is Tavares.
Nabby has played well, but didn’t steal any games-Al already has
The only reason Nabby hasn’t stolen a game is because he hasn’t shutout anyone. But with a .927 SV% and .930 SV% there’s very little difference between Nabby and Montoya.
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Montoya
has been much better at even strength.
Tavares is Tavares.
by afrosupreme on Oct 29, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if Cappy is lining these guys up by PP sv%. Given how many penalties the Isles usually take in Pitt, that makes sense.
Montoya PP sv% .833 (12sh/2ga) Nabokov .958 (24sh/1ga 5th overall)
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by Keith Quinn on Oct 29, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow
that would be interesting, and sort of a sad state of affairs…
Tavares is Tavares.
by afrosupreme on Oct 29, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I looked back a bit though
and Nabby has consistently been under .890 at least the last 3 years in the NHL (I’m not sure what league average is short handed either)…so probably not. I didn’t check Montoya backward but it would stil be a small sample.
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by Keith Quinn on Oct 29, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
The only reason I don’t like it is that Nabby has played well, but didn’t steal any games-Al already has.
And Nabokov hasnt had a game where he got kinda lit up, but Al already has.
I think they are completely even- IMO the only thing that would make someone see one of them performing above the other in any notable way is if they already want to see that, like one of them better, and have that idea in their minds in the first place.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 29, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Four goals in a game where the Islanders were dominated for 60 minutes is lit up?
I agree they are close, but Montoya has been better, and is the one not playing, so it doesn’t make any sense to me. Playing DP in anything but a backup role makes even less.
Tavares is Tavares.
by afrosupreme on Oct 29, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
They hit like 4 posts, too.
And I said “kinda lit up”- he had a poor game that night, whether you want to admit it or not.
As far as giving Rick a start goes, you 100% KNEW that all three goalies would get starts. We ALL knew that. Acting like these something wrong with that now is IMO nonsensical.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 29, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
he had a poor game that night, whether you want to admit it or not.
I don’t want to admit it, because it’s completely untrue. The only goal you might call bad was the last one when he was caught out of the net a little, but given our defense had let not one, but two TB players stand right in front of him on it, I hesitate to even put much of that on him. He hasn’t been lit up by any stretch of the imagination, whether you want to admit it or not.
There’s really no reason to think all three goalies would get starts if the first two were playing well. There isn’t a single good reason except for the albatross contract for DP to start tonight. It’s the contract and that sucks and it will suck until it’s gone.
Tavares is Tavares.
by afrosupreme on Oct 29, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
gotta disagree
that the only reason to give DP a shot is the contract. As frustrating as this has been, IMO if all 3 are at their best, DP is the most talented goaltender. I know it was so long ago, but try to keep in mind just how well he was playing before he got injured at the All Star skills competition. If he is back to 90% of what he was, and can stay healthy (I know, it’s a longshot), he is superior to either Montoya or the 35 year old version of Nabby.
Feels good for isles fans to be in a position to argue about which experienced goalie with a .920+ sv % should be in nets. Remeber Danis and Joey Mac?
pittsburgh rang
3 posts on nabokov the other night and one was waived off on a very weak goalie interference call. he got lucky.
this 3 goalie nonesense is stupid. i know dipietro isnt going anywhere unfortunately so hopefully they’re showcasing one of the others to trade, preferrably nabakov
I'm singing
Nabokov! Nabokov!
Pleasantly Surprising, Nabokov
Giddy Up Oom Poppa Omm Poppa Mow Mow
Giddy Up Oom Poppa Omm Poppa Mow Mow
Nine Two Seven GAA
Nabby playing great but team wins in front of Big Al
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
Big Al played 4 games, now Nabby played 4, will DP get start for next 4
Any task BIG or small, Do it well or not at all
question-
If DP is Maverick
And Nabby is Goose
Would Al be the Iceman?
Surprising to see Nabby playing well after that wild ride.
Little Unfair to Suggest That the Family Reasons for Leaving KHL Were Bogus
Nabokov’s wife is from the US and the guy has young children. His family may have wanted to return to the US. (They apparently returned before he did.) Here’s a link:
http://sports.rightpundits.com/?p=5776
He may have thought he was doing the best thing for his family long term when he took the bigest offer from the KHL. It’s to the man’s credit if he walked away from it and is now playing for a lot less for family reasons.
This is why I never put any stock in his bad KHL stats. You had to figure something else was causing the slide.
That didn’t mean so much to knock his excuse as to the shady side of the KHL. I wonder if he was doing well and had family issues if his KHL team would have been so willing to let him walk away.
If it was just the KHL stats, that would be one thing, but he also had the horrible showing at the WCs
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My question:
Is the goalie playing on the ice for all 60 (or so) minutes able to inspire the rest of the team to perform? Of course he was out there for the JT-hat-trick game. But is this something to consider? How has the chemistry been?
I am not surprised. I've been saying all along. NABBY is our BEST puck stopper.
He might’ve acted like a bum, the way he handled the situation. But he is an accomplished NHL goalie. He’s been an above avg net minder in this league for a long time…Why wouldn’t he continue to be what he always was???
Thats a great goalie!
I understand he had some rough times in the KHL but all players have slumps.
If a guy is great for 10 yrs and sucked for 1 yr, I would give that guy the benefit of the doubt..
Confirmed
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DiPietro will start tonight against #sjsharks. #isles
5 seconds ago
I know DP has to get some starts, but man, to walk away from goalies who have put up .927+ is a little scary. Let’s keep the wanderings to a minimum tonight!
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Dammit I was 10 minutes too late to make my bold prediction that Ricky will start tonight
at least I shared it with my brother last night. On eperson in this world will think I know what Im talking about
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by Chris McNally on Oct 29, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
FDPJ
First DP journey?
Right corner (8:12)
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by Keith Quinn on Oct 29, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea
In all honesty I don’t care if he throws a shutout, this is a bad decision. Makes me wonder if Wang really has exited stage left.
Tavares is Tavares.
by afrosupreme on Oct 29, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh come on.
When you have THREE Goalies, all three will get starts.
Its not rocket science and god knows its not some kind of conspiracy.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 29, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
With the confirmation of Ricks Start, it is now official:

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Oct 29, 2011 10:14 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
There have been some good pics posted on this site
but this is definitely my favorite, at least for this season. Good job TMC
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by Chris McNally on Oct 29, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
ha, thanks! Gotta say, Ricks beard just works here. And is it just me or does Al look like he is digging the outfit? Nabby looks like he is going with the flow, but I guess you cannot get less Russian-looking than this lol.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 29, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Guaranteed if they do that hip thrust thing
All of Bridgeport will be up here till next season.
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by Keith Quinn on Oct 29, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
HAHAHA!!!!!!!!
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 29, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
"I'd say something witty here, but the kid in the background is distracting me..."

It looks like young Nabokov was brought into the future to see himself as an Islander.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 29, 2011 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That was pretty witty...
I’d have gone for something like, “hmmm Nabokov… that sounds like ‘knock it off’… I wonder if his teachers used to tell him, ‘knock it off’, nabokov?…ooo look at the pretty red light”
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NICE, did he drive up in a DeLoreion!
shut up and skate!!!!!!
by J.t. Day on Oct 29, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lineup notes and news
StapeNewsday Arthur Staple
by KatieStrangESPN
Rick DiPietro starting in net tonight for #Isles against the Sharks, same skaters as Thursday — Mottau/Gillies scratched.
8 minutes ago
Nick Kypreos
RealKyper Nick Kypreos
#Blackhawks Dan Carcillo called to carpet for questionable hit on #Canes Joni Pitkanen. He faces #NHL supplemental discipline today at 1 pm
3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply
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I scanned this quickly
and saw Dan Carcillo and carpet and the thought of either instantly made me become uninterested in the rest
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by Chris McNally on Oct 29, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
were you wondering...
“does the carpet match the drapes?”
Unfortunately that is the only time I ever here the word “carpet” any more. But amazingly, hardwood comes up at the most inappropriate times.
Flooring… it can be so funny when you think about it.
Flooring stream in 3…2…
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were you wondering…
"does the carpet match the drapes?"
Good GOD, no! ![]()
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 29, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
way off topic
but I hate our wimpy lineup. There will be a game soon where runs are taken and we are pounded and embarassed and then we will see Haley for good. Don’t know why our coaches always wait until that happens, but starting with Gordon, that’s how it goes here. I though Jack got it last year, but he seeems to have forgotten.
I think we're fine
The Islanders are no longer afraid to engage in scrums after the whistle, as is evident by the past games this season. Besides, they still have Martin, who is no afraid to fight. Plus, overall everyone has the willingness to stand up for one another this year.
All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.
are you sure your watching islanders games?
i dont see that at all. i see them skating away from scrums and never mixing it up. orpik pooped taveras in the mouth the other day and nobody did a damn thing. there is no denying this team is extremely soft, its so obvious. they’ll never win this way.
You realize Tavares had popped orpik with an elbow just before that right?
and little bit later JT dumped him on the end boards
by MSBerg on Oct 29, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nabokov became expendable to the Sharks when he was unwilling to change his contract demands
You have any links that back this up? The Sharks organization didn’t even approach Nabby to stay with them. WIth any offer. Least that is what I was hearing. Of course, it makes for a much more interesting story to paint Nabby as the evil Russian. :)
GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)
I was following via the SBN Sharks Site
whose name I have forgotten, and could have sworn they mentioned a few times that the team was negotiating with Nabokov, but they cut off negotiations 3 days before UFA started, and after they had signed their two other major free agents that year (Thorton and someone else?) to large contracts. It was my understanding that they would have been willing to play ball, but Nabby wouldn’t budge.
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You might want to take a look at these two articles – here and here. As you can see, Nabby wanted to return, it was the Sharks organization that had other plans. It never even went as far as negotiating any contracts, Sharks decided to head another way.
FTF was just speculating at the time as to what was going on.
GO SHARKS!
Ever get the feeling we are on a collision course with reality?
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security" -- Benjamin Franklin (see profile for more info on this quote)
when the Blackhawk salary cap
was blown up by the bidding war the Sharks instigated, Niemi was cast aside, for less money,
so, unless you where in the room with Doug Wilson no one knows the fact’s
but so what
He is now
a NEW YORK ISLANDER!
shut up and skate!!!!!!
by J.t. Day on Oct 29, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
well not today, again, a date for June!
Watching him live, grow up at the Shark Tank I know of what I speak.
First the KHL debacle.
His wife, children, mostly the boss his wife refused to leave there house in San Jose, California and move there with him. With a long term contract there, and being a real family man his game suffered, That’s the facts, case closed.
He is by far the best goalie never to have his name on Lord Stanley’s Cup, and why is this you ask, during the Sharks cup runs with him in net, it seems the offence scoring spigot just flat ass “turned off”. Many games where 1 and 2 point affairs, with no output from the likes of season 30 goal producers such as the likes of Patty M and Big Joe.
But that is all in the past,
watching the waverwire as it is so called, I knew the DAY when he left Russia that there was a 80% possibility he could land on Long Island, I have been an Isles fan all “there” life, so maybe it was wishful thinking but none the less, little ole me, sittin in his living room in San Jose California, in early December knew it. When the goalie situation went to hell in a hand basket on the Island 80% went to 98%.
On the final day,I was up at oh dark 30, waiting for the what I was certiant, 100% certiant he would be a New York Islander by 9:00am California time…
woke up the whole freakin house,
NABBY’S A NEW YORK ISLANDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
screw the Red Wings, not this time!
that whole deal, best said, if I knew the possibilities, to an assured 100%, then the agent did, and the management of the Red Wings did as well, enough said.
Fast forward to NOW
I have posted many times here about him, I’m thrilled he is a “New York Islander”.
I am 99% sure the Islander’s will make the Stanley Cup Playoffs this season, with his help.
Confrence: 4th or 5th
Atlantic: 2nd or 3rd
What he needs from the Islanders to make this so,
a little, no check that, a LOT more defencive AWARENESS, goalies make the first stop, "D’ makes the rest,
get it done.
All three lines contribute, bring the shots on goal up to 25-30-35 average.
All three lines contribute, bring the goals scored up to 3-4-5 average.
I was sad to see him leave the Sharks, thrilled to see him with the Islanders
My writing might seem like pie in the sky bs, but
I have watched Nabby for 10 years, Islanders faith full have only just discovered him.
I’m so sad he does not get the game today, I was so looking forward to this day. All my San Jose Sharks family and friends are coming by for barbecue, Shark steak, Long Island Ice Tea and Isles hockey in my San Jose, California back yard!
But I guess I will have to wait.
what do I wait for, the same thing all my fellow brother and sister New York Islanders fans wait for,
hockey in June,
odd’s 75% maybe 80%,
NABBY WILL MAKE IT SO!,
and my previous offer still stands,
Long Island Ice Tea’s on me if I see you here and at the Tank in June!
And maybe some Shark steak as well!
(even you Angy! because we also know the suffering, don’t we, and free food and a stiff drink is the least I can do for you.)
shut up and skate!!!!!!
by J.t. Day on Oct 29, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
LOL- great post Jt :)
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 29, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Great post Jt
But my money is on Nabby getting moved for an undisclosed draft pick, sorry to say. He has been good so far, but the three headed goalie has a history of not working out, and I can’t see the Isles moving a young Montoya and keeping an old Nabby. Of course I could be wrong since we have so many young goalies coming up. In Garth I trust. And if Nabby does get moved, I would not mind one bit if he got his name on a cup.
by CloseCallJiggs on Oct 29, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
If it where me...
This evenings game will be an indicator as to the two, or three headed goalie monster, if the net minder can weather the 35 to 40 shot onslaught he is about to face, then he has made strides from past lack luster performances.
But, if I could move the Isles chess pieces around the board I would,
show case employee #39, with 5 out of the next 7. Then start shopping him for a “D” worth his veteran salt, or a centerman that brings numbers with him, but that’s just me.
Now all honesty, I don’t know much about employee #39, so I cant disparage him, as there are some here who hold him in high regard.
I am new to this Lighthouse, but spent the early part of my life on the Island and have great familiarity with that one on Montauk Point, and the growing of the Islanders from expansion to Champion, and a decline bad enough to make a die hard cry.
With the addition of employee #20 there are the possibilities of greatness. saving the adding of one or two more pieces to the puzzle this team is at the door step of being who they have been, who they should be.
And it is with his addition I have awoken from a nightmare with high hopes.
Now, I gotta go fire up the grill, the Shark steaks have been marinating for a day and it’s time to bake some Shark, before my second LI Ice Tea
(by the way the locals really like that drink!)
Hopefully employee #39 will do some Shark bakin himself, then I will the first to say, son your alright in my book! you might even be a keeper!
shut up and skate!!!!!!
by the way, sorry for the LONG post's
I will try to condence my verbage! but I’am a New Yorker and since when have we ever shut up!
shut up and skate!!!!!!

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