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Preseason Notes: Bruins 3, Islanders 2

The Islanders concluded their preseason schedule in front of 8,400 fans in Bridgeport and a bunch online who struggled with a webcast feed that wouldn't cooperate for the first period.

Eventually the visuals came up (audio would wait until the third), and a few people who were at the game chimed in our game thread with their observations from a pretty decent Islanders lineup's 3-2 loss to a pretty decent Bruins lineup.

Isles Recap | AP | [nhl stats pages broken] 

Lots of notes, quotes and links below, as the Islanders have to make some tough decisions that could be announced as soon as Sunday.

UPDATE: Oh, they've been announced. 17 players in the first cut, plus Micheal Haley makes 18, leaving 28 left in camp, plus the three on IR (Katic, Rakhshani, Colliton).

Star-divide

From my vantage point:

  • The FnGO (Frans Nielsen, Michael Grabner, Kyle Okposo) line was flying right where they left off last year. Although Okposo fired wide multiple times, which is even worse than the post.
  • It's simply a joy to see Mark Streit play hockey again. He does so many things well -- and he does them with urgency. There is no Kovalev to his finesse plays. Late in the third he earned a powerplay while deking two Bruins off him from a virtual standstill at the point.
  • Add Chris Clark to the growing list of players who probably wish they hadn't decided to fight "little" Micheal Haley.
  • Yeah, John Tavares is pretty good.
  • Nice to see Martin Reasoner get in on the scoring. He'll get some goals this year, to add to a bunch of unsung work.

Arthur Staple's recap in Newsday included a lot of useful notes, including another stab at the Josh Bailey and Blake Comeau (who was "an experiment" at right wing) journey:

Comeau was still on the perimeter a bit too much for Jack Capuano's liking, I'll bet, but Comeau had a couple great shifts with the puck in the offensive zone, one of which led to Marty Reasoner's backhand goal after a hard bounce off the end boards in the second. Comeau and Josh Bailey are still finding their roles, and both need to drive the net and fire off some shots to get noticed.

Jack Capuano, on why the Islanders blew a 2-0 lead in the second:

"The first period, we played extremely well," said Islanders Head Coach Jack Capuano. "The second period, what happens is, if you don’t change at the proper times, with the bench where it is, 30 seconds becomes a minute-and-a-half and (Boston) won the change game in the second period. That’s why the ice was tilted and they had their 16 shots..."

Travis Hamonic, on why that just won't fly [same link]:

"Come regular season, these are the games that we have to close out and we have to win," Hamonic said. "You learn from situations and games like this..." 

And on being reunited with Andrew MacDonald, who made his first game appearance after hip surgery and showed a mix of rust and the reasons he's well-regarded:

"When I looked over in warm-up, we were kind of doing some of the little things and the quirks we do," Hamonic said. "I think our friendship grows off the ice, but with our styles of play, it seemed like tonight we picked up right where we left off..."

Much more in that game recap.

And locally, Michael Fornabaio's blog at the ConnPost had lots of notes, including this quote from Capuano on the cuts that now need to be made: "It’s tough. A lot of guys gave everything they had in camp,"

Fornabaio also has a nice piece on Micheal Haley's determined bid this summer to stick with the NHL club.

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Decisions, Decisions

Some of the big outstanding issues:

At forward: Does Jay Pandolfo get a contract? If so, a forward who was here last season will not begin the year with the big club. Nino Niederreiter's groin injury (receiving treatment, on-going evaluation) might create wiggle room, but ultimately at forward the Islanders have added Brian Rolston, Martin Reasoner and possibly Nino and Pandolfo while only losing Zenon Konopka and Jesse Joensuu from the end of last season. And Trevor Gillies, enforcer?

On defense: Is the surgery brigade healthy? Does a prospect stick with the team to open the season while a rehabber hits IR with a sudden malady? (While assignments should be made by Monday, health could still change things by Saturday night.)

In goal: I'm assuming the three-headed monster starts the season, but if so that creates one less option in the two groups above.

Of sartorial interest: Is a 3rd jersey still happening, and if so when will be the reveal? Some of us have to buy earrings to go with it, you know.

It's surely been a week of interesting talks in the Islanders offices, and Sunday should be no different.

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OT Lighting and Rangers game next week

I will be town next week and I am going to try and catch these 2 games. I thought it would be cool to meet some of the guys/gals from the blog. Also I am staying at my folks house in Dumont NJ if anyone wants to road trip together.

by IslesinAZ on Oct 2, 2011 2:16 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Speedy Game

Unlike the last few pre-season games this group was very fast, even on a stretched screen. The game tempo was up 100% from the last 2 games alone. Therefore it was a much better game to watch even with the loss.

What tweaked me was pulling Nabakov with 1:05 left and getting only 1 shot. Isles were 6 on 4 at that point and couldnt get off anything. Either the Bruin’s D was excellent or we were on the fumes. Maybe pre-season gives no urgency to win.

by IslesFanForLife on Oct 2, 2011 2:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Either the Bruin’s D was excellent or we were on the fumes.

Well- they are the defending stanley cup champions.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 2, 2011 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I love the respect The Hammer has for A-Mac

Even though in reality, Hamonic will most likely end up the better player. He knows A-Mac helped him along last year.

To me, from the 3 games i watched, DP andf Montoya are our top two goalies. What is everybody else’s opinion?

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 2, 2011 7:20 AM EDT reply actions  

From how it looks now, yes

but honestly, 5 games really wasn’t enough for me to get a good feel…What did Poulin and Nilsson play 35 minutes? In Nabby’s defense (I noted in the game thread) he outright said he would need more game time to get his timing back and really, he got a game and 10 minutes. I guess it is going to shake itself out in-season, but yeah, I’d start with those two.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 2, 2011 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right Now...

I’d say we see DP in the net Montoya on the bench and Nabokov in the press box on 10/08,. They’ll need to rotate for a while, maybe 2-1-1 until somebody stands out and somebody stands down.
If DP continues to play well there’s no harm in having Poulin and Nilsson in BPT, while Montoya paces towards 20 games and Nabby towards 10.. or a trade. Koskinen, I would guess, will either be loaned to an ECHL team or kept in BPT so they can work with him. His mobility seems to have gotten worse.
If DP is healthy, and playing the best of the three, there is no reason why DP shouldn’t be starting. Let’s just keep our fingers(and anything else we can) crossed that he stay’s healthy. The guy has at least earned that much from us.

Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!

by JPinVA on Oct 2, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love

the note from Staple about Cizikas on the line change. Great to see those kinds of smarts.

Also, this is an interesting point:


If, say, the Isles third and fourth lines most nights are Comeau-Bailey-Niederreiter and Rolston-Reasoner-Pandolfo/Martin, the only real banger among those seven is Matt Martin.

by afrosupreme on Oct 2, 2011 7:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Sory

quote fail:

Seeing the very large Bruins throwing their weight around, it’s going to be tough on the Isles’ skilled but small forwards this season against bigger teams. If, say, the Isles third and fourth lines most nights are Comeau-Bailey-Niederreiter and Rolston-Reasoner-Pandolfo/Martin, the only real banger among those seven is Matt Martin. That’s going to mean some wear and tear on the skilled guys. Something to watch for.

by afrosupreme on Oct 2, 2011 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cizikas

Haven’t seen him play much, but just from reading about him….a comparison that comes to mind is Michael Peca. Is that a reasonable comparison?

by JPinNYC on Oct 2, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Colliton

I had forgotten all about him and can’t believe I didn’t realize that he hasn’t played a game, but Fornabrio says that he’s hurt (short term)…does anyone remember what happened to him?

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 2, 2011 8:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I remember it was early in camp

But don’t remember the malady.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 2, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colliton played in the first Boston game

He left the game in the first period with a groin injury. Click

by Francesca on Oct 2, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys all know...

better than I do the real particulars of line combos and maybe who’s gonna stick with the big club or not, but alI I know is the season is finally almost here and I am freakin psyched.
A great thing about the Yankee playoffs is they help the next week to go by faster.
I’m psyched, baby!
(And I really like Haley. As with Gillies, his presence will deter some cheap shots at key guys, but the guy can also play some too.)

by dose on Oct 2, 2011 8:30 AM EDT reply actions  

None of the injury guys looked bad

Except maybe Mottau but that could just be normal Mottau.

No Sleep 'til....

by Anarcurt on Oct 2, 2011 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Roster moves from Staple

#Isles send 17 to Bridgeport: Fs Backman, Cizikas, DiBenedetto, Marcinko, McNeely, Romano, Ullstrom, Wallace…
Ds De Haan, Donovan, Klementyev, Ness, Olson; Gs Koskinen, Nilsson, Poulin also sent down by #Isles.
#Isles have 29 players, including jr-bound Strome, Kabanov; Frischmon and Reese (already waived). Pandolfo/Haley battling for last spots.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 2, 2011 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Note

that here, he doesn’t mention Nino battling for a roster spot. I’m assuming he is leaving some out due to injury. Also note that all 3 goalies were sent to BPT. I guess it is still possible to loan one from BPT to the ECHL, but as of now, all at AHL level.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 2, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Team site link

Here

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 2, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Surprising also

is that Trevor Frischmon remains…I guess you can never have too many Trevors

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 2, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've actually really liked

Frischmon’s play. I think he could be a nice fourth line fit. I wish he didn’t have a contract already, so they could Staios him for a cap hit.

by afrosupreme on Oct 2, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

this screams out FAN SHOT

Pandolfo v Haley should not even be floating around… The team needs a Haley, it most definitely does not need a Pandolfo.
What’s up with Rolston… I can only see Nino sticking around if Rolston = 2010 Doug Weight.
So many decisions… zero practice games left to use to decide.

Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!

by JPinVA on Oct 2, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

It may be a ploy though

I’m not sure of everyone’s status, but the guys that remain may be the most likely not to pass through waivers. If they waive Pandolfo (well, they’d need to sign him first) right at the last second when others have their roster set, they may be less likely to lose him outright. Frishmon also is 30 years old, so he probably fits into that category.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 2, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

"The team needs a Haley ..."

Absolutely, positively and certainly!
If it means Pandolfo’s gone, sorry.
Haley’s value is more important.

by dose on Oct 2, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haley is oved, it's awesome

And i love him. I think no matter what, we are going to see The Haley on the big club a whole bunch whether he makes the team from the start or not.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 2, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rosterbation

I’m bummed for Haley, but I don’t mind this from an asset management standpoint. He’s still waiver-exempt, so if the Isles are assembling an army of bodies to withstand the inevitable injury crunch, having him in the A gives them some flexibility to start the season.

I can’t really judge Pandolfo based on what I’ve seen so far, but he used to be useful. If this means having Pandolfo and Haley in reserve, that might come in handy.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 2, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

My take on the three-headed goalie monster:

with the skill level (and injury history!) of all 3 in question, I think this may actually be a desirable situation; if one or (perish the thought) 2 of them go down for an extended period of time, we still have one other very skilled tender (either Poulin OR Nilsson; Anders is the real deal by all indications) to call upon if necessary in Bridgeport…..Islanders motto (as opposed to Mottau): you can NEVER have too many goalies! LOL

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by ogam5 on Oct 2, 2011 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Three Heads

RDP – looked the best he has in years. The question remains about his health and his lack of maturity around the net.

Nabby – looked mediocre at best and like RDP wanders around the net too much.

Big Al – seems to play a calm and simple game.

My choice is to trade Nabby and some other players to get a gifted defenseman.

Big Al seems to be ready to be the real deal and RDP looks okay.

by TheMagus on Oct 2, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

LAck of Maturity?

Rick is a 30 year old man who has played professional hockey for over a decade. I do not think ‘maturity" is the right word at all. Perhaps we might replace ’lack of maturity around the net’ with ‘questionable decision making when playing the puck’? At least that I can understand.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 2, 2011 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

2nd

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 2, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Questions and Answers...

1) Why didn’t the Islanders have more than five preseason games? Considering all the goalies; at least one or two more game would have been nice. I don’t think we know what we have with Nabokov and the three headed monster thing is taking up a roster spot that would be better off used for a health scratch Dman or foreman.

2) Injuries could dictate final cuts. How bad are the injuries to Roslton, Nino and Jurcina. Will any be placed on IR to start the season?

3) Haley or Pandolfo? It appears that Coach Jack likes Pandolfo and would like to keep him. But Pandolfo may get caught up in a numbers game because the Islanders will only have two extra heathy scratch spots, thanks to the three headed goalie monster. Healey may get sent down because he has options remaining and can be sent to Bridgeport with out being waived. Would Pandolfo agree to a two-way deal?

4) I’m still holding out hope for a late waiver wire pick up or trade by Garth to improve the Defense. Are any teams up against the Cap?

by John from ATL on Oct 2, 2011 10:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I think your second question ...

might have answered your first.
They may be afraid of losing guys before the season even starts.
The last couple of that’s been a prob.

by dose on Oct 2, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Gillies...

I think Gillies has done everything that could have been asked of him going into camp. He is what he is as a hockey player but, he hasn’t done anything stupid; he’s made some nice hits and won some fights. If he isn’t one of the health scratches waiting for the right game to be inserted into the line-up why was he in camp?
The Three Headed Moster thing is already handcuffing the team from making decisions. I don’t think it matters if they send Gillies down to Bridgeport for a few weeks to start the season but, he’s good for the locker room and would also be good for that one or two games if someone gets hurt and will only be out for a short time. Having Gillies sit in the press box for a few weeks isn’t going to hurt his game.

by John from ATL on Oct 2, 2011 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Gillies is great at opening the bench door

besides pounding heads, having a crazy mustache, and pumping up teammates opening the gate is his third best attribute. But I still don’t like the idea of keeping a guy on the roster to play just 4 minutes a game.

by Jones79 on Oct 2, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

He had 2 big legal hits in the last two preseason game

If you’re going to speak ill of him, and least tell the truth. He does more than punch people. He’s also huge in the locker room.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 2, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

huge in the locker room maybe

but two big hits in two preseason games just doesn’t justify his spot on the roster. Knopoka was huge in the locker room, and he was great in the face off circle, and he took a semi-regular shift in all 82 games and could provide big hits and throw down the gloves., but what I’m railing against is keeping a Gillies on the team simply because he is a dinosaur, a relic from another era, and he is a frequent scratch, and when he does skate is just an up-and-down winger with little NHL-translatable talent to help the squad when he is on the ice.

Its the same way I felt about Godard when he was on the Island, And I loved Godsie when he played on BPT, but that is where Gillies should be too.

To me a player such as Haley or Martin is far more valuable because they can take regular shifts, and keep the opposition honest when checking the Islander’s skilled players.

by Jones79 on Oct 2, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Martin and Haley can't fight Big Mac though

And that clown is talking about taking one of our stars out.

Maybe then you would recognize the need.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 2, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I recognize the need, but I don't have to like it

My concern about Gillies this season is that there is a vanishingly fine (and almost imperceptively mobile) line for him between a clean and legal hit and (whot would be, for him) a 30 game suspension.

STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!

by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Oct 2, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then if he's suspended 30 games you won't have to watch him.

Sounds like a win win for you.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 2, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trevor had a good camp. Im happy for him.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 2, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cap Problem Teams

Washington is over the cap limit.

Who would you trade for with any of these teams?

Washington Capitals
Philadelphia Flyers
New York Rangers
Buffalo Sabres
Los Angeles Kings
Toronto Maple Leafs
Vancouver Canucks

by TheMagus on Oct 2, 2011 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Trades are difficult...

I don’t know other teams as well as the Isles. I was thinking more in lines of the Wisniewski deal from last year. A second or three round pick or prospect. What you trade away is directly related to what you’re bring back. Is the player they trade for under contract for the following year? Will he be a UFA after this season? How much salary are you taking on? And so on.
I’d like to give Bailey, Comeau and Parentau another year to see if they continue to develop. I would think these are the players off the roster that may be considered tradeable that could bring back value. But, I’m not sure that’s necessary yet.

by John from ATL on Oct 2, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thing is

All of those teams can afford to bury a body in the minors rather than deal a desirable player off their roster.

I’ll have to dig into their roster situations team by team, but it strikes me as a lot of “Oh, you can take Kotalik or we can just waive/demote/send him to Europe” situations.

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by Dominik on Oct 2, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isles need Haley more, but Pandolfo looked pretty good for 4th line last night.

He was skating well. It would be good to keep him around if Isles can. Definitely better than starting Martin up with Isles (Let him play lots of minutes in Bridgeport.) Can they fit Pandolfo as a healthy scratch without losing anyone?

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 2, 2011 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Official on Haley from Staple

#Isles also sending F Micheal Haley to Bridgeport. That makes 19 total sent down today, 28 remaining with team.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 2, 2011 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Thats too bad

He played really well last night

by nyidangle17 on Oct 2, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ugggghhhhhh

I disagree with this move.

by JPinNYC on Oct 2, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

This has to mean Martin is staying up for the start of the season

You need either Martin or Haley in the lineup EVERY night. Throw Gillies in there also only when you know there’s going to be a war (i.e. Penguins).

by JPinNYC on Oct 2, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it is more about Martin staying in NY

than it is about Pandolfo making the team. To apply the Staois situation to this PTO, Staois was signed before any real cuts were made to the roster, and I think that, if Pandolfo played well enough to impress, that he would have been signed already, too.

Because Pandolfo hasn’t been signed yet, I can see him staying until the last possible moment on camp and being sent on his way. But what this move really means, IMHO, is that Martin is the winger who the brass thinks will have the best impact on the team for opening night, at the cost of Haley.

by Jones79 on Oct 2, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t understand why they sent him down

Because he is waiver exempt.
It is smart asset management to take advantage of that when you can.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 2, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I figured

him or Martin to be headed that way. I would have preferred Martin for his development (and I think Haley is a better fit right now).

I don’t doubt he’s going to be back soon.

by afrosupreme on Oct 2, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

For me the turning point was when Nabokov was put in net

Montoya was playing so well I was hoping they would just play him the full game. Once Nabokov was put in they got the two quick goals and looked alive again. Up until that point the Islanders were getting the better scoring opportunites. Another thing that killed us was shots. A lot of guys were passing when they had a lane to shoot. Also was anyone else at the game? Can you believe how many Bruins fans were there? I was expecting maybe half Islander fans and half bruins fans, not 80% Bruin fans

by nyidangle17 on Oct 2, 2011 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Isles vs Bruins at Bridgeport - They should do it every year.

Yeah, I was there and we were definitely out-numbered. Having just won the Stanley Cup, Bruin fans are a little more pumped than most fans this time of year. I live in CT and in baseball half the state are Red Sox fans and the other half Yanks/Mets fans.
So I guess half of CT fans are Bruin fans. After the game all the Bruins fans were getting in cars with CT license plates. Hope they do the this Isles – Bruin preseason game each year. As the Isles get better, the crowd will become more 50/50.

by JoRiverside on Oct 2, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

CT is split.

About 1/4 of CT is tri-state-area-oriented and the other 3/4 thinks its New England.
I say that because one of my best friends lived there and assured me of it.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 2, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Live in New Fairfield CT....

You are spot on!!!

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by bossy2219 on Oct 2, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well my friend is spot on, technically lol- I just believed her :)

She got a taste of both from growing up living in CT, New Hampshire, Boston, and then NY.
Growing up her parents were NYers living in New England and funny enough she is now a New Englander living in NY.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 2, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was there. It wasn't 80% Bruins fans.

I knew there would be a lot of Bruins fans. Bridgeport is in New England after all. I’d say it was 60-65% Bruins fans. The Islanders probably wanted to play the Bruins in Bridgeport to get a sellout. The game as sold out – 8400+.

by TMS on Oct 2, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed 60/40

yellow stands out a lot more than darker blue.

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 2, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can field a small Forward team......

including Pandalfo if you have a big D – like the Habs – trouble is we have a smallish Defense, which Snow did not bolster and in the process could have lost Wishart, I don’t get it!

by altosax on Oct 2, 2011 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Smurfs and No Company for Old Men

For some freaking reason Snow likes Smurfs and Old Men.

We have a team of freaking Smurfs on offense and defense. Last nights game should have made it crystal clear we need some big boys to protect our talent. Instead Snow has reverted back to the old Snow by moving forward with all of these smurfs…..

What turn the season around for the Isles is we played like big boys and got respect. We will not survive this game of sharks and orcas playing like minnows. We either get smart and aggressive players or we will be dead.

Bring back Haley…..keep Martin….bring up Ultstrom….

Looks like Rolson has taken the mantle of too old to play role on the team. We seem to be replacing Rolson with Pandolfo. Why? Pandolfo was mediocre in the games he played. Why keep an old timer when a hungry kid will be a better long term solution.

by TheMagus on Oct 2, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Size can be easily overrated

Size like Kvasha, or Bertuzzi when he was on the Island is almost more infuriating then a player like Schremp. I want to see tenacity and a fearlessness to go into the corners. I think those two qualities are what the Isles need to develop not just big bodies.

Of course, get me a 6’8’ defenseman who is tough and skilled any time, but those guys only come around every so often. Also, I see players like Okposo, and Nino, as the able-bodied players who can compete in the corners but aren’t hulks on skates. They have size and can create room, but aren’t useless like others who have big mustaches on the team.

by Jones79 on Oct 2, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Does Wishart really qualify as "size" to you?

I thought his lack of physical play was a knock on him from the size-or-else faction? Meanwhile, Jurcina is one of the bigger D on the team, does use his body … and ends up injured frequently as if he’s a smurf himself.

Magus, I don’t think Snow “likes smurfs.” I think on the NHL market, when all things are equal (skills, smarts), the bigger player is always harder to get. In a rebuild you’re trying to get legit hockey players through whatever way possible, and the reality is the overlooked ones (i.e. ones available later in the draft, in the college free agent pool) are the ones who have skills but for whom size is a question mark. That’s how they ended up with so many small-to-average size D prospects with skills.

This past summer’s draft sure looked like they felt they could afford to focus on size more. But it’s always at a premium, unless you’re willing to accept a big body who plays a Kvasha game.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 2, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Size is not just where you fall on a height ruler, its how you play.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 2, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I thought Comeau looked great.

Not sure what Staple didn’t like about Comeau’s effort. He was terrific. He took control of the game and had the defense scrambling to stop him which created opportunities for his teammates. Comeau is fast and he puts pressure on the D.

by TMS on Oct 2, 2011 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Reasoner looked a bit slow - not in game shape yet.

Reasoner looked tired at times and a step behind. I don’t think he’s in game shape yet.

by TMS on Oct 2, 2011 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

May just take some getting used to using longer posts.

Some sites used to drastically limit how long a post could be and also limit the number. So some people may be inclined to make multiple posts rather than a long post that would immediately be moderated. No site in particular comes to mind, just saying.

Nassau Coliseum lost a veteran and an original Islander fan. ACC 1918-2011

by Hockey1919 on Oct 4, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, just fun. No harm no foul.

And wait a minute, are TMS and TMS71 related?! We need to suss out all relations here at LHH.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

That reminds me of what a friend told me earlier

He said Matt Moulson and Jonathon Quick were brothers in law? I think he’s full of shit though.

Constantly building for the future.

by pgat28 on Oct 4, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

People make things up.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 4, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lies, lies and innuendo

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 4, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.

The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.

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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.

Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.

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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.

A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.

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