Islanders Gameday: Evgeni Nabokov's 1st Battle of New York
by Dominik on Oct 15, 2011 12:01 PM EDT
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PrintThe Short Island Smurfs visit for their first post-Europe game without Marc Staal, without Michael Sauer, and with young Michael Del Zotto and Tim Erixon joining Jeff Woywitka on a blueline that is much more inspiring when healthy. Their offense and powerplay haven't clicked yet, Brad Richards and Marion Gaborik are susceptible to the Frans treatment, and these first games back from Europe can be a tough go.
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There is opportunity for the Islanders to pounce here, as some Rangers fans fear. But their team does still have Henrik Lundqvist.
The Islanders, they have Evgeni Nabokov. He gets his first Islanders start tonight, and one wonders if it would have been Rick DiPietro's if not for a Brian Rolston slapshot to the head.
I'm not a big believer in Nabokov -- not the way our many Sharks fan visitors are. But I like the idea of having him around. Competition is good. Insurance is good. Goalies can surprise you good and bad. The Islanders don't play again until Thursday, on their early Florida trip, so while Al Montoya has been grand, giving Nabby a look now might just keep his head in the competition.
Links
- As the Kirill turns: The Kirill Kabanov SEL tryout is for real, but the QMJHL's Armada have found a taker for his rights; Shawnigan traded for him. [FanShot] Yahoo post (English!) here.
- Rick DiPietro concussion coverage: Post | ESPN | Official site
- 5 & 16.
- This rivalry could use two good teams. [Brooks - so I neither read nor vetted it. I think there's a nice Biron quote in there though.]
- Stream of NYI-NYR updates at SBN.
- Fantasy owners already bummed with Michael Grabner?
- Audio Interviews: John Tavares on HNIC Radio. Matt Moulson on NHL Live (about half way through). Jack Capuano on XM Home Ice. Bob McKenzie on the same (about 3/4 through).
- Matt Moulson was ribbing a Hall of Famer (to be).
- The Sun sets in the West: Coliseum, research lab in new county plan.
- Very scary moment for Jason Blake last night. Hope surgery went well.
- The three Metro teams lacking da powah in da powah rankings.
- I know we have a lot of fantasy players here; just another plug for SBN's Fantasy Hockey Scouts, where they have daily injury and performance updates to go along with some interactive discussion.
- Ron Wilson doesn't like it when you come over in a trade and pop off about playing time two games into the season.
- The Ref: Fraser: When do you NOT call a fighting major?
- McKenzie on that Asham-Beagle incident.
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Was thinking the same thing
The Islanders’ next game is Thursday. If Nabokov doesn’t play tonight, then he would have sat for almost a month. I trust Captain Jack’s gut.
I love Al. He’s been great. But he’ll get 5 more cracks at the Rangers this season.
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by PGI on Oct 15, 2011 12:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
3:1
Is a good ratio for a starter, especially with a former all star as your backup. You don’t want to give Nabby the feeling that he’s being completely left out, either, and get him demoralized and wishing he had stayed home another year. Now if he stinks it up tonight, we may want to move toward 4:1.
by Paumanok on Oct 15, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Youre right.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Oct 15, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to criticize Cappy, but all the same.....
…..I think it’s a bit of a slap in the face to Al for Nabby to get this start, against Montoya’s former team and our archrival (although that might now be Pittsburgh, all in all!)
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Errr well no it's not even close.
Al’s played 3 games in a row to start the season. He knows he has Capuano’s trust.
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How is it a slap when he played him three in a row?
You could almost argue it’d be more of a slap if the first time he sat him was after a first loss where he allowed only one goal.
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Again, because it's his former team, and not just ANY one at that.....
…..my take is that he’s fully earned the opportunity – playing Evgeny in the NEXT game won’t make that much of a difference…..will it?
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It may
if DP is back by Tuesday, the first start Montoya doesn’t get is going to be one controversy or another. (DP with hurt feelings/franchise goalie/ Nabokov hurt feelings perennial all-star/why did they bother keeping me). All of that can be even worse if the choice Cappy does make shits the bed.
DP was only officially announced as “out indefinitely” sometime Thursday…which may have been after Montoya was announced as the starter (I can’t remember). Since I don’t get the sense that DP will be out long term, this looks like the only way to avoid controversy.
Now when the next start is available, Cappy can look at Nabokov and say, “hey, you already had a turn” and not have it be a big deal. Monty can come in in relief if necessary, but I think Nabby will be fine.
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What if DP is back and Cap plays him Thursday?
Then Al has more than a week off after being stellar in the 1st 3 games?
I only buy this start if Montoya is guaranteed to play on Thursday night. We all know that when DP is around there are not guarantees.
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Oct 15, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what I think
AM gets the next start or two regardless of whether DP is back. If DP comes back quickly, he gets the next non-AM start…unless Nabby is absolutely stellar with a 45 sv SO.
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by Keith Quinn on Oct 15, 2011 4:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yea Keith
best scenario would be Nabby has a strong game, we win, but does not seat Montoya. The fact that DP is injured may give us the opportunity to show off Nabby for some starts. Now that we have 2 other goalies, the Isles should not rush DP back. Let him recover, because I am ok with him being our back up when he is healthy.
The fact that Nabby did not want to be here in the 1st place, he has a ton to prove and we could use that to our advantage.
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Oct 15, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Had a feeling
Nabby was going to get this one (why I polled everyone in the thread yesterday). It makes sense for a few of the reasons you’ve all mentioned-the schedule, DP being hurt so there is no controversy there. I also think that they probably don’t want to push Montoya too hard, given he’s coming off surgery as well.
You also wonder if Cappy hopes that Nabby throws a shutout and pushes DP to the press box even when he comes back…
Tavares is Tavares.
I've been thinking about the knee too
Wasn’t one of DP’s early knee issues just (heh, “just”) a meniscus like Montoya’s this past summer? Handle with care.
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Lets not even talk about this
Just ignore it, like after a nervous breakdown at a family reunion. Just smile and act like everythings great (more iced-tea anyone?). But seriously, a few strong games from Nabby would give us great options…I’m still hopeful Garth will upgrade our defense at some point this season.
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If that happens, we will be rocking
(Goaltending and defense, not the family reunion nervous breakdown.)
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Not really a fan of Nabokov starting
Did we start DP the first few games to see what he can do and waste games experiementing? No, Cap started Montoya those first 3 games becasue he wanted to win. I think you go with the guy who you think will give you the W, especially against a division foe and especially while the Rangers are reeling. We’ll be off the whole week almost, Montoya can rest then. I’m fine with Nabokov getting starts, but I want to have a some real momentum first before we do science experiements.
by Isles2011 on Oct 15, 2011 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I guess the theory is Nabokov is no experiment
They liked him in preseason and they absolutely need to use two or more goalies this year, so I imagine their perspective is they need to get that rotation in action before they’re already at Oct. 20.
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No question
He is the back-up goalie for now anyway and needs to be tested. And he may still have what it takes, but we can only find out in a real game. And anyway, Al might appreciate a night off every now and then.
and if he's been sitting for while than the Rangers game should get him focused
the atmosphere, and the rivalry can keep a goalie’s focus, especially since he’s been sitting since the preseason.
3:1 ...
Good ratio, indeed, Paumanok. Allows Al & Nabby rest & friendly rivalry.Keeps them both involved & ready. Always best to have 2 goalies in a regular rotation. e.g. Smitty & Chico… sigh.
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by IslanderDoug on Oct 15, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
and there’s no reason to believe that the #1 spot will be held by the same dude as the season moves along.
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by IslanderDoug on Oct 15, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I read this differently
I believe that DP is out for a long time and Nabby better get into the swing soon or the man off the bench will be real rusty.
DP's already riding the bike with zero issues
Unless they’re covering a setback on a different part of the body, I don’t think this concussion puts him out very long at all.
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Thats what I was figuring
Since he was at NVMC hanging out, its not like he was laying in a dark room.
The media jumped all over this and were like OMG OMG “INDEFINITE”!!! but all indefinite really means is “we dont know” not “long ass time”.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 16, 2011 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions
who cares who's in goal...
rangers have no staal and no sauer. isles put the puck in the net anyways so what’s there to worry about? nabby will be alright. worst case scenario: he has a rough 1st period, montoya steps in, and the isles still put it up on the board.
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Great point
Absolutely a game where we need to press them and set the tempo, not let the game come to us. Lots of puck possession, lots of deep forechecking.
Tavares is Tavares.
by afrosupreme on Oct 15, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Rangers have Lundqvist
Guy can make a mountain out of a mole hill. Isles need to come on fast and strong in this game and really challenge Henrik.
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or at least go high glove side on him
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 15, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
And don't even bother trying to shoot near his mask, he loves heading the puck.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
I'll be in a wedding when the puck drops
Can any one tell me when a full game is usually available for on-demand viewing with NHL GameCenter LIVE?
"I'm afraid that I just blue myself." - Tobias Funke
I might have to watch it in the wee hours of the morning then
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I hope to be watching several weddings
marriages between pucks and the Rangers goal
by Isles2011 on Oct 15, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
sniff sniff I always cry at 6-nothing blowouts
by Isles2011 on Oct 15, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Only a Rangers Fan...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4AlDQT5sM8
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Don't worry about the goalie
We are playing the Rangers, and this is what is important
by 7:11_OT on Oct 15, 2011 12:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I prefer this in song:
http://video.adultswim.com/robot-chicken/what-is-best-in-life.html
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by garik16 on Oct 15, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
NO!
Stop that! No. I don’t believe for one second that Conan would resort to interpretive dance to explain what is best in life. The man banged a hot “witch” then immediately threw her in a fire. Krom laughs at your four winds.
You should've seen her face. It was the exact same look my father gave me when I told him I wanted to be a ventriloquist.
Perhaps the theory with Nabby starting is
The Islander fans will be going at the Rangers, so Nabby will be able to slip in with less of a hard time from fans. Plus, if he gets the win then he will be the goalie that took down the Rags. Overall, I’m glad Nabby finally gets a start, I’m hoping he does well tonight and can help us this season.
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Few quick questions
Why the heck is Montoya not starting?
Is Nabokov the unhappiest man in the world?
When are the Islanders first wearing their third jerseys?
Why do I ask so many questions?
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Quick answers
1) See above.
2) Surely not.
3) Hopefully never. Or only once and then never again.
4) Because you enjoy that sort of thing.
Perhaps
all the questions will be answered tonight … except #4.
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by IslanderDoug on Oct 15, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Because the Islanders are better than the Rangers.
by DCyanks21 on Oct 15, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha
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Indeed.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 16, 2011 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions
BComptonNHL Brian Compton
Trevor Gillies has been activated off the IR. #Isles
34 seconds ago
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FIF (First Islander Fight) Competition?
Trevor Gillies (0:05)
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Whenever a player is "activated off the IR",
I envision them being turned on like some advanced hyperalloy combat machine, to begin final warming before commencing a full throttled attack
by Isles2011 on Oct 15, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
All right, listen:
Gillies is an infiltration unit: part man, part machine. Underneath, it’s a hyper-alloy combat chassis, microprocessor-controlled. Fully armored; very tough. But outside, it’s living human tissue: flesh, skin, hair, blood – grown for the cyborgs. They look human… sweat, bad breath, everything. Very hard to spot. I had to wait till he was thrown out of a game before I could zero him.
If you don’t believe me I have some rare footage of others being built at the same factory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4PcWepywNM
Epic
Greatest movie of all time and greatest teaser. I’m heavily debating putting it on right now (DVD though, the bluray kills the movie by exposing the effects as total jokes :(
You should've seen her face. It was the exact same look my father gave me when I told him I wanted to be a ventriloquist.
FIS (first Islanders suspension)
Gillies, NYI, for being Trevor Gillies (0:06)
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by PGI on Oct 15, 2011 1:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, but in those 6 seconds of playing time
He really handled his time off the puck well
All he'd have to go with is Prust really
so I’m not sure he’ll even play or fight if he does. He was throwing some nice hits though and he didn’t look too bad in preseason, so maybe he gets in.
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I don’t think Prust would fight Gillies with Rupp around.
I look forward to the unnecessary sideshow.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 15, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Forgot about Rupp!
Although I don’t think he’s Gillies class either. I really think this one may go the route of good hard hockey. But usually when I say shit like that, I’m dead wrong.
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Will he
play or is Cappy sending a “subtle” message?
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by IslanderDoug on Oct 15, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think the Islanders need him
Or at least not right now. The Islanders have been chippy their first three games. They have been ready to push and shove after the whistle and with Shanny on the loose Cappy doesn’t need to play Gillies tonight. Plus, as a last note, the fourth line has been very good so there really isn’t a place for Gilles to play.
All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.
Hopefully
This does not mean Gillies is playing. I prefer they roll 4 lines rather than having a pointless goon-on-goon fight.
by Dorfer on Oct 15, 2011 2:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Gillies is playing after the beating JT took the other night
Write it down.
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by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 15, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Haley
on his way to the Coli, too?
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by IslanderDoug on Oct 15, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
You think Rupp is even going to make it a real fight?
Rupp sometimes looks decent fighting big guys, and sometimes just gets destroyed bad. I mean, I think Jackman could even beat Rupp in a fight.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
No
Think he is day to day right now. Here is the team transaction page
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Gotta see what shape Nabby is in, now that the 3 headed monster is resolved for the moment
He has to play to have any value, whether it’s to the Isles or as trade bait, even with DP’s 4th? concussion……If I recall, Smitty didn’t start more than 45-50 games a season. I think Melanson actually started more games than him during one season ( The Jennings season?, though I may be wrong without actually looking it up). We all know who got the playoff starts!
Just got a new home jersey . Will “I’ve Fallen, And I Can’t Get Up” fit if I put 31 on the back of it? Didn’t think Rolston could shoot that hard at his age, or are the concussion issues bigger than the Knee/hip ones now?
Good to see Gillies off IR. Would like to see Haley in the lineup tonight. Celebrating 50 years of FGS on this planet tonight. HAve a good one folks!
"Is that all you got, I'll take your best shot......Here comes the BOOM!"
Happy Birthday!
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
by OzzyFan on Oct 15, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Happy birthday FGS, Heres to
A long life, and a happy one
A pretty girl, and an honest one
A cold beer, and a second one
A good game, and another won
Lets Go Isles!!
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Cheers, FGS
Hope it was a good one. (I know the Isles did their part.)
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Nabokov
Going to the game tonight and am a little disappointed that Nabby’s getting the start. I’ve been to a handful of games and have never actually seen and Islander win. I would have liked to see Montoya get the start because I really feel like he would give me the best chance to see a W.
Hopefully Nabby doesn’t show any rust and doesn’t put up a stinker.
Take em to the jabrone-zone
If Nabby really was our 3rd stringer behind DP, this could be a long night.
I hope not, but with all the Rag fans that are gonna be in the house, there is gonna be a lot of pressure on Nab. This could be a blessing in disguise or a disaster. And knowing Torts, he has probably run the smurfs to the ground for losing their 1st 2, even if in OT/shootout. They are gonna be coming for blood, we can’t make any mistakes tonight.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Another reason for Nabby is..........
that DP will be out for a long period and if Nabby can’t do it then they better start warming up in the Bridge bullpen now
Well that can be reasonably assumed
but with this injury, not confirmed/accurate that “indefinitely” means “a long time”…it can, but not yet.
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@nyifancentral Gillies is 23rd on active roster (DP is still active) IR as of today: Nino, Katic, Rhett
4 minutes ago
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Above is From Hornick
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HEY YOU GUYS.....
don’t get your panties in a twist about Nabby. This is not his first rodeo, he knows the atmosphere and what is at stake. He will play to his abilities. If our D plays the rangers to the perimeter like last game all he will be facing is golf swings. The guy needs the reps or else he will become stale.
Montoya would have been nice, playing against his former team, but he will be there too. Keep the guy on the up and ready for next week.
Lets just get ready for what should be an intense game both ways.
by ghalbart on Oct 15, 2011 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Hornick is so good...if you're not following him, you should be
ehornick Eric Hornick
Tale of the tape: with Gillies active: Average #Isles 6’1, 202.5 Average #NYR 6’1 203.5 Isles have 7 on rosters born in 70s; NYR only 2
2 minutes ago
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by Keith Quinn on Oct 15, 2011 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yo Keith
do you think that includes Jurcina?
"Goaltender is a normal job. Sure. How would you like it if at your job, every time you made the slightest mistake a little red light went on over your head and 18,000 people stood up and screamed at you?" - Jaques Plante
No
Jurcina is on IR, so not active. Wouldn’t include Nino either.
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Sorry, that's right
Also day to day with groin. It was niño and gillies. My bad!
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by Keith Quinn on Oct 15, 2011 3:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not your fault
The Islanders or the NHL could at least list injured players on their site, like TSN does. I don’t think it’s asking too much.
I know there are the monthly transaction pages, but they are a mess. A simple chart would be so much clearer.
Eric Hornick is a good source.
After every game he will mention who is injured and things like that.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 16, 2011 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions
People are forgetting the most important part of this game
The Rangers Suck
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by ArsenalLI on Oct 15, 2011 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Filthy Rag$
Theyre Gehbage!
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"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 15, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Off topic but has anyone ever seen this as a proposal to get rid of SO
mattclausen Matt Clausen
wanna completely change the Playoff race for the #NHL get rid of OTL as a stat and give 1 point for OTW.
6 minutes ago
I really like it! Very simple, would encourage teams to square things up in regulation, wouldn’t reward losing at all, and wouldn’t reward the OT winner because they would still be falling behind the rest of the pack who won in regulation. It’s simple and genius at the same time. But I’ve never seen it pitched.
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Good in theory, but
With no SO, TOI would increase and so would injuries. This from an Islander fan
"Goaltender is a normal job. Sure. How would you like it if at your job, every time you made the slightest mistake a little red light went on over your head and 18,000 people stood up and screamed at you?" - Jaques Plante
Well, I doubt anybody is arguing sudden death play till you lose
what I meant was if still tied after overtime, nobody gets points.
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So only way to earn pts would be a regulation win?
Another idea: Regulation win = 2 pts. Tie (10:00 min OT period) = 1 pt to each
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No
you get 1 point for an OT win and 0 for a tie. What you have going there is the original formula…which I guess I’m fine with, but the alleged reason they went away from it was because of too many ties. I feel like getting less points would encourage teams to empty the chamber in regulation and not play for “the charity point”.
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The 3-2-1-0 system is still better for that. While it doesn’t force you to ‘empty the chamber’ as it were, reliance on OT/SO would leave you trailing the teams that do put away games in regulation.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 15, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, either would work
Not a fan if the SO and the magical extra point. In my perfect world, I’m getting rid of the SO.
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by Keith Quinn on Oct 15, 2011 3:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is the only way to work it. Pay attention:
5 pts for regulation win
4 pts for OT win
3 pts for SO win
2 pts for SO loss
1 pt for OT loss
0 pts for regulation loss
-1 pt for booing a Hockey Against Cancer video
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 15, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Is the NHL taking out a 10 page ad to list their standings in the papers every day?
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by George E. Ays on Oct 15, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What are "papers?"
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by Dominik on Oct 15, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
gotcha
I knew I was misreading something
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I’m no fan of any system that awards a different amount of points for different games.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 15, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed
I’d prefer either a return to the old days with ties (ain’t gonna happen) or the introduction of the 3-2-1-0 system à la KHL*. Arguments that claim that the latter would reduce comparability ignore the fact that the current system is a major departure from previous ones to begin with (and more subtly and deceptively so).
- 3 for a win, 2 for OTW, 1 for OTL, 0 for loss
THAT, in a nutshell, is the issue
They already wrecked the historical context of points back in 2001. Making 3-point games would at least return the equal value of a game.
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I'd love if it went back to sudden death OT with no points to the loser.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
I kind of liked the proposal
at least with the Coliseum moving to Belmont and turning the current NVMC into an extension (sort-of) of Hofstra, with more green space, etc. Of course, I find it hilarious (in a sad and enbittering kind of way) that there is a proposal for a transportation hub in the plans.
Sure transportation hub for a R&D place, but not one for a sports arena?
I don't think it will ever walk
they moved the Coli away from Wang’s hotel which is now surrounded by residences and put up a new hotel right next to the new Coli. Very presumptuous and dicky if CW’s name isn’t on that hotel.
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Was reading Blueshirt a bit
Apparently they aren’t big on PAP still, attributing his offensive production to Tavares making him look good. They also think Staal is better than Streit.
I really hope we smack them around tonight.
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Staal/Streit isn't an easy comparison
Different skill sets. I’d like to see a Staal/Hamonic comparison in a couple of years. The PAP thing is weird. I can see where they’re coming from, but there is a different chemistry to the place he is in now. I don’t really see him living off of JT’s fat, I see him contributing to his success, but I do think that it is a weird chemistry thing and that PAP may struggle on other lines. (Here or elsewhere)
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Assume both are on 1 year contracts, would you do a trade Streit for Staal?
I don’t think most people would.
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It would hurt me
but yes, I would. Given good health by both, Staal has a lot of years of hockey in him. Also depends on current salary/signability etc. but just due to talent and age, I think you’d have to. You’d have Staal/Amac/Hammer/deHaan/Mayfield and Donovan. A decent amount of size and speed with nice combos available and very young and locked in.
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thats why i said 1 year deals
there’s no guarantee either stays, its just based on who you think is better right now, this year.
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This year
Streit…especially because he’s healthy, but if I was thinking about the future, Staal.
I still don’t think it’s an easy comparison though.
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by Keith Quinn on Oct 15, 2011 4:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s still not that simple. I think with Hamonic and McDonald there as capable puck movers, the Isles would be better off with Staal’s considerable defensive acumen (and whose offense is underrated, and still developing).
That’s ignoring the health thing for Staal right now of course.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 15, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
FTR, Hamonic is 3 years younger than Staal.
So, while the Isles might be better with a healthy Staal now (Which isn’t saying much, since he’s probably a top 10 defender), doesn’t mean the same over the long run.
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No, but Streit’s 34 already, so if we’re flipping back to the future argument, then it’s a debate again. I mean, for all we know De Haan is better than all of them
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by George E. Ays on Oct 15, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't talking streit. I'd take Staal in a heartbeat.
I was talking Hamonic. (Not worth talking about De Haan till he does something int he NHL – and the odds are very strong he’s worse than Hamonic)
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I’m confused then, the question was Staal or Streit for this year. How good Hamonic is 3 years from now wouldn’t play into it.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 15, 2011 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry misinterpreted your statement here:
I think with Hamonic and McDonald there as capable puck movers, the Isles would be better off with Staal’s considerable defensive acumen (and whose offense is underrated, and still developing).
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Gotcha, yeah I just meant for this season.
Similarly, for just this season I probably take Streit on the Rangers over Staal, because with Girardi/McDonagh/Sauer, they should be able to handle the tough opponents enough that Streit’s offense would take priority.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 15, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was my point...it actually fits both pretty well
The Isles are ridden with smallish puck moving D (none remotely close to Streit at this point), but the “shutdown crease clearer” type is still a bit up in the air. (although Hamonic looks to be approaching that very quickly).
Especially considering the “34” number, it would have to BR given heavy consideration by Snow…even with the captaincy.
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by Keith Quinn on Oct 15, 2011 5:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My argument was based on right now Streit is the better player, which I didn’t really see people admitting in the comment section at BSB.
However, I think any rational fan would take Staal long term because he’s got age on his side.
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Streit is the better player, which I didn’t really see people admitting in the comment section at BSB.
Because I don’t think it’s that cut and dry. Streit’s better offensively, Staal’s better defensively. The question is Streit’s defense vs Staal’s offense, which is pretty close. It’s not surprising you would take your guy, and the Rangers’ fans would take theirs.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 15, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it'd be interesting to see Corsi #'s from Staal last year vs Streit the previous when he was healthy
(although I’m not sure where to find them)
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Hard to compare them
Staal played tougher defensive minutes, Streit more offensive minutes
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Errr actually i was referring to Streit's 08-09, when he was Norris quality.
but the same is true of 09-10, Staal played insanely tough competition last year, even tougher than Streit.
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Staal’s CRQoC was 2nd highest in the NHL last year, behind only Lidstrom. Insane doesn’t do it justice.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 15, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
those are crazy
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I think Callahan played the hardest in the NHL.
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I meant among defensemen. English is hard.
Rangers had 5 of the top 11 overall (Cally 1, Staal 3, Girardi 4, Dubinsky 8, Anisimov 11)
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by George E. Ays on Oct 15, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I know what you meant
Tortorella is going to cause mental breakdowns.
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It makes me wonder how good that entire forward line would be if he didn’t drown them every year.
I also think it’s funny when fans say Stepan’s ahead of Anisimov at this point.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 15, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Stepan would be a nice fit alongside the Sedins.
Oh wait, wrong team.
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I’d be a nice fit alongside the Sedins.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 15, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
You know what I meant.
lol.
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Indeed I did.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 15, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
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“Someone call me?”
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Cally has just been tremendous so far.
I’d love for Okposo to throw the body like that. And Cally has been a better goal scorer, and good “checking” forward too. Cally easily has the edge their, he earned his C.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
KO was tremendous for almost 2 seasons...His had 19 goals in his 1st full season...
It wasn’t that long ago everyone described KO as a BEAST… Most of last season was shot from his injury…So, maybe he will find it again and when he does I cant say that Cally is any better than KO…Not at all…
I know what you are saying, but still.
But when we break down the stats and corsi info, callahan is better. And even when we put in the “extracurricular/intangibles”, Callahan spreads his lead.
Callahan has been a consistent 20goals/40pts player his last 3yrs, while last year he was on his way to a 30goal/65pts season before biting the injury bug.
vs
Okposo doesn’t have a big track record, but looked like a 20goal/40-50pts player before he got hurt. He has more time to prove himself, but Callahan’s repeat production and elevation last year makes him win the production battle.
Both are used in checking roles, but Callahan faces tougher CorRelQofComp then Okposo does, much tougher if he’s going to be used like he was last year again. But relative to their competition, I think they are somewhat similar corsi wise 2-way, although it’s really hard to say given how tough Callahan’s competition was last year.
Intangibles, Callahan throws about 4X’s the amount of checks Okposo does. Callahan is more of a leader then Okposo is on and off the ice(thus the C). Callahan is on their top PK and top PP unit, while we know what KO does. Callahan has a better Takeaway/Giveaway ratio. Callahan is more of a battler then KO is, has more heart “from looking at it”.
Don’t get me wrong, I think Okposo is great, but he isn’t as good as Callahan yet, and may never be. Callahan is that forward that is really good at just about everything, say a Mike-Richards-lite sort of. Okposo isn’t as dominant/great at everything as Callahan is, he could be, but he isn’t yet.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Im going by my own 2 eyes and by what I have seen...
The fact of the matter is I haven’t seen that much of Cally but I didn’t know he was that great a goal scorer….I thought he was more of blue collar type…Works hard and makes things happen by being physical and relentless skating as well as a sound defensive guy who plays well on the PK…
KO has really disappointed me lately, like he cares what I think..But this guy should be able to put up better numbers, for sure…If I were Cappy I would seriously push his buttons…I think it was in his 1st season, Gordon spoke with him and asked him about what kind of player he wants to be…That he needs to skate as if every shift is his last…I light bulb went on and from that point he was a BEAST every night for the rest of that year and then all of his 2nd full season…That’s why I used KO21 as my screen name…I thought KO had the “IT” factor…Last year, he wasn’t crashing the net either until the last 5 or 10 games when he started to do that…He was going to the net and even crashed into a couple goalies which is a sign that he was doing what he needs to do…I hope he gets it again…It will always baffle me that hes not required to take the body…I remember wjhen Gordon sent Comeau down to the AHL because he wasn’t hitting…When Blake came back he was making things happen why making hits and playing physical…Makes me wonder why KO isn’t expected to do the same…Makes me wonder why the coaches aren’t demanding this out of many of the players…In fact, why isn’t Comeau hitting anymore as well???
Yeah, it's even more baffling considering we are "weak" in those type of players on our roster. Why not try to fill that void?
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
The only guy that throws his boy around is Matt Martin...
In the last game, you can actually see when MM chipped the puck in to forecheck the Ranger dmen would be looking over their shoulders expecting to be smashed…That creates space and makes apposing players think about getting rid of the puck fast which causes turnovers…Thats called being effective…I’m excited about MM…I wonder how good he can become..
And when we say Staal played tougher defensive minutes, we are talking some of the toughest of any d-man in the league.
It’s just crazy seeing how tough of corsiRelqualOfComp he plays
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Am I missing something with Streit having more Offensive minutes?
Their offensive zone starts seem to be very similar.
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Their last seasons, yes. They’re basically even by Corsi, probably edge Staal once someone figures out a way to adjust Corsi by QoC rather than just Zone Starts.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 15, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
watched hockey my whole life
but corsi figures are like binary code to me. I’ll take both ya’lls word for it and agree that both players are good at what they do.
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Heh..it’s not that bad. All it is a count of the number of shots on ice while the players are out there, which approximates time of possession in each zone.
It’s not a great measure for defensive prowess, but it does tell a decent enough story.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 15, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
See it's not that complicated
The problem is you need to look at 3-4 different numbers to get a complete picture, and one number by itself isnt very helpful.
So it looks worse than it is.
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I must admit
The extent of me attempting to learn it was probably about 5 minutes, and I had no idea what the headers of random CoRoQ’s and other stuff. So I sort of just gave up. Fail :(
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check out Garik's "Intro to Hockey Analytics/Stats" series
You can search it in fanposts, lays out everything so even if you don’t get it all you can probably grasp a simple understanding of it. (which is basically what I’ve done)
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It really depends on who Streit is at this point.
I’m not sure how he is post-injury, despite looking good so far. If he’s 2008-09 Streit, yeah he’s good. But that’s 3 years ago and an injury ago.
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That’s ignoring the health thing for Staal right now of course.
Why not ignore it? Doesn’t Glen Sather?
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You’re welcome to argue it there, but I’ll clarify my statement here since I’m the one who said it’s Tavares’ doing.
I’m not like the others that say Parenteau is a nothing player. He was always an offensive talent, that was clear even with the 3rd/4th line minutes he got in his limited stint with the Rangers. He did put up 8 points in 22 games (about a 30 point/82 game pace). That’s where I see his skill level at. I think those extra 20 points has a lot to do with being able to play 1st line minutes and extended PP time with one of best young centers in the league, let alone having Moulson there also.
PAP was still only 7th on the Isles last year in ES points per 60 (he’s at 1.62), which is worse than several of the Rangers’ forwards as well over the last two years. I think it’s understandable that he’s not being missed from our team, or to think he’s not nearly as talented as his boxscore’s presented him to be last year.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 15, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
He's probably least of top-6 for Isles
…but still a capable top-6. Over the summer, Isles fans were arguing whether PAP or Comeau is better for Isles. It is a close call, I think. So far this season PAP is.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 15, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
If I’m keeping one, I’m keeping Comeau, and I don’t think it’s close. It’s so hard to argue the ‘chemistry’ angle that I can see it being a considerable debate.
Of course, I’m not sure why it matters, unless you guys are still trying to form a 3rd line ‘checking’ line, even when you have Nielsen’s line perfectly capable of checking anyone and could better use the 3rd line as another skill line.
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by George E. Ays on Oct 15, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Well the issue has always been that Comeau seems to have more potential, but he gets lazy for long streches of time.
I think he gets a bad rap personally, but the reason PAP is thought of as higher as he seems to never quit.
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by garik16 on Oct 15, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think PAP is a very effective PP specialist. 5-on-5 not as much.
I wouldn’t argue him a top line forward, middle 6 definitely. I’d prefer to label him a middle 6er over a 3rd liner because he can put up the points, although playing along 2 30goal scorers and 1 of them being playmaking JT does have it’s benefits.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Paps is a very good player...Its annoying when Isles fans don't see it but I don't give a crap if Rags fans want to admit it or not...
The fact of the matter is Paps can create plays and he compliments the top line with the way he battles and skates w the puck….Against the Bolts he really impressed me the way he powered his way into the offensive zone setting up the offense…
I'd take Staal over Streit in a second(barring lingering concussion issues).
Staal is tremendous defensively, big, has the potential to be great offensively, and is only getting better. Streit, not so much. Not to mention, you could argue that Staal is a better all around d-man now then Streit. Let’s not underrate Staal all because he’s a smurf.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
For Isles' purposes I would for this season
Staal is more physical than Streit. It would allow Hamonic and AMac to attack more. But I still like what Streit brings to Isles this season. With Streit, everyone around him scores more goals. (See Nielsen goal.)
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 15, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
How can you say that Staal is better all around???Streits one of the best offensive dmen in the NHL...
Staal cant hold a candle to Streits offense…To say Staals better all around would say that hes better offensively which is absolutly false…Unless Staal all of a sudden became one of the best offensive dmen in the league over night…
Look at the big picture.
Staal is an 8goals/30pts d-man while being an elite shutdown d-man. Streit is a 12goal/52pts d-man that is good defensively, but not elite. And Staal “should” get better while Streit is in his mid-30’s.
If we go based on team need, easily it’s Staal. We aren’t full of “big” shutdown d-man that can move the puck. Hamonic is the closest thing to that, and nobody else on the team or close to the nhl is that.
If we go based on career/now-forward, we gotta take Staal because he’s a lot younger.
And if we go overall recently, I think we gotta go Staal. His corsi numbers given his RelQofComp are just unreal. I’ll just post some numbers from “both players” last full season:
Staal: 6’4’’ 210lbs
Corsi Rel QoC: 1.602
CorsiRel: -4.5
O-Zone start : 48.2
Offensive stats: 7goals/29pts
Streit: 5’11’’ 195lbs
Corsi Rel QoC: 0.555
CorsiRel: +4.8
O-Zone start : 46.8
Offensive stats: 11goals/49pts
Comparing Staal and Streit’s corsi numbers and competition numbers shows Staal to be a better “all around defenseman”, meaning technically Staal’s defense outweighs Streit’s offense positively shots/competition-wise. Then you go into the argument, “would streit be able to put up the stats he does against Staal’s competition?”, the answer is highly unlikely. I’d say a great season for Streit against that type of competition Staal is facing is 8goals/35-40pts, but that’s a guesstimate, and with those stats I expect Streit’s coris to drop like a rock. And then if you want to debate it, do you think Staal has progressed into an 8goal/35ps should be player this year, closing the gap? And you could ask, do you think Streit is as good an offensive and 2-way as he has been in the past? For me, I take Staal when taking everything into account, that type of shutdown d-man with the type of offensive ceiling he has is too good to pass on. Sure, Streit has shown the o, but Streit isn’t the same dominant defensive d-man Staal is, and if Staal is given easier, but still top defensive pairing competition, I think he can put up 10goal/40pts season’s in the future. Staal is a lot better then the average hockey fan thinks he is. His offensive/plus-minus numbers don’t do him the justice he deserves. Staal is great, and only getting better. He is the top d-man in the NY/NJ area right now.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
I’m not a big believer in Nabokov
See! You are a Nabby hater … :(
As I have said before, I hope he can find fans here that love him as many still do in San Jose.
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by Keith Quinn on Oct 15, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He just needs to prove himself on the ice
Last season left many an Isles fan with a bad taste in their mouths w/r/t Nabby. He just didn’t handle the waiver claim very well, and many ’round here wanted him gone before the season started.
That said, he needs his reps, needs to get into games and show himself to still be a NHL goalie. No goalie starts 82 games.
Isles fans here are bitter towards him...
Im not one of them as long as he plays well and contributes…
I will love any goalie who stops the puck
I do not discriminate there. I will love DP if he becomes the DP Mike Milbury thought he was, and I will love Nabby if he becomes the Nabby his Sharks supporters think he is.
But I’m from the Show-Me State. ;)
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I should add...
…for me it’s not even one bit about how he handled the waiver claim. I’m just not convinced he can still be what he once was, nor that what he once was is as good as people think.
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Wonder how similar Blake's injury is to Yashin's?
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From the angle I saw, Yashin’s looked like more “side” of forearm where Blake’s looked like “top”.
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Why no love for PAP!?!?
He’s done more in his time here than anyone could have ever expected and has begun where he left off last year. Face it he has chemistry with Moulson and Tavares and the three compliment each other extremely well. IF IT AIN’T BROKE DON’T FIX IT!!!!!
by 54_Fighting on Oct 15, 2011 3:35 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
seriously
no seriously, PAP clicks with that line. They all hinge off each other and know exactly where the other one will be. PAP allows JT to be a sniper and JT allows PAP to shoot the puck, while Matty Ice can clean up the garbage quite well, along with making some nice passes.
Like you said, if it aint broke dont fix it.
by ghalbart on Oct 15, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like both
But so far PAP has gone into the traffic and BC is playing a little like RHS. But Blake is bigger and a big leaguer and will get his game together.
Finally made it to a game
flew in last night from phoenix to see family on the island. very excited to see my first game in 4 years. I really love our building…:) very excited. fuckin expensive tho even near god. maybe just because it’s a rangers game.
by IslesFanForLife on Oct 15, 2011 6:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
ps..
listening to billy joel on the way to new york islanders game is definitely the way to do it
by IslesFanForLife on Oct 15, 2011 6:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I didn't see that come
StapeNewsday: Trevor Gillies off IR for #Isles and, surprisingly, on the ice for warmups… Blake Comeau is not. Appears to be a late lineup change. [http://twitter.com/#!/StapeNewsday/status/125339192015331328]
NYIslanders: #Isles lines: Moulson-Tavares-Parenteau; Okposo-Nielsen-Grabner; Rolston-Bailey-Martin; Gillies-Reasoner-Pandolfo. [http://twitter.com/#!/NYIslanders/status/125339872914440192]
Just started watching the game
But is that guy who scored the first goal related to the LA Kings goalie?
by DavidSweden on Oct 15, 2011 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
E Nabokov- The Long Island Lolita
because nothing works better than duel literary and Amy Fischer references
Not to mention Peter Seller movies and Police songs
There is just so much fun you can have when you have a player named Nabakov
Why isnt KO driving to the net???
This guy should be contributing some offense…Also, I hope Grabs can get his game going again…
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The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.
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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.
Between the quarterfinals (where they beat the upstart Oilers in six games) and the finals, the Islanders reeled off eight consecutive wins -- with a four-game sweep of archrival Rangers in between. As they defeated the Minnesota North Stars in five games for their second Cup, their goal difference in the final was a combined +10.
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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.
A first-round scare against the Pittsburgh Penguins turned in the Isles' favor thanks to John Tonelli's heroics, and a true dynasty was on its way: Past the Rangers in six games, then an eight-game sweep of the Quebec Nordiques and Vancouver Canucks to run away with the Stanley Cup.
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May 17, 1983: Not so fast, whipper-snappers. The Edmonton Oilers' steadily rising challenge for league supremacy took them all the way to the finals for the first time, where the New York Islanders summarily dispatched them in a four-game sweep. For the Islanders, the Dynasty was secured. For the Oilers, it was a powerful lesson in where talent ends and the demands of playoff hockey begin.
Four years, four Cups, 16 consecutive playoff series wins (a record that would grow to 19 until the rematch with the Oilers the following year). Mike Bossy scored 60 goals yet again, and Wayne Gretzky became acquainted with Billy Smith's crease.
