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Islanders Gameday: Return of Bruno; Ryan Strome Returned to Niagara

Note: Breaking this a.m.: Orientation week now over, the Islanders have reassigned 2011 first-round pick Ryan Strome to his junior club in Niagara. Bet someone's coming off IR soon, too.

The Tampa Bay Lightning have lost Mattias Ohlund for 1-2 months with knee surgeries, which paved the way for ex-Islander Bruno Gervais to make his season debut -- and score -- in their 6-5 shootout loss to the Capitals.

In their next practice, coach Guy Boucher had them hitting the books on defensive positioning and awareness.

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Lightning (1-1-1) @ Islanders (1-1-0)
7 p.m. EDT | MSG+2 (twice the plus!) (Thanks, NBA lockout!) - audio - WRHU
Nassau [gloriously unsponsored] Veterans Memorial Coliseum
Static opposition: Raw Charge

Turnovers, penalties, losing battles, being outshot; these are the complaints for the Bolts after going 1-1-1 so far. Offense not clicking, too many penalties (some only "penalties") against the Wild -- these are the complaints for the Islanders going 1-1 so far.

Star-divide

Gervais logged not just a goal but an assist in 12:06 TOI in that debut. No doubt he'll find the same ex-Islander Fountain Of Use that brethren Nate Thompson, Sean Bergenheim, Marc-Andre Bergeron and Roloson have. (Add Eric Brewer, if you'd like to dig back that far. And of course Bergenheim has cashed in even further South now.)

Rick DiPietro took a Brian Rolston shot in the noggin at practice yesterday, right in the ol' Osgood cage. He left the ice and wasn't available to reporters afterward, but expect an update on his status today. The Islanders, in case you haven't heard, happen to have some insurance at this position.

In the other net, old pal Dwayne Roloson has played two of their three games thus far, stopping 70 of 76 shots. He went 1-0-1 against the Islanders last year, who took two points in three of the four meetings with the Lightning.

There was some insinuation that Capuano was upset with John Tavares' overall play after the Wild game, but that definitely sounds like one headline blowing one poor play (lost puck at the blueline) out of proportion. Despite going without a point, Tavares has created several scoring chances thus far and even helped create a goal he was no longer on the ice for (his substitute, Frans Nielsen, arrived to take the tally).

Capuano in the Post:

"When goal scorers aren't scoring, I try to stay away from them ... The last thing I want to do is make guys grab their sticks and play tighter."

...And at the official site:

"Well Johnny, he's had a lot of chances. He’s played really well defensively. His game in his own end is as good as it's ever been. I know over two games he's -2, but he’s played real well defensively."

Meanwhile, Tavares:

"I only had 3 shots on goal in my first two games, so I probably need to shoot more, but I don’t think I'm really forcing a whole lot... I thought I created a lot of opportunities."

It must've been a long summer for me, because I'd already forgotten how two games without a point from your top scorer is a story.

The real story is that no line's offense has been clicking. Theorize away about a light preseason game schedule or other factors, but within the games Tavares has been their most dangerous threat while each line has had at least one player not in full stride. (You can see slightly abbreviated scoring chance data compiled by Chris McNally here.)

Tonight against the tricky Lightning, another opportunity to snap out of all that ... and of course a chance to fall into the Boucher trap.

LHH Links of Note

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i'm going FIG free this season

they make me constipated

i foresee nate thompson mishandling a bruno pass, and grabner streaks in on roli to beat him for the OT winner

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by bob l on Oct 13, 2011 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

So you're going for a LIG?

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Oct 13, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

i guess, though

that wasn’t the intent… if i were doing that i would have somehow made it into the Weirdest Isles Goal (WIG)

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by bob l on Oct 13, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why so serious?

That Nielsen website is truly a labor of love. However, I would love to see one that incorporates all the wittiness and idolatry that floats around these parts for Frans.

by Uncle Zenon on Oct 13, 2011 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

I fear I've already raised his open-market price too much

Walk year, time to haggle: Frans sucks! $500k raise, max!

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

True

Sacrifices must be made.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh and btw, dom change the pic to...

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by bob l on Oct 13, 2011 9:35 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Damn It

Beat me to the punch.

Formerly a part time contributor and pittier of fools, now an Emeritus at Lighthouse Hockey.

by David Hanssen on Oct 13, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was waiting for this!

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by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I own that album on vinyl :)

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

because cassettes and cds

just don’t capture the pure sound as good as Vinyl does ;-)

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by bob l on Oct 13, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well- theres that CDs also did not exist when I bought it, thats a factor lol.
But hey- even one of those old longboxes would not have done that cover justice.

Bruce Willis…. nicccce.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Vinyl?

TMC, you are showing your age!

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Oct 13, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

ouch

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by bob l on Oct 13, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

I still have them too.

AND I own one 8-track. I used to own a few, but my dad went rummaging in the basement and threw them out around the time I was going into high school, along with my only 8 track player:

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

i used to have that too!

but mine was black i think… wonder if i still have it at my parents attic…

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by bob l on Oct 13, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is dark grey

I dont remember 2-XL coming in black, but Im not sure.
I loved that thing when I was a little kid.
That and Fashion Plates were probably my two favorites!

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know most of you do not remember this one.

I think they had a “guy” version, though- where it worked the same way only you made monsters.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had a neighbor who had COLORFORMS

I liked them and went to the drug store to get a set. I asked the pharmacist, who was mentally challenged and I wound up knocking out half the girls in the 1st grade.

It was more educational… and a whole lot more fun!

Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!

by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I remember it

But thats because I am a chick.

"If the bell needs to be answered, we've got the guys to answer it." "If they want to start something, that's fine."- Trevor Gillies

by JW1970 on Oct 13, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

:)

That is one of those toys I wish I had saved from the trash bin. Ive even thought about buying a used one just so I can see the clothes again lol.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 14, 2011 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I knew I remembered playing with that! :D

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 14, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

knowing my parents

i got the 1-XL or the 2-regular…

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by bob l on Oct 13, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quite a basement you must have...

8 track players
Betamax
The whole Black Sabbath pre-1980 dsicography on vinyl
3 NYIPB frequent posters wrapped in duct tape and forced to watch the march of the penguins, narrated by a howard cosell impersonator instead of morgan freeman

Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!

by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

SHHHH

Youre blowing my cover.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously Metal Chick, what is this?

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Oct 13, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

We already gave the name- it is 2-XL.
Wikipedia actually has a good writeup on 2-XL, thats where I got the pic. :)

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 14, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

A 6-3 record for October

They’ll beat everybody the rest of the month but the Pens and Sharks. FIG – Moulson from Tavares and Streit at 12:43 of the first on the PP. A Streit slapper from the point leaves a rebound for Tavares who makes a sweet feed across the crease for MM tap in.

by kennyboy13 on Oct 13, 2011 9:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Dom is always on the $$

Gotta hand it to him, best Isles site on the internet hands down. How is JT pointless over 2 games even a story. Ridiculous. I think he has been one of the best forwards overall over the first pair.

And I cannot believe that DiP is hurt already and in practice no less. He has to just hang them up at this point and let us save the cap space. Unbelievable. If a piano was falling out of the sky it would definitely land right on his head at this point! Did he break a mirror or something?

by Tazman19 on Oct 13, 2011 9:38 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

If a piano was falling out of the sky it would definitely land right on his head at this point! Did he break a mirror or something?

I’d love to see an episode of the Road Runner and Wile E. with a guest appearance by our oft-injured goalie. Deep! Deep!

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is to laugh
Deep! Deep!

STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!

by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Oct 13, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a story

because there aren’t any other stories going on (except for another possible injury to DiPietro and the Kirill Kabanov saga, available only in trade paperbacks at your local airport)

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by Fabtraption on Oct 13, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

DP hurt in practice?

You can’t make this stuff up!

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Oct 13, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

DP hurt - AGAIN!

If he’s out for any length of time, that at least eliminates Capuano having to take a chance on him. Sad that it’s come to this, but a team needing a serious playoff run can’t mess around in goal.

“DP is like a box a choclates. You never know which one yer gonna git.”

Kennyboy13
13 Octobre 2011

by kennyboy13 on Oct 13, 2011 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

TV Schedule Change

Per Eric Hornick:

Thursday’s game with the Lightning will air on MSG. It was originally scheduled for MSG+2 but due to the NBA lockout it has been moved to MSG.
After Thursday, all other Isles games this month are on MSG+.

So it looks like we’re getting zero time the plus, rather than twice the plus.

although I was really looking forward to that extra plus

by andrew430 on Oct 13, 2011 9:48 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Nooooo!

A plusless night.

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by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damnit!

Why do they do this last minute shit?
I am at work now, I am going straight from work to see Saxon in NYC, and now I am not recording the game.

God I hate this network.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

SAXON!

Where are they playing?

I bought a Wheels of Steel/Strong Arm of the Law double pack on iTunes for $10 a few years ago. One of the best deals ever. I want to hear more of their stuff but apparently these two albums represent the height of their powers.

"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science

by PGI on Oct 13, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

BBKings! :)

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice :)

Their classic stuff is great… but honestly, its their newer music that I think is their best. I would say that 1997-2007 is hte best decade Saxon ever had music-wise. Seriously. If you were to give some of their newer stuff a listen, I recommend Lionheart (the best album they ever made), Unleash the Beast, and Metalhead.
For classic stuff, go get Crusader and Rock the Nations to add to what youve got. :)

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

i would love to see Saxon

Most bands I love skip the southeast.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 13, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can you

set it via a website? I know some companies let you do that now.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

optimum app

works pretty well, better on ipod/iphone than on android, but still works – switch it up

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by bob l on Oct 13, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fios issue...

…that i just experienced while I was in NY is that you have to confirm the smartphone/internet access through the DVR first. I was all full of myself because last year I was setting the DVR remotely all the time… I forgot we got a new DVR in the off-season, and now I don’t have the first two games.

But you can get the NHL smartphone app and watch the game online while you’re at Saxon… or watch the archive when you get home.

Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!

by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone making all the phone/app suggestions

I do not have a smart phone, I have an enV2 (which pretty much nobody enVs anymore.)
But even if I did have one, I am not going to the Saxon concert to stand outside in the rain looking at an app lol- I LOVE this band and have looked forward to this show for months- Im gonna be inside in a basement with pretty much no reception listening to Biff and the boys! :)

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

You deserve...


And NO, I’m not gonna go there…

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

my wife worked at saxon

I'm a mets, jets, islander, and terps fan. Also known as a glutton for perennial punishment.

by longbeach on Oct 13, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mine were invaded by Saxons

And Turks…and Russians….

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by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy shit!

Saxon!!!!!!!! I haven’t heard them in years!!!!!

"If the bell needs to be answered, we've got the guys to answer it." "If they want to start something, that's fine."- Trevor Gillies

by JW1970 on Oct 13, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh for fuck's sake!

I JUST set my DVR last night to record the game and now it’s going to get all fucked up.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Oct 13, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Strome's been sent back

For anyone hanging out here and missing the update.

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by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 9:48 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Thank god we're not ruining his development anymore.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

How the heck do you do sarcasm font again

I keep forgetting

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Oct 13, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

@ text @
Remove the spaces before and after text and you get text

by Francesca on Oct 13, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

much obliged

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Oct 13, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now we have to kill you

It’s the rules.

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by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes!

I call the legs! They are full of great meat to eat!

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 13, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm coming out of this episode pleasantly surprised

I like the idea of hanging around for a small taste of what he will one day be a key part. But I was worried about 1) it lingering uncomfortably, pointlessly long, or 2) injuries putting him in the lineup, and coaxing them into thinking they should keep him.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I really couldn't understand them holding him around longer and not playing him.

Maybe they were “seeing” if we had a major injury that would force Strome in.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 13, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Conspiracy!

Rolston TOOK OUT THE WRONG GUY.

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by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

another team just did the same thing

carolina maybe with ryan murphy??? watched 3-4 games then got sent to jr’s

maybe its a new trend

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by bob l on Oct 13, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

been done for over a century, habs always did things like this

by CanadianIsleslifer on Oct 13, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember when the ancient Jews played hockey,

they made Moses watch a couple games from the pressbox when he was a teen, and it only made him stronger. He was a hell of an epic leader after that. Trust the system!

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 13, 2011 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

once we start getting into season we will click

we are becoming more of a finnese team, where we have to hit passes. It takes a few games, and a steady schedule of games to get it rolling. when we were a bruising team, we got started quicker, but fell off….so hopefully this season we are about to get our legs under us,a nd make a nice consistent run of games

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by Rickfansince76 on Oct 13, 2011 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I think there's plenty of time to click

I am probably extreme with my belief in not reading much into two games (or four, or eight), but I just think there is a line between analyzing what has happened and thinking it is a trend. I believe the top two lines will be generally what we expect. The third line … well that’s the canker sore in this puzzle.

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by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Montoya starting tonight?

It probably isn’t DP but maybe nabakov? I don’t know its always a surprise.

Don't feed the TROLL!...You have been warned.

by the maroon bird on Oct 13, 2011 9:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Strome

good, he doesn’t need to be with us sitting out. he needs to be on ice.

Does this mean that Nino is close to returning?

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by Rickfansince76 on Oct 13, 2011 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

No. He's still probably 2 weeks away.

Likely Gillies.

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by garik16 on Oct 13, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh great

don’t we start the game with a 2 minute minor for rostering him under the new rules?

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by bob l on Oct 13, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

No Shanahan actually seems to like him.

At least he used him as an example of a clean (yet heavy) hit the preseason.

by Paumanok on Oct 13, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

NYIslanders NYIslanders
Nino is still day-to-day, but someone will come off IR. Capuano says they will discuss that today. #isles

No Sleep 'til....Belmont?

by Anarcurt on Oct 13, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Please be Jurcina, please be Jurcina, please be Jurcina

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Oct 13, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Probably gillies I think

Games coming up against the Rags and Pens.

NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
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by Keith Quinn on Oct 13, 2011 11:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Jurcina actually wasn't on IR

But I know what you mean.

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by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Poor guy

DP just can’t catch a break.

KatieStrangESPN Katie Strang
Montoya in goal tonight; Nabokov backing up for #Isles. DiPietro to be re-evaluated today. Docs have not ruled out concussion
9 minutes ago

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by Fabtraption on Oct 13, 2011 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

it's really something else...

but not unheard of… i believe richter sustained a concussion from a shot in a game if memory serves…

his journey to getting back is becoming more arduous than Odysseus’

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by bob l on Oct 13, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shots to the head are tricky

It could be nothing, a concussion or something else.
Jonas Hiller had to sit out the remainder of the season after taking an apparently innocuous shot to the head at the All-Star game.
In DiPietro’s case they better stay on the safe side.

by Francesca on Oct 13, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that happened to Richter twice

One time chipping half of Lady Liberty off of his mask.

by Dorfer on Oct 13, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but did he have his entire fanbase bashing him for it.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Correct!

That was the major reason Ricther retired.

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Oct 13, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

No

But Richter wasn’t constantly hurt, and he also won some trophies for his fans and fellow countrymen.

With that said, I’m not one to bash DiPietro for getting hurt. If I bash him, it’s because he’s a terrible goaltender. Is he getting bashed for this current injury? Or is it more of “Oh geez, here we go again…”? I tend not to read IPB or PD comments, so not sure what that feel of non-LHH Isles fans is about this…

by Dorfer on Oct 13, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I remember Richter having recurring health concerns, actually. But even a bunch of frickin Rags fans were more respectful than our fanbase, where a guy is bashed and booed and whatever even while doing everything that was asked of him.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not saying DiPietro deserves to be hated on for being injured

But Richter had a Stanley Cup, World Cup, and Olympic silver and no 15 year contract before he began breaking down. DiPietro has 1 playoff win.

0% chance DiPietro gets as much hate as he does now if these injuries occurred after he accomplished all that Richter had, even with that contract.

by Dorfer on Oct 13, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely.

But in retrospect, if he HAD been hurt earlier before he did all of that, knowing now what he was capable of achieving, wouldnt the people bashing him as a POS be wrong?

Im just tired of the guy getting the shit bashed out of him for injuries while guys who DWI or divorce their wives and marry her sister and do drugs while under contract are given so much more of a pass. Its messed up.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the media for you, and "stupid" fans.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 13, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm really not unhappy about this.

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by garik16 on Oct 13, 2011 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

If it wasn't DP

this wouldn’t be a story. The bottom of the Post story says

DiPietro was evaluated and no injury was determined. He will be re-evaluated before tonight’s game.

A concussion sounds like a long shot, but with everything that’s going on lately I’d rather they be safe then sorry when it comes to concussions.

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by Mark D on Oct 13, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also remember

it’s the Islanders.

Freak injuries are our wont.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Oct 13, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I am actually not upset by this

Don’t get me wrong, I feel bad for DP as he has been though more injuries than any goaltender in the league, but I liked what I saw from Nabby when he was in net, during preseason and I think he could be a solid backup goaltender. I want him to do well. Either he plays well and he helps us as Montoya’s backup, or he plays well and we trade him.

All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.

by pippup on Oct 13, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is my birthday today

and all I want is for the Islanders to win themselves a game.

See how selfless I am?

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Oct 13, 2011 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Happy birthday

and may your wish come true.

by Paumanok on Oct 13, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Happy birthday!

I’m so selfless, I hope your favorite player scores a hat trick instead of Frans Nielsen.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy Birthday :)

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy Birthday!

If the isles win, please send your gifts to 555 North Washington St, Massapequa, NY 11758. And you're welcome for making it happen. If they don't win, my voodoo powers have not yet been mastered and I apologize. Maybe I should just make a Stamkos voodoo doll and give it an islander projection poll, it'd be easier.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 13, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

"why!"

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 13, 2011 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy Birthday!

“If the isles win, please send your birthday gifts to 555 North Washington St, Massapequa, NY 11758. If they don’t win, I apologize because that means I have not yet mastered my voodoo powers. Maybe I should just make a Stamkos voodoo doll and start an isles projection fanpost for it, it would be easier.”

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 13, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be easier..

to make an MSL voodoo doll… a lot less clay.

Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!

by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

oh man...

i wonder if dipietro would get a concussion if you flinged a rubber band at his head.

"son of a bitch i'm sick of these dolphins"

- Steve Zissou

by gukid17 on Oct 13, 2011 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Are you implying that someone else would somehow NOT be at risk of a cuncussion form a full force puck hiting them in the head?

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

the ironic thing about it is that it was likely

the mask, that old style, that takes more of a brunt of the force, that led to this, the newer angled ones may have fared better, but he can’t wear those now with the plates in his face

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by bob l on Oct 13, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

In an interview (forget where) Rick said he likes this one and its comfortable but its not that he CANT wear the other style. He said not too long ago that he has a normal style mask on order for this season.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

really

i read this is further from the cheek bone and thus safer… GOD ! can i trust ANYTHING i read on this fn team!??!

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by bob l on Oct 13, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the CO style mask puts less pressure on his cheekbones/orbital bones so it is more comfortable for him.
But people saying that he cannot wear a more regular mask again are obviously mistaken- otherwise, why would he have ordered one for the upcoming season? He will probably try out both at some point and see how he feels.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you imlpying that people shouldn't wonder how he gets hurt all the time?

Listen, I like the guy just fine, but you’re the only one here with a teenage crush on him.

The rest of us entered reality a long time ago. We know he gets hurt all the time, and sometimes it’s hard to believe. You don’t have to be a hater to know the guy gets hurt all the time. He hasn’t even played this year, and he’s hurt already.

it’s ridiculous.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 13, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do not appreciate that comment at all.

I think you need to throw your gender comments out the fucking window. I am not joining this conversation because I “have a crush” on him, thanks. I know just as much about this sport as you do and you need to keep that in mind instead of going all BS sexist on me when you cant think of anyhting better to say.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree with you, that sort of commentary doesn’t help and really should be avoided.

But I will also say I thought your initial reply to gukid was overly defensive. I think all he was implying is that DP is easily injured. It’s something a lot of us perceive as true and treat with gallows humor (and to be honest is also really hard to argue against at this point).

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

People get defensive when they are discussing things on-topic. We all do. Its no reason to jump to the conclusion that I feel the way I do just because I am a woman and that must mean that I have a crush on the guy. Its unreal how often this happens all over the place… every time a woman talks about Rick, at some point this argument is thrown back at us. Its so tiring.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why should that commentary be avoided?

Maybe if I said that to every women here, or even 1 other woman. She has talked about how cute he is on numerous occasions. You can’t do that and then when somebody else mentions it say:

Hey, you’re just saying that because I’m a woman!! it doesn’t work that way. the point is she has a crush on the dude, and sticks up for him endlessly because of that fact. Or at least that’s part of it.

I go to hockey games all the time and talk to women, and on here too. You’re the first one i ever disagreed with who said i was disagreeing with her because I’m sexist. ridiculous.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 13, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

And Jesus, the topic of DP is like a damn short fuse in any discussion.

If this was Martinek, it’s “yeah, he’s splody bones, poor guy.” But with DP there is so much baggage and context from all overlapping “sides” of the topic.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because its wrong, sexist, and dumb... thats why

And the argument of “well Im not being rude and sexist to EVERY woman so its OK” doesnt hold water as far as Im concerned.
I told you I dont like it. I asked you to stop it. I would rather talk about hockey and the players, not what you daydream up must be my “crushes”. I hope that you respect that.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want to make one thing crystal clear:

I go to hockey games all the time and talk to women, and on here too. You’re the first one i ever disagreed with who said i was disagreeing with her because I’m sexist. ridiculous.

I did NOT say that you are sexist… I pointed out how that line was sexist- and Im sorry, but it is.
Its not the same thing as you making jokes with Dom about Frans because you were NOT joking. I hope once things settle down you see that I didnt do what you think I did… and perhaps you will see why what you said upset me.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy shit, you're ridiculous

I can tell you’d rather talk about hockey, that’s why you won’t shut up about this.

Any chance to bring attention to yourself. You can keep on talking now, because I’m done listening. Hopefully you’ll learn to get over yourself. But I doubt it.

Go talk about how the players look some more, then cry one somebody calls you on sticking up for a guy for something that everybody knows. he’s injury prone. Even a homer like me can see that.

I can see all the women of the board agreeing with you too. They’re probably rolling their eyes at your latest attention seeking stunt.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 13, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHY SO MUCH HOSTILITY!!!!!

It’s this simple, be careful with your words and this never happens again.

Yes, she is being sensitive and defensive about a sensitive topic, but this all started with you adding the unnecessary and suggestive(somewhat sexist) :
“but you’re the only one here with a teenage crush on him.”

An then continued the belittling with:
“The rest of us entered reality a long time ago”
“it’s ridiculous.”

And even the unnecessary lip service:
“You don’t have to be a hater to know the guy gets hurt all the time. "

It’s this simple, watch what you say, watch how you say it, and this will never happen again. It’s that simple. Just don’t act like you didn’t start this and then give random outside facts to try and justify yourself. Admit fault here because your not helping yourself by carrying this out.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 13, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks Ozzy.

This guy doesnt have to like me, Id just rather him say nothing about me at all here on the hockey boards if he dislikes me.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 14, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOOK

You said something insulting me, I told you I felt insulted by it, and that should have been good enough. This could have been dropped. But instead, you are going on and on- and saying more mean personal or insulting things about me every time you respond. But I am not going there. I dont even know you, as far as I knew you were just a humorous Isles fan. I had absolutely no idea you had so many problems with me. I have not been insuting you, and I am certainly not going to start now.

So this is dropped. You feel justified in saying these things to me and insulting me, I dont like it and told you I was hurt by it, you are angry and lashing out even more because of that. Fine, now its done. Please quit telling me what you dont like about me, I am not interested.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 14, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

the Tap

They’re not gonna release the albumgame day program… because they have decided that the cover is sexist.

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by bob l on Oct 13, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

What's wrong with being sexy?

"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science

by PGI on Oct 13, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Women call me sexy all the time.

I don’t know why they always yell it at me though…

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by Fabtraption on Oct 13, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec to the nth degree.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

It has nothing to with you being a woman

How many times have you talked about his looks? You like teh guy for reason other than his goaltending and I have no problem with that. But it’s true.

The fact remains you can’t believe anybody would wonder why he gets hurt all the time. and that’s pretty funny. And remember, I am the one usually defending him too. I just find it funny you try to stick up for him when he gets hurt. he gets hurt. A Lot. A Lot more tham most if mot every other NHL player. Those are facts.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 13, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It has nothing to with you being a woman

So you tell men they have crushes on the players they talk about? I doubt it.

How many times have you talked about his looks?

Not very often. I think people talk about me talking about players looks a lot more than I actually do it. When its people Im friendly with joking around thats one thing. but when someone is telling me that I “have not entered reality” because of this huge crush, that is not joking around- thats just stupid shit.

The fact remains you can’t believe anybody would wonder why he gets hurt all the time. and that’s pretty funny.

No, that fact does NOT remain- because I am not going around saying that. I find it unbelievably stupid that he is BLAMED for getting hurt as if he is making choices that are leading to it when he is not. Goalies are supposed to get pucks fired at them, they can and do get hurt by them, holy shit that is nothing to blame a goalie for occurring.

I just find it funny you try to stick up for him when he gets hurt. he gets hurt. A Lot. A Lot more tham most if mot every other NHL player. Those are facts.

Wrong. I “stick up” for people not leaping headfirst into hysteria. That just happens to happen a lot when talking about Rick. THAT is what is the fact here.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Not very often"

That means yes, I have, sometimes.

And yes, i’ve accused Dom of having a crush on Fransy and myself of having a crush on Travis Hamonic. And I’ve been in love with Adrian peterson for 5 years.

You freak out when somebody says the slightest thing to you. That’s not my problem. you’re insane. Look how many words you typed over nothing. I’ve always been cool as shit to you, I say one thing that meant nothing and you lose your mind over it. it’s hysterical.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 13, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where did I ever say that I hide the fact that I am a hererosexual female? Holy shit.
All I have pointed out is that my opinions are not based on me wanting to bang players and I dont like when someone implies that they are. You really think that response (or any of the responses here) are me “losing my mind” and being “hysterical”? Wow. Thats really- interesting. I would say you have a kinda fucked up definitition of someone losing their mind and being hysterical, personally. Just my opinion.

Look- I told you I dont appreciate the comment and asked you to stop. If thats too hysterical for you, I dont know what to tell ya.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve always been cool as shit to you, I say one thing that meant nothing and you lose your mind over it. it’s hysterical.

Yup, you have. You say something that I dont appreciate and I figure BECAUSE you have always been cool, that I can tell you how I feel. Instead. it upset you.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one is dismissing that it is less likely to be serious because it is The Rick

It is just the tragi-comedy that it happens to him, of all people.

I really wish it were just a MSM-created narrative that he is injured all the time, but it simply isn’t. Compare his history to say, Jose Reyes on the Mets, where the injury narrative is much more of a flight of fancy.

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by IslesFanInNJ on Oct 13, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

Seems like most people bring gallows humor to the tragi-comedy of it all, but some are really harsh about it, and some are really sensitive and fatigued of the whole harsh set, and round and round we go.

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by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Let's just remember this.

HE TOOK A PUCK TO THE FUCKING FACE.

That could hurt anybody, regardless of their past injury history.

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by Fabtraption on Oct 13, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

To be fair

As a one-time goalie, I can attest to the fact that it can be very easy to have your bell rung pretty good while taking a puck to the head (and I wasn’t facing shots from Rolston).

I think the frustration with RDP is that it’s a constant flow of one injury or another (as per one commenters clever monicker “DP’sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee” – which perhaps should be amended to include “noggin”.

I think most posters here want him to do well and stay healthy, and the more negative comments are simply a venting of our collective frustration that this guy, who had so much potential, and on whom we all were once hanging the franchise on, seems to have cosmic forces aligned against him or something. At the same time, some guys are just more prone to inury (e.g. Tim Connolly, Marion Gaborik, etc.), which unfortunately seems to be the case with this guy.

As a Isles fan, I for one am getting a bit tired from this constant side show. How many years now, and we’re all still having this same exact conversation (amplified by the fact that he’s signed for another decade)?

I wish he would just either stay healthy and make a go, or stand aside already. But unfortunately that’s not the way this saga is playing out.

by SchneiderDiricov on Oct 13, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find peoples constant bitching about unavoidable injuries more annoying than the injuries themselves.
I could see if the guy was getting hurt doing reckless things and looking for trouble, but he isnt. The Isles are not DEPENDING on him being in every night, so what are they all so hysterical over? IMO people need to give it a rest.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could see if the guy was getting hurt doing reckless things and looking for trouble, but he isnt.

Actually his initial face/head injury was doing something reckless when he was SPECIFICALLY looking for trouble in the fight with Johnson. Now this injury could possibly be a result of having to wear the different mask he had to put on because of that incident.

Tavares is Tavares.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

*IF* you believe he was the one "looking" for that fight.

I dont- Johnson was the one looking for that fight, and he even said so afterwards.
I think DiPietro just stood up for himself… and if he didnt, people would have been pissed about that.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If DP had just stood there no one would have been the wiser that Johnson wanted a fight. DP absolutely went looking for a fight when he skated out to meet Johnson. It’s not standing up for yourself until someone has attacked you.

This is where it gets confusing. There is no defending him in that instance. He did an incredibly stupid thing and got seriously hurt by it. He wasn’t defending himself, or his teammates. Who knows why exactly he did it, but there are no good reasons.

Tavares is Tavares.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree with you.

Guys fight for reasons, just because we dont know them doesnt mean there arent reasons.
But WTF does that have to do with people bashing the guy for this?

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s relevant because you said he never gets hurt doing reckless things or looking for trouble. And he very much did.

Tavares is Tavares.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

you said he never gets hurt doing reckless things or looking for trouble

Where did I say THAT?

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right here.

I could see if the guy was getting hurt doing reckless things and looking for trouble, but he isnt.

Am I in the Twilight Zone?

Tavares is Tavares.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see

I Said that he isnt being reckless and looking for trouble, not that he NEVER caused any trouble for himself. You add a word like “never” in you change the entire meaning.

Look- if anyone thinks that a goalie is at fault for getting hit with a puck while in a net, that genuinely seems crazy to me.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't Johnson the one who left his crease first?

Guy traveled to the Isles’ blue line before DP even dropped his gloves. What is he to do, back down at that point?

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by Fabtraption on Oct 13, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea

that’s exactly what he should have done.

In fact it wouldn’t even have been backing down. He was standing behind the goal line in our own end when Johnson skated down. He easily could have ignored him.

And note, no one else on the ice was fighting at the time. There was a scrum, but they were the only ones fighting. It was unnecessary, stupid and embarrassing.

Tavares is Tavares.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

He probably shouldn't have

Tried the nonsense of jumping out at Cooke either late in the game. That was dangerous and stupid also.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 13, 2011 3:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It is never a bad idea to jump Cooke

That’s like, in the laws ’n stuff.

(But seriously, I can’t separate Cooke’s running DP earlier in the season from any chance to get him back.)

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by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know I agree and disagree at the same time

If you’re DP and injury prone, you shouldn’t do it…but Cooke is irresistible. I wasn’t a fan of him pulling the same stunt with the Flyers/Briere/Carcillo.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 13, 2011 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he should have stayed in the net for the flyer thing, but I don't blame him for Cooke.

Cooke ran him 2 or 3 times that game, he had it coming. And it’s Cooke, anyone would take a swing at him if given the chance.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 13, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's more a matter of expectations

In the context of what was expected of this guy when we shipped out Luongo and co. and passed on a couple of very good players to draft him, it’s disappointing.

As fans, our time, energy, and money is what supports this team and the league. Therefore we are allowed to be disappointed when someone who we expect to be and who’s sold to us the savior of the franchise. That’s part of the ups and downs of being a sports fan. You get emotionally invested, and when the team and its players do well, you’re happy, and unhappy when they do not.

From my point of view, it’s not that I think it’s his fault or that the injuries were avoidable, nor do I resent him for any of it.

But I do respectfully maintain my right to be disappointed with the situation.

by SchneiderDiricov on Oct 13, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Screw Luongo.

You actually think its worth it to still sit around mad about what was done a dozen years ago by Mike Millbury?
I cannot think of a bigger waste of time and energy.

And seriously, screw him. If I could filter one word on all Isles-related sites, it would be “Luongo”.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you want to shield that discussion...

change setting to: Filter=(“Luongo”, “Heatley”, “Gaborik”)

Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!

by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL!!!!!

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please do not infer

Nowhere did I say that we should have gone with Luongo, or Gaborik, or Heatley, or Olli. Nor did I complain about (or even mention) Mad Mike in my comment.

What I was referring to was the fact that the organization felt so strong about this guy’s potential to be a franchise face, that they passed on what were considered to be some very impressive assets at the time in order to make him that face.

Within the context of what we all expected of him, I stand by my statement.

Personally, I can’t undertand how anyone can claim that they are not disappointed with how things have worked out with RDP during his Islander tenure – at least through this point in time.

by SchneiderDiricov on Oct 13, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is absolutely disappointing

Youd have to be denying reality NOT to be disappointed. but disappointment is one thing, blame is another.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, not Luongo brought up again!

Ra ra ra “overrated” ra ra ra “playoff choke artist” ra ra ra “wouldn’t want him during the playoffs”. lol.

PS-If Quinn or Mikb are reading, this is a joke, let’s not open the cookie jar again, I really can’t take a lot more study time out to debate this. lol

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 13, 2011 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

well it was hilarious

watching he-who-shall-not-be-named rip on luongo for going out of the crease to play the puck the other night on versus

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by bob l on Oct 13, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did he really?

I try not to add to the hate, but HWSNBN always gives me more material…

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by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 13, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

screw Milbury...Luongo is no more to blame for stupid moves than DP

Who in their right mind starts all over again by drafted a goalie first overall, when you just picked one 4th overall a few years earlier…while goalies are hard to figure out and can be frustrating, Lou has a gold medal, made it to cup finals…canucks don’t win 3 without him, and while ppl blamed him for not winning cup, Van’s PK was very good with Lou, yet the twins disappeared and took no fan backlash…look, any idiot should have known your not going to get a star forward prospect for a goalie with no proven NHL record, no matter how high rated..Milbury essentially threw away a highend pick, a shot at a great forward in two drafts by restarting and drafting DP over Heatley and Gaborik who were rated higher. And of course, the best he could get for an unproven top goalie prospect was Parrish and a project named Kvasha. It was too damned late to be switching horses at the time Milbury did. I for one think it is good to remember this nonsense when we see kids like Chara raise the cup…could go on and on but we all know the list…there in lies the lesson, this time round be patient, choose the trades you make carefully, and if kids are constantly flying out of the Island, you’ve got a bad GM and the rebuild will never end.

by CanadianIsleslifer on Oct 13, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

screw Milbury…Luongo is no more to blame for stupid moves than DP

That is a valid point… but once you paint a C on your chin and pretend to be captain, I cannot defend you. I cant help it, its just how I feel.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 14, 2011 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

During my recent open hockey games, I took a few pucks to the face. The high pitched siren goes off in your head right away. I’m not surprised Rickety might have gotten hurt from a puck to the face. Sucks for him because I’m sure Rolston shoots harder than anyone at open hockey games.

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Oct 13, 2011 1:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

so simple, yet it has escaped me on a regular basis...

Rickety… I am adopting this to replace DP(which offends TMC’s sensitive side), Rick(which is non-specific), Ricky (too Schroeder-esque) or Dipietro (no comedic value… unless you do the linguistic derivation, FROM PETER… which is wher you borrow to give to Paul)

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

DP(which offends TMC’s sensitive side),

DiPi on the other hand seems perfectly acceptable.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Glad to help. I like Rickety as a goalie and wish he would return to form, but its too funny to pass up.

Hunter said he was just finishing his check.

by Turgeon1992 on Oct 13, 2011 1:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Strome

sent down and the Devils have their pik playing on the first D pairing. Snow better get lessons this off season in coin flipping.

by altosax on Oct 13, 2011 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

No

He’s implying that Garth sucks at the lottery. He does! FIREGARTHSNOW!

In all seriousness, that damn lottery might haunt us for some time. I really, really liked Larsson. Hopefully Strome will make us forget all about it someday.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was bummed about losing larsson too

but you gotta move on, and i did after watching strome do 1 single dangle

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by bob l on Oct 13, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have

and I think Strome is going to be a monster.

But there is that nagging voice pointing out that we probably wouldn’t be watching either Mottau or Staios right now if the balls had bounced differently…

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh, true, but

1 of those two sits for Milan soon anyway… and then the entire D looks better… our D is actually deeper then the dev’s this year… kinda weird, but he would have been a 3-4-5 d man for us i think

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by bob l on Oct 13, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea

although I imagine we would have done something similar to the Devils and put him on the first pair with Streit, so that we could have utilized his skills, while also shielding him behind The Schwingerkönig. Instead we have Staios there who we are just shielding since he has no skills to speak of.

But then you have two really nice pairings and Jurcina, Mottau and Eaton fighting for the last two spots with rookies breathing down their necks.

C’est la vie.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but WHAT

a 3, 4, 5…..

STOP effin' messin' with my FnGO!!

by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Oct 13, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Analogy Fail
Snow better get lessons this off season in coin flipping.

Gary Bettman better get lessons this off season in … oh never mind.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Larsson, the one that got away........

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 13, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Attendance Over/Under

I am setting the line at 10,500

Playoffs?!?!?! You're talking about Playoffs?!?!

by The Fitz on Oct 13, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

It will be over that.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 13, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's gotta be over...

or this team is gonna die on the vine. Maybe not tonight, but in general they have to avg around 14K/gm to show a pulse. Jeez, tampa averaged more than we could hold last year… and it’s in TAMPA! Another eyar of 11K is not going to bode well for stopping the moving vans from coming in the middle of the night (ala Baltimore to Indy).
I thought I read that the Monday game was sold out… then I checked… weak! While I was in NY I didn’t see, hear or feel anything Islanders. If they go 15 games averaging under 13K they need to get some heads rolling…. especially in the marketing department.

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I give them a pass

for the Monday day game because I don’t think most people still get it off.

But a Thursday night against one of the better teams in the league? Yea, under 13.5 would be disappointing.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was at the monday game last year...

…and the attendance was really disappointing. Non-sellout vs the rangers, and the crowd was probably 45% ranger fans. My section was about 85% ranger fans. Nothing like a hostile crowd in your own building.

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha
hostile crowd in your own building

That’s always been the way for Rangers games though. Not 45%, but even in the heyday I bet most Isles/Rags came in at ~30% Ranger fans. Those games were always heated in the stands. Or they were in the 300s anyway.

I always assumed there were actually a fair amount of Ranger fans that had Isles’ season tickets because they didn’t want to make the trip into NYC.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's so pathetic recently...

that even Montreal fans outnumber Islander fans when the weather is bad. I can see the air coming out of the fans early last year, but they seemed to fix it later in the season…WHEN THEY WERE DEAD!
Why… because they couldn’t make the playoffs, but cappy had them playing good hockey, and the violence made it more attractive.
Difference… remove Konopka, Haley AND Gillies… add Rolston, Reasoner and Pandolfo… BORING!
2 goals in 2 games… BORING!
Streit is back… but nothing NEW on defense… BORING!

They may not fix the offense, and replacing Rolston or Pandolfo with Gillies or Haley isn’t going to do that… but if the only guy standing up for JT is Parentau, we’ve taking two steps forward and one backwards… and the fans will show their displeasure by coming out disguised as empty seats. That’s why I really think the team needs Haley much more than it does Pandolfo.

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll wait to see how we end the month. Because the thing about winning is it isn’t boring, no matter how it gets done.

I’ve like Pandolfo so far, but I wouldn’t mind seeing Haley get another shot. He does have that ability to ignite a flat team with a hit or fight. And I think he showed last year he’s also got enough hockey player in him to not hurt us.

But as far as the ticket sales go, I think last year did indeed have a whole lot to do with the $20 tickets as much as the team being more fun to watch. They were also more fun to watch on TV.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

It’s just game two… most everything I have been saying needs to be projected over the whole year… but I do think that they need to start ringing the fire alarm if they are winning and the attendance still sucks after 15 home games.
Besides being old and beat up, the NVMC is one of the smaller venues in the NHL. If they can’t get >85% attendance on a regular basis it really might be time to fold up the tent.
The barn probably still has the best sight lines in the business, but what good does that do if you’re sitting in a row all alone.
They need to start putting better packages together.
Michael Grabner package… 1 GM v FL, 1 GM v VAN and a GC for Vincents… $40
John Tavares PKG…. 2 Toronto games and a month’s subscription to the globe and mail… $91
Frans Nielsen PKG… any game… LHH Tee Shirt (signed by Frans and Dominik)… $51
Comeau Pkg… any RANGER GAME…. and a COZO Coozy… $57
Josh Bailey Pkg…. any game, upper tier… plus a GC for one drink at the bar..(no shots)… $12
Rick Dipiertro pkg… any game, one free visit to Mercy Hospital Emergency Room… $39

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Rick Dipiertro pkg… any game, one free visit to Mercy Hospital Emergency Room… $39

Amazing. Two broken legs there myself.

I’m actually kind of surprised they didn’t just drop ticket prices coming into the year after the success of the $20 thing. Don’t people in the seats, spending money in the building generate more revenue than empty ones you never sell the tickets for?

Tavares is Tavares.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe they did drop ticket prices.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Going by what I paid...

for 200 level seats on StubHub, the brokerage and season ticket prices are a lot lower than face.
I suppose the brokerages are buying up season tickets to bolster numbers and get “other event” availability. But they probably need to start other discounts… like 1/2 price for all police, fire and bartenders… THE PEOPLE WHO SAVE OUR LIVES!

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

the nabakov package

say that you want to buy it, then don’t actually buy it until the next season starts – 39$

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by bob l on Oct 13, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

or...

You buy it, and when you go to pick up your tickets at will call they aren’t there.

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the leader at the turn...

AWESOME!

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

The P.A. Parenteau package

Two tickets to an Islanders game of your choice, and then afterwards you meet P.A. in the locker room where he [EXPLETIVE DELETED] to your [EXPLETIVE DELETED] all while your family watches.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Oct 13, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Hoppy involved?

Please tell me Hoppy isn’t involved.

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hoppy is a part of the Zenon Konopka package

For half the game, you watch from the penalty box.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Oct 13, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

The Mark Eaton package

Two tickets to an Islanders-Devils game.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Oct 13, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mark Eaton pkg II

You get an aisle seat where you can watch everybody go by.

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

No to be confused with..

the Mike Mottau package where your designated area is by the leftmost urinal in the Men’s Room. Guys are constanlty going by, but unlike the Eaton pkg you get pissed on at least three times a game.

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Mark Eaton package is a very subtle joke

I’m wondering if anybody gets it…

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Oct 13, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Mark Eaton Package

You show up at the Coliseum with your ticket only to have the ticket taker, ushers and the concession people surprised to see you, and mildly confused as to exactly who you are. During the game, select Islanders players and coaches will randomly look in your direction with an, “I think I know that guy…” look on their faces.

by Les Beaver on Oct 13, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Okposo Designated Driver Package

Everybody talks about what a great example you’re setting, until your car hits a post

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Oct 13, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah damn I think you beat me

Hoping that Haley comes around more than once every 75 years.

by ilopan on Oct 13, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess i was typing it when you were posting

or I wouldve left KO all to you

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by Chris McNally on Oct 13, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what they say

when you order the Scott Scissons package

"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science

by PGI on Oct 13, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm

you know, I was looking for a package that included 2 regular season games with 1 playoff game. I wanted to bring a date to each, but got turned down each game, going scoreless.

by Isles2011 on Oct 13, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haley pkg

4 tickets for $59 or $18 per, get to punch a life size and life like avery, if you bloody the eye you get to meet the players

loving the tears of fallen leaf fans...JT IS OURS

by DarthDoyle on Oct 13, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

They can run that one in BPT

Haley pkg… any CT game… one Sean Avery w/Bullseye poster, the newest issue of stacked and packed and a pair of brass knuckles…$59

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Gillies Package

You sit at the far end of the benches all game except you get to move down to the center for 2 minutes per game.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

THE COZO

NICE!!!

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy cow guys, keep it up

We’ll have to make this its own separate post.

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by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Jurcina package

If you can get to the game uninjured, the Islanders are guaranteed to win. $27

by Dorfer on Oct 13, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

The RDP Health alert package!

He’s fallen and can’t get up! Comes with free “one button press” EMS service for you phone.

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Oct 13, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mottau Package

Only $10 but you have to walk very, very slowly and by the time you get to your seats, the first period is halfway over Isles are already losing 2-0.

Tavares is Tavares.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Milan Jurcina PKG

2 tickets to any game, way up high… the tickets are printed on legal paper, and their slightly torn.

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Groin injuries are free!

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Oct 13, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jay Pandolfo PKG

Isles open a Stand By line…

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

David Ullstrom Pkg

You pay full price for a good seat, but you have to watch the game from the parking lot.

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nino Pkg

9 games… then you are banned from the areener.

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt Martin Pkg

Seat right on the glass so you can hit it all game long.

Tavares is Tavares.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kirill Kabanov pkg

You get a season ticket, but they don’t tell you to what team it’s for.

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The Ryan Strome Package

You get one VIP pass for a week to access the facilities before the game, and then one ticket to watch the game from the TV at a stool in Doolans bar

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by Chris McNally on Oct 13, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Calvin deHaan pkg

The box office closes just as you get there.

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im with you on this.

the thing about winning is it isn’t boring, no matter how it gets done.

So absolutely positively true.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love to agree, but...

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK, maybe thats just teh exception that proves the rule. Or something like that lol.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

njd

boring boring boring — stevens crushed some guy! exciting – boring boring boring – empty net goal, 2-0 victory woohoo!

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by bob l on Oct 13, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm too bored to perceive this image

Watching Devils hockey is like walking up from a nap on sunday afternoon with intense post nap malaise and there is nothing to do and nothing on TV except old television programs on channel 9 and there is no more soda in the house.

by Isles2011 on Oct 13, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well said

Even off just two games, you can see that Snow better get on the phone with Wqang’s checkbook open

by altosax on Oct 13, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way over

More showed up for a Monday day game.

No Sleep 'til....Belmont?

by Anarcurt on Oct 13, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Under, I'd expect 8-9k.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 13, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cappy's Laissez-faire policy...

beats Gordon’s shake the bottle approach.
But I don’t think I’d mind seeing Kyle on the RW at some point… just not ready to FNGraNino just yet… but I wonder what GrabFNCOZO would look like.

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Have we seen this season's first COZO?

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by Russel Ginart on Oct 13, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Only saw the first game...

…and no cozo’s. I think that was because he played the RW. I feel as though the cauzo is that when he’s on the LW as he comes downt he wing if somebody is defending against his inside move (to get off a shot) he’s stuck. He either doesn’t trust his ability to pass off the backhand, or Bailey and whoever is moving with him is not in a position to take a pass. I would think that a trailer would be better, as the backhand would be stronger, and the D most likely would be positioned in front of him.

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that’s exactly it. Theoretically, playing on the right side should enable him to get more shots off. When coming down the right side, he’d obviously not have to move inside and could just get the puck on net most of the times. And the shot is his biggest asset. But it hasn’t happened thus far, though. A few times, when he was skating with the puck through the neutral zone, he’d just cut to his off-wing side as ever… And a couple more times he just didn’t have the trust, it seemed, to protect the puck and then get a shot off.

by BenHasna on Oct 13, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

A few times, when he was skating with the puck through the neutral zone, he’d just cut to his off-wing side as ever…

Each time that happened I could only chuckle. Oh, Comeau, what to do?

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by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know there's a song in there...
Oh, Comeau, what to do

But I can’t find a melody to go with it… i need my guitar…. DAMN WORK!

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aonther entry...

in the LHH SONGBOOK.

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im waiting for the TIME LIFE LHH 8 CD Collection

I keep watching at 3 am every morning, but alas no infomercial

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by Chris McNally on Oct 13, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

All our promotional budget...

is tied up in these things…

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

if im watching a shake weight informercial at 3 am

i prefer the Skin-emax version

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by Chris McNally on Oct 13, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dom, you are killing me! AWESOME!

You are in mid-season form!!!!

We are all Islanders, even if we’re from Jersey!

by Russel Ginart on Oct 13, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I used to do one COZO but one COZO wouldn’t do it so the COZOs got more and mo-oh

This is so awesome. I’ll be singing that all year long.

Tavares is Tavares.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

heh, exactly. And coming over from the right side would just take way too much time for any move back to the inside being there at all. As a consequence, he hasn’t got any shots off from either side.

by BenHasna on Oct 13, 2011 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

IMO, Preseason is the problem here.

There wasn’t one game in which the full ‘A’ squad played in. How can we expect to hit the ground running and have everyone clicking? But then again, do you put all your ‘A’ players out there when you got fring players looking to make a name for themselves through fighting and/or dangerous hits?

I always thought fighting was ridiculous in preseason and I think it should be banned. There is already so much potential for a player to get hurt. Preseason should be about getting a player’s skills prepped in game situations, not looking over your shoulder for headhunters.

by Bepfront on Oct 13, 2011 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Montoya starts tonight( from Twit-ter)

@NYIslanders
NYIslanders
Capuano says that Montoya will start tonight. Nabokov will back up. #isles

"Scorching the back of my neck with a revolving red light!"

by FGS on Oct 13, 2011 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Apparently

Kirill Kabanov will sign with SEL champions Färjestad BK within a few days.

News article 1

News article 2

Best organization in the SEL if you ask me. They are having some serious problem with goalscoring at the moment and are currently in the bottom of the table (only played 10 games though). Coach is well known for giving young players ice-time.

by DavidSweden on Oct 13, 2011 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Meanwhile, the other Kirill.

12 Games played. 6 Goals, 3 Assists. Averaging Ice time about 15 min. p/game. Shooting percentage – 24%. Unreal, has to come down.

by O.Bender on Oct 13, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or maybe we just have

The second coming of Gretzky in Russian form….IT CAN HAPPEN!

"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992

by Zhora on Oct 13, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet.

Good to hear.

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by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drinking age

in Sweden is 18 so I guess he will be a frequent visitor at the “Happy Duck”http://www.gladaankan.nu/ in Karlstad.

Here’s Färjestad BKs Roster

Look at some of the names in their team staff section and you will notice some famous names..

by DavidSweden on Oct 13, 2011 12:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Couple of recent first rounders on the blueline I see.

Looks like very few younger players up front, so hopefully he can learn something from these guys.

Tavares is Tavares.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two things I noticed...

Hakan Loob was one of my all-time favorite hockey names… and Mike Iggulden is leading the league in scoring.
What happens with a guy like that? He has a few productive AHL years, and it looks as though he had terrible +/- years… but under THE CAP he had 66P in 72GP with a +3 rating. He also got a cup of coffee with the big club under the stiff… with the worst roster in Islander history and had 6P in 11GP… I really thought he was coming back in 2009. Good size, don’t rememebr him being physical… but they really could have used a scoring RH C… they still can. I guess we’ll have to wait for Strome… unless Colliton or Haley get to the point where they could lead the SEL in points.

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Jesse Joensuu and Rob Schremp performing very well with their clubs!

by DavidSweden on Oct 13, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Iggy

Not a MM bro-in-law, but a fellow Cornellian. He did look good in those 11 games.

by Dorfer on Oct 13, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's still time...

If his wife doesn’t have any more sisters, maybe he have his parents adopt a few Swedish girls for the cause.

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by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the latter

Then sign me up to be a MM bro-in-law…in fact, I’ll take 2.

by Dorfer on Oct 13, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two?

You been watching sister wives or something?

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha

I have no idea what that is, but I’m guessing it’s on TLC.

by Dorfer on Oct 13, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guessed correctly!

I have only watched the commercial, but its about this dude who collects wives like we collect hockey jerseys. The chick think of one another as sister-wives and he takes turns grooving each of them up and getting them to pop out kids.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's like Big Love

but much, much worse.

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by Fabtraption on Oct 13, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, The Learning Channel

We're all so much more learned thanks to you

by Dorfer on Oct 13, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I thought Iggy looked legit in his NHL appearances too

Legit enough to give another look-see anyway.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thing was

We were loaded that next year. Competition was too tough.

Tavares is Tavares.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ha!

Nice, made me spit my coffee.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

2009-10 Islander Centers/RWs

C – Tavares, Weight, Bailey, Nielsen, Park… Schremp was picked up late off waivers.
RW – Okposo, Comeau, Hunter, Jackman… yep… no way you could fit a few NHL games in there.
Sim played a little RW, I think… and so did Park… they even used Weight on RW.
But that lineup may have solved the RW issue long term with the 5th overall draft pick.

Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!

by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

reply fail...

this was intended for Afro’s 1:44 comment.

Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!

by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can feel the OCD turning over within you

Reaching, searching, yearning for an undo or an edit button. Damn the SBN gremlins. Damn them to hell.

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by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!!!

Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!

by JPinVA on Oct 13, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is hunter playing on the kings 3rd line?

I know he played 1gm at an ample amount of ice time, not sure if that was the norm though.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 13, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get it

Can’t they just do this: Move Nashville to the SE and move Winnipeg to the Central?

by turkey116 on Oct 13, 2011 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Nashville *is not* in the eastern time zone.

Why on earth would they choose a central time zone team to move away from the other central time zone teams instead of moving one of the two eastern time zone teams (Detroit and Columbus) to play with the other teams in the eastern time zone?

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because when you're talking about putting a team in the SE division

Nashville to Tampa 705
to Miami 911
to Raleigh 540
to DC 666

Columbus to Tampa 1024
to Miami 1258
to Raleigh 481
to DC 428

For the hour time difference (not a big deal) and the few miles you save to DC, Nashville geographically makes a heck of a lot more sense in the SE division than Columbus. And if you want to talk about putting Columbus in a different division, that’s even a bigger mess bc who do you put in the SE?

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by Chris McNally on Oct 13, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because

not everyone thinks about it in terms of time zones. Some people think about it in terms of travel time for division games, and Nashville would be logical choice to move to the SE under that system.

Tavares is Tavares.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

These guys travel in absolute luxury. They are not going through security and squished into seats like the masses.
The biggest problem with travel is what time you leave and what time you get there- and when there is a time zone change, it messes with them all. It messes with the fans even more. Thats why Detroit is insisting that they move to play other teams in the eastern time zone. and it if wasnt them (which it will be) then it would be Columbus. It would not be Nashville.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t disagree, just answering the why on earth part.

I don’t think the time zone matters much. These guys are on a bizarre schedule. But it definitely is a fan issue. The older I get, the less likely I am to watch games I know I won’t see the end of, which basically means anything starting after 8pm :).

Tavares is Tavares.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

I am a night person and can usually enjoy even the 930 games but when the Isles are on a west coast trip, it is crazy having games start at 1030 at night. Although I enjoy staying up late, my brain just isnt as good at following the game that late if I worked that day. I cannot imagine how much it must suck for Detroit and Columbus that so many of their games start that late.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 14, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup

I am a night person and can usually enjoy even the 930 games but when the Isles are on a west coast trip, it is crazy having games start at 1030 at night. Although I enjoy staying up late, my brain just isnt as good at following the game that late if I worked that day. I cannot imagine how much it must suck for Detroit and Columbus that so many of their games start that late.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 14, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's true

But Nashville itself is lobbying for an Eastward move, so they apparently value the travel/regional/lesser competition benefit over time zones.

Personally, I’d go time zones and lopsided conferences. But I also don’t get why Detroit is “owed” for not moving to the East in the late ‘90s, when they’d already been in the de facto West (Campbell Conference) for 20 years at that point.

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by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

No disrespect to the Red Wings but...

them claiming a “competitive disadvantage” while playing in the Western Conference is an insult to anyone that’s watched NHL hockey in the last 20 years. I’d put the Islanders in the Pacific Division if they could be disadvantaged to four Stanley Cups.

At least claim you need to save on jet fuel or something.

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by PGI on Oct 13, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I also don’t get why Detroit is "owed" for not moving to the East in the late ‘90s, when they’d already been in the de facto West (Campbell Conference) for 20 years at that point.

I guess more than anything else they just “feel” like an eastern team being shoved west. The time zone thing is definitely a factor in it. To tell you the truth in mnay ways I think that Columbus has just as much of a call to this as they do, if not more. And I think Columbus needs it even more.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 14, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why? Because they do. They affect fan participation and interest, TV ratings, and just enjoyment.

They also affect the players. And because of all the biological and psychological effects of time zones, Its not going to be Nashville over Columbus and Detroit.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 14, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

But

But if everything you said is true, why would Nashville be expressing strong interest in moving to the East?

I think actual travel time is a much bigger issue for the players than time zone changes. That stuff affects people on normal schedules. Professional athletes are constantly on a weird schedule. But sitting on a plane, even a nice chartered one, isn’t something anyone likes doing for long stretches of time.

Either way, we’ll find out in December it sounds like.

Tavares is Tavares.

by afrosupreme on Oct 14, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

They would be moving the other way

Things would be an hour earlier for them, not later. they would ‘gain’ an hour, not lose it.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 14, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nashville

may be able to pick up Thrasher fans and from some neighboring states that don’t have teams…maybe Va, Kentucky? Who knows.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 14, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Off topic...I read this in Grantland....Clutterbuck will test Shanahan soon...

One annoying (and potentially dangerous) consequence of Brendan Shanahan’s iron fist when it comes to suspensions for illegal hits to “vulnerable players” has been the growing number of targets who turn their backs when they sense contact is imminent in hopes of drawing a stronger penalty. (We’ll call this move “the preemptive dive.”) The Ottawa Senators’ Milan Michalek did just that on Monday as the Minnesota Wild’s Cal Clutterbuck approached, and Clutterbuck, once back on the bench, made his frustration known: “Turn your back on me again and I’ll fucking bury you! I’ll fucking bury you!” he yelled. The Ottawa rink was so quiet that his words were picked up with sterling clarity on the TV broadcast. “He seems upset,” the broadcaster noted. I’m totally using that line the next time I get ignored by a bartender.

by NHL fan on Oct 13, 2011 6:19 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd for your closing line

As long as we don’t show up at the same bar, I’m going to use it as my pick up line. The ladies will be shaking with excitement to come home with me.

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by Chris McNally on Oct 13, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scene: A crowded bar. Dedicate Islanders fan, Chris McNally is frantically trying to attract the attention of a hulking bartender. The bartender moves past him to a group of women farther down the bar.

Chris: "Turn your back on me again and I’ll fucking bury you! I’ll fucking bury you!"

He turns to his left and noticed as woman gaping at his threat.

Chris: You liked that, huh? What you drinking?

Woman [stammering]: Ma-ma-margarita

The bartender walks past Chris again.

Chris: I warned you

Chris leaps the bar, throws the bartender in a headlock and pushes him halfway into the ice cooler.

Chris [screaming to the bar]: Drinks on the house everybody!!!

Chris [aside to the woman]: Now was that margarita on the rocks or frozen?

Woman swoons. Camera fades out.

Tavares is Tavares.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Hahahaha

lets not forget the 70’s porn music that starts playing as the camera fades

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by Chris McNally on Oct 13, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.

The victory justified the faith in coach Al Arbour who guided them from their second season to their first Stanley Cup seven seasons later. The Islanders would not be the first expansion team to win the Stanley Cup, but they would be the only one capable of a dynasty.

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May 21, 1981: This time it was much easier. After falling to "only" 91 points in the 1979-80 season, the Islanders returned to their division title tradition, piling up 110 points -- a whole 13 points over second-place Philadelphia.

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May 16, 1982: Another year, another landslide title. The Islanders won the Patrick Division by a whopping 26 points over the second-place Rangers, and were seven points clear of their nearest competition for the President's Trophy, the still-not-quite-ripe Edmonton Oilers.

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