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Kirill Kabanov a Happy Islander, Just Needs a 2011-12 Home

Don't worry about Kirill K.

A long-ranging interview with Islanders prospect Kirill Kabanov in sports.ru (Russian) by Igor Eronko drew some angst -- because we are prone to fear the worst -- when Yahoo's Dmitry Chesnokov tweeted a very select excerpt asking rather suggestively, "Kabanov upset with the NHL?":

"Everyone [in Russia] kept saying 'NHL, NHL.' You get there and will be famous.. As a boy I had an impression [the NHL] was paradise. But when I came here I realized that the made-up image and reality are different things."

Don't be misled. Chesnokov is referencing the checkered history Kabanov has with the KHL, as demonstrated by Chesnokov's additional tweet: "there's 0 chance he'd be taken back to the KHL after the amount of dirt he poured on them over the years."

In a few interviews in those days Kabanov ripped the KHL experience (he goes into that in this interview) -- so it is in that context a Russian reporter focuses on any hint of a change of heart.

If you read the rest of the interview (well, the Google Translate version), you can see that context pretty clearly, as well as lots of happy talk from Kabanov about the Islanders (he's also talking about this on Facebook right now), with whom he signed a three-year contract this summer:

Star-divide

On being drafted by the Islanders, despite falling further in the draft than anyone expected before bad PR hit his season:

Yes, very happy. Insanely happy, I would say. Because the "Islanders" - a team where the young have a chance. We just take that chance. And no matter what round I was chosen.

On Jack Capuano:

A very good coach, very funny. He jokes often, I like it.

He said he was impressed by Frans Nielsen, Mark Streit, Kyle Okposo and John Tavares and also appreciated the help of the Islanders alumni:

With Mike Bossy is familiar - it also works on the Islanders. We had often talked. What to say? To add, developed, worked on himself. A couple of times met with Brian Trottier, with Denis Potvin and many others. I was surprised that all these legendary hockey players - very simple, though very friendly, always willing to suggest something. None of them, no neglect of nothing yuntsam have achieved, on the contrary, all support it.

There's plenty more if you can translate or decipher the Google version. On growing older, maturing, the faster thinking required in North American hockey -- and of course, his agent working on where he plays this season, since the NHL-CHL agreement keeps the Islanders from sending him to Bridgeport, but his QMJHL team already has its two import slots filled.

Stay tuned to that situation, which hopefully resolves soon. But this is still the guy who was all smiles on Long Island this summer, including that impromptu roller hockey game he showed up to.

Don't let the fact he's a symbolic figure in NHL vs. KHL and North American vs. Russian development PR wars change that.

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Honestly

The entire situation surrounding him right now is kind of pissing me off. I had the chance to meet him over the summer at the blue and white scrimmage and he was one of the nicest guys ive talked to. i think he’s more annoyed with the media at this point than isles fans hate milbury

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by DarthDoyle on Oct 12, 2011 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I feel bad for him

He’s used as a pawn by media with their own prospect and/or KHL agenda to push, and he’s a victim of the CHL-NHL treaty, among other traps.

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by Dominik on Oct 12, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Don't feel bad...

I think that as long as the Islanders hold him in high regard thats what really matters…WGAS about the KHL…Hes destined for the NHL….Hes still making allot of money compared to most and at a young age so don’t feel bad…

by KO21 on Oct 12, 2011 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im starting to feel bad for him now that I actually understand what happened...

Unless he actually did say those things about the NHL along with his decision to quit the KHL, then I wouldn’t….

by KO21 on Oct 12, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

You watch.

This is the kind of quote that people will be bringing up YEARS from now to talk shit about KK.
Everyone will forget the spin job, they will just remember the quote.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im glad someone here could read it

Your comments on it are definitely appreciated.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for that

Nice to know what it actually said.

That last quote is hilarious.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fantastic

Thanks a ton for that.

Interesting to hear the reporter came across fishing, too. I suspected that, but did not gather that from the lovely Google Translate version.

I can’t believe I chose Chinese over Russian in high school. WTF was I thinking?!

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by Dominik on Oct 13, 2011 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Is there a way

that he can practice with the Islanders or Bridgeport?

Does the CBA say he can’t go only to the AHL? (In that case, what about the ECHL?)

by martylnd on Oct 12, 2011 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

His JR team can release him to the Islanders, but the problem with that is his team thinks he is worth something and are trying to trade his rights.

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by Mark D on Oct 12, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question

is a loan to SEL any different than “releasing” him? Why do they care if it is the SEL or AHL any way if he is probably not going to be there next year (he would be overage). I wonder if loaning him can be construed as releasing him and the SEL is just a smoke screen for the Isles getting him into BPT….or if the Isles would look bad doing so.

What I find a little strange about the whole thing is the lack of an actual SEL team name.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 12, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

his JR team would also keep his rights, even if he was playing in Europe, we’d just be loaning him to Europe. It has to do with the CBA, but basically he can’t play in NA without getting the okay from his JR club.

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by Mark D on Oct 12, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should do that

since they fucked him.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 12, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the kicker is that this is a team with Islanders conenctions

Remember when we were happy he was picked up from the dispersal draft by a team with Isles ties? Yeah- with friends like this the Isles dont need enemies.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless....

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 12, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it's still early

If Garth Snow were in this situation, I’d want him to explore getting an asset from another team before going with the Greater Good for Kirill route. They sure don’t have much leverage vs. other Q teams, but they can at least shop for a draft pick.

However, my guns are loaded and ready to fire if this lingers much longer.

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by Dominik on Oct 12, 2011 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wil we see

a Czech tirade of fury?

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 12, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paging Bobby Holik

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by Dominik on Oct 12, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

I do think the one caveat, that I’m unsure of, is would playing in the AHL start his ECL? I assume it would, and if that is the case, the Islanders very well may not want him playing there…

by afrosupreme on Oct 12, 2011 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

His ECL is cheap though

And he was a 3rd rounder and is still relatively controlled. Unless he really goes off,that shouldn’t be a problem.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 12, 2011 4:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well

less about the money, more about the timeline; i.e. If they think he’s this season and another away from the NHL then you lose a couple of years of control, no?

by afrosupreme on Oct 12, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

if he’s not ready and they know that, and he has to play in the AHL, the contract is activated and you lose a year.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 12, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's some more news

this is such a weird day

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by DarthDoyle on Oct 12, 2011 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

I tweeted him about that. He obviously leaves out the part where the Q team is at the import limit.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 12, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't like this part
It is also an inventive way for the Islanders to skirt the CHL-NHL agreement and perhaps do right by a young talent who needs a bigger challenge.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 12, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont like it either.

There is no skirting going on here, the kid cannot play on his team. Jeez.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think the chl needs to take a look at its rules

i believe that if an import player gets drafted, but then returns to his junior team, he should be allowed to play even if they already have the max number of imports. that way things like this wouldnt happen

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by DarthDoyle on Oct 12, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Odd situation though

This is all due to the Manieacs folding.

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by Mark D on Oct 12, 2011 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

but the fact remains that the armada had to know that there was a chance that KK would be returning to juniors, therefore they shouldn’t have picked up the overager or at least waited until after a 9 game stint, if he got one

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by DarthDoyle on Oct 12, 2011 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

They had to know there was a lot more than just a chance, even

I mean, it was practically a certainty.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

You forget we are dealing with Patirck Roy.

Not exactly an upstanding voice of reason.

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by since70too on Oct 12, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Patrick Roy is not the owner of the Armada

He owns the Quebec Remparts. Many think that Patrick Roy is associated with the Armada, I wonder where that started.

by Francesca on Oct 12, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you sure?

Because Roy was reportedly associated with the Montreal Junior at the time of the Maineiacs dispersal draft. He was quoted as saying that he didn’t really want to draft Kirill. Maybe Roy switched over to Quebec once the Junior were sold and moved to wherever that place is???

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 12, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to Wikipedia

Roy is associated with the Ramparts, not the Montreal Juniors, or whatever they’re called now

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by DarthDoyle on Oct 12, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea

I’m not sure where that whole Roy rumor started, but it seems to be totally unfounded. He’s been with the Ramparts since at least 2006.

by afrosupreme on Oct 12, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I must have remembered it wrong...I found the article I was thinking of

I thought that Roy didn’t want him and ended up picking him up anyway..thus associating him with Montreal Junior.

Here is the article:
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Ffr.canoe.ca%2Fsports%2Fnouvelles%2Fhockey%2Flhjmq%2Farchives%2F2011%2F06%2F20110603-185005.html&act=url

But yes, Roy didn’t want him…then didn’t take him.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 12, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes I'm sure

From the Remparts site

In June 2003 the team’s co-owner, Patrick Roy, ends a prestigious goaltending career in the NHL and joins the organization as Vice-President of Hockey Operations.

by Francesca on Oct 12, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another thing about Sweden and "skirting"

I still don’t know that he could play in the SEL without the Islanders’ permission, since the NHL and SEL have a working transfer agreement and the NHL-CHL agreement (kept in a cave somewhere under Cheney’s pillow) seems designed to keep NHL teams from developing their CHL-age kids elsewhere. You’d think that would be covered, otherwise I bet a lot of teams would rather their kid develop there and avoid the CHL nonsense.

A true skirting would be to whisper in KK’s ear to go play in a league where there is no current transfer agreement.

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by Dominik on Oct 12, 2011 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously

I think that if it’s any other player, the agent is ranting and raving right now…I’m sure the Isles are having him NOT do that, but it really is a bitchable issue and with enough noise could probably be worked out quickly.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 12, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Simple Solution

Send $20K in a briefcase to the Armada, and KK to Bridgeport. That will get the Armada a new scoreboard and everybody’s happy.
Or just send him to BPT… what is the actual PENALTY for breaking the CHL treaty? If it’s less than a $20K fine you’re way ahead of the game. If it’s just being ostracized by the rest of the league… you’ll have to do better than that. They paid a $100K fine because Zenon Konopka just said he wasn’t gonna take it anymore… so $20K to get one of the best Islander forward prospects to a team with a coaching staff they can trust should be well worth it.
JUST GET IT DONE!

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by JPinVA on Oct 12, 2011 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Sigh...From Puck Dadyyy's Puck Headlines
• New York Islanders prospect Kirill Kabonov: “Everyone [in Russia] kept saying ‘NHL, NHL.’ You get there and will be famous.. As a boy I had an impression [the NHL] was paradise. But when I came here I realized that the made-up image and reality are different things.” [Lighthouse Hockey]

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 12, 2011 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Left hand says:

“Hey right hand, where you at?”

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by Dominik on Oct 12, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way to read the story, Wysh

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by PGI on Oct 12, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Why are they citing LHH as the source of this quote?

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they're linking to our story on it

But yeah, it looks like they are sourcing the quote to us. Chesnokov did all of that stuff via twitter, so maybe he hasn’t seen the tweets yet? No idea really.

But at least if people click it, they’ll get the good lowdown instead of reading it somewhere else.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 12, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

But at least if people click it, they’ll get the good lowdown instead of reading it somewhere else.

True. I just get annoyed that even more reputable sites relatively speaking seem to have little concern regarding primary sources.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

On the plus side

You guys got some press.

That’s good news…right?

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by Fabtraption on Oct 12, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad people will get here and read the story

but I’d rather the quotes not go out like that or look like we said them. It just sucks because for a kid like this, all of this shit gathers momentum and people fly off the handle. IPB comments are already about entitled Russians and kid with character issues…it just sucks that it feeds those who don’t investigate further.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 12, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

IPB comments are already about entitled Russians and kid with character issues…it just sucks that it feeds those who don’t investigate further.

shocking

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's the problem with Wysh Wash

He’s mildly retarded.

The whole staff of Puck Daddy are dopes whose understanding of the game comes from repeated viewings of Disney’s “The Mighty Ducks”.

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by BrassBonanza10 on Oct 13, 2011 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

The way I see it, the Isles have to act first and foremost in the best interest of the Islanders' franchise, and its' assets

and that can be done professionally, without personalizing it, acting like a dick for the media to look tough (see leafs and rags couches)…both have a job in TV after Cherry moves on

essentially, the junior team needs to know they are there to develop and feed for the NHL, it is the NHL team that is always top priority, what is best for NHL team and in this case, the Isles asset KK…if necessary, you don’t worry about stepping on the toes of some junior team owner who probably won’t even own the team in a few years.

If not forbidden by some legally binding contract, Snow should give the junior team a a polite, but firm and to the point deadline. You either trade KK to another junior team by such and such a date, release him to us so he can be sent down to BP one year under age, or, we will be acting on what we feel is in the best professional interests of the islander’s franchise and its asset, KK…which means we have a team in the SEL willing to take him, and that is where we will be sending him…of course, before they all walk into the meeting room, they’ll shake hands in the hall, exchange small talk etc….and after the closing of the media the small talk starts again…how’s the weather down your way, the wife and kids, heard you just had an election, what do you think of this kid Yakupov…in reality, it will be interesting how this plays out between the CHL and SEL…will the SEL welcome it as retaliation for the CHL taking their top kids? What if junior kids or Europeans opt for SEL? Will the CHL react by striking back at SEL and increase the number of Euros allowed per team? How will N. American hockey respond to that? This could be the tempest in a teapot of a lot more drama..or, all parties could just look at it as a rarity, and decide best to ignore it, let him go to Sweden and forget about it…

by CanadianIsleslifer on Oct 12, 2011 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Not sure

the Swedish HA would be pleased if the CHL increased the number of Euros allowed per team. Could mean more players opt for NA instead of developing here. They are already concerned that so many players play in the CHL.

by DavidSweden on Oct 12, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

after reading your comment david

i am wondering if the Russian journalist who wrote this could have been trying to appeal to Russian pride/egos a bit, here he has Kabanov thinking the grass wasn’t greener on other side…should have stayed home…sends a message to Russians in general, and Russian teenagers thinking about the CHL.

by CanadianIsleslifer on Oct 12, 2011 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I absolutely agree.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is absolutely my read

The original article (admittedly through the murky screen of Google Translate) doesn’t really carry that tone to me — or at least carries enough context to make the picture clear.

Selecting those quotes and adding “upset with NHL?” sounds like stirring a bit for the readers.

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by Dominik on Oct 12, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Snow has demonstrated this before

with Kyle Okposo…pulling him out of college! “Kyle, come play hockey. You don’t need a degree.”

I think we will see Garth flex some muscle again.

by JPinNYC on Oct 12, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

DP left practice with Type 2 Islander face.
StapeNewsday Arthur Staple
DiPietro takes shot off mask, leaves #Isles practice early. mobile.newsday.com/inf/infomo;JSE…

Sorry to thread jack

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 12, 2011 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Before anyone goes there

I’m sure someone has already said, “THAT’S why they brought in Rolston…”

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by Dominik on Oct 12, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

WOOT

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by garik16 on Oct 12, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

One down...

C’mon! The Stay Puffed Russian Back Up Goalie must be worth no worse than a 7th rounder and a case of Moulson Canadian!

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by BrassBonanza10 on Oct 13, 2011 5:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

KHL over NHL: I think this is yet another journalist trying to invent a story: Seriously, look up Spezza 18 - 21 age hockey years and the Sens

you’d never know it today, but it clearly looked like both parties may part ways and Spezza would never play for the Sens. Spezza was the consensus 2nd overall pick, and sure enough was drafted there. (don’t want to talk about Yashin or Chara). Spezza was left in Juniors for his two years, did more than the usual time on the farm, and under constant media criticism to bring him up to NHL, the Sens (I think it was Bryan Murray who was GM) held their ground, bringing him up when they felt he was ready. Of course, Spezza, being a high pick was very disappointed and not happy about it…

what KK said is literally nothing, and I don’t see any of it as an issue other than the journalist who obviously was inventing some news.

Can anyone blame KK for being disappointed? Seriously, if he isn’t, something is wrong.

Perhaps it wasn’t the best thing to discuss so openly and trusting with a journalist. And for his game, in hindsight, maybe staying in Europe until he is ready to play in the NHL would have been a better idea. I could be wrong, just my opinion, I’ve taught many kids KK’s age and my gut feeling is that the QMHL is not the best place for him…I see KK as a kid with a good heart, wants to be liked no matter how much he may let on it doesn’t matter…I also see him as a kid that gets bored and needs to be constantly challenged, hence the better play in big games. He also strikes me as a kid who loves to seek a thrill and adrln. rush that provides. and of course, he is a little immature, so sure, their is some nurturing to do. I know pro-sports, especially CHL like to control and maintain their image, but neck tatoos, “sleave tatoos” piercings…there is a sub-culture among the young where this is pretty mainstream. KK has yet to get a tatoo somewhere where at least 100,000 haven’t done it first. It’s not like he’s leading anyone’s kid astray.

KK is obviously not NHL ready, but is only a year or two away…needs to add some muscle to his 6’3 frame…SEL will teach him positional D, and him not being a checker, this may actually be the best place for him over the more physical AHL…

the main detractors would be, will he get the ice time in the SEL, which is a none factor if he can’t play in N. America…and, will this negatively impact his transition to N. American Ice, which again is a non factor if KK can’t play in N. America.

by CanadianIsleslifer on Oct 12, 2011 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks like KHL is also in play...

KatieStrangESPN: Sounds like #Isles prospect Kirill Kabanov is headed to Europe. Should know more soon, but he has offer from team in KHL and Sweden

by Francesca on Oct 12, 2011 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Heh...

If true, Chesnokov’s ‘additional tweet’ makes him look pretty stupid.
Fortunately, I think “there’s 0 chance” he would go play for them. Kirill is an Islander.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can players be loaned to the KHL same as SEL? That seems like it would be fine.

by afrosupreme on Oct 12, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have to think about Kirills history.

Petrov is in the KHL and he is part of the Isles organization. But there is no loaning or anyhting like that going on because the leagues have no agreement.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

So basically he’d be signing a new contract with a KHL team and they’d give two craps that he’s Islanders’ property. Doesn’t sound like a great fit.

Also, I imagine with the attitude adjustment he seemed to undergo last year, sending him back there where I imagine all his boys are is probably also a bad idea.

by afrosupreme on Oct 12, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kabanov did not like the KHL

I do not see him going back there.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not exactly

Any contract he signs would only be for the rest of this hockey season. I think the contract would have to be recognized by the IIHF since they are the ruling body. Also the NHL and the KHL did come to an agreement some months back that they would recognize and not circumvent each leagues contracts. This had to do with the whole Radulov mess.

by Shane72 on Oct 12, 2011 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Columbus

Last year, they loaned Filatov back to his KHL club CSKA for the rest of the season after he said he didn’t want to play in the AHL. Of course, this is NHL loaning to KHL… I doubt it would be reciprocated.

by Shane72 on Oct 12, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Petrov's situation has nothing to do with the missing NHL-KHL agreement

Petrov already had a valid contract before the Islanders drafted him. The draft doesn’t give an NHL team worldwide rights to a player and certainly not the right to nullify a contract signed in another league.
Also a missing agreement doesn’t exclude loans. Switzerland doesn’t have an agreement with the NHL and yet, Huet is here on loan.

by Francesca on Oct 12, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I reread TMC's message

and realized I misunterstood her. Disregard the Petrov part.

by Francesca on Oct 12, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

no problem :)

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

The two Kirills

You have to think about Kirills history.
Petrov is in the KHL and he is part of the Isles organization.

I thought you were talking about Petrov’s history and noticed only later you meant the other Kirill.

by Francesca on Oct 12, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah- you find that you are already conditioned/used to things like having lots of Matts and Marks, but I need to remember that we have a couple of Kirills when I type lol.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kirills last Facebook status

“I proud to be a part of NHL!!!!!! Dont listen to the media..”

He also said in a previous post that reporters misquoted him and how stupid people are to believe that bullshit. lol

by Killbox76 on Oct 12, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

update on the chl side

http://futureconsiderations.ca/hertzberg-out-kabanov-in/

a spot is now open on the armada roster

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by DarthDoyle on Oct 12, 2011 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

You're a good fan then.

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by garik16 on Oct 12, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

or just a college student with add

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by DarthDoyle on Oct 12, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are other types of college students?

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by garik16 on Oct 12, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea...in my dorm there are 3 other kinds

engineering nerds who cant speak to women
the ones who are always drunk
and the ones always sleeping

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by DarthDoyle on Oct 12, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

been fun researching this one

I’m the one who first spotted only one European on the Armada roster yesterday on that older thread

who are they fooling….

and lets see if this new signature thing works…

by Cary K on Oct 12, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

I suck at the internet…(as you all know by now)

by Cary K on Oct 12, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Errr, didn't mean anything.

Herzberg was thought to have a roster spot, but had injury issues. Online was more likely wrong yesterday, with this being new news.

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by garik16 on Oct 12, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

That roster has had only one European on it for a few weeks now. I linked it a while back. I think they just update it rarely if ever.

But Hertzberg was very recently (last few days) added making it two. Some of their fans speculated the other Russian player would go, as he apparently isn’t used very much, making room for Kabanov.

Guess we’ll find out if KK was driving the bus on this thing at all since it seems like he’d be able to report now.

by afrosupreme on Oct 12, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

their other euro was just taken off

he has had 3 concussions within 1 year so it seems like he may stop playing hockey right now. the fact remains that there is now an open spot for KK on the Armada roster

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by DarthDoyle on Oct 12, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea

I don’t think the other European was ever added to the roster list on their website is what I meant.

by afrosupreme on Oct 12, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just spent the better part of an hour reading this article and its following posts...

and I just feel like a better man, a better Islander, for having done so.

by Bri On LI on Oct 12, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well

that would solve things right quick I guess.

by afrosupreme on Oct 12, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

it would

but i feel like there is a lot of tension right now between KK and the Armada. I can only see two reasons why there wasnt room for KK on the Armada.
1) The Armada was just being idiotic and not realizing wtf was going on
2) KK said something that might have strained the relationship between the two

Both are reasonable theories but still, i feel real sorry for the guy right now, hes 19 and on the verge on playing for his 4th team in a little over a year

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by DarthDoyle on Oct 12, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

he may still not have to deal with it at all

we’ll see

one thing’s for sure – he’s an interesting kid

he might make a better 3rd liner than what we have going

Dallas – nead some salary? take Josh Bailey – please

Comeau-Rolston-Kabanov anyone?

by Cary K on Oct 12, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Two things: 1. Rolston may not be able to ply center.

B. Kabanov can’t hit the NHL this season. CHL won’t allow it to happen.

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by garik16 on Oct 12, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're missing the point:

The CHL will never allow a precedent to be set by having a 19 year old go from the CHL to the NHL after he was cut. Won’t happen. Or AHL.

The SEL is a possible work around. But not the NHL or AHL.

Rolston meanwhile probably can’t play center, and unlike Bailey shows no chance of getting better.

Also, Dallas no longer needs salary after picking up Nystrom.

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by garik16 on Oct 12, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

THE BEST POST THIS SEASON!

Nice work 2011!

Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!

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by Isles2011 on Oct 14, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not knowing as much about ...

this Kabanov’s ACTUAL GAME as many of you, I’m a little lost as to what the big deal is with this guy. Everytime I turn around there’s some stir about him not showing up for something, or being late for a practice, or not seeming to play hard or criticizing the borscht in North America. I’ve been hearing and reading about this stuff with this guy for so long already it’s hard believe he’s 19, and he still hasn’t come close to playing an NHL game yet. Talk about high maintenance. Is this player so talented and such a ’can’t miss’ prospect that it’s worth enduring his whole act, and the worse that’s sure to come once he’s actually in the NHL? Or is there a chance this guy’s gonna turn out to be fraud and total bust like Brian Bosworth and end up in some idiot action movie or on some underwater gladiator show?

by dose on Oct 13, 2011 8:10 AM EDT reply actions  

The big issue

is that it’s really not so much of a tired act…it seems to get blown out of proportion because he had previous problems. But yes, he is potentially worth it. At points, he was considered a top 5 draft pick whose stock slipped mostly due to those off-ice problems. The only real maintenance at this point seems to be trying to undo what the media has generated. The last thing that he really caused was his couple of latenesses during rookie camp last year. Since then, he was a model citizen in Maine, went on a scoring binge in their playoffs and was a candidate for QMJHL humanitarian of the year, signed his ELC, was among the last cuts at camp, worked the draft party like a saint and has had nothing but positive things to say.

I think people actually were comparing him to Malkin/Ovechkin type of talent.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 13, 2011 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

the thing is that he has NOT been being high maintenance.

Thats what is making the media look that much harder for anything they can possibly blow out of proportion.

Youre not seeing scandal every time you turn around, youre seeing people bringing up old shit and making a big deal out of nothing. This kid is working hard and, as Keith said, has been a model player. But alas, that is just not as interesting as scandal.

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by TheMetalChick on Oct 13, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

There isn't an issue with him

and hasn’t been since last year.

And he’s super talented – one scout, Corey Pronman, has him our #2 prospect in terms of talent, behind Strome.

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by garik16 on Oct 13, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

watch the rookie scrimmage, there's a link somewhere

i know its just a rookie scrimmage, but still…Kabanov is paired with Nino and Strome, so nice passing

by CanadianIsleslifer on Oct 13, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It strikes me as odd ...

that a guy who hasn’t done anything gets so much ink.
If it’s more overblown nonsense from the hockey press than anything else, and the guy has even close to Malkin, Ovechkin talent, then all the dopey coverage about meaningless issues is fine with me.

by dose on Oct 13, 2011 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't put KK in OV or Malkin's class

OV is an elite talent, some would say generational — could retire as greatest Russian ever to play in NHL

by CanadianIsleslifer on Oct 13, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ovechkin ...

definitely is elite. His sheer size and power is scary, just like LeBron James. When Ovechkin carries the puck with a full head of steam you can almost see guys get the hell out his way, just like when James thunders down the lane to the hoop.

by dose on Oct 13, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

But

what about Alexei Yashin?

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by Fabtraption on Oct 14, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Färjestad could be his new home

sunayas: It would appear that Färjestad is the Swedish team that will land #QMJHL forward & NY Islanders prospect Kirill Kabanov. (Via @uffebodin) [http://twitter.com/#!/sunayas/status/124491313436573696]

IgorEronko: Islanders’ Kirill Kabanov moves to Farjestad of SEL as per nwt.se [http://twitter.com/#!/IgorEronko/status/124482469562036225]

by Francesca on Oct 13, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

not familar with Swedish system

but you do read that team’s name or town a lot, is this a good team? can you give us some background at all Francesca? please and thank you either way

by CanadianIsleslifer on Oct 13, 2011 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

saw that this morning

i hope he really excels there, and if im not mistaken, doesnt the SEL season end before the NHL season does? if thats the case could we potentially see KK in bridgeport for a few games, it really couldnt hurt to ahve him play some more games with the farm

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by DarthDoyle on Oct 13, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i do believe he can not play in BP at all this season without his Jr. team's release

next season; however, is a different story…i hope this one is true, a year in Sweden to work on positional D (KK has a tall frame @ 6’3, will fillout in time) since he is not physical but has big body, next year the more physical AHL when he is a year older and bigger, better defensively, and the following year it is NHL time.

by CanadianIsleslifer on Oct 13, 2011 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny
Kabanová said this to the Edmonton Journal about his reputation:

- People think I’m the devil himself, but really I’m kind of an angel.

Tavares is Tavares.

by afrosupreme on Oct 13, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

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