Bits: Suppose you're an agent, and suppose you've an agenda. But I repeat myself.
In the past two years, NHL agent Allan Walsh has:
1) Taken to Twitter to stoke a Montreal goalie controversy in favor of his client, who promptly put up a bad 2010-11 while his surviving partner blossomed for the Habs; 2) Stoked controversy when his guy was not named Capitals opening night starter, only to see that client give up five goals when his turn came; 3) Ripped Brendan Shanahan's much-welcomed explanatory suspension videos with enough ridiculous hyperbole to make Don Cherry blush.
And that is why I don't trust really vocal agents. Including the one who makes the rounds about Alexei Yashin each and every single summer.
Agents are good lawyers and negotiators, and good at leaking tailored information to the media when it serves their purpose. But media relations experts? Reliable narrators? No. Usually not. Publicly the really loud ones are as agenda-driven and condescending to their audience as politicians, except they don't even have to make concessions to their base. It's "show me the money time," all the time.
Islanders Links
Reading a lot into Al Montoya's two starts: Newsday, the Times, the Goalie Guild and the official site (not to mention comments in multiple threads at our own site here). I am utterly amazed how much attention this has gotten. After two games. After Montoya finished last season as the team's best option.
- This Patch reporter tours the Coliseum, makes Travis Hamonic grin.
- Not adding much but here's a reset of the Kirill Kabanov situation with his junior team, the Bigword-Hyphen-Frenchwords, at their max for imports. We've been chewing this over in comments here, too.
- Skates on a Plane: The Walk-Off [Skates on a Plane]
- It's coming up on power rankings time, and THN has the Isles 22nd after two games, for what that's worth.
- The Checking Line: Isles need to search for offense.
- Chris at NYIFYI on the Wild game.
- 7th Woman on NHL Weekly show on sportstalknetwork.
Hockey is Reason Enough to Wake Up Links
Ol' Islanders Richard Park scored a funky goal last night (sorry about the announcers):
Rival watching I: The Pens beat the Panthers last night, but Malkin sat out again.
Rival watching II: Tampa Bay will be without Ohlund Thursday, and up to two months or so after that.
Rival watching III: So the Isles have RW depth issues. The Smurfs have LW issues. Discuss.
Old men and a coach: Chelios, Guerin, Waddell
Bruins lock up Rich Peverley, a great trade deadline acquisition last year.
Mostly interesting, but I found the conclusion to this Justin Bourne piece confusing. It seems to say a good medical staff is a conservative one, one that doesn't let you play hurt. But then it says a team with multiple injuries year after year needs a new staff ... but isn't a team with a lot of published injuries a team with a conservative staff? Might be two separate ideas here.
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins joined John Tavares, Billy Harris, and precious few other #1 overall picks in scoring in his NHL debut.
Completely OT but Funny: If you're too young or it wasn't on your radar, this may not make sense. But for NFL fans (I was one at the time), this old skit about when Monday Night Football added Dennis Miller is fantastic. Naturally, Will Ferrell and Tracy Morgan steal the show in supporting roles. Took me back.
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I am utterly amazed how much attention this has gotten. After two games. After Montoya finished last season as the team’s best option.
Dom, all season all the talking heads were blabbering on about how Nabokov might finally solidify the Islanders rocky Goaltending situation. To them Montoya = Bust Nabokov = Elite Goalie. Montoya would have to do something insane to escape that label, while Nabokov couldn’t get rid of his tag despite bombing out in the KHL and WCs.
Also I love that the Rangers are off to a 0-0-2, but whoever makes up the schedule is insane. Rangers played October 8th and don’t play again until they face the Isles on the 15th? Going to be a tough game.
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by Mark D on Oct 12, 2011 7:00 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Plus
Two things have defined the Islanders of this millennium: losing and Rick DiPietro. I think to have DP pushed aside by a guy brought in by a sixth round pick under emergency circumstances is surprising to people who didn’t see us the last two months of the year. Especially when said guy has had little prior success at the pro level.
I would say Yashin even before DiPietro
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
premiere games
Look at last year’s schedule, the teams that played the opening series in Europe got a week off afterwards. Sabres, Kings, and Ducks get nearly a week off as well. The 6/7 hour time differences and flight schedules make it make sense.
by dunnowhat2type on Oct 12, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, one week off is appropriate for teams who started the season overseas
What was insane, was the Ranger’s preseason schedule.
Czech Republic→Sweden→Slowakia→Switzerland in 5 days? And then back to Sweden for the premiere games? It was certainly lucrative, EV Zug for example allegedly paid a 800’000$ fee, but was it worth a 8-4 humiliation and 2 regular season losses?
Hey I'm on board with whatever makes the Rangers lose.
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by Fabtraption on Oct 12, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That’s right, I forgot they were playing in Europe
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True
I did see a lot of previews slotting Nabby or DP as the starter, not so much Montoya. I guess I’m just still perplexed by two games. Two games! It’s a long season, and having three goalies means they have options.
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by Dominik on Oct 12, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was actually speechless watching Monday's NHL OT on Versus
After discussing (very briefly) the Islanders-Wild game, Patrick had the surprised about Montoya reaction, but then followed it up with something like “Certainly they can’t hope to ride Al Montoya all year” with so much derision that it cannot be reproduced in prose here. Olczyk said that Nabokov would eventually be the starter because he’ll give them them the best chance to win and that they could look to trade Big Al. By the time it was done, my brain was spinning in so many different directions i didn’t know what to yell at the guys on the TV that can’t hear me.
The “winner” and “loser” tags stick a whole lot longer when the TV talking heads, aka the guys who are supposed to know everything, just keep hammering them home. I’ve never seen Nabokov as anything more than an asset to trade for spare parts. Last season, the Islanders just needed a body (preferably human) to play goalie. Plus he was cheap and available for nothing. Turns out, so was Montoya, who actually wanted to play for the Islanders.
Would it really be that shocking if Montoya, who was on depth charts behind two guys names Lundqvist and Bryzgalov, turned out to be a perfectly competent starting goalie?
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by PGI on Oct 12, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
If Nabby gave anybody a better chance of winning
He’d already be somebody else’s goalie. Right now, I’d like to keep the younger higher ceiling asset.
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by Keith Quinn on Oct 12, 2011 11:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s always about the narrative. Whatever story the talking heads wants to push won’t change until they change. It’s no wonder why guys like milbury, McGuire, weekes, McClellan, Jones and engblom are the idiots who keep chattering and chattering.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Oct 12, 2011 1:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The NHL Scheduling is just stupid.
Every year the NHL has some points in its season where some teams have played up to 4 or even 5 more games than another team. Just ridiculous.
The NHL should make its games events by having hockey always on certain nights. None of this seemingly random scheduling – If I want to know when the Isles are on, if I’m not near a computer I have no clue.
Make hockey always played for every team on specific days of the week like say M-W-Fri-Sat. Or you can have two teams play sunday instead of saturday each week. The current system is just stupid.
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Can't really happen
because most of those arenas are multipurpose and host a bunch of other events.
I actually can’t imagine how the scheduling for those arenas work. Has to be crazy.
by afrosupreme on Oct 12, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm aware there are difficulties.
But something can be done. The current system is just stupid – the team can play 4-5 times in 8 days and then play once in ten.
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It's how
the NBA is too. Seems unlikely to change. And I really don’t think it’s a big deal. They’re big boys.
by afrosupreme on Oct 12, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
This would lengthen the season considerably
Some of these arenas make bank off multi-night touring events, which inevitably visit a lot of the arenas affected. Combine that with the lopsided travel realities East to West along with different teams really lobbying for specific home days, and they could never get it done for 82 games.
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I wouldn't mind
if the season were to get longer. Start in late august/early September instead if that makes the schedule more fan-friendly.
Going without hockey between April/May to October is too long anyway.
by DavidSweden on Oct 12, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Hockey is the longest sport in the country.
Seriously, training camp starts in September and the Stanley Cup ends in June.
That’s ten months out of the year for hockey.
Basketball is October —> June
Football is August —> February
Baseball is February —> October
It just feels so long because we’re all obsessive freaks.
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by Fabtraption on Oct 12, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Would be interested to see what the players want
I suspect they’d take the longer summer over the stretched out schedule, but not sure.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 12, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
owners would prefer more games, less pre-season if possible: ideally an extra round of playoffs
they make more money this way
if ever the league gets to 36 or more teams, they’ll be a push for the top 32 to all be in playoffs. Playoff revenue mostly all goes to the owners…in the old 21 team league, only five teams ever missed the playoffs…and as long as you have a shot at playoffs, fans will keep coming to regular season games in higher numbers.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Oct 12, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec. Montoya would have to walk on water to get media praise.
His ahl career is unimpressive. The skills are there though, if Monty can or keep putting it together, the recognition will come.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
I just want to say thank you!
These past few days I’ve been reading other SB Nation blogs as well, for fantasy reasons and to get other teams perspectives on happenings in the NHL. It’s amazing how poor some of the writing is. And the attendance! My God, some of the blogs only get a dozen responses in their game thread! Thank you LHH for putting together such a kick ass blog!
by 54_Fighting on Oct 12, 2011 8:11 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
54,
I’ve noticed the same thing. I was talking about it during the Wild game.
It’s nice our writers talk about our team when they write and not make stuff up about the other teams. Well, unless it’s the Pens. And they don’t have to make it up. ;o)
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 12, 2011 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL!
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Do remember to support those blogs getting low amounts of comments if the contents good. I’ve been following LHH since near the beginning (it started in November and I found it in March) and I couldn’t believe how quiet it was. Now it’s nearly impossible to keep up with the comments, and I’m more then willing to admit that the discussions in the comments are just as much fun as reading the stories themselves.
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I was just saying the same thing to Dom
about the comments. Man it is getting tough to read everything. good think my work schedule is light.
But yeah, the thing is that some of the teams get better media coverage (Montreal, Edmonton for example) and therefore, the blogs don’t get as much traffic. Also, it depends on how the comments are treated. We try to engage people, others may not as much…but also, comments don’t necessarily equal traffic (how often something is read).
For example, the Zeitgeist posts are often well read, but low comments…there’s just nothing to hash out because it’s all make-believe!
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This wasn't so much me telling you how this works Mark
because I know you know…just building on your idea. Sorry if it came off kind of “know it all” ish!
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"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 12, 2011 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions
No, it made perfect sense. My one counterpoint is the insane amount of coverage that the Leafs get, and PPP is one of the most popular hockey blogs on SBN.
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Also one of the oldest
They’ve been here for a very long time, so that also helps (not to take away from them also being very good).
By the way, just to re-iterate Mark’s point: It takes a while. And lots of people who can do this can only do it for a year or two before real life gets in the way. Our game threads used to be me talking to other bloggers, then talking to myself, then talking to Mark.
Plus, we tend to encourage online discussion because I have no friends in real life.
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i think it was either you or Dom who said it way back
the Toronto hockey market needs to be split up. The coverage isn’t insane when you look at the demographics. Approx. 1/3 of Canada lives in southern Ontario, which produces somewhere around half (just estimating) the NHL’s players…they easily have the largest hockey fan base. Imagine if there were only one baseball, basketball, football and hockey team each in New York?
A few years back RIM (blackberry) owner Jim Basillie wanted to move the Coyotes to Hamilton Ontario, of course that war with Bettman is well documented so I won’t go into it, but although Betman octracized Basillie, it led to a few independent studies, and I believe the NHL did one as well…the results were that the Toronto and GTA (Greater Toronto Area) could support not one, but two additional teams. One in the North of the city, one in Hamilton…Don Cherry feels Hamilton will not get a relocated team b/c NHL will want the expansion fee. For decades, many journalists have claimed that Buffalo would be in trouble if Hamilton were given an NHL franchise, and, have claimed this was a major factor in Hamilton not getting an NHL team to date.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Oct 12, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
the thing is that some of the teams get better media coverage (Montreal, Edmonton for example) and therefore, the blogs don’t get as much traffic.
This is absolutely true. Over at the NHLArena, the Habs board is one of the lowest-posting boards on the entire site. Its not because there arent Habs fans, its because they have SO many media options they do not have to rely much on blogs.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Habs have a crazy amount of media coverage, in both official languages
if your good with your french, which i am not, the french media can be interesting…they tend to be more liberal than english media and sometimes publish things that mainstream english media (the montreal gazette) do not.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Oct 12, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Kirill Kabanov
IgorEronko Igor Eronko
by wyshynski
Hearing that Islanders Kirill Kabanov will be loaned to some Swedish club for this year
21 minutes ago
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bad news there...
while its great that he would be playing, he needs to play on the smaller surface, not the bigger ones used in the sel
loving the tears of fallen leaf fans...JT IS OURS
I don't like him being closer to the KHL
Don’t want him to be tempted to go home.
No Sleep 'til....Belmont?
by Anarcurt on Oct 12, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
KK wants to be an NHL player
He even posted about it on his facebook page. Even though I think he knew he wasn’t making the team, he was still bummed about not making it.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 12, 2011 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
He has no interest in the KHL.
You don’t come to Juniors from Russia if you want to play in Russia.
the SEL would be a step up in competition – not quite the AHL, but better than Jrs.
The key is whether he would get playing time – I could see him basically playing very little on an SEL team.
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The key is whether he would get playing time – I could see him basically playing very little on an SEL team.
That is my concern, too.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
SEL wouldn’t be my first opition either. But kid needs to play games so the sooner the situation is solved the better imo.
There are some teams in the SEL that at the moment are in desperate need of offense.
by DavidSweden on Oct 12, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
For "Hockey Prospectus" subscribers
Apparently, there is some info here on Nelson and Petrov.
http://www.hockeyprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=1124
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Both are playing great
I haven’t subscribed yet (still haven’t finished the 500 page annual) but I’m guessing it’s a whole lot of positive. Petrov is 6-2-8 +3 in 11 games and Brock is 2-1-3 +1 in 2 games with a great preseason as well.
No Sleep 'til....Belmont?
This is Petrov's last season in the KHL, correct?
Geez, I hope it is…
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Yes
And he really wants to be in the NHL next year. Check out this interview . It seems like he sees this as his most important year; that he needs to prove his worth so the Isles will play him next year. If he keeps playing like this I’d say he has a spot.
No Sleep 'til....Belmont?
:)
Keep up that play and that attitude KP, and you will be an Islander!
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Pronman tweeted positive thoughts about Brock the other night.
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"Lowly"
How long before the media stops referring to us as the “Lowly Isles.” Not that the Isles have neccesarily proved anything concrete yet but christ- wait more than two games before you stamp the “lowly” appendage back on the islanders or use a different adjective.
Take em to the jabrone-zone
bottom 5 picks year after year will do that to ya
even the NFL’s lions can’t shake it, and they’re 5-0 this year! it takes time to wash the stink off
These comments crawl up from the depths of the deepest Chasm of Saar
Those Lowly Lions
Who do they think they are, with a 5-0 start?! They should know their place!
by SchneiderDiricov on Oct 12, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
In Fairness to the NFL
It seems like the last few years there’s been these teams that show flashes of greatness then Disappear. Both the Bills and Lions have had seasons in which they come out great in the first five or six games, and then lose all but 1 down the stretch.
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Is there a "drop dead"
…date for sending back Nino and Strome if they’re not going to play them?
Is the AHL an option for Kabanov? Would that start his ELC?
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
Yea
October twentysomething for Strome and Nino. Otherwise they have to stay for the year.
I wondered that about KK too when I saw Keith’s comment about him going to the SEL on the other KK post. Seems like not starting his ECL would be the only reason to send him there as opposed to the AHL because it seems like either way he’d have to be released by his Q team.
That dat's just based on 10 games on the Islanders schedule, isn't it?
Because if they haven’t played, they can still stay. (Bailey’s decision in 08 didn’t happen until well into November, I believe.)
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Aaahh
that must be it. I saw it written “must be returned by October 2x” and didn’t think that the Isles 10th game is October 29. I always forget they must be returned before the team’s 10th game, not their own 10th game.
Actually...
if you go by Bailey it is the player’s 10th game. I guess we’ll see in a few weeks. But sitting both Strome and Nino for what amounts to two weeks can’t be that good for them. I wonder if they’re just testing them… let them act on their own with subtle guidance and see where they land…
A. In the lounge playing xBox… back to junior.
B. In the gym… stick around some more where we can watch you, and you can get in soem NHL games.
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
I like this
A. Eat at McDonalds every day … back to junior
B. Eat at All American … stick around.
by afrosupreme on Oct 12, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I need to check out all american when I'm there next month
I saw it on tv.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 12, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't bother ordering a regular cheeseburger
Go straight for the “Double Double”, which is the All-American version of a double cheeseburger. Order 2 of those, fries, and shake and you’ll be all set.
by SchneiderDiricov on Oct 12, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Good order
I actually prefer the quarter pounder with cheese, but to each his own. But the fries are amazing. Don’t cheat yourself on the fries.
by afrosupreme on Oct 12, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
No matter what you order
It will be cheap as hell. Three people can each eat very full meals for less and $10.
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2 Double Doubles vs. Quarter Pounder
I find that a quarter pounder goes too quickly. It takes longer to eat 2 double doubles, therefore a prolonged all-american eating experience = prolonged happiness.
by SchneiderDiricov on Oct 12, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Woah
It was on tv? That’s wild. Which show?
Never in the hundreds of times I ate there growing up did I imagine it would be on tv someday…
by afrosupreme on Oct 12, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe it was a show called Burger Paradise on the travel channel.
That place is pretty famous. Is it close to the Coli?
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 12, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Not far
like everything in Nassau County it’s the proverbial “twenty minutes” away.
But it was about 1.5 miles from where I grew up.
by afrosupreme on Oct 12, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
but i won't be driving
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 12, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Helicopter?
Even faster!
You should be able to get a train/cab there pretty easily, depending on where you’re staying.
by afrosupreme on Oct 12, 2011 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
The Marriot
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 12, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
What afro said
It’s not “close,” but it’s not far either. About 20 minutes.
Make sure you get a thick shake, too.
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Probably
about a mile walk from the Massapequa train station. Getting there is a little more challenging as you’d either have to take the Hempstead line toward the city and then the Babylon line back out. Or find a bus/cab down to either the Baldwin or Freeport train stations.
Doable though, and totally worth it.
by afrosupreme on Oct 12, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
i miss all american.
I’m getting it next time i go back to NY.
I'm a mets, jets, islander, and terps fan. Also known as a glutton for perennial punishment.
If you know the area,
it’s on Merrick Road in Massapequa.
Here’s the address if you get a taxi/GPS:
4286 Merrick Rd
Massapequa, NY 11758
If you don’t know the area well, take Hempstead Turnpike East from the Marriott, drive ~5-10mins and make a right onto Wantagh State Parkway “South”, take that for I’d say ~10mins and then take the exit “Merrick Road-East”. Now take Merrick Road down ~5mins and All American is on your right after an old school looking “carvel/ice-cream shop”. It’s right next to a stop light, so you can’t miss it.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
I've never been to Long island
And I’m a small town boy who is lost with all this talk of trains. My idea of a train is something that carrys stuff that flys by you without people on it. ;o)
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 12, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
We are all about trains here in NY. LIRR trains on LI, subway trains in the boroughs, you name it. I literally never go more than 48 hours without being on multiple trains. :)
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I live near the beach in Florida surrounded by water
No train tracks within 60 miles. Of any kind.
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 12, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Afro, here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5ivMlIq4sI
"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."
by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 12, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Oooo
A. Shotgun wedding to a street corner girl… back to junior
B. Shotgun wedding to one of Moulson’s sisters…. stick around
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 12, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, it's the player's 10th game (well, 10 is when the ELC fully triggers)
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My Prediction
“Is that whoever puts the most points on the scoreboard, will probably win tonight’s football game”.
Classic.
by SchneiderDiricov on Oct 12, 2011 9:25 AM EDT reply actions
Dom...
Montoya’s 2 starts are news because it is being seen as a sign that the isles are no longer worried about contract status, they’re worried about winning… it’s kind of a big deal
either that or they really didnt like rick’s exit interview last year where he assumed he was the #1
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rick’s exit interview last year where he assumed he was the #1
Ah yes, that interview where he didnt say that at all but it was spinned that way anyway.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Is that the quote from Strang?
Where he said “who are we talking about?” when asked about an upcoming 3-goalie competition?
Agree that his answer does not explicitly state that he expects to be number 1, and that the media (and/or Botta in particular) is prone to creative interpretation to make for a more interesting story, but would be curious what other possible interpretations there could be to that response.
It is a somewhat odd answer, and honestly I’m not sure exactly what he meant. To me it’s just a sign that he was uncomfortable with the line of questions (which is not the same as him assuming he’s going to be #1) but would be curious if anyone has another view.
by SchneiderDiricov on Oct 12, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he meant that he didnt know which people they were talking about,
With all the goalies flying around, it makes sense and it the most logical answer. The idea that it was some sort of slight is a complete stretch… but as we see, people have no problem contorting themselves into any kind of wacky shape to stretch to something like that.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
stop apologizing for the guy
1, they sprung a poorly timed pointless and unfair question at him yes…
2. but his answer was poor, and his face gave away a look of disbelief that such a question would be asked
it was a fair assumption by both him and the reporters to feel he would be the #1, we all thought he would start the season just a week ago didnt we?
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Where the fuck am I "apologizing" for anyone?
He asked a question- who are we talking about- because the team signed 8 goalies last year, dressed 7, and started 6. Holy SHIT do people go out of their way to bitch about this guy or what?
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In fairness
For those who interpret the comment as bob does, it doesn’t matter who in particular were Rick’s competition. Their feeling is that he’s saying there was no reasonable competition to him for the #1 spot. It doesn’t matter who or how many that is, so it’s an odd comment by Rick. And at the very least he had to know it included Montoya, perhaps Nabokov and perhaps Poulin.
Personally, without being there for the tone, I don’t know how he meant it. My gut feels it was an innocent comment taken the wrong way by Strang, but I don’t think it’s fair to call the other interpretation “a complete stretch.”
by Hey Hanrahan on Oct 12, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whenever someone reads into what someone else said and extrapolates wildly on what it "really" meant, that is a stretch.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Totally disagree.
You can infer intent and meaning from tone, body language, circumstances, etc. We all do it everyday with the people we meet or deal with, e-mails we get, etc. It doesn’t make it “extrapolating wildly.” I grant you in this case the intent and meaning isn’t clear (and for the record I don’t think he meant it that way) — I’m just responding to the claim that inferring that he meant “no competition” is a “complete stretch.”
Something I think we CAN agree on: a Ranger fan says that the Rangers will win the cup this year — from that we can reasonably infer that all Ranger fans are idiots!
by Hey Hanrahan on Oct 12, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
tone, body language, circumstances? Nope. None of these people are doing that.
They are basing this on the way a shitty beatwriter presented it.
If they WERE doing that, there is no reasonable way that they are coming to the conclusion that he was being such a horrible douche by asking the chick who she was talking about.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
not true tmc
i never paid attention to what she wrote at all, only to the video of the interview… his incredulous look and and from the hip response are open to interpretation
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Im not a doctor but...
I think the from the hip response you refer to is a natural symptom of “Islander Hip”. Not his fault at all
I take it this way
It’s been months since DiPietro presented his response and people overreacted. We’re now in a new season and the guy is sitting on the bench. Has he complained once about it? No. So let’s stop reading into petty bullshit and move on.
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by Fabtraption on Oct 12, 2011 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Look at how this guy answers this question. He’s probably assuming he has the right answer.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like that face
Its like, okay, i’m lookin kinda down, but wait! whats this? I’m okay….really, I’m okay, thumbs up, see! look. there we are, thumbs up…..
oh know, kinda lookin down again, but wait..!
LOL!
I like that face because he looks like he genuinely thinks about it before he tells you its thumbs-up OK. That brief moment of evaluation does a lot for me.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I can't believe how many times this "news spun" conversation has been brought back.
Has he ever commented later about the same thing talking like he had the starting job on lockdown? Didn’t think so. Some media people will do anything for attention.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
Rags R all about King Henrik: without him, the Rags are not even a playoff team
with or without Brad Rangers 28 goal max and bad corsi this year
by CanadianIsleslifer on Oct 12, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
And at the very least he had to know it included Montoya, perhaps Nabokov and perhaps Poulin.
And perhaps Mikko too. Half of those guys as it turns out are in competition with him right now for starts, and half of them are not.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
But if someone takes his comment as a derisive “who around here is good enough to give me competition”, then it doesn’t matter if some prospects or AHL guys are thrown into the mix for purposes of his response, since they truly are not likely to be competition (for this year). It’s the “real” competition (e.g. Montoya, Nabokov, maybe Poulin) that was the clear intent of Strang’s question. It didn’t matter what combination or if you included the Koskinens, Nilssons, Rosens, etc. That’s why Rick’s comment was odd.
That said, I agree with you that I don’t think he meant it that way, but I do understand where others who feel differently are coming from. That’s all.
by Hey Hanrahan on Oct 12, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
If someone takes that totally nothing comment as "Who is good enough to give me competition????", they are basing that on the fabrications of their own imaginations. The guy keeps saying the direct opposite of that, as are the other goalies on the team who say Ricks been supportive, and he has had that lack of attitude for years. But these conspiracy crazy people think that they can depend on whatever immpression they had of him when he was a healthy teenager taken 1st overall and assume that MUST explain exactly what he is like as a 30yo man whose career is being questioned because of years of injury. Whatever nice or completely normal things Rick actually specifically says must be lies or deceptions, and whatever he says that is vague enough for someone to speculate upon wildly, well- any crazy speculation anyone can possibly come up with must be given automatic credibility as fact and held in far higher regard than his own words.
It really is nuts.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
easy now...
i watched that video about 7 times, trying to find the innocence in his comments, i just didnt see them that way… again, i dont think it was fair he was approached like that at that time…
and you defended him, so ok, maybe not apologizing, but still, i’m in Switzerland on DP personally, i still root for him, but to me it just ‘looked bad’
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I dont find the 'anything' in his comment.
He just asked who she was referring to on a team that had 8 goalies on contracts in that season.
If anyone else- literally, anyone- had given that exact same answer, nobody would even remember it.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
probably true
it just left a bad taste is all…after pulling for the guy year after year to get back to being healthy and producing at his old level, which he wasn’t playing at last year, it came off poorly to me…
but to be fair, that entire exchange would have sat poorly with me had any other of the goalies said something like that… i also hate strang for manipulating that particular scene
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Fair enough
Its not you, its just the way that people went batshit hysterical over this that annoyed me. The media literally gets off on anything negative they can muster about this team… and when there is nothing, they will make a big honking deal out of nothing. We’ve all seen it.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, a week ago I predicted Montoya would start, DP would backup
Only to have Staple’s read talk me out of it!
Here’s the thing though: The Islanders did not try to ride DiPietro last year, either. When the losing streak was at its worst, Gordon stuck with Roloson as his best chance to get out of it. Capuano did his share of mixing before Islanders Face hit.
I’m intrigued, but I wouldn’t be going for OMG Montoya stories until at least 10, 20 games into the season — and even that is plenty of time for him to regress and lose the job.
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Yes you did
And I agree it would be wise to hold back on proclaiming anyone anything… but you just cant tell the media that.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
this week
may be DP’s week, and next week Nabby’s, i dont care who wins out, but i’m a traditionalist, i think the Dmen need a steady #1 as much as anything, no matter how many times they will say it doesn’t matter who plays, it’s nice to not have to play with 3 vastly different types of styles back there (stay at home, haphazard roamer, calculated but risky roamer)
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Agreed
If Montoya can take the ball and run with it and even be Average NHL Starter I will take it, lap it up. That’s an ideal for me. I want decent goaltending and no drama in the crease.
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anyone else curious what
strome would look like on that line instead of rolston?
what JT would look like with KO and NN on his wings?
pointless Q’s i admit, but still…
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I wouldn't mind
seeing KO on the top line, and PAP on the third, but more for Bailey’s sake than anything else. Although it would be interesting to see if KO could mesh there.
Rolston with FN and MG? FnGRo? Scoobie Snacks anyone?
Press Box can only do so much.
I really hope Strome plays one game at least. How much can he learn by watching the game>
by Uncle Zenon on Oct 12, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Strome can learn alot...
being in the box with Scott Allen (I assume). He’ll get a chance for a pop quiz soon, and if he passes a few then maybe we Scott can teach Rolston or Pandolfo a thing or two (kidding). The same goes for Nino. Most likely Strome is going back… there’s a good chance they’ll both go back… But it sure would be nice to see if either one of them could spark this offense.
BTW: real nice… picking on that little (6.4 235) rookie last night in Ottawa
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1 maybe 2 games
but i agree, upstairs is nice to see the development of plays and such, but i think a game or 2 feeler so he knows exactly what it’s like to be out there would help him too… of course a hatty or 4 point night and then everyone claims he belongs right away… which complicates things
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Pop Quiz
If your stick goes anywhere near the opposition while in an Islanders jersey will the ref:
A) Look past it
B) Scold you at the next whistle
C) Give you the penalty
D) Give you the penalty and a game misconduct
E) Morph into the Undertaker and give you a tombstone pile driver.
I’ve always been one of those do-er learners. I’m sure it’s an enlightening experience, but words only do so much. I will say if I hear about him getting the nod in a game, I will definitely buy a ticker.
Re:Zenon. Little guy seemed to do pretty well. And for the record while we share a last name, I do not personally support all of Zenon’s actions (but I will specifically endorse any actions towards the Rangers, Flyers, Penguins or Leafs). I am, by the way, probably the only Islanders fan who owns a Konopka jersey.
(E) Morph into the Undertaker and give you a tombstone pile driver
followed by a Hogan leg drop to finish you off.
by SchneiderDiricov on Oct 12, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Or to clarify...
the ref will tag in a linesman, who will finish you off by “dropping the big leg” ala the Hulkster.
by SchneiderDiricov on Oct 12, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Sadly
I’ve had way too many conversations with friends talking about how awesome it would be if in the middle of a game, a player checks a teammate and scores on his goaltender only to rip off his jersey to reveal that he was now a member of the opposing team. Ah childhood.
by Uncle Zenon on Oct 12, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ah, the vaunted heel turn. That would be awesome in an NHL context.
Betraying one’s teammates, just like Paul Orndorff when he turned on Hogan, or when Rick Martel turned on Tito Santana to become “The Model” and dissolve “The Strike Force”.
by SchneiderDiricov on Oct 12, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't believe there is a rule against that, specifically.
Sounds like something Avery might do might have tried.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 12, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Childhood
That reminds me of the number of times I was “traded” in my basement as a kid, only to come back against my former team with a 4-goal night and a tearful fight against the former linemate who betrayed me.
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Uncle Zenon
Definitely one of my favorite newer handles around here.
Kinda keeps the Konopka “Cousin [X]” meme alive.
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Isles Offense
From the articles on the Isles need for more offense:
“Mike Mottau, Blake Comeau and Josh Bailey are the only players without a registered shot on net.”
I know it’s only two games, and therefore a little early to be questioning the offense (as Dom correctly points out, way too small a sample size to draw definitive conclusions) but am wondering about the logic of keeping two players together (Comeau and Bailey) who both seem to suffer from consistency issues. I know they have clicked in the past, and that putting Rolston with them is supposed to help, but maybe it’s worth breaking them up and giving them some time with other linemates?
I guess the challenge is where to put them, as that implies breaking up either the top line or fNGO, or perhaps putting one of the fourth line, which probably isn’t good for development. Further, they probably tried this a bit in preseason, but maybe it’s not the same impact as making such changes during the regular season?
Again, I know it’s early to jump to judgement, but I feel like we’ve been through this before with JB and BC.
by SchneiderDiricov on Oct 12, 2011 9:43 AM EDT reply actions
Sure feels that way
My only guess is that they don’t want to disrupt the first two lines and wanted to see whether Rolston is a good influence on JB/BC.
I kind of like Ben’s thought of mixing up the bottom six though. And if they force Nino to the top line (I don’t think he’s ready for that) when healthy, that might allow PAP to help Bailey. Even the current setup I’d give more than two games though, even though it feels like deja vu.
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Idea
make the 3rd line Pap/Rolston/BC
1st MM/JT/JB, 2nd FNGO, 4th Martin/Reasoner/Pandolfo
Until niño is ready, this shelters everyone. And we can still roll 4. Whoever stinks worse in this alignment gets demoted to Pandolfo’s spot or bench to make room for Niño.
But I agree, enough with trying to find the right consistency…give em a couple of weeks in a position to succeed and make a decision.
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by Keith Quinn on Oct 12, 2011 12:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Bailey
Its early, but so far those who would trade him for a Kick-Ass D, are looking good. He looks confused and plays like he is in a pick-up game on someone’s pond in Western Canada. Throw in a pik and one of our undersized prospects at the Bridge and we might make up for Snow’s stupid mistake in the Draft a few years ago. We all know the names of the players we could have had.and I thought Snow was perfect!
Its early, but so far those who would trade him for a Kick-Ass D, are looking good.
Except for the GM giving up the Kick-Ass D, of course.
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by Dominik on Oct 12, 2011 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously.
Why would a GM give up “kick ass D” for someone you people are proclaiming to be worthless. whats in it for them?
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re saying that other gms don’t value our players the same as we do? Insanity.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
by Turgeon1992 on Oct 12, 2011 1:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
I think TMC is the most misquoted commenter on LHH.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 12, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, that thing she said last week about hating gingers was totally off-base.
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by Fabtraption on Oct 12, 2011 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No doubt. And I can't believe she advocates kitten genocide
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by Dominik on Oct 12, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You know, I try to keep that kinda low key.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So low key
you’re spreading it across so many different blogs.
HOW DARE YOU WRITE ON HOCKEY BLOGS! DON’T YOU KNOW THERE’S ONLY A TWO-BLOG MAXIMUM!?
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by Fabtraption on Oct 12, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kitten genocide?
Okay, who mentioned the Muller trade?
How many time must we go over and over and over this
I suggested this ....
6 weeks ago, and maybe some fool would have then.
WHAT?
I’ve done this before… guess I’ll do it again…
Filitov… 46GM 14PTS… couldn’t make the Blue Jackets. You take him you probably don’t have Hamonic or Petrov. Possibly ready for the NHL at 22.Wow… what a surprise.
Schenn… with their offense they weren’t taking a defenseman… they didn’t take one with their first pick in the next three, why start there. Schenn is pretty good, but Bailey plus Hamonic and Petrov is WAY BETTER.
Hodgson is probably a little better than Bailey, but he hasn’t been asked to do squat for three years. If Bailey had the same path he’d be coming up this year and probably doing just as well.
Wilson’s last year was equivilent to Bailey year 2. He got the two extra years in the development ranks, and we most likely get Hamonic, but have to pass on Petrov. We’re still winners in that scenario.
Beach, please!
Myers… okay… myers in the 9th spot PLUS Hamonic and Petrov… That might have been better… how can you argue with a Calder winner and the trade down booty… but… that was a gamble. Two teams that have been to the SCF in the years since that draft passed on him as well.
I’d say Snow did a pretty good job, judging him from today. That’s one of the best draft classes in islander history, and will be noted as the one that turned this franchise around.
Bailey is 22. He was picked 9th but in the 2008 draft class he ranks:
GP 4th
G 2nd
A 4th
PT 3rd
In three years:
He started with a rookie coach, with almost no marquee talent on his rookie year team. Sorry Billy and Mike… you guys weren’t selling tickets in 2008. He didn’t really find a consistent linemate, or POSITION until the middle of last year. @22 he’s settled into his role, and they are still auditioning RW’s (or LW’s) for this tandem. He is playing with a RH LW and no real playmaker on the opposite side. Rolston should help that, but he wants the LW and that stunts the availability for Comeau’s shot. They need to work that out.. and these three… or maybe Comeau-Bailey-Martin will figure it out… but before the end of the year, Josh Bailey will impress.
Also… the team has allowed 3 goals in 2 games… give them as much credit for that as you slight them for scoring 2 in two games.
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by JPinVA on Oct 12, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hope you're right...
about turning the franchise around, – but remember we have to at least make the play-offs to claim that.
by altosax on Oct 12, 2011 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That sounds like a HF boards trade proposal
Once promising but now out of grace player plus other spare parts and picks for your top player.
Those thinking Bailey would fetch an established top 4 defenceman live in fantasyland. I wouldn’t expect more than a promising prospect on the verge of the NHL. Nashville has a surplus of those defence prospects and would be a perfect trading partner.
That being said, I wouldn’t trade Bailey right now.
by Francesca on Oct 12, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Totally agree.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Ruh-roh
dchesnokov Dmitry Chesnokov
#Isles Kabanov disappointed with the NHL?: “Everyone [in Russia] kept saying ‘NHL, NHL.’ You get there and will be famous.. As a boy I had an impression [the NHL] was paradise. But when I came here I realized that the made-up image and reality are different things.” (via @IgorEronko)
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
Oh stop with the worries.
Seriously, that article, from what i gathered from a poor Babelfish translation, appears to be Kabanov attempting to make up for his previous comments toward the KHL and Russia in general.
Which is almost certainly more likely to do with him rehabilitating his image to make him allowed to play on future national teams than an interest in the KHL. He’s already signed his ELC here, and says good things about Strome and Tavares in the same article.
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The article in question, if anyone can actually translate it:
http://www.sports.ru/hockey/128461824.html
babelfish is unsurprisingly meh on it.
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Pitchf/x enthusiast.
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Outstanding lines like
“Do not be a” daddy Kabanova, “me do not talk”
<a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fblank">www.sports.ru%2Fhockey%2F128461824.html" target="new">Google Translate version.
There is plenty of happiness with the Isles, including:
"Yes, very happy. Insanely happy, I would say. Because the “Islanders” – a team where the young have a chance."
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Ah, Google Translate
Because I still laugh everytime I read it, I will refer to Robert Figren’s prospect overview from a Swedish site, as converted by Google Translate, which you had posted on LHH some time ago.
“A spectacular player type. Combined MVP and rubs. FIGRA is a skilled skater with good acceleration and top speed. He has excellent game inside, technology, and a really sharp slap shot. Skilled players fit and capable scorer. I work hard both ways, and despite its somewhat modest size, an aggressive player who is relatively successful in the close control.”
by SchneiderDiricov on Oct 12, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes!
I live for things like that. Not too far off form how some of my relatives speak, too.
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Low level prospect
from the Isles system who returned back to Europe earlier this year.
by SchneiderDiricov on Oct 12, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I know one Robin Figren
but this Robert must be some sort of comically mustachioed evil twin.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
LOL!
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
ISLANDERS HOCKEY
COMMITMENT
DEDICATION
WHERE THE YOUNG HAVE A CHANCE
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
I can see the commercial now!
Where are those chains from the Josh Bailey commercials last year?
by SchneiderDiricov on Oct 12, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Or perhaps Solarplex?
Do they still make those? The dude from that commercial was ripped, and I bet he didn’t have the inconsistency problems of Bailey.
by SchneiderDiricov on Oct 12, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Outstanding lines like
"Do not be a" daddy Kabanova, "me do not talk"
alright, first academic alert. Kabanov, Kirill.
I won!
I won!
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Im sure this will get blown into something gigantic.
Kirill is another one the media gets off on trying to dream up or blow up anything resembling scandal.
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by TheMetalChick on Oct 12, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
hes clarifying all this info on his fb page right now
he says that he loves the nhl and that the media is blowing up his entire interview etc, out of context and out of proportion
loving the tears of fallen leaf fans...JT IS OURS
Doin' my best
Here.
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by Dominik on Oct 12, 2011 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Myers OK!!!!!
You could argue Schenn, although the leafs wouldn’t trade him now for Bailey + a #1 Myers is another story, the kid had everything including great size. Our D at the time was worse than it is now – if that’s possible.
Could have been better
But all-in-all I think it was a great draft for the Isles:
Ness and Hamonic 2nd round
Petrov 3rd
Donovan and Ullstrom 4th (WOW!)
Poulin and Martin 5th (again WOW!)
Spurgeon and DiBo 6th
Could easily be 4 or 5 impact NHL players in there. (Already one.) If Isles can draft 2 each of the next 3 years, I will be very happy.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 12, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Most teams are lucky to get 2 full time NHLers in a draft
The Isles already have 3 from that draft. Ness is pretty close to NHL time. Petrov looks like he could make the jump. Donovan is real close. Poulin probably is. Spurgeon is a full time NHLer with another team and DiBo looks to be a good 4th line-energy guy. The only way this draft is better is if one of the players turns in to a perennial all-star (which could still happen). We restocked the pipeline in 1 draft….simply amazing.
No Sleep 'til....Belmont?
Hamonic may not be an All-Star all that much
….but I would be he’ll be one of the top-12 defensive forwards in the league one day (with offensive capability). To me, that’s better than a guy who can put up 50-55 pts each year but is average defensively.
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 12, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I gotta think Hamonic will be an all star 1-day. All he really needs is 1st unit PP time exposure imo and he could rack up the points.
The shutdown defense is obviously gonna be there though.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
I'd say Poulin is most impressive b/c he was drafted in 5th round, Hamonic next
if Poulin’s knees hold up, he has the potential to be an elite NHL goalie. Patrick Roy was right. Hamonic could be to these young Isles what Ken Morrow was to the Dynasty (with more offense), Kevin Lowe to Gretzky’s Oilers and Serge Savard to Lafleur’s Les Canadiens.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Oct 12, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
you just read that wrong...
I was saying, Myers, okay[this scenario would have been better]… myers PLUS Hamonic and Petrov (because they still get them after trading down twice)
Myers is an all-star level defender and he’s 22. I could only imagine a team with very few defensive woes with Myers, Hamonic and Donovan from that draft, and then deHaan (maybe they don’t fall in love with dehaan if they already have Myers). But the draft itself may have been different if they go D first… maybe they pass on Hamonic… and Hamonic is well on his way to becoming my favorite Islander… so.. I, personally, like the way it turned out.
…and… any evaluation of that draft from where all the picks are RIGHT NOW would be insane not to rate it as an A+ for the Isles.
13 picks…6 have played in the NHL 2 years after the draft (I’m including Spurgeon). Ness, Petrov, Donovan and Ullstrom are almost guarenteed to get NHL shots within the next two seasons. These kids are 21-23 years old so this is where they are supposed to be professionally productive, and you have potentially 11 of 13 in the NHL before they are 25 (I include Niemi, but I haven’t really followed his AHL career). So really the only kids who haven’t popped up on te radar are Trivino and Toews… and they might surface with another organization eventually. THAT is a tremendous draft class.
To put it into a different perspective, if you just got Bailey, Hamonic and Petrov it would have been considered a pretty good haul for a 6 pick draft class.
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
by JPinVA on Oct 12, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Thrusday's game
I am visiting my folks in Dumont NJ and would like to catch the game against the Lighting. I am transportation challenged so I am checking to see if anyone is heading that way from the area. I could bus it into the city if that makes a meetup easier. thx
BTW
I’m having the problem you mentioned the other day with the comments not loading. Looks like one of the javascripts isn’t loading properly (tiqiq widget), causing the page to just hang.
Usually when this happens I can manually stop the page from loading and the comments update fine, but today it’s just done broke.
Are you on Firefox?
The problem has stopped for me — though I was trying that workaround you mention the other day.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
No trouble on IE
which is somewhat of a surprise
by SchneiderDiricov on Oct 12, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Haven't had trouble with Chrome
Of course right now I’m not having the trouble with Firefox, either.
I’ll send a support ticket, but FYI to anyone who has issues (even if it’s with bad ads or anything), send it to support@sbnation with description as well as OS and browser. They’re constantly on the lookout for issues across all browsers, so support tickets help them understand what are the biggest issues at any moment.
Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.
Martin Quote Towards the End of the Behind the Scenes video with Stacey Sweet
“If we win the Stanley Cup, I’ll do whatever you (Stacey Sweet) want me to do.”
Wow……it probably wouldn’t take winning the Stanley Cup for me to do whatever she wanted me to do, but love the quote nevertheless.
by JPinNYC on Oct 12, 2011 2:32 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
It starts...
StapeNewsday Arthur Staple
DiPietro takes shot off mask, leaves #Isles practice early. mobile.newsday.com/inf/infomo;JSE…
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
Website:Lighthouse HockeyTwitter: @KeithLHHockey
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NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
Website:Lighthouse HockeyTwitter: @KeithLHHockey
I was gonna say, "You're making this up."
Hope you’re okay, Rick!
by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 12, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought this was kidding also
Having had the problems with the broken face before, does this make one more susceptible to another facial injury? Or are the odds reasonable the same that this could hurt just about any goaltender?
From what I have heard, breaking something makes it more fragile and susceptible to injury.
Not sure if a shot to his mask could break his orbital/cheek bone, but who knows. Doesn’t sound like it was much according to the article. Could be a concussion, could of just been shooken up, who knows.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
I doubt it is a fracture problem
probably a concussion issue…but facial injuries are not exacerbated by previous injury, they are exacerbated by being an Islander.
NY Islanders, just one irrational free agent signing away from contention!
Website:Lighthouse HockeyTwitter: @KeithLHHockey
Oh boy. And Rolston of all people. Hope he didn't light DP up with a slapper.
Get better quick DP.
What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?
If there's one good thing we can cull from this news
Rolston’s got a hell of a shot and will probably do wonders for our PP1.
Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.
by Fabtraption on Oct 12, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
For once...
Rick is making it EASIER on a coach… Cappy can roll out of bed tomorrow knowing that Nabakov can get a shot against the non-division rival Lightning, and El Cubano gets a chance to be a hero at home against the team that drafted him. All with Ricky in the press box unable to complain to Charles about not starting, because he has Islander face.
Hope you’re okay Rick… maybe instead of the owner’s booth you can watch the game with Howie and Butchie. It will be good practice for when you retire.
Who cares... John Tavares is here until 2017-18!!!
Caption Victory:
News from CERN: Scientists now believe that, like black holes, Frans Nielsen’s mere presence curves space-time. Approach with caution.
UPDATE: A Belgian Scientist that initially refuted this theory has been found warped and dismembered with a note saying, “Here’s if you proof, Doctor, FN,” pinned to his jacket.
by Les Beaver on Oct 12, 2011 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This is great
Lighthouse Hockey:
Where Islanders Hockey meets Theoretical Physics
by Isles2011 on Oct 12, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don't remember if it has already been linked
The Leafs Nation talked with Elliotte Friedman about advanced stats. There’s also some Frans Nielsen love.
To get back to Nielsen – last year, there were a few people, and Islanders fans saying, "look at him." I think you’re silly if you don’t listen, and people were constructing some reasonably good arguments, so I watched a few more games in depth, and he looks like he could be a really good player.

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