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Islanders Gameday: Here come(s?) the Speedy Wild(s?)

Let's try this again, shall we? The Islanders players collectively know they screwed up Saturday night's home opener, and they have a chance to atone this afternoon in front of the annual Columbus Day crowd of kids, who will cheer at a slightly higher frequency should the Isles choose to give them something to go all Bieber about.

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Minnesota Wild (1-0-0) @ New York Islanders (0-1-0)
1 p.m. EDT | MSG+ | WRHU
Nassau [gloriously unsponsored] Veterans Memorial Coliseum
Clusterbuck Aperans Society: Hockey Wilderness

Visiting are the (is the? Doggone indoor soccer names) Wild, who no doubt feel good about their summer after newcomers Devin Setoguchi and Dan(n)y Heatley each scored in their victorious debut over the Blue Jackets, their brothers from the last NHL expansion just a Rick DiPietro career ago. That was needed elixir for the Wild fan, who must talk himself into rooting for Dan(n)y until his next trade request.

Star-divide

This matinee represents the rare chance for our European and Europe-based buddies to watch the game at a humane hour, so hopefully you guys can enjoy it and then give us a good run-down before the North Americans leave work.

Today the Wild will have to handle things without right wing Pierre-Marc Bouchard, who was suspended for having too many names -- and which drew "kangaroo court" derision from his vocal agent, Allan Walsh.

[**UPDATE: Bouchard has filed an appeal, hearing scheduled at 11 a.m.]

Regardless of the uncertainty around Bouchard's action -- his side called it an accident, but it was his stick -- Walsh's over-the-top vitriol is both predictable from him and also a little unsettling. Just when the league is taking disciplinary action far more seriously than it ever has, Walsh calls the entire process "a farce" and uses the "he's not that kind of player" excuse. But ... well, there's a reason you take what most loud agents say with a grain of salt: While there are some fantastic ones -- usually, the ones you don't hear about -- they are the used car salesmen of the NHL. Their hockey interests frequently clash with those of everyone but themselves and their richest clients.

(Aww, I mean no offense: I have friends who are agents, I mean used car salesmen.)

Anyway, with Bouchard out expect to see tough guy Matt Kassian in. New Wild coach Mike Yeo (fan scapegoat for powerplay woes in Pittsburgh once upon a time) has them focused on playing fast, and that also means going top line vs. top line. With the Islanders at home though, Jack Capuano will surely want Frans Nielsen against that line with Mikko Koivu and the two ex-Shark wingers. Yeo was happy with those wingers' backcheck, but that wouldn't be the first time offense-first forwards started the season by trying harder to impress the coach at both ends.

Expect no lineup changes for the Islanders as Jack Capuano gives them a mulligan and Milan Jurcina might have even had a setback with his groin injury. Presumably, hopefully, dear-god-they-better-fully, that means an actual goal is scored this time.

For commenters looking to make your FIG pick for who scores that goal, go to this thread (and read the directions linked there if you haven't already).

 

Islanders Links

Further reaction to Saturday night's game: Hornick with the stat "Skinny," including the other times the Islanders have been shut out in a home opener |  NYIFYI's recap, and a teaser for their podcast | Eyes on Isles with a plus/minus recap, and some observations on how Kyle Okposo hitting the post stings even worse when you're blind | 7th Woman with some fan interviews -- JP wasn't the only guy to trudge up from VA.

 

Haley-Hollweg Fight

If you didn't see it but are into such things, Micheal Haley fought Ryan "Tool" Hollweg in a doozie the other night, posted by Islesenforcers:


Columbus Day / Kids Day History

The Islanders beat the Wild 4-1 last season, in the game where Cal Clusterbuck boarded Justin DiBenedetto from behind and Trevor Gillies responded by immediately crushing Cal into the boards with his arm riding dangerously high on the follow-through. Gillies got the "burn the witch" treatment, and our own mikb turned to Jane Austen to explain the reaction.

(I am in full support of the Shanaban campaign to eliminate careless or intentional headshots. But I do find it funny that this year under stricter rules people are shocked by the severity of six- and eight-game bans, while last year ... nine and 10 games was not enough for Gillies. Last season the NHL caste system was alive and well; we'll see how Shanny handles stars vs. symbolic scapegoats.)

Last year in this Columbus Day/Kids Day game, the Islanders notched a 6*-4 win (*EN) over the Rangers in a wild game with riveting 3rd-period comeback. That was a rarity: Since the lockout, the Islanders have gone 1-4-0 in this game, with a 2-1 loss to the Kings in 2009, a 7-1 drubbing at the hands of the Sabres in 2008, a 2-1 loss to the Caps in 2007, and a 3-1 loss to Florida in 2005. (They began 2006-07 on a West Coast swing.)

Here's to history leveling itself out.

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The tenor of the telecast on Saturday bothered me

All the players saying, “we’re not young anymore, playoffs or failure” and Cappy harping on the serious, performance-based lineups and atmosphere kind of bothered me and bothered me more after watching taht game.

I think that kind of attitude is great but I also think it could take the young guns a couple of weeks to settle down and just play hockey without pressing. More unlikely is instead of calming down they start to panic and that would be really bad. That odds are against that, but it still makes me nervous.
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Also I’m officially referring to Mike Mottau as “The turnstyle” for the rest of the season. As in, “Things started to go against the Isles when the turnstyle took another hooking penalty and on the ensuing power play…..”

I think that works well.

"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington

by Pauly C on Oct 10, 2011 6:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I was thinking Pylon for Mottau

Maybe Traffic Cone.

At worst 2009 Brendan Witt.

<--waits for a COZO to start and then knows he has 30 seconds to run and grab another beer

by Chris McNally on Oct 10, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

He doesnt play anything like Brendan Witt

Not from what Ive ever seen, anyway.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 10, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Even 2009 Brendan Witt!

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 10, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cant skate backwards faster than a sloth in a race

and watches every forward skate right past him? Thats exactly how Brendan Witt was in 2009. Unfortunately because I’m recording all of the scoring chances in Islanders games I had to watch that happen to Mottau 3 times during Saturdaus game on my DVR, over and over again

<--waits for a COZO to start and then knows he has 30 seconds to run and grab another beer

by Chris McNally on Oct 10, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least Witt hit people

and, on one occasion, got hit. By a car. And played that night.

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by Pretty Good Idiot on Oct 10, 2011 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

2001 Brendan Witt

wouldve avoided that hit and then dropped the gloves and beat the crap out of that SUV

<--waits for a COZO to start and then knows he has 30 seconds to run and grab another beer

by Chris McNally on Oct 10, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Witt wasnt the best defensemen

But he was one bad ass motherf*****

"Mario Lemiuex… I used to respect you."- Turgeon1992

by Zhora on Oct 10, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

those are good

I like turnstyle better b/c it has some moving parts but ultimately just gets passed by.

"It don't make you a bad person" - Ron Bennington

by Pauly C on Oct 10, 2011 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Pylon will always mean one player for me:

Richie “Pylon” Pilon, one of my favorites. All heart, all grit, no wheels. Loved his effort, wished his feet were just a little less made of lead.

by Lawbot13 on Oct 10, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Only man I ever saw Brett Hull turn into a turnstile 1-on-1

But I loved Pilon anyway.

Hull was hilariously inept 1-on-1. Until he faced Pilon, for some reason.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brock my world

This kid is really looking special. Nice to see him filling out that tall frame, and rounding out his game. Read some one wrote, ( maybe Mark-Bard), he may be the best of post Tavares, Islander 1st round picks. Top six spots may get crowded.

Thou shalt not recognize false enemies, they are the Rangers, you shall have no other enemies before them.
AND "Thank you Dale Tallon"

by since70too on Oct 10, 2011 7:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Just re-read the Prosect Park link

Guess Mark didn’t make the “best 1st round pick” statement.

Thou shalt not recognize false enemies, they are the Rangers, you shall have no other enemies before them.
AND "Thank you Dale Tallon"

by since70too on Oct 10, 2011 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like 'em too

I am excited as well to see big ole’ Brock down the road. Looks like Garth may have had a step on the other GM’s in trading up to get this kid

by jrams16 on Oct 10, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

and its cool

that nelson has a teammate named ben blood

by ripcurl2121 on Oct 10, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I normally wouldn't ...

go out of my way to watch a fight in an AHL game but I really like Haley and just saw the his row with that slime Hollweg. Jeez, that was a serious brawl, but it looked to me like Haley took a cheap right to the jaw after the linesman stepped in and went down like a ton of bricks. Anyone know what the damage was ?

by dose on Oct 10, 2011 8:25 AM EDT reply actions  

it

was a cheapshot for sure by the slime hollweg after getting his ass kicked.

 haley is fine, he was pulled down by the refs/bodies not the suckerpunch. that fight was game1. haley played yesterday (game 2) and had 5 shots on goal and played great

by ripcurl2121 on Oct 10, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

No lineup change

Is Montoya getting the start again today? I thought DP might be getting the nod

Take em to the jabrone-zone

by IslesJabronie on Oct 10, 2011 8:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Montoya didn't look too bad. No reason not to start him again.

And on opening night, when they booed BP, I didn’t like that. I’m not a huge fan DP fan, but that was classless and annoyed me. Say what you want about him, the guy loves the fans. I wouldn’t mind if he played today. If he did well, fans come back, ego boost, happily ever after.

by Les Beaver on Oct 10, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Booing got to me too

Pretty sure DP was the only player to go down the line high-fiving not only with the team, but also the NYPD/FDNY guys on the ice to roll out the flag. Overall, thought it was a classy move.

by NYIPHL on Oct 10, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

DP is always classy

-Except when he is in net. But, he is always the one to give high fives to the fans or stick up for the organization and its fans. After every game he was the first star last year he would ALWAYS thank the fans wholeheartedly. He is definitely a classy player.

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by pippup on Oct 10, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yep and also stuck up for the islanders over the years when we stunk

He’s always been proud to be a NYI.

That was lame.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was watching the game w/o sound at a restaurant...

so I didn’t realize DP was booed but that pisses me off as well. He has been through hell with injuries and he is a guy that you can definitely tell wants so badly to be liked by the fans. He also has a huge ego so I’m sure getting booed at home was a blow to him as well. I hope he does the most with his opportunity when he gets it.

Take em to the jabrone-zone

by IslesJabronie on Oct 10, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

It almost seemed like the booing stopped as sson as it started like people next to the people who were booing were telling them to stop it.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think youre right on that

Plus some of the people audibly disapproved of the booing- which probably added to the negative overall sound even though it was grumbling against the booing.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 10, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thought exerscise

How do we boo booers? More booing doesn’t get it done. Perhaps loud retching and a thwap across the nose?

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Boxing ears?

Do they still box ears?

Thou shalt not recognize false enemies, they are the Rangers, you shall have no other enemies before them.
AND "Thank you Dale Tallon"

by since70too on Oct 10, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

There is no way for me to rec this enough!

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 10, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

deipietro

has to stop acting like a pompous a-hole and he’s entitled to everything, and that his shit dont stink.

that, and the fact that he’s an albatross around the teams neck with his contract and crappy goaltending is why he gets booed.

by ripcurl2121 on Oct 10, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

how is his contract his fault?

Put yourself in his position and you would’ve signed the same one. If you’ve read anything from this preseason you’ll see he’s been anything but pompous, he was very complimentary of Montoya and understood the level of competition and why he didn’t get the start before game 1.

There’s an understandable amount of frustration with DP because of his injury history but he’s always fought hard and been a proud representative of this franchise. Even as the backup at game 1 I saw him waving at fans, tossing pucks to kids, and as mentioned above shaking hands with all the FDNY/NYPD hockey players. He might not always be the player you want on the ice but he’s been the definition of class and that alone for me is reason enough not to boo him.

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by ArsenalLI on Oct 10, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Montoya, but

sort of want to see one of the other two today. I thought Montoya looked good overall, but not great.

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 10, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

i want dp to start

No matter what he goes through he wholeheartedly loves this franchise and for him to go through the off-season without injury was amazing and he looked really good in the preseason

loving the tears of fallen leaf fans...JT IS OURS

by DarthDoyle on Oct 10, 2011 10:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Cinderella story waiting to happen

I’ll always be rooting for the guy, but I’m just nervous of failure. We’ll see eventually how it’ll all pan out though.

by Empire39 on Oct 10, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

But...

I was hoping to see DP on Saturday and the Nabby today. Despite the grumblings about both goalies, DP was given that lengthy contract and should have been earmarked to get the nod the other night. Nabakov may prove to be the sleeper and should be given a fair opportunity to snatch the starting role.

by jrams16 on Oct 10, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Starter not announced yet

(Sorry, I meant the rest of the lineup. Goalies get their own special wing.)

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Montoya starts

Officially: Same lineup as Saturday.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just a theory

Maybe DiPietro starts the road games?

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by Pretty Good Idiot on Oct 10, 2011 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man, that'd be sad

if it came to that. I mean, it’s interesting just within LHH commenters how many DiPietro critics (including myself) are sympathizing with him for that treatment.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe Captain Jack thinks they're be less pressure on him that way

Bear in mind that I’m completely pulling this out of my ass. But we’ve seen teams play solid road games under the KISS plan. And if he gets on a roll and plays well, I think even Rick will take it.

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by Pretty Good Idiot on Oct 10, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm dissapointed there was no goalie change

I’d like some sort of resolution on this matter as soon as possible. It’ll only be two games obviously and I’m sure they have their reasons, but I just want to see all of them play so I can come to my own conclusion. Totally selfish of me, haha!

by Empire39 on Oct 10, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

Cappy is going with the guy who is playing the best (so he said). So, there is one starter who will get his occasional rest (second leg of back-to-back) until he plays himself out of the starting role. They’ve decided Montoya is that guy. Better they stay steady than start the carousel, IMO.

Success was survival and, kid, it still is

by IslesFanInNJ on Oct 10, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't this

more of a resolution than if someone else played? Montoya is clearly the #1 goalie for now. The other two are battling for the backup role.

by afrosupreme on Oct 10, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it would be a mistake to presume that anyone is a clear anyhting after 2 games.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 10, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

:( I want to see how Nabby does for you guys.

GO SHARKS!
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by Angy on Oct 10, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

He probably wont play till we hit the road

To avoid the derision of the fans

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by Zhora on Oct 10, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guess I should ask when you hit the road then huh?

GO SHARKS!
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by Angy on Oct 10, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like this

If we’re going with the “hot hand”, Montoya with the .931 with 1 goal coming on a very screened 5 on 3 is still your man. As long as Al is playing well, I don’t care where DP starts, as long as it’s only 25-35% of the time.

Also, if Al is playing that well, I don’t give a crap what happens with Nabby.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 10, 2011 11:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Nabby Trade

Any teams out there looking like the may potentially become desperate for a goalie?

Take em to the jabrone-zone

by IslesJabronie on Oct 10, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not one that has not played.

Who wants a goalie who has not played steady/well in years (Rick/Nabokov)? I know its early but if we keep playing Al, I might start to think HE could be the one the Isles trade.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 10, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

huh?

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huh what?

Not sure what youre confused by.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 10, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

That they're playing Al to trade him?

I think they’re playing him because he’s the best goalie in their opinion, not to trade him.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

They are not going to keep 3 goalies up here all season

Someone is going to be traded. Not sent to BPT (where tere are already 3 goalies) but traded. Somewhere else. A trade will take place if Garth is getting something of value for a player. To exclude Al from the list of tradeable goalies makes no sense.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 10, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Possible it ends up like that, but

…that means Isles think Montoya is virtually as good right now as either Rick or Nabokov because:

(a) Isles don’t risk playing an inferior goalie in order to trade him at the risk of points in the standings for playoffs.

(b) I forget what my second point was, but it was a good one.

If Isles are confident with Rick and Nabokov (and either Poulin or Nilsson stepping in, if needed), trading Montoya may make sense because of his young age. Chances are next year either Poulin or Nilsson will be ready for an NHL role. Perhaps both.

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 10, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Montoya

plays well enough to be worth something on the trade market, it would be dumb to trade him then, no?

by afrosupreme on Oct 10, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not if they have faith in the other two, plus one of the young guys.

But it is risky if Montoya is playing well for Isles. They better get something good in return! (May be worth it for a defenseman.)

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 10, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

They can't

have faith in the other two. That would be a monumental error.

I don’t want to see any faith-based initiatives from our front office!

by afrosupreme on Oct 10, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are forgetting the logjam in Bridgeport.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 10, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not counting

Mikko as part of any logjam anymore. They need to find another home for him at a lower level for now.

by afrosupreme on Oct 10, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

If there were fewer goalies at this level and Poulin was up here, Mikko would be right where he belongs.

My entire point is that the Isles are not going to keep ALL of these goalies. They just arent.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 10, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

but I think we’ll see the three that are up now with the team for a while. I don’t think they are just going to give up Nabakov for a song. And I don’t think it’s actually much of an issue as long as Montoya keeps playing well.

Bridgeport is a different deal. Those guys need reps to develop, and I think that is where the change will come with someone being moved one way or another. I don’t think any of them see NHL time unless there are a slew of injuries again.

by afrosupreme on Oct 10, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOOO!!!

GO SHARKS!
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by Angy on Oct 10, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!

I’m not even anti-Nabby at this point…I’m just pro “resolution” with the goaltending circus over here.

It’s also really the first time DP has been given (however minor at this point) a back seat when healthy. So, psychologically, to me, it communicates that they will field the most competitive team they can.

Other teams that need goalies…not sure really. There are plenty out there that have some problems, but I don’t think we’ll get much back even if he was standing on his head. The market is just ugly…except for the Capitals apparently.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 10, 2011 11:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I’m not even anti-Nabby at this point…I’m just pro "resolution" with the goaltending circus over here.

Okay, I’ll accept that and remove my boooo … :)

GO SHARKS!
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by Angy on Oct 10, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Boos"

Hit harder than fists.

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 10, 2011 11:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Figured it was just another "Boo-urns"

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by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

the first time DP has been given (however minor at this point) a back seat when healthy

If he is healthy. Sure he seems it, but I won’t believe it until he shows he can play regularly. And the Isles are generally not very forthcoming with his status.

by afrosupreme on Oct 10, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not against Montoya starting again, but why did we give him the 2 of the 5 easiest games to start the season?

Unless Cap thinks DP is ahead of him? Or he wants to ride Montoya? All I know is, why carry 3 goalies if we are gonna run one of them in back to back games? Just get rid of Nabokov then. Waive him, trade him, whatever. Tampa Bay and the Smurfs are tougher to beat then the Panthers and Wild and have better offenses then the wild and cats, I hope Cap knows what he’s doing here because I am a bit confused with the decision making, unless he is riding Montoya.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 10, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no easy way to sort this situation out

For every, “why aren’t we rotating?” plea there will be a “why don’t you let a guy get a groove?” plea. I wouldn’t read much into it yet.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, too early to find a pattern.

It’s just that if Montoya was the best goalie in camp, I’m fine with him starting the opener, but why waste him on the Wild when you have the Lightning and Smurfs coming up right after them the same week? Who would you rather your top goalie playing against, 2 of the better offenses in the NHL on 2 of the better teams, or 2 of the worse offenses on 2 of the worse teams? It should have been obvious from the get go that Cappy should have played the best against the Lightning/Smurfs and the worse against the Wild/Panthers. But whatever, everything should play itself out and should be ok, unless the smurf/lightning games’ are as disastrous as the panther game.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 10, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's plenty of rest time between games

Lightning are on Thursday, so 2 full days of rest, and the Rags game is on Saturday.

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by ArsenalLI on Oct 10, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Getting back into the NHL grind could give him a hiccup though.

Also playing “4gms” in 1 week could be hard on him. I really am expecting to see DP/Nab in one of the games. I don’t think Cap wants to ride Monty that hard yet, but who knows. I really am not sure how Cappy is gonna use the goalies right now.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 10, 2011 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Statistically, though, it may be problematic

If the goal is to get as many points as possible to make the playoffs and playing the best goalie gives Isles the best chance to get points against “lesser” teams, perhaps playing the best goalie against the weaker team and the 2nd best goalie against the stronger team gives Isles better chance at points than the other way around.

Teams generally play their better goalie against better teams, but for a middle-of-the-pack team, does that give them a statistical advantage to gain points rather than the other way around?

Also, it is tough to tell which are the better teams this early in the season.

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 10, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know what you're saying, but let me ask you this:

1-Do you think Monty is durable enough to start 55-60gms/yr at a high level(say average+ goaltening/.915+)? Durability and upkeeping his good play is a real concern, especially given his track record in the ahl.

2- Do you believe DP/Nab will get better sharing a net in practice and playing once every 6/7gms or playing more often? That can hurt us their backup wise, especially if they look far out of game shape given the practice time dilemma. That could cost us some points.

3-What do you believe our chances of making the playoffs this year are? If you think they are great, then we should ride monty as much as possible. 50/50, then the goalie situation should be a coinflip as well. Anything worse and we honestly should find out what we have in DP for the best of the team’s future instead of next year. Playing DP in 20-30gms this year does nothing to show us what he’s got for the future. It’s still a big question mark of what he’s capable of, then we have to deal with his cap hit as a backup for the rest of his career(hurting us when we are a cap ceiling team), and/or have to carry over the DP question marks/debacle for another year at minimum. I want DP to be tested, not given backup duty, which he should be able to pass smoothly. He can hurt us more in the future if we try and start him more next year then hurting us now. We aren’t winning a cup this year, so I don’t see the reason not to give DP 40starts this year besides possibly costing us the playoffs and getting us a better draft pick. But I don’t know, that could also cost cappy his job in a year or so. So………….

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 10, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Couple thoughts

1) Perhaps Cappy really does think Montoya is the best goalie for this particular game and is not too concerned beyond that.
2) Perhaps Isles are keeping Nabokov around (a) to try to trade him, or (b) incase of an injury to Rick or Montoya.

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 10, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think 2 is definitely a possibility, but why waste a roster spot like that?

It could be brilliant if one of them gets hurt in the first 6/8gms, but it looks kind of stupid if no one gets hurt till the end of November.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 10, 2011 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Goal Song is Crowd Chant

I posted the news in a fanshot, but in case anyone isn’t checking over there, the Islanders have reported that Crowd Chant was voted to be the goal song by a vast majority. Note: I was not in that majority.

All Who Oppose Grabner Shall Perish.

by pippup on Oct 10, 2011 9:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Im disappointed by that

I thought I heard them play it during one of the stoppages in play on Saturday night. I was hoping that meant it hadnt won.

<--waits for a COZO to start and then knows he has 30 seconds to run and grab another beer

by Chris McNally on Oct 10, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm blah on that one

It’s just as clichéd as Rock and Roll, pt 2. But whatever. If they score some goals, I’ll get used to it.

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by Pretty Good Idiot on Oct 10, 2011 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didnt vote for it either

But I am fine with using a song by a guy who is from Nassau County, LI, NY.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 10, 2011 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'd love to see him get in a game before being sent back to juniors

and considering the opponents for the two upcoming games following today’s, it might make most sense to get him in today…if they plan on playing him at all.

by Empire39 on Oct 10, 2011 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who to scratch?

Pandolfo is the only one that I can see them maybe scratching for Strome but the 4th line of Pandolfo-Reasoner-Martin played real well on Saturday (especially Martin). Cappy might want to keep them together for a few more games.

Take em to the jabrone-zone

by IslesJabronie on Oct 10, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I totally understand your point

I don’t think there’s anybody you can scratch right now, because nobody’s really worthy of a scratch after one game. It’s just that I would love to see him play with some nhl level talent around him, unlike most of the preseason.

by Empire39 on Oct 10, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

"played real well"

is a stretch from what i saw.

i noticed martin alot but the other 2? not so much. pandolfo is useless and should be nowhere near this team.

by ripcurl2121 on Oct 10, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, Capuano liked that line from what he saw

Martin was noticeable because of hits and shots, but there are a lot of things that can happen with a line that might not be seen. Reasoner did well.

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by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Staple says same lineup as last game.

Sooo, no.

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by garik16 on Oct 10, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps they are keeping him up for a potential injury in the next few games.

Might have made more sense to have him after Juniors lets out at the end of the year, though. Better chance of two or three injuries that time of year. Can Isles still do that if he doesn’t actually play in games now, or do these scratch games count against his 9?

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 10, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

do these scratch games count against his 9?

Nope. They might want him to practice a bit more, or they are just giving him a nice legal ‘bomu$’ for a good camp by keeping him up for a bit.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 10, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. Nino and Gillies are both scratches, why keep Strome up if you aren't playing Strome in Nino's "hurt" spot while he's gone.

I don’t see Strome getting any ice time this year unless one of our centers/RW’s suckk horribly in a game.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 10, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Him missing

a handful of CHL games isn’t going to affect his development at all.

Letting him see what the NHL is like, talking/working with our coaches, watching games with them in the pressbox, all are potentially far more valuable for him long term.

by afrosupreme on Oct 10, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

But for how long? I'm fine with him watching a couple games, but it seems obvious that we aren't starting him unless we have some catastrophic injury(for now).

How many games does the kid need to watch and hang with the team for? 2-3 is enough imo, especially if we are going to either be trying out or inputting nino within the next couple of weeks into our top 9.

Also, you say Strome misses a handful of games like it’s nothing. So far, he’s missed 7gms of the season, or more then 1/10th of the season. Remember keeping Nino away cost him some “getting used to” games in the WHL, possibly hurting his development and obviously hurting his stats. We keep this going on and and we could have strome missing “theoretically” 1/4 of the season of developmental time he could have used. People bitch about Bailey not getting his extra development time, so do we really wanna play with that possibly becoming an issue with Strome?

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 10, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just think the development he’s getting with the team is enough to offset that. And I don’t think he’s going to be around much longer. Technically he could only be here another 3 weeks, or he’s here for good.

Also, I’m not worried about his WHL stats.

by afrosupreme on Oct 11, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dear Pierre-Marc

You hit a guy in the face with your stick just after a face-off. Accident or not, that means the blade was near the dude’s face when it really wasn’t necessary. It was a boneheaded move. Just sit the two games.

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by Pretty Good Idiot on Oct 10, 2011 10:26 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

He Briere'd him.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 10, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sort of

Briere’s was much more vicious if you watch the youtube of each. He can’t try the excuse, “I was just trying to slash his hands.” Briere was clearly going for the shoulder/neck/head area.

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 10, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the Road

Hope this is a better game than Saturday.

For those at the game enjoy. I will watch by DVR later tonight.

I have to to squeeze in my FIG now and I know this ain’t the place.

Nielsen (Okposo, Streit) 23:13

Isles need to stave off Wild early rush. If they do they win 3 – 2 and if they don’t 3 – 1.

by TheMagus on Oct 10, 2011 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

The place is linked up top

Thou shalt not recognize false enemies, they are the Rangers, you shall have no other enemies before them.
AND "Thank you Dale Tallon"

by since70too on Oct 10, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Islanders vs. Wild

but Mikko Koivu is on my fantasy team.

I’M SO CONFLICTED!

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Oct 10, 2011 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Well...

I like winning stuff. So I’m going to hope he scores a goal or two but the Islanders still win.

Official choice of Lighthouse Dog #1.

by Fabtraption on Oct 10, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we could get the Wild to bench him

That’d be win-win, really.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

You're making the case for why fantasy sports are bad here.

Let’s get it straight, I don’t think they are – but unless you’ve got an outrageous amount of money on the line, real sports take priority over fantasy.

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by garik16 on Oct 10, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

There's also a case of why fantasy sports are good

All of my real teams lost this weekend: Terps, Islanders & Jets (okay the Phillies and Yankees lost, so thats good), but both my fantasy football teams won (or are guaranteed victory)

It makes it a PUSH overall.

I'm a mets, jets, islander, and terps fan. Also known as a glutton for perennial punishment.

by longbeach on Oct 10, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like Syracuse, Notre Dame and the Vikings

They all won.

Both my FF teams look like they will win, but my Isles lost.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fantasy sports are a leading cause of our society's decay

Well, not really, but it does annoy me when my friend randomly shouts out during highlights of a game he doesn’t care about simply because some third-line wing got an assist.

It’s a boy who cried wolf issue.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s not be bitter cause you suck at fantasy hockey.

(so do I but that’s not the point)

GO SHARKS!
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by Angy on Oct 10, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no problem and like fantasy sports

Unless you cheer against your own team because of it. that’s lame.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who would ever cheer against their own team?

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by Angy on Oct 10, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you kidding me?

Have you ever read my posts? ;o)

hell no is my answer.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone with a gambling problem

who bet the Over 6 in a 3-2 game his team is leading with 40 seconds left?

mocking opposing announcers and their horrible commentary since '89

by Chris McNally on Oct 10, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, I don't play -- I can take or leave it, but it's too much time for me

When a buddy cheers repeatedly for other games (but not for the actual outcomes of those games), I get numb to it.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I’m still surprised I play actually. 3 teams even. I told my boys I wouldn’t this year and still I end up on 3 teams. But I only spend Sundays setting them up. I’m too busy to spend every day doing that. Probably why I suck. Oh well. :)

GO SHARKS!
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by Angy on Oct 10, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It took me a while to finally quit and say "no" regularly

Too easy to get sucked in, but then I wouldn’t give it the time it “deserves.” Don’t want to be that crappy manager who neglects his team until random matchups.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Almost half of my team plays in this game

I have Heatley, Setoguchi, Zidlicky, Tavares, Moulson, and Hamonic, plus Nielsen, Montoya, and Rick on my bench. (Weekly changes.)

Hope it’s a high-scoring Isles win with power play goals.

But Isles come first, fantasy 2nd, real players’ feelings 3rd.

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 10, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Day Game?

Hell yeah! Didn’t realize that.

Now it'll be worth staying home with the kids today.

by afrosupreme on Oct 10, 2011 11:00 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Al Montoya to start today in net according to Staple.

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by garik16 on Oct 10, 2011 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

According to Capuano, too

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

First line of Hockey Wilderness' thread about today's game
Ok, we’ve given our view on the over the top suspension to Pierre-Marc Bouchard. Let’s move on to today’s game with the lowly Islanders.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

I took it so serious

Because they win stuff all the time, ya’ know?

The Minnesota Wild, and all their history and success the last decade. Nothing like it ever, in hockey history. They’re greater than the Miracle on Ice team they’re so good.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes but they have Heatley & Setoguchi now – and that to them makes the world of difference. :)

GO SHARKS!
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by Angy on Oct 10, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

But they traded Burns and Havlat

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, they seemed to think they were on the better end of that deal from what I recall.

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by Angy on Oct 10, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

that deal always comes off as very Milbury-esque

Except they did somehow get 2 first round picks from the Sharks as well.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get this part:
“What I don’t like is Garth Snow and the way he has destroyed a once proud franchise.”

When did that happen? Clearly this guy missed the previous ten years when Milbury was busy resurrecting a once proud franchise? And then in comes Garth destroying all that Milbury had done. Bastard. Trade Nilsson? O’Mara? NO WONDER WE CAN’T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS! JOSH BAILEY?!?!?!?!

by Les Beaver on Oct 10, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, he comes off as totally ignorant, which is sad

because i am a huge Vike’s fan who has many friends from Minny, and they could write better than that clown.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

"What I don’t like is Garth Snow and the way he has destroyed a once proud franchise."

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Way to have absolutely no idea what youre talking about. These people have to be kidding. I mean, I can defintiely understand people who make a case that Snow has not solved the Isles problems- but that he CAUSED them? What kind of dope actually believes that?

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 10, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now he said the article was sarcasm..

Dude, chill Seriously, it’s called sarcasm. Wow

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Riggghhhhhtttttttttt...

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I read 3 or 4 sb nation blogs

And post at here and the daily Norseman, and i had no clue writers like him existed at SB.

That guy is ridiculous. It makes me apprecitate our writers a lot more.

New Rule. When owned completely by some stoner from the redneck riviera, just type………

 dude, chill, it was all sarcasm.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only 3 or 4? Go explore!! There are 30 hockey teams, go read the all. Some are quite good, some, ah whatever. But some are just damn good. You won’t know what hilarious people you are missing by limiiting yourself to just 3 or 4. :)

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by Angy on Oct 10, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bobby, I'm thinking you might enjoy Battle of California

Irreverent, usually good for a laugh, and easy to skim for stuff you might be into.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Usually good for a laugh? ALWAYS good for a laugh. :)

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by Angy on Oct 10, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

battle of California?

Is that a hockey blog?

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here

www.battleofcali.com

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh well

Always an advantage to be under estimated. Respect is over rated, who cares what others think of you.

Thou shalt not recognize false enemies, they are the Rangers, you shall have no other enemies before them.
AND "Thank you Dale Tallon"

by since70too on Oct 10, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm very confused by the Garth slamming

How exactly did he destroy the franchise? By drafting pretty well and turning minor deals and waiver pick-ups into 30 goal scorers?

A lot of people have contributed to the destruction of the franchise. By any objective measure, Garth isn’t even almost close to being one of them.

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by Pretty Good Idiot on Oct 10, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Slam Garth

That’s it! My pacifistic are done. Thems fighting words.

Thou shalt not recognize false enemies, they are the Rangers, you shall have no other enemies before them.
AND "Thank you Dale Tallon"

by since70too on Oct 10, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Every gm makes every pick right?

No GM is 100 percent in any sport on draft picks. Ever.

he didn’t reply to my post yet, and I don’t expect him to. He also slammed the Isles for having a day game on Coloumbus day, saying nobody gets that day off except the post office.

Ignorance knows no boundaries with him I see.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was being facetious.

I like Josh.

Also, my office is 80% empty as people get the day off. I do not work for the post office.

by Les Beaver on Oct 10, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I knew you were being facetious

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

They have also played on Columbus Day

since forever.

"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science

by Pretty Good Idiot on Oct 10, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Along with other teams

Of course, I’m sure he knew none of this.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure that was part of the facetiousness

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It didn't read well at all to me

and I have no idea their true view on Snow. But the comment on day games was silly enough for me to not take it seriously.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sarcasm

Something can only be sarcasm if the straightforward meaning is so obviously absurd that it can’t possibly be what is intended.

WADR to Garth, I don’t think the rebuild is at a stage where one can say that about his performance.

by DP'sknee(andhipandflubugandotherknee) on Oct 10, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

Regarding Snow, I don’t think the point would be the rebuild — the absurdity is that Mike Milbury and the owners he worked under were who ruined once-proud days.

But it was a throwaway links post, so I didn’t give any of it more than two seconds’ thought.

Lighthouse Hockey: A flute with no holes is not a flute. A Dane with no holes is Frans Nielsen.

by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do they know, they live in the Wilderness where there are no tv's.

That’s like asking sasquatch what he thinks about hockey.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 10, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can try

this I’m not sure if it’ll work, since they weren’t in preseason, but I used this in the regular season last year. Good site to bookmark.

Isles jerseys I've owned: Fisherman, Tim Connolly, Josh Bailey RBK Edge edition. I've got a history of success.

by ArsenalLI on Oct 10, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

working for me

p2p4u.net has worked well for me in the past as well

Take em to the jabrone-zone

by IslesJabronie on Oct 10, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

hollweg

is such a lowlife scumbag. he gets his ass kicked by haley and then cheapshots him when the refs are holding them. pathetic. remind me again why haley isnt on the islanders? thats pathetic too. this team is way too soft

by ripcurl2121 on Oct 10, 2011 11:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Can't win

The team is too soft. Hamonic shoulnt fight. We need Haley in the lineup, we need to cut down on the bad penalties….sigh

The tough as nails Wild and Panthers are in town...Hansons start

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by Keith Quinn on Oct 10, 2011 11:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I agree that in that instance

…Hamonic shouldn’t have to fight. Right now he is Isles best physical/shutdown defenseman. All we need is a broken knuckle or some stupid injury.

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 10, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

ANOTHER

TOP 5 PICK ON THE WAY. FIRE GARTH SNOW!!!

by afrosupreme on Oct 10, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

greatest t-shirt ever?

for $20 bucks, i think so!
seen it in the islanders team store, and found it pretty cool

by amongru22 on Oct 10, 2011 12:02 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

lol, that's great.

What do you mean they won 4 cups in a row? Is that possible?

by OzzyFan on Oct 10, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

How come they don't have those on the team store

Website? I guess I will just wait until I’m there next month to go to that store.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

panthers game

was a bust, and we all know how hard it is to have two busts back to forth right? oh god please let it be right.

The Islanders' team surgeon is now the 4th wealthiest man in the United States

by CraigConway on Oct 10, 2011 12:08 PM EDT reply actions  

150 comments for a pregame thread on a Monday afternoon

Who gets more excited for afternoon hockey than Islanders fans?!?!

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by Chris McNally on Oct 10, 2011 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

And they're all sarcastic

"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science

by Pretty Good Idiot on Oct 10, 2011 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thered be more

but theyre still using 56k modems out in the wilderness

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by Chris McNally on Oct 10, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Garth Snow probably claimed their cable modems off Waivers

or at least that would be the story out of Minnesota

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by Chris McNally on Oct 10, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

The lowly Minnesota internet speeds

are Garth Snow’s fault. But I like a lot of the ISPs out there.

"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science

by Pretty Good Idiot on Oct 10, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

I joined in a bit too. This is how I spend my lunch lol.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Oct 10, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a bit nervous about this game. Its not a must win, the 2nd game of the season can't be, but I think its important

for the Islanders to get off to a good start this year. There is excitement and optimism right now and if they are 3-7 or 2-8 after 10 games it will be all gone and the Coliseum will be empty. This is a home game against a team that missed the playoffs last year (barely but they still missed) and we just lost our opener at home to another non-playoff team.

Part of me is afraid that this team may not be ready yet. I’m sold on JT, Kyle, Frans, Grabner. I’m a believer in Moulson and Parentau, but they’re 28 and 29 this year, past their prime for most players. We need production from Bailey and Comeau and Rolston. We could use some production from Reasoner, Martin and Pandolfo too. I’m just afraid that if they start losing the negativity will be overwhelming. And even if this year doesn’t go well the future is bright for this team because in addtion to the good young players on the team now there are more in the pipeline. I just think they need to be good enough to keep the fans interested. I’m nervous about this opening stretch here.

by TMS71 on Oct 10, 2011 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Good points

I would argue that 28 and 29 is right around prime time for a forward, though. Offensive production often starts to drop off, but I think they are generally better defensively at 28/29 than 24/25.

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 10, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aye, lots of silly things riding on this opening week

The “optics” of not starting strong are not good.

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by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there a particular reason why the Isles are once again NOT in HD?

This better not be a trend, there is no excuse why a professional hockey team in 2011 does not have every single game broadcast in HD. And I’m 99.9% positive that if I switch over to MSG the Devils game WILL be in HD.

The New York Islanders....they make opposing goalies look gooooood.

by Metalstar on Oct 10, 2011 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

As expected the Devils ARE in HD.

Is MSG offering some lame excuse like that they can’t broadcast two games in HD at the same time? Total BS.

Also on a sidenote, does anyone else miss Deb Placey? After seeing her doing Isles games for so long it just seems wrong seeing her doing the Devils. No disrespect to the new guy but it’s just not the same LOL.

The New York Islanders....they make opposing goalies look gooooood.

by Metalstar on Oct 10, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should write to them and complain.

GO SHARKS!
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by Angy on Oct 10, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably won't help

We have two channels for four teams: Rangers, Knicks, Devils, Islanders. They get preference in that order, since Cablevision owns the first two teams. When all four are playing on the same night you practically have to build a HAM radio to catch the Islanders.

"He's depriving some small village of a pretty good idiot" - Mike Milbury on Ziggy Palffy's agent. On Twitter: @Dan_of_Science

by Pretty Good Idiot on Oct 10, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

You forgot the Sabres LOL.

It was better back in the day when the Rangers were on MSG, the Isles and Devils were on Fox Sports NY and the Sabres were on Empire.

The New York Islanders....they make opposing goalies look gooooood.

by Metalstar on Oct 10, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, but...

…I do think Isles should have gotten more in return.

Fire Garth now!

by North Dakota Red Eagle on Oct 10, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Devil's fans complain about MSG too

They have the same complaints that Islander fans have.

"We can't get pushed around," Haley said. "What commentators say about us, that's their job. My job is to try and limit as many people who want to take liberties with our guys as possible."

by BobbyNystromOwnsYou on Oct 10, 2011 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Colton

he produces pretty much the same as Trevor does, minus the awesome ’stache

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by Chris McNally on Oct 10, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

when i said produces

I meant offensively, Colton never throws the hands

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by Chris McNally on Oct 10, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

And this one actually IS related to the Original Power Forward™.

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by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Game thread link

You don’t have to leave here for any on-topic discussions, but for in-game tomfoolery and updates head to the official game thread brought to you by Food & Widgets & Credit Reports:
http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2011/10/10/2480135/islanders-gameday-minnesota-wild
http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2011/10/10/2480135/islanders-gameday-minnesota-wild
http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2011/10/10/2480135/islanders-gameday-minnesota-wild

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by Dominik on Oct 10, 2011 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Where are we doing FIG's for this game?

The New York Islanders....they make opposing goalies look gooooood.

by Metalstar on Oct 10, 2011 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Seems like a good crowd again

hopefully this becomes a trend this year

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by ArsenalLI on Oct 10, 2011 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Im watching this game, the wild have a monster defensmen who’s all over the ice. #4. Clayton Stoner, Not just bc he carries a bad ass hockey name…but I mean the dude is 6-3/225. Could we package Motteau, Bailey, and a prospect for this guy? In 57 games last yr he was +4 and put up a few points.

by mdesarmo on Oct 10, 2011 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  


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