Bridgeport and Prospect Roundup 1/30
Despite dropping their fourth straight game this week, the Bridgeport Sound Tigers had a good week. All three games were one goal games (including one empty netter). Justin DiBenedetto was named 2nd star with a 2 goal performance against Albany in a 6-4 loss. DiBenedetto's goals were assisted by Ty Wishart, Mark Katic and Rhett Rakhshani, David Ullstrom. Thomas Marcinko [Micheal Haley] and Jesse Joensuu [Brett Motherwell, Dustin Kohn] rounded out the scoring. Mikko Koskinen had 28 saves on 33 shots.
If your worried Kevin Poulin might not be getting a workout in BP, your fears are unfounded as he had 45 saves on 48 shots to win 2nd star in the 3-2 loss to Worcester. DiBenedetto [Tony Romano, Kohn] and Dylan Reese [Rob Hisey, Joensuu] scored the goals. Bridgeport finished the week with a 3-2 loss to Manchester. They did outshoot Manchester 33-22, and Joel Martin had 19 saves. Katic [Rakhshani, Ullstrom] and Hisey [Joensuu, Mark Wotton] scored the goals on the night. [DiBenedetto Fight]
After an 8-win December fueled by Josh Bailey, the Sound Tigers have 1 win in 13 January games. They are last in the Atlantic Division and 12th in the Eastern Conference. Although their playoff hopes are fading, they are only 8 points out of the playoffs. The play of Joel Martin is also interesting, as his .911 SV% (123 saves on 135 shots) is better then both Nathan Lawson .903% and Mikko Koskinen .882%. The 28 year old Martin obviously isn't in long term plans, but he also has never played this many games at the AHL level. With Lawson most likely on his way out, Poulin possibly starting next season in the NHL, Martin might be auditioning for a spot next season.
Natural Born Kirills
Kirill Petrov had an assist in 2 games this week making his season total 8 Goals, 9 Assists for 17 points in 42 games.
Kirill Kabanov was a healthy scratch in Lewiston's only game this week. On the season he has 5 goals and 10 assists for 15 points in 21 games.
WHL, OHL, NCAA and Europe
Tony Dehart returned this week for Oshawa, but both he and Calvin De Haan were pointless in both their games this week finishing -1. De Haan For the year has 2 goals, 26 assists for 28 points in 35 games, Dehart has 2 goals, 19 assists for 21 points in 38 games. [Highlights from Oshawa's win vs Saginew]
After being held pointless in the Majors' 4-1 win over Brampton, Casey Cizikas opened a can as he had 2 goals and an assist for a 2nd star against Peterborough. Cizikas has 25 goals, 26 assists for 51 points in 38 games. [Slightly Disturbing Cizikas tribute video] [Highlights from 3 Point Night]
Nino Niederreiter had 2 goals in 3 games this week for Portland. He has 22 goals, 16 assists for 38 points in 35 games. Despite missing 10 games and training camp for Portland, he is tied for 3rd in goals and is 6th in points on the team. [Nino Takes the Ice]
David Toews played 4 games this week notching an assist as Brandon split their games. In 41 games Toews has 11 goals, 15 assists for 26 points.
The North Dakota prospects lit the lamp this weekend against Colorado College. On the first night Jason Gregoire had 2 goals and Brock Nelson started off scoring in the 6-0 rout on the second night. Nelson Gregoire both had assists on the second night for what is (I believe) Brock's first two point game. With 5 goals and 5 assists for 10 points in 27 games, Nelson is in the top ten in both goals and points on North Dakota. Gregoire has 12 goals, 9 assists for 21 points in 22 games this year. [Gregoire 2 goals]
Anders Lee, you are so dreamy, can we just sign you now? This weekend Notre Dame played Miami back to back and scored a total of 7 goals in two ties. Of those 7 goals, Anders Lee had a part in 5 of them. On the first night he had assists on ND's final two goals in the 3rd to tie the game. On the second night he scored both of NDs goals in their 2-2 tie. Lee has 18 goals, 15 assists for 33 points in 30 games.
The University of Denver and Matt Donovan were off this week. Donovan has 6 goals, 12 assists for 18 points in 26 games.
Aaron Ness got his first goal of the year for Minnesota in a 5-1 win over Alaska-Anchorage. Minnesota dropped the following game to Alaska 1-0. On the year Ness has 1 goal, 9 assists for 10 points in 23 games.
Shane Sims did not get on the board in either game this week for Ohio State University. On the season he has 2 goals and 15 assists for 17 points in 26 games.
Corey Trivino had a single goal in BU's two games this week. He has 5 goals and 9 assists for 14 points in 23 games.
Despite two 5 goal games this weekend for UNH, Blake Kessel did not make the scoresheet. This year he has 5 goals and 13 assists for 18 points in 24 games.
Colgate continues to struggle as they haven't won a game since December 4th. Brian Day did add three assists across two games this weekend. Day has 8 goals, 10 assists for 18 points in 24 games.
Anders Nilsson started 2 of 3 games this week for Lulea, winning one and losing one. In the Win [Highlights] he had 18 saves on 20 shots. In the loss [Highlights] he had 20 saves on 22 shots. On the season Nilsson has 22 games played, a .913 SV%, 2.03 GAA and 4 shutouts.
Cody Rosen did not play this week.
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We have a collection of pictures we can use with any article, usually it’s getty pictures and AP photos from the last 3 months. So although that’s a great pic, it just happens that it’s not among the pics in the collection. Brock having a good run so I’ll live with it.
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…..Taylor Hall look a LOT like Matt Damon last night?
'the Sound Tigers have 1 win in 13 January games...
They are last in the Atlantic Division and 12th in the Eastern Conference. ’
on the face of it , this is horrendous. but maybe someone can help me out here. it’s not as bad it seems because the top prospects aren’t in bridgeport, right?
i wouldn't be concerned
the guys who were supposed to be playing with tigers are now up w/ the big club and performing well, and we have a chock full of college and ohl players who should step in next year and be impact players at the ahl level
by eye on the island on Jan 30, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
it’s not as bad it seems because the top prospects aren’t in bridgeport, right?
This is very true. They are either here (Hamonic, Bailey, JT, Poulin) or Jrs or college (Nino, Kirill (2), Lee, DeHaan, Cizikas, Kessel, Donovan). BPT is suffering the most because both the big club and BPT were depleted during the Milbury reign of terror. The closest prospects were immediately placed on the big club, the least ready have stayed in Jrs because they aren’t eligible for BPT. Even Bailey wasn’t eligible for BPT last year (or at least part of last year right?). They just can’t get some of the kids to BPT yet, but next year, there should be a good influx of young talent…and in years following. No worries, reinforcements are coming!
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by Keith Quinn on Jan 30, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
I honestly don't know what to think...
I love this prospect roundup segment.
Opinion Piece:
I’m not so sure you can get too excited about any one prospect, and at the same time you can’t get too disappointed.
I couldn’t tell you whether or not the 1 win in January is something to be concerned about. It’s definitely not a positive thing. To assume the reason BBST’s are not doing well is because of Milbury’s reign of terror and the fact a lot of eligible players are already up with the big club doesn’t exactly fill me with positivity either. This could mean that such players are being robbed of development potential by being overwhelmed by NHL talent.
Since Bailey’s hip flexor issue he’s been quite frankley … horrible. He hasn’t stood out to me at all. I’m not sure if it’s mental or physical, but it’s definitely affecting him. He had an outstanding stay with the BBST, so I am more inclined to believe he’s got a mental bug-a-boo playing against the faster / bigger NHL opposition. I think he looked much better the last 3 months of his rookie year, than he does now.
The fact that we have some good Junior / NCAA players on the cusp of joining BBST’s doesn’t really do much to help the Islanders in the next 2 – 3 years. Look at one of our “draft steal” favorites. Justin DiBenedetto had a dominating performance on a line with fan favorite Matt Martin in their last year with the sans Stamkos Sarnia Sting. Now Justin is 9-2-11 in 28 games this seaon and 15-10-25 in 84 AHL games over two seasons. Hardly impressive with his talent projections. He’s 22 years old, and after his last 2 OHL seasons, you’d think he’d be pushing a center on the Isles down the depth charts.
I’ll tell you who I’m excited about as far as rookies and prospects go. John Tavares. I know… I’m captian obvious … and YES … He’s still a prospect. He’s only 20 years old. JT has had his bumps along the way … and at the risk of never winning another FIG challenge … I’ll tell you this much… I believe Johnny Tavares is going to tear it up the last 33 or so games. I see him getting between 15 – 18 goals the rest of the way. He’ll owe it to the return of Okposo and the emergence of Grabner, which gives the Islanders a lil more “teeth” to their offensive “Buzz Saw” … not that the Isles’ offense is impressive… It’s just that Okposo & Grabs gives the opposition another line to worry about.
Back to the non-NHL prospects. In simple terms I believe that if a prospect can’t dominate at the amateur level they are playing at … odds are against them that they’ll be able to do that against the worlds best hockey players.
Andres Lee and Casey Cizikas are definitely good feeling stories … but so was Justin DiBenedetto … and Trivino and Ness when they were drafted. Look. DiBo was the last player the Isles picked in the 6th round. He’s already beat the odds, and is a professional hockey player. He’s a depth center now, and after his ELC is done, Garth has to determine if DiBo has any more to give.
As far as Kirill “squared” is concerned… We have one (Kabanov) that is considered a highly skilled loose cannon that is still far away from making an impact physically and skillfully. Honestly … look how far down on the scoring leaders sheet for the MAINEiacs he is. He’s a second thought healthy scratch for a decent QMJHL team.
Petrov … 8 – 9 – 17 in 42 GP in a pro-league that is considered sub-standard to the NHL. I’d love to have him on the Isles … but. He’s not really putting up impressive numbers. Could it be that he’s not playing with talent that can support his stats? Who knows. What I do know is that 8 goals in 42 games in ANY league isn’t really impressive. Yes!! The KHL and most Euro leagues have less scoring due to the larger ice surface. I took that into account.
All this being said … I think the Islanders have a “Good” crop of prospects, that they haven’t seen in over a decade. That isn’t saying much since it’s been a long time since the Islanders have even put the proper focus on developing players … but it’s a good start.
Additionally… I think light years more important than our opinions, and determining which players are on the horizon is comparing our current prospect corps against other teams’. Are our prospects at the top of the scoring leader charts against their peers over the past several draft classes, and up coming draft class? Does our AHL team’s players dominate against other teams? Do our players at the Bridge dominate the scoring charts? How are our defenseman performing at all levels of hockey against their draft peers?
Here’s a big one. How many All-Stars, WJC players are among Islander prospects at all levels. The bad news. Only rookie Michael Grabner (skills competition attendee) made any noise at the NHL level… and he wasn’t even a prospect. He’s a now player…. drafted and developed by another team. He’s not a success story for our amateur scouting staff. He’s a success story for our pro-scouting staff and a lil bit of luck that he was available on the waiver wire… and a good pickup by Garth.
The good news? There are more positives in prospect development than there has been in the past. The question is, when will they emerge to their full potential to not only make the Islanders … but to help the Islanders beat the stuffing out of the rest of the league.
It’s nice getting these prospect roundups, because it gives us an opportunity to see how our guys are doing on a week to week basis. We can’t get too excited or to down based on a week’s performance. I think the best metric to measure the Isles’ collective prospect potential is measuring players’ progress against each other, and other teams’ prospects.
If you believe Hockey’s Futures … The Islanders are ranked 17th in prospect rankings. Not very impressive for a team that has made the playoffs only one time since the lockout. I know I know. There’s the Mad Mike factor … but here’s another factor … He hasn’t drafted a player since the 2005 entry draft. FIVE drafts removed. He’s not much of a factor anymore, except perhaps risidually on the quality of the Islanders’ prospect pool.
Also, recent 1st round picks, Bailey and Tavares are up with the NHL and aren’t included in the HF rankings … Consider this though. Other teams also have young guns and stud veterans already playing in the NHL … and neither Bails or JT have thus far blew the doors off the NHL. JT may be the only player with the potential among the two to do so. Assuming they both do … they still need lots of high quality help.
Then there is the question of how long do we keep these players in the AHL to (commonly used term) “OVER RIPEN?” … Just like the model franchise, Detroit Redwings does. Ask yourself this… Is that really the strategy of the Redwings? Maybe. Or perhaps it’s the fact that their prospects have all the time in the world to develop because their is no room on the parent club’s roster due to their high quality NHL talent spread over the entire roster.
I just wanted to put this all out there. Something to think about. I tend to manage my expectations with a more tempered view of our prospects… Call it the Scott LaChance factor.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Jan 30, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Some of this may be disappointing,
I couldn’t tell you whether or not the 1 win in January is something to be concerned about. It’s definitely not a positive thing.
Remember who is/was missing down there through most of January (not that this is a cracker jack line-up even with these guys)
Poulin, Lawson, Bailey, Sim, Joensuu, Colliton, Hamonic, Reese, Dibo (injured for a while, may be getting some leg back?) and team high scorer Rahkshani (concussed). Consider what most teams would look like if you pulled their top forward line, top D pairing, top 2 goalies, and their shutdwon gritty center…Many would look awful for that stretch. I’m not too concerned with how BPT looks right now given their roster. Joensuu has been on a pretty good tear since he got back, and Dibo missed most of Nov/Dec, as did Hisey. They’ll probably go on a bit of a run if they get some of the guys back.
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I hear ya but ...
Mostly not having their top two goalies for about 10 days showed the work that needed to be done by Koski …
I don’t consider Sim even a prospect … and he’s gone to Swiss League now anyway. I just think it’s very hard to gauge the Sound Tigers overall … because no one has ran with the ball so to speak. Honestly I only get to read the press clippings of the BBST, so going by that, fan postings and stats I measure them against other teams … and even though, as I said I’m not too concerned … I also don’t take it as a positive thing either.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Jan 30, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
No i didn't consider Sim a prospect either
or Hilbert for that matter, but both of those guys were supposed to provide some leadership and scoring throughout the year and allow some of the kids to be able to play better hockey. Organizational depth yada yada…I am niether enthused, concerned, or dismayed either. Except for Mikko…that’s scary It’ll get there, but from what it looks like, it will happen close to the exact same time the big club starts their ascent.
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I can't blame you for being down, but
DiBo was always considered a long shot prospect. He’s someone that I personally am hoping for just because he had so many detractors.
But Anders Lee, Petrov and Kabanov were all considered first round talent that fell for different reasons. If you look at Lee’s stats, not only is he flat out tearing it up and getting better in every game, but he is continually a clutch player. Petrov’s stats aren’t huge, but everyone raved about him at camp and he’s someone ready for the NHL. He’s doing good for someone in their first season in the KHL and playing among men even if the KHL is a lesser league.
Kabanov you really can’t go by his stats because he’s missed a bunch of games, but obviously he’s a long term project and is going to be given all the time he can to improve in Juniors. He has shown plenty of flashes and from all reports is improving his defensive game and becoming more responsible.
The Situation with Ness is odd, he’s not being helped by being on a poor team, but someone who saw him in the game against North Dakota said that he was easily one of the best players on the ice for Minnesota. The Islanders have tried time and time again to pry him away from Minnesota but he keeps refusing to leave. We won’t know where he’s at until he’s out of Minnesota.
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DiBo is still a pleasant surprise
I agree… DiBo has always been a long shot prospect … but his stock rose considerably the last year of Junior when he lit it up without Stamkos. He and Matt Martin were both great surprises… I remember someone once posting on another board calling them the Twin Sarnia Surprises.
I just think DiBo is going to have to really step it up big time to bump his way up the depth charts. He also has to worry about this year’s draft that he doesn’t become lost in the mix.
I understand that Lee, Petrov, Kabanov and Cizikas are all on the horizon projects … some more advanced than others. I just like to compare prospects against other teams’ prospects … Where we have a deHann … a great team like the Caps has a John Carlson drafted a year earlier. That is just an example… I don’t even mean to pick apart the team by mentioning flaws or failings of the prospect pool. It’s just that I’ve been there with this team’s prospects over and over and over again. Sure enough … some of these kids are going to emerge from the pack … and given the right amount of time, the right person to mentor them … they’ll succeed.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Jan 30, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
I think there's a difference now
Not only are we looking forward to Nino, Cizikas, Lee, de Haan, the Kirills, etc. etc. … we’re seeing early returns with JT, Okposo, Hamonic, Poulin, Hillen, MacDonald; we’ve seen the Isles add wisely with Moulson and Grabner; we’re holding out hope for guys like Schremp, Comeau, Parenteau, Bailey… Based on the kind of turnaround we’re seeing now, it makes sense to hope for these players to continue to develop, for these prospects to pan out – we can believe that they’ll probably be panning out HERE instead of everywhere else.
I haven’t been this happy about Islanders hockey since 2002.
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by mikb on Jan 31, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Read my BR piece on Grabs
I point out that, for all the attacks on Snow, he has looked better in his moves than Montreal, LA, and Vancouver…and I could have thrown in Florida. And that’s just looking at Streit, Moulson, and Grabner. I am also very excited about how Kabanov is progressing. Could be another Federov.
hmmm
Grabner was drafted in 06/ same year as KO. I think you’ve overrated Justin D. He put up good junior numbers but he was a bigger role of the dice than the Kirils – Poulin, maybe Donavon, or Ullstrom, Anders Lee…they have far better potential as draft steals – Hamonic, Macdonald were steals. Other teams do have prospects on their teams, but hard pressed to find a team that consistantly adds its first pick following draft to the NHL team as with Isles, barring this year. The teams ranked tops by HF still retained prospect status by not doing this. Isles have a high number of prospects(although there are holes in the prospect pool), that increases the odds as we all know it is unrealistic to expect them all to pan out.
If two picks per draft become bona-fide NHLers, that was a good draft.
I think the old saying, good to be lucky, lucky to be good may apply to Snow and Isles pro-scouts when it comes to waiver wire. Too many times, more often than not (does anyone remember the last Isles waiver wire “flops”) Snow and the pro-scouts have picked guys up off waivers only to turn their careers around and/or blossom into pro-players. It’s happened enough I think Snow deserves some credit, it can’t all be luck.
by CanadianIsleslifer on Jan 30, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
Webbard
Great job as always….any thoughts on Wishart? There was an article on here a while back that he didn’t look NHL ready…have you seen him at all – does he look as if he might get a chance up here at some point this season?
Thank you Matt Moulson!
I don't watch the games
But he has been getting on the scoresheet at a regular pace so that’s promising.
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Best Defense
Is a good Offense
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by Mark D on Jan 30, 2011 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you and Arbour would NEVER have gotten along!!!!
seriously though, the critique of him has been his ability to cover his own end of the ice.
Almost my favorite part of these weekly updates
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Josh Bailey
Josh is a classic example of a prospect that was microwaved when he should have been slow-roasted. A few prospects can handle the show at draft age, but most can’t. Not to say Josh is out of time…but his rookie contract is up this summer and he hasnt justified a 1st rnd selection let alone a top 10.
I’m worried that Hamonic and Poulin getting so many games so soon will prevent them from developing into well rounded players. Poulin for example… alot of his saves are being made from raw athleticism and thats great, but what happens when he’s 30 years old? I think alot of Dipietro’s injury issues come from being microwaved and not being weened into the show. I admit some of it stems from his aggressive style but the knee and hip issues are from being rushed.
what ya think?
I'm a jerk about roster management, but
I secretly hope Bailey’s poor third year becomes cause to lock him up long-term at a really low rate. They show belief in him with term, he accepts salary that will be below market once he blossoms in a year or two, they get five years of underpaid Frans-iness…well I can dream anyway.
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It will be a big test to see how he reacts
What he did after going to BPT shows that he is the kind of guy that takes adversity and uses it to make him better. I do think he will come out good. I would also like him to play with some better players. He seems to overthink things right now and that might come from not trusting the guys he’s with. One thing to keep in mind too is he was not drafted as a high scorer. He is meant to be a shut down two way center. It is quite possible that he has been stuck playing a more defensive role to cover Comeau & Schremp’s asses. I know I’m a bit of a Bailey apologist but I have not seen anything off the puck to get me worried about him.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
A one win January makes me wonder my position on Kevin Poulin being in the A
My primary reason for wanting him down there was so that he deosn’t get his confidence shot to hell while playing behind an overmatched NHL team. If his confidence gets all shot to hell while playing behind an overmatched AHL team, is that worse?
NTIPC
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jan 30, 2011 3:52 PM EST reply actions
Considering he had a 48 save night, I’d think his confidence was fine even in the loss.
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Curious about Gregoire
I try to keep up with these prospect roundups as much as I can, but I’ve never seen much in depth coverage of him. Given that he led UND in goals as a sophomore, and is point a game this year, I was wondering what you think his roof is. Hockeyfutures has him as a middle six forward, but from what I can piece together from his size, skill set, and the other info out there he sounds a lot like Moulson. Is that a reach, or does this kid possibly have the potential to be a top-line forward threatening to score 30 someday?
Hard to say
He did a couple years in USHL before going to UND. Seems like his skating is good, but I’m not qualified nor seen enough to know how well it will translate in the pros. I think he looks strong on his feet.
Can’t dislike what he’s done in college. I just put him in that group who I hope are soon making Bridgeport better and fighting for shots to make it all the way. The more competition they have like that, the better. Nice thing with these college guys is they come out older, bigger, and having competed against more physically mature opponents. Don’t know about the Moulson comparison — profile, maybe, but those are always luck of the draw and opportunity — but should have a good shot at being an NHLer. With the Isles, hopefully.
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Yea, I was sort of struck by the similar numbers they put up at the college level, size, good hands, etc. And like you said, hopefully his shot comes with the Isles, because that was the other thing that struck me about him. Here’s a guy that has a had a pretty successful career playing for one of the top teams in college hockey and he doesn’t get near the attention as a lot of other prospects, I think in part because, like Moulson, there isn’t any one thing about him that jumps out at you.
It will be nice when some of these guys are at Bridgeport, making them less terrible, and forcing the guys on the big club to keep their production up.
He's faster than Moulson
Has a better shot too. He is not as much a garbage goal man. There’s no real way to know how he will transition but 3rd line 15-20 goals is a reasonable expectation. He could surprise and be a 30+ but you cannot really project that. He’s been on a tear after missing 4 weeks injured which is a good sign. That’s the kind of resiliency you like to see. I’ve caught about 6 North Dakota games on TV this year and he’s looked good in most of them. I would think he get’s his shot at least.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
Was Jack Capuano an AHLcoaching genius?
The Sound Tigers do have a new coach as well, so I’m wondering what impact that has had on their record? If Capuano isn’t coaching the Isles next year does he resume his old post in the AHL?
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