Islanders Suspend Evgeni Nabokov
Link is to official site. Ed. note: "I SAID, 'Do you like apples?'"
@KatieStrangNYI has a few more fun details, including mention of tolling.
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Took them long enough
I don’t think they should toll it though. As much as the situation sucks and punishing the guy would be nice there is no reason to keep this circus going in to the offseason.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
Agreed
No need to extend it, but stand firm now.
Wonder if I can cancel my #20 Nabokov jersey order?
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#20 jersey? LOL
Dom, for the life of me I can’t recall anyone of any signicicance that wore #20 for the Isles. Can anyone recall a great/good player that wore #20?
by Russel Ginart on Jan 25, 2011 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
YES the Webber & I was WRONG: Ray Ferraro!!!!
Here are a couple of more no big names:
Sean Bergenhiem, Ray Ferraro, Richard Grenier, Dale Henry, Matts Halin, Wayne Merrick, Bob Nystrom ( he does not count he only wore #20 in 1973), Doug Rombough, Yvon Voutour, Richard Zednik, Steve Webb.
by Russel Ginart on Jan 25, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Probably shouldn't toll it
But….wouild be cool if they could hold onto him next year….get everyone back….be a 4th seed next season and then trade him to the Devils or whoever is at the bottom of thr standings
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"Past performance Is Not A Guarantee For Future Results"
lmao. That would be great.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
Better then great, epic! lol. We kind of did that to chico, but chico didn't do anything to us.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
This guy is a disrespectful jerkoff
good riddance, a-hole
Seems to be some chatter that the Isles
will toll his contract for next year too. Man how a simple phone call etiquette could’ve changed this whole situation. What a dick Nabby is.
by DieHardDyingHard on Jan 25, 2011 4:34 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Let him rot
If the guy can’t show any common decency, then to hell with him and his career.
by DieHardDyingHard on Jan 25, 2011 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
Nabakov just fucked his chances of ever playing in this league again
and given the suspension I don’t think he can play back in Russia. I think the trasfer agreement prohibits suspended players in either league from moving back and forth.
Stick it to em!!!!
Is Meehan Matt Moulson's agent as well?
Just throwing it out there to see what impact this could have.
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by Hockey1919 on Jan 25, 2011 4:42 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure Meehan doesn't like looking bad
Probably figured that Nabokov wanted to get his foot back in the door, play some games in the NHL before UFA starts and the market is saturated. Who remembers how good Nabokov used to be? You take a look at his KHL stats and they look bad, are you going to gamble for him or overpay a Vokun or Anderson?
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Not just Moulson...
According to the ever-omniscient Wikipedia, Meehan is also the agent for Bailey, RSH, Hamonic, and Martin.
by SchneiderDiricov on Jan 25, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Who is this guy? How could a sports agent this big put one of his clients in a situation like this.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
Hell, his agent fee on this one was gonna be peanuts
Wonder if he had a cut of the $24 million KHL deal that was terminated?
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Why?
What’s he gonna do convince half the RFAs he represents to sign elsewhere? Maybe the agent should be concerned that he let this get out of hand and some of his clients will drop him.
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
by Keith Quinn on Jan 25, 2011 6:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed. I saw this and he's my agent, he gets dropped like Nabakov's jaw when he heard of this suspension.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
I think Meehan is just doing as instructed by the Knob.
I can’t imagine a big name like Meehan making such an amatuer mistake. He probably advised Nabokov what the situation is and the Knob probably ignored it in favor of his fantasy of going to the Wings to do them what he did to the Sharks.
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exactly this
The agent is bound to respect his client’s wishes, even when his client wishes to be a complete tool. That’s the business. I think the Islanders and Garth Snow realize and respect that.
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by mikb on Jan 26, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
For sure
I read that between the lines of the whole “oh, I didn’t know it was Garth calling” B.S., and Garth telling Meehan just do me a favor, have him call me.
I don’t think Knob put Meehan in a good position.
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Good move
Snow made the right call here. Of course people are going to to try and make it look like the Isles are being the big bad organization, but F*** em I say
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The Isles are looking to Toll Nabakov's contract
This is fucking awesome. Basicly cause he won’t report his contract is extended to next year. Requires league approval but I doubt they will put up much of a fight. I hope the isles keep him suspended so he can’t weasal his way to europe or back to Russia.
Fucking prick!!!
by Chickendirt on Jan 25, 2011 5:00 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Tolling is an interesting idea, but
do we really want that poison in a young locker room?
NTIPC
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jan 25, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Like he would show up to the locker room!
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Jan 25, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
It may be a favor
to other locker rooms and assorted playoff dreams.
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
We could waive him the the ahl next year as worst case scenario, then he's likely picked up by a bad team or playing in bridge.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
F him he ranks right up there with Dale Hunter on my shit list now
by Torch7 on Jan 25, 2011 5:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Nabokov = Muller
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I’d be okay with letting this saga fizzle out at the end of this season. While Nabby is a dick, I hate giving the Canadian media more circus fodder even though the Isles did nothing wrong here (except try to improve their team). Meehan’s not going to screw the Isles through Bailey, Hamonic, Martin or RSH. He’s a professional, and if he expects other teams to take him seriously as an agent, he’ll leave the Nabby drama with that client. If this contract is tolled, Nabokov would do wonders by fixing his attitude, play some games and hope to get traded to a contender. Stupid choker goalie.
Hunter said he was just finishing his check.
Right on, Pierre...
EN should have been a professional & played, helping our great young team, & setting a positive example. We don’t need his attitude stinking up the Coli!
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by IslanderDoug on Jan 25, 2011 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
The chorus of
“Why would Nabokov want to play for a joke like the Islanders” is getting tiresome – let’s just let the media circus leave town.
Bad goalie. BAD GOALIE!
I’m sure we hurt his feelings. Although sitting out at the age of 35 is not exactly the best strategy. Would Nabi lose more money getting shelled in the Isles net or sitting out for the remainder of the season? From sitting out it almost seems like he is scared that he would be exposed for not being the reputable goalie that he believes that he is currently. I’m curious to see what he gets in his next contract and who will be foolish enough to overpay if anyone will do that at this point.
No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown. -- William Penn
If he gets shelled in net for thw Wings, doesn't he look even worse?
He could always say I looked bad, but look at the team in front of me with the Isles. With the Wings, he’d be exposed as a fraud.
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knobby
quick question if we do toll him and hes our property next year then would we be able to trade him without exposing him to waivers first next year. also when will nhl announce who is replacing hemsky crosby malkin in all star game. thanks in advance.
Yandle is D so 1 more C
For all we know they asked JT and he declined. Skinner might be a good choice. McKenzie brought up his name earlier and it makes sense. It’s in Carolina, he’s already there as a rookie competitor, and the numbers are good enough. Malkin only went official (as a no go) this afternoon so we might not hear of his replacement until tomorrow.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
First time i've heard this....
incarceratedbob on Twitter
BREAKING NEWS Nabokov is “Considering” reporting to Islanders > Agent wants Snow to Guarantee (7-8 Games in Net be4 Trade Deadline)
He posted this at 1pm….which was before any word of him being suspended so who knows
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
Dear Nabby,
That depends. Will you play well? Then you will get starts. Not play well? Then no one will want you anyway. How long have you been off the ice again?
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He said he would need time to prepare when he first signed with Detroit
How much time?
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
I think he said about two-to-three weeks.
2011 is our year! Now if only seasons didn't span over two years.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jan 25, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
Is that how long
It takes to have a sub 3.00gaa and a .900+ sv%? Screw him. I wouldn’t play him at all. We hold the cards now and now he wants to show up? How do you put him in there with the kids that want to be here. Lockerroom cancer already.
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
by Keith Quinn on Jan 25, 2011 6:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
GAME THREAD HERE
http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2011/1/25/1956132/islanders-penguins-game-thread
http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2011/1/25/1956132/islanders-penguins-game-thread
Sorry, not sure why it wasn’t showing up earlier…
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Why would the trade deadline matter?
Its not like they can trade him.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Jan 25, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
He probably wants us to do him a favor and waive him then to see where he goes.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
My two cents
I think they should hold him to his contract next year (never heard the term “tolling” before… sounds odd), and hopefully the League will make an example of this and allow the Islanders to trade him without putting him on waivers next year. That would force him to place nice and do what all other hockey players must do: Play well in order to get ice time (either here or with another team via trade).
While I understand people concerned about the media circus and taking pot shots at the Isles, let’s face it: the circus will continue regardless, and they’ll probably find a way to abuse us even if we put him back on waivers (“wow, the Isles sure do put up a fight, don’t they? Snicker Snicker!”). The media will jump on the Islander bandwagon like my 400-pound co-worker on a T-bone steak, once the Isles start winning.
In the end, I just think it’s better for the Isles to show they mean business.
2011 is our year! Now if only seasons didn't span over two years.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jan 25, 2011 6:39 PM EST reply actions
I can't see how suspending/tolling Evie will make us look very good.....
….seems as though I’m the lone dissenting voice here (or perhaps not) but I don’t think it serves the Islanders’ long-term interests well at ALL to either suspend or toll Nabokov; the CBA and league rules will punish him accordingly – otherwise, this team looks as petulant and/or vindictive as Nabby for not reporting…..
Those are the league rules
They can’t make him report. Other teams may sour on him for this, but I doubt it. The NHL may actually want us to make this stand to avoid having good teams bring in ringers at the deadline.
"Gervais...he looks danger in the fist with his face!" JPinVA
Hell yeah
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
Depends on the effect of tolling.
If his contract is tolled next season and he no longer needs to pass through waivers to be traded, then the Islanders have a great bargaining chip. However, it isn’t clear what the ruling would be. At 17K above the league minimum there are plenty of teams that would take a chance on Nabokov. Detroit immediately comes to mind and would have to part with a mid-level draft pick at a minimum.
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A public defender would be nice
It’s really disgusting to see how media and fans alike pile on our team (and us by the way, you should see what they’re saying about people from Long Island) for doing absolutely nothing wrong. There needs to be a voice out there that offers at least an ounce of support to our franchise. A few years back, it seemed that EJ Hradek was trying to help us out, but we know that ESPN will never allow for positive Islander commentary….that’s just not good business.
To see the over-reactions of fans and media to this pretty cut-and-dry situation is really upsetting.
I feel bad for you guys
This is a good business decision, and people are shitting all over you because they think you should just roll over and not try to improve because you’re not doing great.
Do people not understand the waiver rules, or forgot the fact that his agent said he’d play for anyone? Or do they assume teams will just let him go through because he’s old and wants one last shot at the cup? Well sorry folks, that’s not how things work. I hate people, they’re the worst
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Amen.
Just cause we’re out of the playoffs doesn’t mean we don’t want to win…people are just goofy. Funny thing is, Nabby isn’t a game changer for Detroit. I really don’t think he was ever going to make it through waivers, which makes this whole thing just silly.
Agreed
Maybe he thought he’d play so double-awesome that they’d deal Howard at the deadline, sign him to mad dough, and parade him through town. Who knows? Lots of magical thinking going on there.
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Its a funny argument, you suck so don't get good players.
Does anybody realize what they are saying? The islanders aren’t any good, so why do they need good players? Detroit fans are a little bit arrogant as well.
Why did they need Yzerman, when they were the Dead Things for so many years, they made the Leafs look productive. The Olympia was dump and not even Gordie Howe wanted to stick around. 30 years later and they have the same number of Cups as the Islanders over the same time span. With the Detroit economy tanking they can’t even sell out all of their playoff games so how bad is it going to be if they take a dip in the standings. They shouldn’t be so f’ing arrogant as if it could never happen to them. Even Scott Bowman jumped ship and I could say that haven’t won dick since he left.
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well, that's US
We’re that voice you’re looking for. We honestly can’t expect the standard national sportswriter to really care much about the Islanders. It’s much easier (read: lazier) to pile on and recycle the same dumb stories over and over, as if the team were still run by Milbury.
So it’s up to us at LHH, and more generally across the SB platform. And considering the quality of stories and comment threads we see regularly, I’d say we’re up to it. Long live the citizen press!
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Star Goalie Suspended By Horrible NHL Team
Seriously, fuck the Huffington Post. That’s the headline to the Nabokov story right there. Check the link for the rest of the story, but wow, I’m definitely getting my news from somewhere else now.
Why would you get your "news" from there anyway?
They are not a news organization. It’s a propaganda site. I’d get straighter, less biased news from my dog. Her english isn’t very good but she doesn’t slant the facts.
I don't understand my dog, he's a german shephard and I don't speak german well enough.
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Fox News response - Russian goaltender gives cold shoulder to promising American youth
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by Hockey1919 on Jan 26, 2011 9:30 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I don't understand how anyone can say anything about what the Isles are doing
Every time some sports hack mentions something about the Isles, what’s the first thing they bring up? Ricky and his magical 15 year deal. Then they say how laughable that is because he is always hurt. Then we’re the bad guys for trying to fix this situation by grabbing a former All Star goaltender? I just don’t get it.
Don’t you guys get it!? You’re supposed to roll over and just give the rest of your points to the teams you play! And crush the spirits of all your young talent
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Exactly
In accordance with the prophecies media narrative.
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Are we allowed to have OTL points since they are make believe?
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by Hockey1919 on Jan 26, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think we’re supposed to crush the spirits of our young talent, but, instead, send them (Tavares in particular) to teams where they’ll have a better environment to develop and their talents will be more appreciated (like Toronto).
You really think Toronto is a better place to develop forwards? lulzzzzzzz
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
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I’m sorry your team is being treated so horribly by Nabokov. He is being extremely unprofessional and disrespectful, and he is hurting his own career by refusing to report. It was ridiculous for him to ever think that he could just decide that he was somehow exempt from waiver rules because he prefers to play for a good team. If players were allowed to manipulate waiver outcomes by stating their preferences in advance and then refusing to report to any other team, waivers wouldn’t be waivers. You can’t expect an organization to pass up an opportunity to legitimately acquire an asset jut because the player stated a preference for some other team.
Nabokov’s statements and behavior have made me feel really bad for the Islanders. I would be so offended if someone did this to my team. Nobody is “too good” to play for the NHL team that claims him, no matter where that team is in the standings. And considering that Nabokov is returning from a mediocre stint in the KHL, he should be grateful for any opportunity to play in the NHL.
I believe in Geno.
by Cari on Jan 26, 2011 2:29 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Thanks for an outside opinion. Good to know we aren't the only ones who feel this way.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
I cannot take reading about the Nabfukov situation anymore
The comments that people are making everywhere are making me want to beat the shit out of the Internet.
It is such a ridiculously pointless anger… but its there. I am so angry with people bashing the everloving snot out of this team for no reason (added on to all the beatings they get where there IS a reason).
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
Garth Snow was just sent futures from Philly, Vancouver, and Tampa
The three teams that couldn’t realistically block the move and he also improved his cred with Pittsburgh, Dallas, Boston and Washington, the teams that didn’t need the Wings getting any better than they already are.
Can you imagine if you are one of top teams in the league and your biggest competitior is allowed to add a first string goaltender for little more than left over coal? I’d be pretty pissed if I were every team, but Detroit if Garth didn’t do this.
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