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Bridgeport and Prospect Roundup 1/24

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There is a front page story on the AHL website about Bridgeport's 10 year anniversary as the Islanders farm club. Of the 30 players on the Islanders roster, 20 of them have spent time in Bridgeport during their career. Also young Zdeno Chara is taking up primo real estate place on the AHL website along with other former AHL All-Stars Martin St. Louis, Eric Staal and Bobby Ryan. In real news the SoundTigers ended their 8 game winless streak with a win over Worcester, but dropped games to both Providence and Springfield.

Nathan Lawson was sent back to BP to start Tuesday against Providence, either for his confidence or because Mikko Kosikinen has been suffering from a mysterious condition. They ended up losing in the shootout, but got there only because of Second Star of the night Lawson's 38 save performance. BP was outshot 38-17, and it wasn't that close as they only managed 5 shots in each period to 13,10 and 10 shots. Micheal Haley [David Ullstrom, Robin Figren] and Jason Pitton [Rob Hisey, Brett Motherwell] scored for BP. Does Jason Pitton sound familiar? He was the Islanders 2004 8th round selection and the SoundTigers are now his fourth team this season, his third AHL team.

Against Worcester Joel Martin got the surprise start and let up 3 goals in a row to put BP in a 3-1 hole at the halfway point of the game. But the SoundTigers rallied, sandwiching an even strength goal between two power play goals to take the lead. Dustin Kohn got his second goal of the night (and the season) putting in an empty netter. Dustin Kohn [Brett Svendsen, Pitton] Jesse Joensuu, Rob Hisey [Joensuu, Pitton] Justin DiBenedetto [Mark Katic, Ty Wishart] and Kohn [EN] had the goals on the night. Joenssu was named first star and Hisey was named second star.

For the first time in a bit the SoundTigers not just held a team to under 30 shots but kept Springfield to just 21 shots against 31 of their own. In the Third period trying to make up a one goal deficit they outshot Springfield 12-1. It was not to be as Springfield scored an empty netter after Martin was pulled from net (18 Saves on 21 Shots). Hisey [DiBenedetto, Katic] and DiBenedetto [Hisey, Joensuu] had the goals in a 4-2 loss.

Star-divide

Natural Born Kirills

Kirill Petrov had 2 goals and an assist in 5 games this week making his season total 8 Goals, 8 Assists for 16 points in 40 games. Petrov is tied for 5th on his team in goals, Tied for 10th in assists and his +3 is good for 8th on the team. For comparison's sake, Petrov's team Yugra is in the middle of the pack in goals for. He averages nearly 15 minutes a game and 16.4 shifts a game.

Kirill Kabanov had a quiet week, only notching an assist in 3 games. But he did not have a negative +/- in any game this week. On the season he has 5 goals and 10 assists for 15 points in 21 games.

WHL, OHL, NCAA and Europe

Tough week for Calvin De Haan and the Oshawa Generals. The Generals dropped 3 of 4 games this week, and DeHaan was a -2 in each loss with just 1 assist. In the lone win DeHaan was a +4 on the night and managed another assist. For the year he has 2 goals, 26 assists for 28 points in 33 games. [Highlights from Win]

Teammate and fellow Islanders Draftee Tony DeHart is out with an undisclosed injury.

Despite having his 6 game point streak snapped, Casey Cizikas had a strong week. He had a goal and 3 assists, a 2nd star of the night and a +2. Cizikas has 23 goals, 25 assists for 48 points in 36 games and a +30. The former 4th round selection is currently the leading scorer for Islanders prospects at this level. [Cizikas Goal]

Nino Niederreiter continues to be a driving force behind the Portland Winterhawks. A 2 goal, 2 assist performance including the game winner for a shorthanded Portland team in a 5-4 Overtime win earned Nino First Star. After a quiet two games, Nino busted out another 2 goal (and 1 assist) night including another Overtime game winner for the WinterHawks. Nino has 20 goals, 16 assists for 36 points in 32 games. [Nino works with RSH it appears]

After a 9-0 schlacking against Edmonton the Wheat Kings bounced back with back to back wins. David Toews had an assist in the first game and a goal in the second in helping Brandon get back to back six goal outings. In 37 games Toews has 11 goals, 14 assists for 25 points

North Dakota split their games with Nebraska-Omaha this weekend. Jason Gregoire continues to play strong coming off his injury, with 3 goals and an assist this weekend. He was also named second star of the night in UND's win for his 2 goal 1 assist night in the 2nd game.Brock Nelson played the first night (no points) but sat out the second night as a healthy scratch. UND did surrender 5 PPG to Omaha, not sure if that played a part in Brock sitting. Gregoire has 10 goals, 8 assists for 18 points in 20 games this year. Brock has 4 goals, 4 assists for 8 points in 25 games. [Gregoire goal 1] [Gregoire goal 2]

Anders Lee and Notre Dame played Ohio State this weekend, dropping the first game 6-1. Notre Dame won the second game 4-1 behind Lee's first star 2 goal performance. Lee has 16 goals, 12 assists for 28 points in 28 games.

The University of Denver swept Alaska-Anchorage, with Matt Donovan adding an assist. Donovan has 6 goals, 12 assists for 18 points in 26 games.

Minnesota and Aaron Ness were off this week.

Jason Clark did not play in the Badgers two games this week. Since this is the third straight week of Clark not playing, I'm going to stop reporting on him until he starts playing again.

Corey Trivino had a tough week for BU as they dropped 2 out of 3 and Trivino didn't score a point. He has 4 goals and 9 assists for 13 points in 21 games.

Blake Kessel had an assist in 2 games for UNH.This year he has 5 goals and 13 assists for 18 points in 22 games. [Interview]

Colgate split it's games this week and Brian Day added an assist to his season total. Day has 8 goals, 7 assists for 15 points in 22 games.

Anders Nilsson continues to be somewhat erratic for Lulea. Nilsson starts the first game of the week, a 5-4 OT win but allows 4 goals on 22 shots. Rautio allows 4 goals on 23 shots in a 5-3 loss in the following game. Nilsson then gets the following start and has 23 saves on 25 shots in a 2-0 loss for Lulea. [1st game] [2nd game]

Cody Rosen did not play this week.

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It is great to see Nino and CC doing so well. I hope they can keep that point production.

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by metalcoconut on Jan 24, 2011 7:37 AM EST reply actions  

…and all you need is a MM reference for that picture…although it really isn’t necessary. I guess Vancouver likes the ex-isled catchers?

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by metalcoconut on Jan 24, 2011 7:40 AM EST up reply actions  

More and more,

while it may be somewhat premature, I’m feeling as though DeHaan should indeed be utilized as part of a package to get both Larsson and Landeskog (depending on where we finish, of course). Calvin seems like he’ll be one more good, sometimes very good, defenseman (similar, I suspect, to Jack Hillen, and likely Matt Donovan, at his best – Kessel is still a very big question mark, of course) but I just don’t see him as capable of consistently quarterbacking the power play and being a significant offensive threat……Larsson so far has presented himself as a viable successor to Streit and DEFINITELY worth the gamble in late June…..

by ogam5 on Jan 24, 2011 8:11 AM EST reply actions  

I can’t see us starting the process all over again. Defenseman always take longer to develop and De Haan nearly made the Islanders out of camp. For me it’s the same as Petrov, they aren’t do anything huge, but they are both talented players who can make an NHL roster.

Larsson is going to put us back to square one development wise, even if we would throw him into the NHL from Day 1.

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by Mark D on Jan 24, 2011 8:41 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

almost a REC

but you forget just how high Petrov was thought to be drafted had he not had a 4 year commitment to the KHL, top 5 material that year in the predraft scouting reports

this is somewhat what i was debating with BC the other day, if De Haan can give you quality nhl minutes as a #4-5 Dman from ages 20-23 is that really so bad? there arent too many dominant 22 year old Dmen in the league, and for as good as Myers was last year, he’s certainly taking his lumps now…

that we’re getting what we’re getting out of Hamonic is just crazy really, and why i hope him and Amac are the 2nd pairing next season behind streit and a vet

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by bob l on Jan 24, 2011 8:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess I just got a bit overhyped on Petrov with the way they were talking about him after Rookie camp and was hoping for more production because I tend to consider the KHL to be somewhere inbetween the NHL and AHL. Of course that takes away from all the great cagey vets that are still plying their trade over there (Chris Simon is 3rd in the KHL in PIM).

Otherwise totally agree with you, almost no young defenseman dominant from Day One.

Also agree about Mac/Hamonic. I was just going through the Corsi ratings, and Hamonic’s is horrible. Mac is easily carrying the duo.

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by Mark D on Jan 24, 2011 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

can hamonic play better?

of corsi can

sorry, i couldn’t resist

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by bob l on Jan 24, 2011 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Gotta disagree somewhat with you on this one, Web......

…..my thinking is that Larsson, if he IS as much of a gamebreaker as advertised, will be ready by the time Streit is gone, if not well before – so in that sense, we’re NOT really going back to square one but, of course, this is dependent upon how much Mark is able to completely bounce back as a result of the shoulder injury and requisite surgery…..factor in Wishart with his even minimal offensive contribution, and unless deHaan really starts to catch fire soon, if there’s any chance of landing both Larsson and Landeskog as salivated over, we should definitely include Calvin as part of any trade which can make that a reality…..

by ogam5 on Jan 24, 2011 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Wanted to add one more

Hi guys, new here. love the blog so far. The Isles do have one more prospect that wasn’t mentioned (Shane Sims) who’s a senior defenseman at Ohio State. Don’t know too much about him but he has respectable career stats there and is having a decent year this year with (2g 15a) in 25gms which is good for 5th on the team. I do remember reading on Botta’s blog a couple months ago where he was rating the prospects and he said that the Isles were pretty high on him but cautioned that he was probably more of a depth defenseman. Anyway, great write up and looking forward to reading more of them.

by Shane72 on Jan 25, 2011 9:28 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I had to double check if the Isles still have his rights

And they appear to. I’ll start adding him to the reports starting next week.

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by Mark D on Jan 25, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

good catch

And welcome aboard!

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by mikb on Jan 25, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Torn on this one

He does seem a bit injury prone, and undersized, but also don’t forget he already played with JT and may have some instant chemistry on the PP. If he was a year or 2 older and in the same position, I would agree instantly, but I feel like we should wait. There may be stronger drafts in the future too and we may be able to do better

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 24, 2011 9:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That's a valid point too, Keith.....

….but with Donovan, and apparently Kessel, both developing very well, I’m gonna REMAIN torn…..

by ogam5 on Jan 24, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

If they're developing so well

Why wouldn’t you just offer one of them to try to move up?

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by mikb on Jan 24, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I said this below, but a decision by both Kessel and the Islanders needs to be made this offseason otherwise he won’t be Isles property. Donny they thill have another year before making a decision, so I wouldn’t be opposed to letting him stay at Denver for a third year. On the other hand, Ness needs to get the heck out of Minnesota. That program has gotten toxic over the past two seasons as Lucia’s authority and competence have been openly questioned. The Blackhawks couldn’t get Nick Leddy out of there soon enough this past offseason and I don’t think it’s in Ness’ best interest to stick around.

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by David Hanssen on Jan 24, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

DeHaan = DeBust

Kidding. Except only a little. He is looking now like a supreme over-draft (just like he did on draft day), particularly now that Kassian is lighting up juniors again. DeHaan also had a mediocre-to-poor WJC, which soured me on him as well.

CC, on the other hand, has been a real pleasant surprise so far this season.

by AP77 on Jan 24, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

does 'flag' mean like the opposite or 'rec'?

because honestly, kassian is more likely to be the nhl’s next chris simon, now if you think in this NHL that’s a good thing, then, he’s in for a fun career… in any case, happy 20th birthday Zack

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by bob l on Jan 24, 2011 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps

But maybe Kassian will pull it together. He has impressive numbers this year and performed well in the WJC (suspension aside).

by AP77 on Jan 24, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

he already has a history

20 game suspension a year ago in jan for a hit to the head, now the WJC susp for the same thing, add problems with Buffalo’s Brass and you get a headache…

i wanted him at the time too when we drafted de haan, but i had no clue he was a headcase before then…

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by bob l on Jan 24, 2011 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m aware of those suspensions. Last year’s was warranted, but frankly the WJC hit was kind of borderline. From what they’re saying in the CHL, he has shaped up this year.

He’s got a risk factor, but most power forwards do. . . .

by AP77 on Jan 24, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Borderline?

Really? That hit was about as clear cut a hit to the head as I’ve ever seen. The suspension was more than warranted.

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by David Hanssen on Jan 24, 2011 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, really

I’ve watched it many, many times and t is very difficult to tell where the initial contact is made. Ultimately, I think the better view is that it’s a shoulder to chest hit. It was a bit late, though.

by AP77 on Jan 24, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I hate to break it to you but you’re in the very small minority there with Mike Milbury and Pierre McGuire.

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by David Hanssen on Jan 24, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Not great company.

by AP77 on Jan 24, 2011 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Nonsense

One’s a former NHL GM, the other just might be a future GM.

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by Dominik on Jan 24, 2011 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Well he was an assistant in Pittsburgh, Hartford and Ottawa and was head coach of the Baton Rouge Kingfish for a season! By the way, I love how he goes by Pierre even though his real name is Regis and he’s from Englewood, New Jersey.

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by David Hanssen on Jan 24, 2011 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL - That's hysterical.

I never knew that about him. Though in his defense, there is only one Regis. He may as well be named Oprah McGuire, you know? IAnd for the record, I wou fully support Kelly Ripa taking part in hockey broadcasts.

by Les Beaver on Jan 24, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

My general philosphy

See if you are in agreement with MM, if yes, shake head violently, decide how you could ever be so wrong then immedialtely take the other side. It has been an easy policy to adopt and has served me quite well.

Sarcasm is my permanent font.

by Hockey1919 on Jan 24, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a bad general rule

But it means siding against Snow / Islanders in the Nabakov fiasco.

by AP77 on Jan 24, 2011 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I refuse to even listen to Milbury in this matter, so I remain uncontaminated by his opinion.

Sarcasm is my permanent font.

by Hockey1919 on Jan 24, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

no tolerance rule

in IIHF rules right?

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by bob l on Jan 24, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m not surprised it was a suspension under international rules. But I think it might have been a different story in the CHL or (especially) the NHL.

by AP77 on Jan 24, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually

It would have been an automatic suspension in the OHL as well. They have a zero tolerance policy on head shots just like the IIHF.

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by David Hanssen on Jan 24, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

To wit, no penalty was initially called — and by European refs, no less.

But as a general matter, it’s true, I forgot that the OHL has the same even “area” of the head rules that the IIHF has.

by AP77 on Jan 24, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

in re FLAG

NO NO NO! Do NOT flag a comment because you disagree with it! Flag is reserved specifically for inappropriate stuff like spamming, trolling, and generally Averying up the place.

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by mikb on Jan 24, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yeah was gonna say

Kassian has huge one square piece of real estate issues.

by BCISLEMAN on Jan 25, 2011 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

The Islanders have faith in De Haan via the drafting of Dehart.

I think the kids going to be good, just give him time.

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by Mark D on Jan 24, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Along those lines, I have to disagree with the assessment that if the Isles are in the position to draft Larsson and do, that means de Haan is trade bait. Maybe one of the lower level guys along like a Ness, Donovan or Kessel gets shopped, but not de Haan. Even adding Larsson, there isn’t enough long term depth on the blueline to justify trading de Haan if Larsson is drafted. About the only guys penciled in long term are MacDonald and Hamonic. Streit is signed for two more years and will be 36 when his contract expires, not a long term option. Eaton and Mottau are signed for next year, neither are long term solutions. Martinek is fragile and 35 the start of next season. It doesn’t make sense why they would trade de Haan even if they pick Larsson.

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by David Hanssen on Jan 24, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Radek would be an over 35 contract?

True, that would play a big role in what terms the Islanders use to sign him. Could they sign him at a cut rate deal and use games played as the guaranteed bonus? I’m shocked that he’s already 35, but I guess he came over much later. That couple with the fact that he obly plays half seasons it took me by surprise.

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by Hockey1919 on Jan 24, 2011 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

He was drafted as a 23 year old (Something that doesn’t happen anymore per changes in the CBA) and came over in 2001 when he was 25, so yeah even though he’s been in the league a decade he’s already 34 and will be 35 in August.

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by David Hanssen on Jan 24, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

North Dakota

At least 3 of the 5 PP goals were 5 on 3. One was 5 on 3 with a delayed penalty so it was really 6 on 3.

You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?

by Anarcurt on Jan 24, 2011 8:24 AM EST reply actions  

Ouch, now that I think about it, I had the boxscore open I should have checked if they track who is on the ice at the time of the goals.

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by Mark D on Jan 24, 2011 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

i watched it too

it was kind of a joke, they just kept calling penalties and ND didnt really have to do much more than look unkindly at someone in order to find themselves with a call…

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by bob l on Jan 24, 2011 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

It was very Islanderesque

You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?

by Anarcurt on Jan 24, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Oy

I was in a sports bar that had that game on, I looked away and Omaha had scored like four goals between blinks. Guess that explains it.

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by Dominik on Jan 24, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

6 min

of 5-3 straight (or something VERY close to that) will do you in most nights

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by bob l on Jan 24, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

picture caption contest
Nothing I say can be funnier then this picture currently is.

 Who says #13 is ‘unlucky’?

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by bob l on Jan 24, 2011 8:40 AM EST reply actions  

Kessel v Trivino

got to watch most of BU vs UNH this weekend

Kessel looked GREAT – I can see why some hold him in high regard

Trivino not as good as last time – he seemed off, maybe was slightly ill

in general, US college hockey is not very good – Yale & ND seem to be the only halfway decent teams

UNH, a top 10 team, only has one decent offensive line, and Kessel is there clear star on D

I really like his presence

we have quite a few good college players, but they all will have to spend some time in the minors honing their wares at a higher level

by Cary K on Jan 24, 2011 8:46 AM EST reply actions  

I Saw a Replay of that Game While Waiting to Get My Car Fixed Today

Trivino a quiet game, looks a lot like Nielsen physically and the way he skates.

I agree on Kessel. The knock on him I always read is that maybe he can’t skate well enough for the NHL. I don’t see that at all. This was the first time I saw him play and he skates better than Gilroy. He looked real good playing the right side, but on the PP UNH had him playing the left point so he kept having to go to his backhand to pass down to the half boards on his side of the ice. Couldn’t figure out why the coach kept him there.

by rmblifn on Jan 25, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Did I miss something??
Nathan Lawson was sent back to BP to start Tuesday against Providence, either for his confidence or because Mikko Kosikinen has been suffering from a mysterious condition.

Thought he was out for 2 weeks with an mcl sprain??

by Timtropolis on Jan 24, 2011 9:26 AM EST reply actions  

He got injured in his start back here

On Friday.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 24, 2011 9:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I thought so...

that’s why I was asking about the article

by Timtropolis on Jan 24, 2011 9:40 AM EST reply actions  

Oh yeah

He got sent back down on Monday to start over koskinen though, and had a good game. He was recalled later in the week.

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by Keith Quinn on Jan 24, 2011 9:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This is a wrapup of the week, so Lawson played in BP before getting hurt.

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by Mark D on Jan 24, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Web, out of the college guys...

…which are seniors or will have a legidimate shot at making the team next year?

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by Bryan2112 on Jan 24, 2011 11:40 AM EST reply actions  

More importantly

Are there any impending college FAs that the Isles have any hope of signing?

by AP77 on Jan 24, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Was thinking

That anyone would be an improvement over Reese/Gervais.

by AP77 on Jan 24, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

No

Toronto will overpay/outbid everyone for them all, then thrust them on to their first line.

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by Dominik on Jan 24, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

All of the guys we might actually want are not seniors

Donovan is a soph. I believe. Gregoire is a junior. Anders Lee & Brock Nelson are Freshmen. Kessel, Ness, & Trivino are all juniors too I believe. Someone could leave early but I don’t think any of them would be considered likely to jump right in first year pro.

You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?

by Anarcurt on Jan 24, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Donny is a a Sophmore, but since he played in the USHL for a year after the Isles drafted him, he will no longer be Isles property after his junior year if he doesn’t sign. I honestly don’t know what Lee’s eligibility is since he’s 20 but its his first year. Usually in the past the NCAA gives those guys three years instead of the normal four since they began so late, but I don’t know what Lee’s specific case is.

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by David Hanssen on Jan 24, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't know that

Very good to know. I think Donovan could step in pretty quick. Ideally a year in AHL at least would get him used to the tougher sched & players but his offensive game seems to translate well in to the post lock-out NHL. He seems to cheat in on plays without getting burned. He couldn’t be worse than Reese or Chef.

You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?

by Anarcurt on Jan 24, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

The Isles/Kessel need to make a decision this year because of the same thing I said about Donny. Kessel played 1 year in the USHL after drafted then on to the NCAA. If he doesn’t sing this off season he becomes a free agent per the CBA:

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by David Hanssen on Jan 24, 2011 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Lee is three years, or a fourth if they make the ol' "bona fide" offer?
If a Player who is drafted for the first time as a 19-year-old ceases to play in the Juniors in the first League Year after he has been drafted, his Club shall have exclusive right of negotiation for his services until the third June 1 following his initial selection in the Entry Draft. His selecting Club may retain exclusive rights of negotiation for a fourth year by tendering the Player a Bona Fide Offer in accordance with 8.6(a)(ii), provided that such Bona Fide Offer may be made at any time prior to the third June 1 following his initial selection in the Entry Draft.

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by Dominik on Jan 24, 2011 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

(That was under the juniors section, not the college section)

I can’t parse through that stuff to figure out if former juniors who become “bona fide college students” are governed by the “former juniors” area or the “College Students” area.

I hate the CBA.

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by Dominik on Jan 24, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

CBA = Suck

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by David Hanssen on Jan 24, 2011 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

BTW

With Lee I’m not worrying about the time till rights expire, it was more whether the NCAA would allow him to play four years or he looses a year of eligibility since he was in the USHL for so long.

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by David Hanssen on Jan 24, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

A prospect of not reporting to the Islanders.

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by David Hanssen on Jan 24, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Good Job Webby as always. Always fun to see how the kids are doing without having to go through numerous websites and such. Thanks for these updates.

The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.

by OzzyFan on Jan 24, 2011 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

How Good is Lee?

Botta keeps characterizing him as a depth player, but geez, all this kid does is score, first at the USHL where he starred last year and now at Notre Dame. Isn’t that goal total very high for Notre Dame, especially a first year player? I thought Notre Dame plays a very defense-oriented style that results in artificially low goal totals for prospects.

by rmblifn on Jan 25, 2011 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

Obviously Lee is still a few years away, but

He’s twice been named Rookie of the Month
He is tied for the lead in goals for ND
Third in Points for ND with 28
His point total is good enough for Seventh in the CCHA
As of right now ND has 107 total goals to give you some prospective

I think it’s because Lee is a two way player with a big body, if your not paying close attention to how his seasons going your missing out on how good he’s been.

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by Mark D on Jan 25, 2011 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Lee is one of Garth's gem picks and that bugs Botta

Doesn’t want to give him credit for anything. He really is in a bad place. Losing more respect for him all the time.

by BCISLEMAN on Jan 25, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

No, I've Been Paying Attention Stat-Wise, But...

Despite the stats, he still gets lumped in with 3rd liners, and depth players. My question was if anyone saw him play, live or even on TV, how does he look? Like a guy who’ll continue to score at the next level? Exceptional hands? Fast, good skater? Sees the ice well? Or one of those guys capable of scoring in college or the AHL but where he’ll tap out because he doesn’t have another gear in terms of skill level.

by rmblifn on Jan 25, 2011 2:13 AM EST reply actions  

well, at least he has the lower gears

You don’t normally make NHL scorers out of guys who can’t find the net against lesser goalies and defenders. At the very least, Lee is showing a lot of promise in that regard. Isles may have themselves another steal. One can only hope, anyway.

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by mikb on Jan 25, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

and I find myself more and more optimistic about Kabanov

No bad news and he is doing very well defensively. Wings were able to vastly increase Federov’s value by training him to be a great defensive player as well. That may be one thing that happens to Kirill that absolutely transforms his value as well.

by BCISLEMAN on Jan 25, 2011 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

from your lips to the Hockey Gods' ears, eh?

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by mikb on Jan 25, 2011 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

he seems to be willing to work hard and pay his dues

and is getting the job done. Hopefully he can at least get 9 games at the start of next season and we can get an idea where he is at.

by BCISLEMAN on Jan 25, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

AHL All Star game

Hey Webby, I apologize if this was brought up already but who does Bridgeport have representing them in the AHL allstar game?

by mdelbags on Jan 26, 2011 12:00 PM EST reply actions  

Rhett Rakhshani

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by Dominik on Jan 27, 2011 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

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May 24, 1980: Tonelli to Nystrom. At long last, the steady build of the New York Islanders from expansion doormat to surprise semifinalist to annual contender reaches the promised land: Buoyed by a late season trade for Butch Goring that gave the team the depth up the middle GM Bill Torrey had been seeking, the Islanders knock off the Philadelphia Flyers in six games.

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