Potential Tradeable Players for the NY Islanders
Players that the Islanders could move at the trade deadline
At this point in the season, it is safe to say that the Islanders are going to miss the playoffs yet again. With the trade deadline approaching, I would like to take this opportunity to go down the Islander roster and pick a few potential players that could be traded by the Islanders come trade deadline.
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Matt Moulson: If the Islanders have no intentions of signing Moulson to a long term deal this summer, or if the current negotiations (assuming they are going on) do not work out as Snow and Wang want them to, then Moulson is probably the most tradeable asset the Islanders have at this point. He is a good goal scorer who is willing to pay the price in front of the net and is likely attractive for a number of teams struggling to score goals and unwilling to pay a big price for a goal scorer. I personally hope that he stays as it would send the message that Snow and Wang want to pay to keep players on the team.
Blake Comeau: He is currently on one of his surges and is the most tradeable asset after Moulson. In fact, this may be the best time for Snow to pull the trigger on a trade for Comeau because it is still possible to see Comeau lapse into one of his scoring droughts (as experienced earlier this season). His contract expires at the end of this season, meaning that he could be a good rental for a contender looking for some depth. Whether the Islanders decide to sign him or not is yet to be seen.
Rob Schremp: We all know that he is a solid player and has been a nice addition to this team, but his defensive game has always been lacking and the Islanders are currently have a jam at the center position. It is unlikely for him to be one of the centerpieces of this rebuild. He could probably fetch a draft pick or 2.
Jesse Joensuu: He has been wildly inconsistent and mostly ineffective on the Island and is likely to have a long term career in the NHL. With all the up and coming talent the Islanders have in Bridgeport, it is unlikely that they resign Joensuu in the summer. It might be more convenient and productive to trade him for a draft pick (2nd or 3rd round) or add him to a Comeau or Schremp trade package.
Trent Hunter: Trent Hunter is no longer a big piece of the Islanders rebuild. He was great rookie many years ago and is a decent veteran presence on the team, but he is no longer getting the job done for this team. Snow might try to sell the idea to other GMs that this guy needs a fresh start and package him in a trade for either a good veteran player, or more draft picks.
Frans Nielsen: Let me preface this by saying that this is a long shot. But if the Islanders are looking to get a top player, such as a Parise or a Semin (assuming they'd sign), the Islanders will have to trade away a top player. Nielsen is probably the best all around Islander, but in Garth's eyes, is more dispensable than Tavares, Bailey, or Okposo. As aforementioned, it is a long shot and I personally don't want it to happen.
Defensemen
Jack Hillen:Jack Hillen was a great surprise last season, but has been inconsistent throughout this season. With the emergence of Hamonic and McDonald, the resigning of Jurcina, the year left for both Mottau and Eaton, and the eventual return of Streit, Hillen may find himself out of the top 6 for next season (this is without considering the possibility of De Haan joining the team next year and the possibility of drafting Laarson in June). Hillen is still young and could be a good asset for another young team looking for a good defenseman and could make for a good trade if packaged with a Comeau or Schremp.
Bruno Gervais: Whether or not Bruno is attractive to any trading partners is still a mystery. What is not a mystery is that Bruno is not in the long term future of this team's defense. Gervais has slowly dropped down the depth charts and faces even greater difficulty than HIllen at cracking the team next year. He could probably fetch a 3rd round draft pick.
Dylan Reese: Another defenseman losing favor due to the emergence of the youth on the club. Reese is only on the roster at the moment due to the numerous injuries. The Islanders are unlikely to trade all of the aforementioned defensemen (because they'll need depth in the case there are more injuries next year), but it is unlikely that all of them stay on the team. Like Gervais, Reese could fetch a decent draft pick.
Radek Martinek: As stated above, the Islanders have a pretty good foundation set for their top 6 defensemen next season. Martinek may be the most attractive trading asset that the islanders have at Defense because of his good skill and his age. Martinek is one of the better defensive defensemen on this team and is often on the ice to take on the other team's top line, but he may no longer be necessary on this team with the emergence of McDonald and Hamonic. His contract expires at the end of the season and may instead be a valuable asset for a depth-seeking contender. Furthermore, his injury history makes him a high risk player and potentially a liability. Because the Islanders may still want some depth at the D position, this may still be a stretch.
The Islanders' only goaltender that is tradeable is probably Kevin Poulin, but it is unlikely that they move him. I wouldn't mind seeing them move Rick DiPietro, but his contract and injury-prone history is likely to make that next to impossible.
I would like to emphasize that this is only my opinion. Please feel free to disagree. I'd love to hear what other people think.
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This is my opinion
I would like to emphasize that this is only my opinion. Please feel free to disagree. I’d love to here what other people think.
Nice post, David. Welcome aboard and thanks for joining.
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On Joensuu
“trade him for a draft pick (2nd or 3rd round)”
If we only got a 2nd for Wiz, Guerin (3rd actually) and Sutton, there is no way we can get that for Joensuu. More like a 5th. It would be better to try to sign him to a two-way again and hope he can continue to grow, provide depth, or help the BPT develop. Same goes for Gervais. We will probably not get anything of significant value for guys that we don’t value on this team unless they are part of a package of picks or with BC, MM, FN or RSH. The only players likely to get us anything substantial in return (in a 1 for one move or picks) would be Moulson and Nielsen IMO. I think anyone else, you are looking at 3rd round or below.
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I might suggest not offering him a contract at all. With cizikas, de haan, and more players joining the ahl team next year, we may need his roster spot open a lot more then we would to give a 24yr old "prospect"
more time to mature from a 4th liner to a salvagable middle 6er.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
It's possible
But BPT is pretty awful right now also. There are plenty of other players to cut from there before JJ. It will probably be a matter of whether or not anyone else offers him a one way or a better 2 way. (Which I can’t see). I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go back to Europe though.
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by Keith Quinn on Jan 19, 2011 8:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Also
Hunter is out for the year. No one will trade for him at the deadline if he can’t help immediately…also considering his decline in play and potential loss of speed (?) from the injury, he’d be a real gamble for 4 mil over 2 seasons.
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Konopka
I think Konopka is the only player missing on your list that is a possibility to be traded. His face-off ability could make him a good candidate for a 3rd or 4th line centre for someone in a pinch.
I can see Martinek realistically being the only d-man being traded, provided he is healthy until then. I don’t see a lot more action than that.
I actually can see Konopka too
but hope not, he is a good 4th line C with an extra bonus faceoff ability
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by Rickfansince76 on Jan 18, 2011 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Somebody out there is interested in him, I believe it is the Sharks, but I can’t point a finger as to where I saw that {it’s someone reputable}.
Would probably generate more draft choices, but the Sharks are active right now as they are in trouble of sinking again out west.
In terms of the Islanders – I don’t see them as being too busy as the trade deadline comes, they need to concentrate on signing Moulson first in my opinion.
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I wouldn't deal konopka for anything less then a 2nd, and even then I think he's worth more to our future team for many yrs as a multi-tooled locker room loved 4th liner.
I’d be really sad if he wasn’t resigned for a few years after this season. But I wouldn’t take anything less then a 2nd rounder for him.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
A lot of people understand the value of great role players, and konopka is a great role-playing 4th liner(fighting, faceoffs, physical presence, agitating, team player, pk a bit)
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
I agree he would be great to keep around
a 4th liner that has any offnsive skills is someone to keep around, and he has faceoff skills. he also seems to understand whennot to drop the gloves, which I love ina 4th liner
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by Rickfansince76 on Jan 19, 2011 8:30 AM EST up reply actions
Reese has no trade value
If no one would pick him off waivers for free they are not going to trade for him. JJ has next to no value IMO. Hunter, even if he returns before March (he is skating now), is overpriced with no production this season.
Martinek might not be as tradable due to the latest injury but is the most expendable. I’m not sure we re-sign Martinek anyway (age, made of glass). He’s not going to get you a 2nd rounder like Wiz but I could see a situation where he goes for a late 3rd.
Moulson has the most value but it really sends the wrong message to fans and players if he gets traded. I believe this collateral damage makes his move a last resort if they cannot sign him before the trade deadline.
Comeau could be a good ‘sell high’ trade as he is streaking. I would prefer a prospect to more picks as this moves the rebuild backwards but something could be done there.
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by Anarcurt on Jan 18, 2011 1:53 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Same thoughts on Reese. More telling is he’s been through re-entry waivers twice this year without takers. If no one wanted him at half salary without giving anything up, who would trade something for him?
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by David Hanssen on Jan 18, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with everything.
And what the hell would we even get for moulson if we had him on the trade block? Anything that’s not a top 10 1st round draft pick for a 30goal scorer like him is an underpayment. He’s got to be worth at least a playoff team’s 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks one would think, right? Either way, we need moulson a lot more then we need picks, and if garth got rid of him after the statement he made, I’d lose all faith in garth’s decisions going forward.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
Martinek and Moulson
These two are the strong candidates whose candidacy scare me. Moulson because even if the Isles are seeing his two “best” years goalscoring-wise he’s still a solid all-around hockey player who’s worth keeping. Martinek because (if healthy at the time) he might be the most attractive for a contender looking to load up for a long playoff run.
Both are in that UFA/rental price point where I could picture Snow cashing them in. However, while I was a fan of both the Wiz and Roloson offloads (and Sutton last year, too), I see Moulson and Martinek as still nice pieces to keep for the next two-three years. Martinek carries the obvious health question mark, but still, at the right price…
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The martinek thing is interesting. I read or heard recently somewhere that he just recently was able to feel his wrist again from that chara shot. Forgot where I heard it though, but that is not good news.
With what martinek has gone through this season already, on the verge of a 60gm season(little over/right around the average of his career), and at 34yrs of age, it’s going to be interesting if this team will bother offering him a contract. I’m serious. If we didn’t offer Jackman, Bergenheim, Park, or Sutton contracts, why in the heck would we offer radek one with what’s happened to him lately at his age, and over his career?(unless at some low low $1mil/yr contract. Especially given what we’ve seen happen to sutton this year, and witt the past few years. Most old d-men come with baggage.). Going to be very interesting to see how that situation plays out.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
Some thoughts
Schremp isn’t getting traded. He’s been one of the few bright spots and more importantly is basically cost controlled for the next 2-3 years. You add in his newish role as QB of the power play, he’s too valuable to give up right now. Maybe in a couple of years when he’s looking for a pay raise, developed his game better and guys like Nelson, Lee and Cizikas are vying for the center spots from him, then he might be moved and for more than what he would fetch now.
Hillen/Gervais/Reese, first off I wouldn’t trade Hillen or Gervais right now. They’re finally playing a whole lot better than earlier in the season when they were abysmal yet their value is probably as low as it can be. Gervais, since he’s a UFA, might be trade bait but I doubt a contender would add him. I also wouldn’t totally give up on Hillen quite yet. Most defenders go through a sophomore slump and regain their form the following year. He’s also relatively young (27 next week) so there’s room for hope. Reese has been through waivers and reentry waivers multiple times this year with no takers. If someone didn’t want to add him at half salary without having to give up something, highly unlikely he’d get traded for a bag of used hockey pants.
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I think the Isles already traded the most likely at the deadline guys, they just did it way before the deadline.
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Agreed
Any of the current roster members that don’t belong in the AHL really can’t be traded, we need them! Moulson cannot be traded if the Isles are serious about turning this thing around in the next couple of years, Garth knows that. It might be scary but we actually need BC and RSH. Like Moulson, Frans isn’t going anywhere, he is probably our best all around player. Hunter is terrible, JJ is just as bad but dare I say, has more potential?? I don’t see anyone wanting either of those two guys.
Eventually Garth his just going to have to land us a whale of a UFA!
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by NYI_22 on Jan 18, 2011 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Comeau and Martinek
Comeau is hot, and having his most consistent season, but I think with KO and Nino coming they try and trade him
Martinek, is playing great, but he has had some tough years health wise and they could seek to get something for him, and with De Haan coming and Wishart, plus Streit coming back, Jurcina and Amac signed, Hamonic playing well he becomes trade bait
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Comeau is hot, and having his most consistent season, but I think with KO and Nino coming they try and trade him
You might be right…but I sure hope not! Comeau, despite his warts, is an asset that should be kept. As far as replacements go, I bet Nino doesn’t deliver what Comeau delivers right now for minimum 2-3 years. I think dealing Comeau would be just back to square one.
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would rather trade him for a vet while his value is maxed out
and I think you will be surprised at how soon Nino gets to be a consistent 40-50 point guy.
I wonder how many people think Comeau could be a solid 3rd liner?
And if so, would rather Comeau over PAP in a 3rd line role? I like comeau, but if we could only keep 1 of them next year, I wouldn’t know who to pick.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
I like Comeau. He does some stupid/lazy shit, but he's a good player.
I think he might one of those “I ROCK THE POST SEASON” types too, as he seems to enjoy recognition…not sure why I think that, I just do.
PAP, I believe, is making a statement this season. As the team gets better, his role diminishes. This is his best shot at showing what he can bring.
In the end, I think BC has more value.
Hunter not tradeable with injury
I would have said him if he was healthy, he has to come back first and then he needs to go
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When will we have enough picks???
I absolutely hate the idea that you HAVE to get something for an UFA. I would rather keep PU and Marti than get a 5th round pick because this team should try to win as many games as possible and they are not doing that with 5th round picks. They have a core, enough with the picks, they need to gain a winning mentality.
Tavares – Nino – Okposo – Moulson – Bailey – Comeau – Nielsen – Martin – Hamonic – Streit – DeHaan – MacDonald – Poulin – Couturier. There’s your core.
Schremp – Rhakshaini – Hillen – Cizikas – Lee – Nelson – Koiskinin – Wishart – Petrov – Kabanov. These are the second tier and likely better than anything we will ever get for Marti/Parenteau picks. Absolutely no need for more picks, it’s getting redundant. It’s time to start winning.
I'd say that's too crowded for a core
A core is something like 6-8 guys, who would be really hard to replace. Tavares, Okposo, Moulson, Frans, Bailey, Streit, and MacDonald are your current core. Hamonic, Poulin, Cizikas, Nino, and de Haan may be future core (Hamonic is already important) but it’s going to take time.
Then you have guys who are important but could be replaced at need.
You have depth guys you can get anywhere.
You have replacement guys you’re paying just to field an intact team, and whom you hope to replace as soon as possible.
You have prospects, which may become any of the above.
I think the idea behind another pick is the chance that you can hit a jackpot, and turn one of those replacement guys into a stud. ONE fourth-rounder is not worth a guy like Parenteau, for example… but take ten shots with that kind of a pick and you luck into a player who’s better than Parenteau could ever hope to be. It’s an aggregate strategy rather than an immediate fix, and when you’re rebuilding it makes sense to take the ten shots rather than the ten mediocre-to-serviceable players you started with. You’re always hoping to lessen your dependence on those guys. If it works out, score! If not, it costs nothing because you can always plug that hole on the waiver wire or in free agency, and be no worse off. Teams waive Parenteaus all the time, and they very rarely turn out to be the Next Big Thing.
PS – Couturier is NOBODY’s core, unless it’s his junior team. I can dig the excitement about our own prospects, though it’s probably premature to put them into our current core… but Couturier isn’t even drafted yet!
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lol, I didn't even realize he had already drafted couturier. And agreed. Way way too early to put prospects into our team core right now.
Only players “right now” that I’d say are important “not-really dealable” core players are: JT, KO, Bailey, A-mac, and Hamonic. Might even put Moulson and Nielsen(if we can resign him longterm in there, but that’s it. Poulin is likely undealable too, but he’s different.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
ABSOLUTELY
I absolutely hate the idea that you HAVE to get something for an UFA. I would rather keep PU and Marti than get a 5th round pick because this team should try to win as many games as possible and they are not doing that with 5th round picks. They have a core, enough with the picks, they need to gain a winning mentality.
Fans don’t pay for season tickets to see Dylan Reese and 5th round picks…
The team has built up their system from nothing, now they need to start building a tradition of WINNING!!!
They can still grow with a pick in every round… and we already have more than that in the 2011.
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This is very true
however, remember our system is was left pretty barren. We are actually still drafting to acquire depth as well as develop NHL caliber guys. We are actually close now, but what would be nice is when Anders Lee is legitimately in BPT and there is talk of him being Bailey or Nielsen’s replacement after the trade that lands us our “missing piece” for a cup run. Nyntwun is right though, unless we are getting 2nd round or above for anyone, it is a waste to make trades for picks at this point. Our guys are either a) more useful than anything below a 2nd rounder would be able to do for at least 4 years, or b) not developed enough to be useful yet.
Unless you can somehow talk someone into giving me 3rds for Reese, Joensuu and Colliton…then I’m all ears.
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Marty...
and I’ll add that I am not pro trading Marty.
Welcome to the community Mr Salazar. Here are my thoughts on the subject…
Moulson: I feel they are close to a 3YR extension on Matt. Trading him without exploring every option to keep him would be a move of milbury-esque proportions.
Comeau: Getting rid of him now would be another milbury-esque mistake. He has been tossed from environment to environment, doghouse to doghouse… and he finally at 25 has found a comfortable corner. He’s a top scorer from a middle six position on the team… and that INCLUDES a 20 game slump. He’s also an RFA, making him a cheap option… Given the teams problems on the FA market I wouldn’t be surprised if Blake earns a 3YR deal with a solid second half. Blake Comeau is an Islander next year if I am GM.
Schremp: He makes some sense… but NEVER NEVER NEVER for a draft pick. Why trade a productive commodity for another question mark. He’s also an RFA, so he could be qualified for as little as $850K… and I’m pretty sure another team would fill out the offer sheet for a guy like Schremp if the proce was a third round draft pick… (I think that’s the under $1M asking price)… so Garth might even qualify him at over that just… RSH still has upside and is contributing to the team.. and “JAM” at the center position… really? we have one down due to injury and were forced to bring up Jeremy Colliton… When you have Zeke and Jeremy on your active roster you do not have a JAM… and there is NOBODY in BPT. The JAM is two to four years away when we might see Casey, Anders and Brock.
Joensuu: Really… for what? Why?… who? Jesse probably doesn’t even get qualified this off season because the smaller Rhett is a better option on that side… and next year might be Ullstrom’s audition year. Jesse has done well not to discredit his reputation at the NHL level, but he didn’t really have one to begin with. You show me somebody that will give up a 3rd rounder for a guy who isn’t making an impact in this lineup and I’ll show you a GM that will be doing cameo’s on NHL Live next year as his main gig.
Hunter: You find a GM that will take on his contract (fair price if he produced up to his potential) for a guy with his recent injury history and Snow should send him a case of 12 year old scotch along with the 30 year old canadian.
Nielsen: (not directed at you personally, but…) F**K YOU and the Milbury book you read on how to build a team. “If you want to get a quality player…” HA… Frans Nielsen is, and has been, the BEST VALUE in the NHL for 2+ years. He has worked in 3 systems, and HIS VALUE doesn’t fluctuate. Right now he has the added value of being dirt cheap on a budget roster… but after next year Garth Snow needs to anti-up. Even if there is a “jam” at center, there is not a JAM in the Frans Nielsen position.
On defense, Jack and Bruno are cheap to keep, and won’t fetch any value because of said inconsistencies. Their existence as Islanders will not depend on their value in the open market, but probably on their willingness to take two-way contracts. Next year there might be a carousel of defenders in and out of the Islanders’ lineup. That may include Wishart, Katic, CDH and Kohn… but I think I am not alone in not wanting to see Dylan Reese… and getting rid of BOTH of these guys means that possibility may exist. We are probably going to lose Marty. Did you suggest they trade Dylan Reese… The only reason Reese is even up is because Bridgeport doesn’t want him
Like Gervais, Reese could fetch a decent draft pick.
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Martinek: His future depends on Snows confidence that he can get 60 games out of Marty for the next two years. That’s the max length I think any team will give him. Marty is a top four defender, but quite fragile. He will have good value at the deadline as an expiring assett. 3rd/or conditional 2nd round draft pick shouldn’t be out of the question. If snow can make a deal to keep him here for at least a year, but no more than two years he’s worth more than an extra dart this summer. Especially with a young core of defenders moving in.
Somebody you didn’t mention…
Calvin DeHaan: I wonder if Snow could get a late first, and two seconds for him. I’m kind of digging Andy Mac’s PPG production recently and if we can package some of that with our own top five to guarentee larsson…
Okay… just kidding…hmmm… wait a second… nah… just kidding.
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by JPinVA on Jan 18, 2011 5:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Should have read this
before I posted my above…we are on the same page on most of these! Unfortunately, I think BPT will continue to be a little light because some of these guys won’t sign 2-ways here. (God knows where they’ll go to get a one way?) But, in the next couple of seasons, there will actually be competition for spots throughout the system, then we can deal from strength, get a better grip on contract negotiations, fill out the roster holes nicely, and have some depth in case (haha) of injury.
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PA Parentau
I would think they’d rather keep Moulson long term. Probably deal Parentau as Nino will probably get that spot next season (hard to belive I’m already thinking about october and basball hasn’t even started yet).
But there’s so many conditions that have to be met right now to really hone in on anything right now.
Lots of "What ifs" depend on a trade
I think if there is NO chance on resigning a player and you get an offer for said player. You get as much as you can for a player. Even if it’s for a 5th round pick. Not that the pending 5th rounder is going to make a big difference … but what it does is give you more options.
If you use that 5th round pick there is always a chance you draft a Matt Martin. It’s nothing but leverage getting that extra pick. I know a 5th round pick isn’t a huge return for a veteran even with limited NHL experience, but it’s something. That 5th round pick can also be used to move up in the draft … or even part of a package to acquire another player … as in the Wiz deal. Look how many picks we’ve moved the last few years.
I’m not sure which players are most tradeable … but Garth has to decide between now and the All-Star game which players he’s going to extend … and which ones he’s going to move and use the games between the AS break and the deadline as a showcase for those players to max their value. There’s always a risk that value can drop too.
I don’t want to even speculate who is going to resign, who Garth is going to be able to draft and which players he trades for at this time to help out next season. We tend to put everything in a best scenario category, and don’t manage our expectations. That leads to disappointment. I will say this though. It is time for Garth to AMP up the re-build. No more baby steps. It’s time to go from a quick walk to a jog … and then the following off season an all out sprint.
by 19 Isle in NJ 22 on Jan 18, 2011 10:05 PM EST reply actions
Ahhhh ....
why in the world would Snow trade young prospects for younger ones? none of the trades would make sense. Honestly, we could get no more than a third rounder for any vets ( Roli and Wiz were traded wisely ) by the deadline. So what would be the point.
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Lots of Moulson Trade Talk
Buccigross on Twitter has him going to Boston. MacKenzie on Twitter says he may be traded, but not to Boston. Personally, I’m gonna be p—d if he does get dealt. Garth and Matty’s agent have to get a reasonable contract done that gives Moulson the raise and years he deserves as a solid 25-30 goal guy ($3.3 for 5?) but leaves enough in the budget for all these other high end picks over the next 3-4 years so Isles don’t become the Hawks.
As for Marty, gotta go. He’s been a good foot soldier through some of this team’s worst years but he’s 34 and injury prone so no way I would re-sign him. At this point in his career, he deserves to go to Washington, Boston, etc., whichever contender might need him for a long playoff run.
Agree completely about moulson. If moulson goes, our rebuild takes a big step back imo. Good 25-30+goalscorers are very very hard to replace.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
Not sure on the price but some notable examples
Take RJ Umberger. LW, 29 years old, mid 20’s in goals the last couple of seasons. He’s making 3.75MM/yr. Rene Bourque is making $4.00MM the next 4 years (and it tails off a bit the final 2) and he is mid 20’s in goals and 29 y/o.
Moulson is 27 and should have another 20+ goal season under his belt by the end of the season. 3 years $4 million should be a fair offer. It might not be a good spot to offer too many years as we might need some flexibility in the future.
You mean to tell me shooting the puck from 70 feet out doesn't earn us extra goals?
I think that's a bit high for moulson. Bourque is a fast 2-way player and Umberger is a 2-way player that racks up assists(something moulson doesn't). Not to mention both are also bigger. Moulson is realistically worth tops $3.5mil/yr in a multi-year deal
, anything more is probably overpaying him. Yes he can score goals, but aside from that he’s pretty average all around. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but average all-around doesn’t equal more money when you are a good goal scorer.
The Isles future looks brighter then most would think with these young core guys in place:
Tavares, Okposo, Bailey, Nielsen, Niederreiter, Grabner, MacDonald, Hamonic, and DeHaan.
As God is my witness,
after 20 years of suffering trading Moulson might be enough to push me over the top.
Moulson
Moulson was an unexpected, but certainly welcome, piece of the Islanders’ rebuilding puzzle. I agree with others that it would be a very poor move if the Islanders were to trade him anytime soon, and I think that Snow and Wang feel the same way.
That being said, I believe that signing Moulson to a new contract is a top priority for the Isles, and I wouldn’t be surprised if a deal is struck before the end of the regular season. With Moulson, the Isles have to make a strong, yet fair offer. I think that Moulson would like to remain an Islander, considering what I’ve read, but the team needs to make a good contract offer.
Comeau
Most of these guys will fetch nothing…esp Hunts who is injured. A lot of people here are in love with RSH. I am not. He’s going to have to show something more to get re-signed and I don’t see another team offering much for him. If someone offered a third rounder, go for it. Frans I am thinking more and more the Isles should keep. There would have to be a pretty unbelievable offer on the table to move Moulson. Don’t see Martinek fetching enough on the trading block to justify moving him with all of our injuries on defense. Comeau, as I have said, I would like to move for a veteran forward like Samuelsson who is under contract through next summer.
until next week, when BC>>>>RSH
…and back n forth they go, when consistency starts nobody knows.
"Seriously that's the last time you guys f#@%ing won?" -RSH (about beating the Penguins in '93)
by Bryan2112 on Jan 22, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs

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