About Last Night: Half-informed Islanders notes on a half-watched half-squad game
I haven't given last night's "A Team" half-squad Islanders scrimmage preseason "game" against the three-fourths Flames squad a thorough viewing, but I've watched enough of it to start the conversation and issue half-informed observations based on nothing more than a few camp scrimmages and one rusty preseason night in Saskatoon.
Short version: Marti is back* (with usual asterisks). Wiz is nice. RSH played smart. DP still does too much. Nino is not my top Isles forward candidate to win an NHL job, and Calvin de Haan will one day be as silky smooth as advertised. Long version (and links) after the jump.
Isles-Flyers Links
First, some links on the Flyers game, in which Philly dressed almost their full team and stormed to a 3-0 lead before letting off the gas and (reportedly) letting the Islanders control the third. Their perspective: Broad Street Hockey recap | CSN | phillyburbs. And the Isles official recap is here. Pretty much every report I saw or heard (Flyers announcers) praised Dwayne Roloson's work despite three goals against.
Isles-Flames Links
In Saskatoon, Rick DiPietro was described as what I would call pedestrian -- an overplay costing him the third goal -- while Mikko Koskinen looked good in the third. Isles official site recap | Herald: Isles look past injuries | Herald recap: All about the Flames | Standard wire recap
Player Notes
Now, about those players. As conceded above, I gave this game a rushed viewing, skipping over large chunks and focusing only on lines I was keen to watch. So let me hear your rebuttals, corrections, and general complaints about car insurance:
Rob Schremp Hockey -- Maybe the most impressive Isles forward last night? Schremp used his sublime hands to make smart hockey plays -- stuff like keeping the puck in the zone, getting it in deep. All those little things that keep average shifts from becoming bad ones, those little things that super-skilled players don't always do because they are accustomed to stickhandling their way out of sticky situations. I dare say the evolution of Rob Schremp: Hockey Player continues, and thanks to the Oilers we are getting his walking upright with opposable thumbs years.
P.A. Parenteau -- I really wish he didn't have Jeff Tambellini's old number. He was not a factor in the stretches I saw him with John Tavares and Blake Comeau (although I didn't see every shift). While he can be a big help on the powerplay, it's hard to see him being a key part of their top scoring line at this point. I feel like JT needs more help than that. Still, camp is young.
Radek Martinek -- Remember the whole "most underrated D-man ... when healthy" rap? Well, it's back. The man was smooth, calm, graceful and smart under pressure. Yet again. For the life of me I don't know how he does it with a body that is held together by surgeries, but Martinek was the Martinek I remember (when healthy*) last night. He even did some powerplay time, which is also the Martinek I remember way back when. If -- and it's always IF -- he can keep another joint from blowing up and another bone from breaking this year, the Islanders will have an overall better blueline than they had last season, even without Mark Streit. (I know...IF.)
James WIsniewski -- He and Andrew MacDonald looked a little ... a little like they need more time together. But each was individually good. Wiz brings many things to the table, as already advertised. A-Mac looked like he is picking up right where he left off last season, which is a terrific sign.
Nino Niederreiter -- He's just so young. During an early powerplay, a Flames player threw the subtlest of mid-ice hip check picks on Nino, causing him to fall and create an offside call. It was one of those things that is technically an interference penalty, but which an NHL pro does covertly and gets away with, and which an NHL pro in Nino's shoes would see coming.
Nino still looks like he's figuring out how this whole thing works at this level, but his raw assets are apparent. When ready, his body is hard to knock down (when not, well, he's an easy mark). He goes to the net by instinct. I've no idea whether a player of his age and greenliness can put it together in such a short time to be a help to the Islanders -- and to be fair, we've seen some scrimmages and a split-squad game. But, well, not to flog my own opinion repeatedly, I don't see much point in rushing 18-year-olds to the NHL, especially when you consider how difficult this suddenly Streit- and Okposo-less season now appears. Also, especially when...
You have Rhett Rakhshani -- Rhett continues to look like a guy who has four additional years of hockey under his belt, a living example of someone who played four years of college rather than someone who is just stepping out of his first year or two in junior. He handles the puck with poise, he gets through spaces and situations when a hungry opponent thinks the size mismatch will determine the play. I liked him again last night, and I could see him helping the Islanders in a pinch now, although I'd be quite happy to see him be an asset in Bridgeport. All of these kids probably need more time at levels where they can score rather than nights in the NHL where they come up empty but "gave a good effort."
You also have David Ullstrom -- In the parlance of our times, he has already "played with men" in Sweden. It shows. More so than Rhett, he appears to still need some adjustments to the NHL game, but he also displays the raw presence and hockey sense where I bet he would pick it up quickly. He played some wing in Sweden too, so I could see him filling a role on the Isles now if necessary. Regardless, with both Rhett and Ullstrom, if they don't make the club they should be very helpful to Bridgeport. Rhett [ack, I meant to say ULLSTROM] could be Bridgeport's Frans Nielsen.
Matt Martin, Zenon Konopka, Trevor Gillies -- I don't ever want to see this as a checking line sent against the opponents' best line, however this line looks like it could cause some delightful ruckus. Gillies is of course the weakest 5-on-5 link on the line, but together with Martin's mobility and Konopka's hockey sense (and faceoff acumen) they just might hold their own against bottom-six lines while also providing that eternally ambiguous yet valued hockey trait known as "scaring the crap out of the other team." Even on nights when the injury-depleted Islanders just don't have it this season, there will be blood entertainment. Might as well call this the "Fan Favorite Line" whenever it is together.
James Wisniewski -- We saw his shot from the point, we saw his mobility and his physicality in blips here and there. I don't know how many tiers of defensemen there are within the NHL spectrum -- from Pronger-style do-it-all to the rudimentary #7 guy who "does okay against bottom lines." But you can tell Wisniewski is closer to the upper tiers than to the bottom ones. A welcome addition.
Calvin de Haan -- He scored, smartly jumping in down low on the PP to convert the rebound of an RSH shot. He has poise with the puck, which he's always shown. He's bigger than last year. If you rated the spectrum of our hopes for him from 1 to 100, I'm now certain he'll be in the upper 50 percent. I just don't know if his powerplay hands are enough to compensate for a still-developing body and overall game at this level, particularly when keeping him would mean leaping 8 NHL defensemen and Travis Hamonic.
Your thoughts? If you DVR'd the game, feel free to come back into this thread later on after you've watched it.
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Not only but also: Chris Botta reports that Kirill Petrov has been traded to a less-veteran-dependent KHL team. The usual suspects haven't posted this news yet, so I assume it came from Petrov's agent, who Botta quotes as saying this is a good move for Petrov. At least the boy will get to play (we hope). He goes from a powerhouse in Ak Bars to a middle-of-the-rest team in Yugra.
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Hamonic and Joensuu fought yesterday. Wow.
Both surprising, Hamonic was a question for the game with a shoulder injury, and is Joensuu finally taking up fighting to help his chances of making the team? Very interesting. According to stuff I’ve read, both fights were draws but I’m not sure how reliable the sources are.
Other then that, Everybody looks where they are supposed to be from Dom’s words and the audio feeds I heard. Nothing really surprising from my perspective, business as expected/usual.
Go isles or Go home.
Found vid links:
Hamonic goes draw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KIhRqyandE
Joensuu with a slight loss. He’s got the body to fight and enforce in the nhl, but definitely not the fighting skills/heart yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xav2CNHqBU
Go isles or Go home.
Hamonic is getting a reputation as a “game” competitor… I think we’re gonna like him for a looooooong time.
Jesse, on the other hand, needs to spend some time with uncle Trevor. Jesse was answering the bell, but that’s not how he’s going to make the team. He can ignore the bell and look towards the light…
Forget about the LHP, BKLYN, Queens or Hamilton... Wang is moving the Islanders to The Nassau University Medical Center.
At least Jesse bled on him, I guess
What a typical NHL fight-by-numbers. (“You have wronged me, now we drop the gloves, now we throw some punches, now we bear hug.”) I like that JJ stood up for himself after being checked from behind.
Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo were important to this team.
Thanks for posting those
I guess Hamonic was responding to an elbow?
Man, that Flyers announcer always reminds me of a more nasally Brent Musberger, if that’s possible.
Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo were important to this team.
It would seem that the team will at least be more readily able to defend itself physically this season which will be a nice change. Far better to be big and lousy than small and lousy any day.
I agree with you Dom, I really hope they decide to let the youngsters develop this season in places where they are most likely to have success. I think we accept this as another building year in which alot of the young guys already in the nhl get more experience with hopefully fewer liberties taken against them as they have a little more protection. With any luck at all the crew of up and coming prospects continue to develop and perhaps next season sees one or two of them improve the nhl product.
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He and Andrew MacDonald looked a little … a little like they need more time together.
When I watched the game my internal description of this pairing was, “This looks like when two men dance”
Forget about the LHP, BKLYN, Queens or Hamilton... Wang is moving the Islanders to The Nassau University Medical Center.
Ullstrom
correct me if I’m wrong, but according to TSN stats., he is an extremely low scoring player in Sweden,
Lack of minutes?
http://islanders.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8474666
His junior numbers were good (2-3 years ago). 54 points in 40 games. (27-27-54)
There is no TOI numbers so he just might not have gotten a chance. I don’t know as much about the European prospects.
It’s not uncommon for younger players in the foreign leagues to get far fewer minutes, and especially a well-established league like the Elitserien. Those teams aren’t just placeholder franchises for NHL prospects, but serious leagues with the business of winning hockey games firmly in mind. If a kid only earns seven minutes a game that’s all he gets, even if somebody just drafted him second overall out here. (I think that’s part of the reason why foreign players can usually go to minor league affiliates as soon as they come to North America, while kids from Major Junior have to wait until they’re 20.) That’s one big reason the Isles want to get Petrov out of Ak Bars ASAP… they have no interest in developing him for an NHL team, the way Bridgeport or Moncton would.
That’s why it was such a huge deal two years ago when Victor Hedman was playing 20 minutes a night in his draft year. He’d earned it and held his own against veteran players.
Quickly moving up the depth chart
Defensive role?
Just to add to what mikb said, apparently his role was also more defensive-minded in Sweden (I’ve heard allusions to this from announcers and a question posed to Gordon). It may be an adjustment if he is used in a more point-producing role, though I’d picture him being a more two-way type.
I’d agree the ideal is still probably to get him Bridgeport time first.
Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo were important to this team.
Ok, that makes sense,
Sort of look at him like our Frans. Plays too many minutes as a defensive minded guy to throw up big points, but obviously(at least in my mind) could be an offensive force(Frans without question would be a 50pts+ guy with more of an offensive role and on the 2nd line).
Go isles or Go home.
Martin - Konopoka - Gillies
Sound like they are going to be fun, one way or another.
When will the hurting stop?
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.
If that is the starting 4th line night in and out, we are going to have a lot of fighting majors this season. lol
Go isles or Go home.
Going back and watching more of the game
Gordon definitely had Konopka with Rakh a lot and Konopka with Martin some, with Gillies getting more minutes than the typical Gordon enforcer but still not very many. I could see him throwing the 17/28/14 combo out there when he needed a rumble but otherwise rotating other guys in next to Zenon plus whoever.
Just strategically, this will be interesting to watch. He’s going to have to be judicious with Gillies, as even last night he was out there for more hemmed-in and icing situations.
Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo were important to this team.
Marti is back* (with usual asterisks)
NOOOOOOOO Dom! You just snapped the poor guy’s hamstrings like old chopsticks!
Remember the whole “most underrated D-man … when healthy” rap? Well, it’s back. The man was smooth, calm, graceful and smart under pressure.
STOP IT STOP FOR THE LOVE OF POTVIN
I bet that if you kicked in Colin Campbell’s door unexpectedly, you’d catch him randomly sticking knitting needles into a list of the Islanders’ roster, and a sacrificed chicken in a closet shrine.
Quickly moving up the depth chart
by mikb on Sep 30, 2010 3:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
At least I didn't run a projection poll for his stats
That’s the kiss of death by labrum.
Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo were important to this team.
LOL
“Here are your Islanders scratches tonight, brough to you by tough-actin’ Tenactin:”
Mark Streit – shoulder
Kyle Okposo – shoulder
Rick DiPietro – bone-itis
Radek Martinek – Lighthouse Poll
Quickly moving up the depth chart
Nicely done.
Streit — EA Sports cover jinx…
It is official, I am moving back to Long Island in about 2-3 weeks.
by metalcoconut on Sep 30, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
bone-itis, nice Futurama reference there
a profound return... i still love sammy octoberfest :-)
by bob l on Oct 1, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This looks to be a fall back year in the rebuilding process
Every team has one. This is shaping up to be one. In a lot of respects this is where the growth really happens as these kids learn to step up and fill more roles than they are accostumed to.
As Clint Eastwood would say, “It’s gonna get real fuckin ugly”
This season we really get to see what some of these kids are made of.
This is the season where Bailey really shows us what he’s capable of on this level. I predict Bailey asserts himself as this teams next captain. Those rookie gloves are off.
Not so sure about that
Yes Streit is gone but so is the (-18 and -15 Witt and Gervais brought) . In comes Eaton, Wiz and dare I say a healthy Marti.
We all love Hillen and MacDonald but don’t forget they both started last season as prospects in the A.
D is still better then last year (barring major injuries again)
You sure Hillen wasn't the 7th man?
I forget, but either way saying Hillen started in the A is misleading. Hillen played 69 games for us last year(even with the Ovi slapper to his face). And a-mac was in the nhl 1/2 the season(46games). So them playing “a few” more games this year then last isn’t a big jump for our d. But Eaton and Wiz should definitely help, as does a healthy martinek. But you must also remember, no streit means Mottau/Jurcina taking the “6th spot”. It’s definitely better, but Streit was playing ~25mins/gm last year, and that’s a big load that now needs to be shuffled to a few more defenders. Do I think our D is better then last year(no streit, no witt, no gervais(general consensus), no SUTTON, no meyer, + Wiz/Eaton/Jurcina/Mottau/Martinek(not till we see it lol), defensively yes(a little bit better, sutton was reallly good last year) and offensively, obviously no. But we really needed to be better then last year anyway. Giving up 260goals+ 3 seasons in a row is hard to do, lol. But sadly still a possibility if another d man goes down(especially martinek)
Go isles or Go home.
Turn that frown upside down...
There’s plenty of reasons to watch this team this year.
1. The team as a whole is as young and talented as it has been since the mid 70’s.
2. John Tavares still has to show his ID at NC 17 movies, and most southern hockey arenas, but he is the shit! I don’t talk about him much, but you can just see that hockey oozes from this kids veins…. the only thing that I would worry about him is empty and lackluster coliseum tuesday nights sucking the life out of him [and Dom doing a community projection on him].
3. Matt Martin… been reading your “dirt” for many years… you gotta me on the No. 17 train… I know you are.
4. As neo stated… even without Streit it’s an improved D. I’m excited about seeing Marty… Wiz is gonna bring the cheese… and who knows we might even see a 30+ point season out of Passer Jack. Now we even have Mottau (who I still can’t believe Snow signed)… but if Frans is cool with it, who am I to complain.
5. Ricky may even stay healthy long enough to prove he’s done… and then THE FINNISHER ERA Begins!
Forget about the LHP, BKLYN, Queens or Hamilton... Wang is moving the Islanders to The Nassau University Medical Center.
Lol, well put and funny. I can't wait for JT's 1st 80pts+ season. Could it be this year? lol
They will be a fun team to watch, just not a playoff team.
Go isles or Go home.
if Frans is cool with it, who am I to complain.
All fun aside, I wonder if any of them even care? We all remember it, Frans must remember it (right?), maybe even Trent Hunter remembers it. But aside from Hunter’s fight immediately afterward, I can’t remember anyone so much as mixing it up with Mottau in the many NYI-NJD games since.
I remember Cap’n McNulty at the time saying, “Mottau’s not that kind of player, but that was a dirty hit,” and that’s about all I recall from the team.
Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo were important to this team.
Ive been digging Ullstrom and Rakhshani
Im more psyched about those two than I thought Id be. I think they both look really good.
I think RSH has been lookin great, too.
Oh Radek… if there’s ever been a year for you to do it again, this is it. >70 GP FTW!
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
They’ll be a short ferry ride away…. for a while anyway.
Ultra Ullstrom might replace the Energizer Bergy in the things that make you scream category… because everybody needs to scream once in a while.
Did you see the game last night… Radek looked very smooth… I think they should pack him in bubble wrap and get him some Supple.

Forget about the LHP, BKLYN, Queens or Hamilton... Wang is moving the Islanders to The Nassau University Medical Center.
I feel an endorsement deal coming on!
Supple – Official Sports Drink of the New York Islanders
Peach + Mango + Condroitin = Playoffs!
Quickly moving up the depth chart
Throw a little Boniva in there for good luck.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Sep 30, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I was not able to see either game but...
Yes, are 8 NHL defensemen, but, apart from Wizzer, none of them really have anything like Calvin’s potential. If he proves he is ready, I would strongly favor adding him to the roster.
As to Nino vs Rhett, I cannot say that I am that familiar with Rhett and I am certainly not as emotionally engaged with him as with Nino. Long term I am convinced that Nino may become one of the best forwards in franchise history…something I doubt Rhett will come close to doing. Short term, however, if Rhett is more worthy of a roster spot, you have to respect that.
That said, if Nino does not make the roster, it becomes even more imperative in my view to make a move for Langenbrunner or someone like him. We really need a big tough talented PF on that top line.
Good points
Nino as one of the best forwards would be interesting. The kid has potential and a lot of scouts predict him to be a steady 30goal scorer in a few years. Rhett, love his style and play, but his size is holding him back. If he was 200lbs or 6’+ tall, I’m pretty sure he would have locked a roster spot by now. Ulstrom is an interesting case too, but we have so many centers now, and 1 player that is a natural center playing wing(bailey). Ulstrom should be a call up, Rhett or Nino should be full-time right now if we don’t sign another forward(I’d prefer for them to see the time over sim or hilbert right now, mccammond I would rather have starting though if he signed). De haan I’m 50/50 on playing a full nhl season and Hamonic I want full-time if healthy, or at least a quick/the-1st call up.
Go isles or Go home.
I’m reluctant but fine if de Haan shows he’s ready — I just don’t think he’s ready yet. (I neglected to mention he threw a missed hip check whiff that led to Glencross’ goal last night…not that that couldn’t happen to the best of them, and Sutton.) He just looked underdeveloped to me compared to Wiz, A-Mac, and Marti last night. Throw Hillen in plus Eaton and Jurcina and I wonder if there’s room.
However, if they think his curve is moving such that he can learn on the job this year and take just the easy minutes + PP duty, I could see that argument.
With Rhett, I agree — I mean hopefully Nino becomes far better than Rhett will be, but for this year…I wonder. That said, I don’t envy the braintrust’s situation. Both Nino and de Haan are victims of the juniors/AHL rule which forces the club to make a premature decision.
Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo were important to this team.
as I see it...
Calvin may have some growing to do on defense, but I think the offense he adds will compensate.
Like the fighting spirit...
Every asset needs protection, hope this shows a developing “Don’t Screw With Us.” mindset that can keep most goons from acting and provide the proper response to the goons (Pronger comes to mind for some reason…) that screw with those assets, particularly JT and, should he make the club, de Haan.
And as to Jesse “Heading towards the light”, I second THAT emotion. We need guys that can dent the twine these days. Then again, if he can become the second coming of Clark Gillies, I’d be good with that too.
Just a question about Mikko: Does he look ready, and by ready, I mean: “When China Ricky goes down again, is Mikko ready to jump right in and grab sixty minutes between the pipes per start at the NHL level”?
Perhaps we should stop with the Community Projections before we end somebody's career...
Mikko
Still haven’t seen enough, but to me he looks quite close. His size is such an asset. Seeing the contrast between a slimmed-down and narrower pad DiPietro and the giant Mikko was stunning. I do believe the Isles are stacked in goal now, so my only fear is a healthy-but-average DP scenario.
Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo were important to this team.
A healthy but average DiPietro is a real possibility.
They guy hasnt played hockey regularly in TWO years! I bet he has never gone that long without playing in his whole life… since he was literally a toddler. If he is average, we are still lucky. After all, he could be healthy and far below average.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Sep 30, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
P.S.
Fantastic signature.
Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo were important to this team.
I thought it was a great idea when you started them...
…then Streit and Oko went down and it started to feel like Rod Serling was delivering our injury reports.
“Kyle Okposo, gifted young professional ice hockey forward and potential star for the New York Islanders. Recent fan projections are optimistic, perhaps a break-out season lies just over the horizon. However, for Kyle- and the Islanders Faithful- this road takes a sudden detour. Single Lane Traffic Ahead. Next Exit…The Twilight Zone.”
Don’t wanna see JT end up “in the cornfield”.
Glad to hear we’ve got a stockpile in net though.
Speaking of Mikko’s size, I remember that both he and Nilsson were big, but one was tall and lanky and the other was BIG, as in “Goes into his crouch and the back of the net disappears from view.”.
Which one was Mikko?
Perhaps we should stop with the Community Projections before we end somebody's career...
by BrassBonanza10 on Oct 1, 2010 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure *that* one was Mikko
At least he can place his butt on the crossbar without even waking up his calfs.
Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo were important to this team.
Mikko weighs the same as JT so at that height Im sure he can be described as lanky. But dressed, dayum. He really DID look like he could lean his ass on the crossbar!
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
by TheMetalChick on Oct 1, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions

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