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Split Gameday: Islanders vs. Flamyers. One day at a time, two squads at a time

Calvin de Haan's with the big boys in Saskatoon.

For the Islanders split-squad games tonight, the A-Team (I love it when a plan comes together) -- the squad with the more interesting job battles -- is unfortunately the one in Saskatoon, which is supposedly the game that will be televised on delay at 4 a.m. (That's assuming the original NHL release and my cable box are to be believed; the current NHL Network listing for both U.S. and Canada tells something completely different and nonsensical).

This evening, we'll have a new game thread up at Lighthouse Hockey both for the live game (assuming it's shown as billed) as well as the tape-delayed game (assuming it's...yeah, you're waking up for it, right? Me neither.). UPDATE: Well there you go. No sober-hour live hockey for you, mister. The important game at least still gets a delayed airing.

The squad sent to Philadelphia according to the official site is the "invite" squad -- featuring Ortmeyer, Kolanos, McAmmond, Eriksson, etc. Chris Botta listed a slightly different group, including two-ways Andy Hilbert and Jon Sim. Whatever the case, he also reports Scott Gordon told media that Matt Moulson is in that group because Gordon already knows what Moulson can do. So: Jesse Joensuu's presence with that group could mean ... he also knows what JJ can do? And ... is it good enough?

Llooking at the lines in camp, you wonder about the Finn Named Jesse's chances. Guys like Nino Niederreiter, David Ullstrom, Matt Martin and Rhett Rakhshani -- Saskatoon-bound, all of them -- may have a leg up in light of Kyle Okposo's injury. After the jump, more on Mike Mottau, tonight's opponent(s), and one fascinating link.

Star-divide

This is my way of trying to digest the Streit and Okposo injuries, one day at a time. Drinks will be poured.

Links and Bits

Roster Napkin-Sketching

Okay, Kyle Okposo is out. There are forward jobs to be won. But we haven't seen a single job applicant play against a single NHL player, save for intrasquad. Still, at this date, how do you fill in the following blanks for opening night?

Moulson - Tavares - Comeau
Bailey - Nielsen - Hunter
___ - Schremp - ____
___ - Konopka - ____
Edit: Weight (assuming health)
[spare____]

I left four to five spots open (per Anarucurt's comment, I accidentally omitted Doug Weight, whose readiness for opening night is ... likely at this point?). Judging from camp lines it sure looks like P.A. Parenteau will have to play his way out of a spot. So your candidates include: Parentau, Trevor Gillies, Niederreiter, Ullstrom, Rakhshani, Joensuu, Sim, McAmmond (PTO), Hilbert.

I'm basing this on the thought we'll have 8 defensemen, leaving room for 13 forwards.

 

Flames + Flyers = Flamyers

Flyers: Every team gets injuries. They just don't all get injuries to their two most important players like the Islanders. Still, the Flyers have been hit with some meaningful ones. Add to Chris Pronger's surgery-forced late start, the following: An already shaky goaltending situation weakened by Michael Leighton's bulging disc (4 weeks), plus Ian Laperriere suffering from post-concussion syndrome. Leighton isn't a stellar goalie, so it's not like they've lost their difference maker ... but this does create the proverbial "instability" at the position.

Flames: Did we mention injuries? The Flames have taken big hits at center, with both Matt Stajan and Daymond Langkow going down. Olli Jokinen also left last night's game with an injury of undisclosed severity -- I told you we're not alone.

In their absence, half of the Flames won last night, so the team remains undefeated in preseason, but well, as Nathan Arizona would say, add some chairs to that and you got a dinette set. No chairs, you got ... preseason records. Jerome Iginla played last night, so I wouldn't expect him in Saskatoon tonight. Maybe the Isles A team won't be playing NHLers tonight after all.

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I was just on NHL.com and the NYI V Phi game has been switched out for the Toronto game.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=538913

by Anarcurt on Sep 29, 2010 8:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Flames

NHL network is showing 4am & 10am US

Islanders/Flyers will be shown in Canada 2am & 8am

All eastern.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=58058&navid=DL|NHL|NHLNetwork

by Anarcurt on Sep 29, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another Toronto game? I guess they’re down to flipping coins, “Heads: Toronto game, Tails: 2009 Western Conference Playoff videos.” Like we can ever get too much of those!

I personally can’t watch a game if I already know the outcome, unless something awesome happens like when Kovalev chased Darcy Tucker around and then smashed into his head. lol.

by Les Beaver on Sep 29, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can hear it now

“We feel there is a surging demand in the United States to see every Leafs preseason game possible.”
I like how at the end of their release they brag about how generous they are to us:

NHL Network is airing an unprecedented total of 35 preseason games in the U.S. this year, providing fans with nightly contests from around the League
Have a cookie, you bastards! You’re still not showing me the game I want!
.

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo were important to this team.

by Dominik on Sep 29, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roster Napkin

is missing Doug Weight, 4th LW?

by Anarcurt on Sep 29, 2010 8:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Parenteau 3rd LW
Nino 3rd RW
Weight 4th LW
Rakhshani 4th RW
Gilles- Goon Time.

by Anarcurt on Sep 29, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Matt Martin will be there. Guess I need to do something different with Weight. Still think Nino gets 9 games so his spot will be available for someone. In my early morning coffeelessness I swapped positions on Nino and PA

Parenteau 3rd RW
Nino 3rd LW 9 games Martin remainder.
Weight 4th LW
Rakshani 4th RW
Martin- extra forward first 9 games- Gilles remainder.

by Anarcurt on Sep 29, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Weight whoops

Ack, I meant to note him somewhere. I assume he’ll be ready by Opening Night, but then that’s a dangerous assumption with any of them these days…

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo were important to this team.

by Dominik on Sep 29, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Opening night lines

Parenteau-tavares-comeau (do I have them on off wings?)
Bailey-schremp-moulson
Martin-Nielsen-hunter
Weight-konopka-gillies

Wiz-eaton
Hillen-jurcina
Amac-Mottau

I thought Hunter/Martin looked great and with Franz should be even better. Weight can be moved all over. The D would all have balance of puck mover/defensively responsible. Sorry, no Niño unless he looks outstanding in the next couple of weeks. Don’t want him feeling like he needs to be KOs replacement. Apparently, he will get time this year anyway if this injury trend continues…ullstrom, joensuu, figren line one at the bridge and CdH/Hamonic (build chemistry)

by Keith Quinn on Sep 29, 2010 9:06 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Spare

Yablonski…if we can’t beat you, we’ll beat you down!

by Keith Quinn on Sep 29, 2010 9:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Parenteau-Tavares-Comeau
Bailey-schremp-Moulson
Martin-Nielsen-Hunter
Weight-Konopka-Sim (Gillies “when needed”)
(Outside looking in: Nino, Joensuu, Rakshani, Ullstrom)

Wiz-Eaton
Hillen-Martinek
Amac-Mottau

  1. - Jurcina, #8 – Bruno

by JPinNYC on Sep 29, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

i’ll be up at 4, cant wait to watch

(completely not being serious)

a profound return... i still love sammy octoberfest :-)

by bob l on Sep 29, 2010 9:15 AM EDT reply actions  

DVR

It’s NHL network though right? I don’t get that anyway…because I’m cheap.

by Keith Quinn on Sep 29, 2010 9:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yup. Nobody is saying why, though. I wondered if it had to do with MSG. The Devils were blacked out locally, I wondered if the same kind of thing was happening and so they decided not to bother.
Trying to find out why via The Arena site last night, here’s the only answer:

RobCarlinMSG @NHLArenaNYIsles Yeah, NHL changed the coverage schedule.. not sure why they’re not showing #Isles-#Flyers.. but definitely not MSG decision

And Botta said:

ChrisBottaNHL NHL Network cancels Islanders at Flyers on Wed. Now showing Leafs at OTT. Maybe they saw Saskatoon was getting the A team? Nah.

That could be the explanation… as could our recent injuries… or, as I personally suspect, they just dont give a shit.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Sep 29, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm banking on the B-team explanation

Just love how they show U.S. viewers ANOTHER Toronto game, instead of, I don’t know, the live Islanders game that Islanders fans will be wanting to see.

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo were important to this team.

by Dominik on Sep 29, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Flames game is still on the schedule
NHL network canceled tonights showing of the game

Set your DVRs, people. The Flames game is still airing at 4 a.m. according to the latest NHLN schedule. (And frankly, that lineup is the one I want to see.

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo were important to this team.

by Dominik on Sep 29, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Im already recording both

I just think Im going to see the Leafies in recording #1 and promptly delete it.
Recording #2 will be enjoyed after work tomorrow. :)

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Sep 29, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pondering doing a sleep shift all-nighter.

Very poor choice, I know, but I don’t have my usual late-night pickup hockey this week.

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo were important to this team.

by Dominik on Sep 29, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad I didnt bother

Since it was blacked out here. Islanders fans on the Island arent allowed to watch their team play preseason hockey. :(

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Sep 30, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

THL

Judging by the schedule change, the NHL should forever now be known as THL – Toronto Hockey League.
  Oh we know those Canadians love their hockey, but excuse me if I do too.

 And Dom was complaining about 4 am games. How un grateful. the hockey Gods in Toronto saw that and then phooey on they of 4 am hockey broadcast!

  If you weren’t an Islander fan, you’d be laughing about this. Suffering enough under the thumb and whim of MSG and it’s “home” team, which we are not. Take my word for it, If you live outside of the NYC broadcast area consider yourself lucky. MSG broadcasts ad-nauseum Rangers and Knicks (who?) games going back to 1970 every night and day. Flipping through the channels and seeing this sickens me knowing that baseball, football, basketball and hockey have more than one team here, but oh no, MSG has the Rangers. Suckers got lucky once in 4 lifetimes and they are treated like gods.
  Which takes us back to the gods from Toronto. Finish close to last again and we will the one’s laughing and chanting Toronto sucks. Most Islander fans will accept that we are bad and any open minded person will tell you why. But at least aren’t in denial.

   1967. While watching your pre season games, remind us again how good the monster is? That bad huh? Too bad.

Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!! Come, Get some respect a Professional team deserves!!

by Martys301 on Sep 29, 2010 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

For an opening night lineup guess, I'd go:

Moulson/Tavares/Comeau
Bailey/Nielsen/Hunter
Martin/Schremp/Parenteau(or nino for 9games-whole season and bump Paren. to the 4th line)
Joensuu or Sim or hilbert(will be bumped for parenteau if nino is up)/Konopka/Weight
Gillies/Sim-Hilbert(joensuu needs ahl time if not starting)

Eaton/Wiz
Martinek/Hillen
Jurcina/Mottau
Gervais (a-mac in the minors for waiver reasons)

If Mccammond signs I could see him taking a bottom 3 spot on the starting lineup and helping on the pk.

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Sep 29, 2010 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Parentau

This is going to be interesting. They keep running Parentau out with Tavares and Comeau. Is that just to see the max of what he can do in ideal circumstances, or does he have to be a fit on that line to earn a spot?

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo were important to this team.

by Dominik on Sep 29, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

They signed him to a 1-way(correct?)

So I’d give him a starting spot based on that.

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Sep 29, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

He basically has an Out if he doesn’t make the team so that he can play in Europe.

When will the hurting stop?
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.

by Mark D on Sep 29, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

K. Thanks for the clarification.

I remember hearing the out clause, just didn’t remember if he was on a 1-way too.

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Sep 29, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a one way

When will the hurting stop?
Contributor to Lighthouse Hockey not sure if I'm the Sniper or the Enforcer.

by Mark D on Sep 29, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that I've seen

…although I bet you could find some illicit online streams if you looked.

The Flames/Saskatoon game will be aired on NHL Network replay at like 4 a.m. and 10 a.m.

Lighthouse Hockey: You say that like Streit and Okposo were important to this team.

by Dominik on Sep 29, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks,

looks like I’ll be reading the stat sheets. lol

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Sep 29, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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