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Can the Islanders Compete in the Atlantic?

Last season the Islanders went 7-15-2 within the Atlantic. Although other teams were just as bad within their division, no team racked up as many losses. With the Eastern Conference Champion for the last three years coming from the Atlantic, including a Stanley Cup win for the Penguins, the Atlantic could be considered one of the tougher divisions in the league. The Penguins and Devils are perennial Stanley Cup contenders. The Flyers and Rangers have their weaknesses, but as long as Chris Pronger and Henrik Lundqvist play at their top level they can threaten for the Cup.

Although the Islanders had a wonderful draft, the free agency period was disappointing. While we won't know what happened behind the scenes, the Islanders watched as just about all the top defenseman on the market went to Atlantic rivals. Although the Islanders did sign and acquire Mark Eaton, Milan Jurcina and James Wisniewski, it wasn't the hoped for player who could allow Mark Streit to take the occasional break.

If the Islanders are going to get to the playoffs, they are going to have to win against the Atlantic. Only the Colorado Avalanche of 16 playoff teams finished with a sub-.500 record against their own division. The seal against the Flyers finally seems to be broken after 13 straight losses. If the reason the Islanders struggled against Philly in the past was due to the size difference, there is no longer that excuse. Against the Penguins and Devils last season the Islanders showed flashes of what they could do.

Star-divide

The Devils won the division last year, and then got manhandled by the Flyers in five games. Lou proceeded to "Get The Band back together" by bringing in former players like Jason Arnott and showing interest in Peter Sykora who were part of the Stanley Cup winning 2000 Devils team. They also added Anton Volchenkov and Henrik Tallinder, two high quality defenseman to solidify an already strong blueline. The addition of Johan Hedberg should allow Martin Brodeur to get more rest during the regular season. Of course there's also the continued presence of Ilya Kovalchuk. The Devils appear to be going all out to get the Cup in the next few seasons.

The Flyers barely made the playoffs last year, proceeded to upend the Devils and take one of the more surprising runs to the Cup in recent history. Although there were attempts to bring in both Evengei Nabokov and Marty Turco, the Flyers look like they are prepared to go with last years biggest surprise, Micheal Leighton. If you believe the Flyers got to the finals based on a strong defensive corps, they have only improved their D with the additions of Sean O'Donnell and Andrej Meszaros. The loss of oft-injured Simon Gagne will have repercussions in the locker room, but the Flyers seem to be banking on that they can replace his production.

The Penguins might have been suffering from a hangover last season. Getting to the Finals in back to back years can take a beating to a team. Add in the Olympic "break" which saw most of their top stars making big contributions to their teams and the second round loss to the Habs isn't that surprising. Bringing in Zbynek Michalek and Paul Martin while letting Mark Eaton and Sergei Gonchar walk helps bring down the age of the defense while not losing much. The Penguins though live and die according to two players, Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin. If the defense can help Marc Andre-Fleury it should be a lengthy season for them.

The Rangers, well, Glenn Sather still runs the team. That's a reason to celebrate for us. If not for Henrik Lundqvist and a miraculously healthy season from Marian Gaborik the Rangers probably would have finished last in the division. Even so, they were within two points or an Olli Jokinen missed shootout from making the playoffs and they've added Alex Frolov. So the addition of Derek Boogaard should put them over the top.

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What do you think? Are the Islanders better prepared to tackle Atlantic foes?

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Can the Islanders Compete in the Atlantic in 2010-11?
Yes, and dominate
13 votes
Yes, should be much more competitive
447 votes
No, it's still their downfall
220 votes
No, and prepare for more Flyers-type losing streaks.
90 votes

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More competitive

Defense was our big problem all season in being competitive and we definitely fixed that problem since last year just by looking at the personnel changes. With nhl-aged-witt and ahl-gervais off the starting roster for next year and definitely not playing the majority of the nhl games next year, while being replaced by 2 legit top 4 d-men is enough to put a smile on any isles fan face. Then you add Sutton’s career year and meyer’s ok year(great for him) being replaced by a-mac who does his sutton’s job better then Sutton without being very physical and hillen who is a better all around player then meyer except in the hits department and you have a much better d-core then last year with better depth.

Starting D for last year and most of the season last year:
Witt-a man that never worked in Gordon’s system and had all his injuries and career blocked shots catch up to him bad the last 2 years. He played like a career ahl d-man last year.
Gervais-another bad season to add to his portfolio. He too played like a career ahl d-man last year.
Sutton/Meyer-Both played well but took way too many penalties then they should have(played like top 4 d-men, meyer borderline 4/5).

Replacements:
Eaton-Solid top 4 defensive defenseman, very smart and stays out of the box
Wizniewski-Top 4 d-man with top 2 potential, will be a replacement for sutton’s physical game while adding more offense that we were missing on the blueline last year. When looking at his +/- compared to minutes played, he is no question a top 4 d-man defensively/overall (whether ducks fans like to admit it or not with his departure, lol)
Jurcina-Career 6/7 nhl d-man. Stayed out of the p-box well last year. Has all the tools he needs to be a top 4 d-man except he doesn’t have passion or use them. Has a big shot but doesn’t use it much and has a big frame but doesn’t dive to block shots or hit people through the boards with it much. Hopefully ex-coach Gordon can light a fire under him to play with passion. Decent depth player at minimum.

Returning:
Streit-Top 2 guy in every sense of the word
Hillen-Top 4 potential he showed last year, just needs a little more maturing to be a steady top 4(arguable top 4 material now)
A-mac-Top 4 shutdown man without the offense
Martinek-Top 4 shutdown man without the offense when healthy
 

Our offense was never bad, it was just about average, and now it should be a bit better with the maturing of our young players. Other things we upgraded were toughness with gillies and konopka, something we lacked as some needed protection for our young guns. Other then that, SSNewDay for the most part.
And goalie, Lawson can no way play worse then biron did last year as our backup. So nice improvement there too.
So looking at it, yes I think we will be more competitive. Will we conquer the best division in the eastern conference? No, but we should give some great battles this year to these teams. We may even surprise a ton of teams if our young offensive players emerge to the stars we thought some of them to be.

PS-In your article it says the devils brought in Elias while most of us know he is a career devil, but your right on the arnott acquisition.

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Aug 9, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

The problem I see is that while the Islanders have improved their defense, the non-addition of another top 2 guy hurts. Not only that but we saw a lot of the better dmen go to the Flyers, Devils and Pens.

It will probably be a combination of how well we play in the Atlantic, how well we play in the 3rd and how well we play on the road that makes or breaks the team. Hopefully between the new additions and the youngsters being a year older improves road play and 3rd period play. The addition of size looks to be a remedy for the Islanders poor play against the Atlantic last year.

And thanks, I got Sykora and Elias messed up. Elias was pushing for the Devs to give Sykora a tryout after they added Arnott.

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by Mark D on Aug 9, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the d will be fine

With all the weird combos we throughout last year and the witt/bruno fiasco we needed to deal with, I’m sure our new personnel outlook will be more then fine and give us what should be at least an all around minimum AVERAGE d-core. Now instead of having onlt 1 true-top 2 and a lot of bottom 2 d-men, we are overloaded with top 4 and have great depth. We should be fine and if wiz is given the top 2 spot and minutes(as expected) I see him filling in fine and playing at worst as a marginal top 2 guy.

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Aug 9, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. Our D isn’t the problem. The lack of scoring and ability to keep leads will be our downfall for another year.

Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!! Come, Get some respect a Professional team deserves!!

by Martys301 on Aug 9, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The lead thing should be in the past.

I think our better and more experienced D will help us hold our leads better.You have to admit that maybe having Kohn, Flood, Gervais, and Resse in the third period could have been a problem. Also with our top players getting an extra year and a better shutdown line of forwards and D we will be able to hold down with under ten minutes and a two goal lead.

by rockhouse15 on Aug 9, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Isles remain a small team and if anything, our defense has shown it is prown to injury.

  No improvement up front and still lacking in size gets us beat down most of the season..again.

Get out of the sticks, Charles, move to Queens!! Come, Get some respect a Professional team deserves!!

by Martys301 on Aug 9, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better, but not quite there

The team is better and has a better chance of beating every team in the division. That being said, they still lack the ability to put those teams away. They will still struggle vs. the division (except for the Rangers) when playing on the road. They will have problems holidng a lead (assuming they get one). They will be lucky to finish the season with double-digit wins against the Atlantic.

If this team intends on making the playoffs they need to take a couple of games from each deivison foe and play very well against the entire Eastern Conference. Problem is that the Southeast improved drastically.

by Lee F on Aug 9, 2010 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Southeast improved drastically?

Other then Tampa Bay’s retooling and florida’s minor detooling, what has really changed drastically there?

Florida should be a little worse, Tampa should be a little better, Atlanta should be about the same(losing kovalchuk, afinogenov, kubina, armstrong but they gained some blackhawks), Caps being about the same, and Cane’s about the same. I’d say the southeast is about the same.

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Aug 9, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are forgetting how much of a run the Canes went on when Cam Ward returned. For parts of the season they were almost as bad as the Oilers, yet they were able to compete for the last playoff spot in the dieing weeks.

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by Mark D on Aug 9, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ooo

Didn’t realize he missed that much time and they were that bad without him.

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Aug 9, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, the 'canes were awful

The Canes were dreadful last season before Ward got back from his injury. On December 1, they were 5-17-5, and on pace for only 45 points… INCLUDING pity points. If you adjust for the two OT losses and three SO wins they had at the time, their “old league” record would have been 2-19-6 – taking them from merely terrible to “expansion Capitals” territory, epic futility not seen since the modern Senators debuted.

It made me write one of my little hockey tunes, which I shall cut and paste here for your limited amusement:

Slapshots ring out in the October night
Enter the head coach from the player’s bench
Sees the goaltender sittin’ in a pool of red light
Calls out, "Get the backup in there now!"
Here comes the story of the Hurricanes
The ones the media have come to blame
For all those games they never won
Sittin’ in the box when they coulda been
The champions of the world…

Meanwhile, far away in another part of town
Erik Cole and a couple of friends are drivin’ around
A top contender for the Eastern Conference crown
Then they dropped the puck and the losses started comin’ down
Refs whistlin’ them for all those bogus calls
Just like the time before and the time before that
In Carolina that’s just the way things go
You might as well not even show up on the scoresheet
‘Less you wanna draw the heat

Jim Rutherford built this team from scratch
Got him some defensmen and a couple of scorers
Said his goalie was one of the best that there was
But the team kept gettin’ worse and he had to face the reporters
He said "All my guys are hurt and they’re on the IR
Ain’t gonna fire my coach or bench my star
We’ve just gotta have a little time
Get our team into a little climb
Just last year we won two playoff rounds!"

Two months later and the Hurricanes are still dead-last
Bloggers sayin’, "Hey, isn’t this the new NHL?
Everyone’s above .500 now, how can this pass?
We’re looking like the ‘75 Capitals!"
This is the story of the Hurricanes
Out of the race before Christmas came
They’ve gotta hope the ping-pongs run
So they can at least draft #1
But they used to be champions of the world!

My latest contract is for 31 years.

by mikb on Aug 10, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

How you come up with these, I have no idea. Consider it unlimited entertainment.

Lighthouse Hockey: More defensemen than we know how to spell.

by Dominik on Aug 10, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except the Islanders did better against the Northeast then they did the Southeast last year. They also did better in the “Much stronger” west then East.

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by Mark D on Aug 9, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, they did much, much better against the West. I think that’s because their go-go system is a better fit in the West. The East, specifically the Atlantic Division, is known for bigger bodies, more bruising d-men, and overall better defensive schemes. The Isles under Gordon can go toe-to-toe with any team in the league in regards to forechecking. Their problem was standing toe-to-toe physically.

by Lee F on Aug 9, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if it’s that the Go-Go system is better suited to the West, or more that Atlantic teams are already used to seeing it, whereas it might take Western teams by surprise — particularly those teams that think they’re getting an “easy” night against one of the Leastern Conference’s worst teams.

Lighthouse Hockey: More defensemen than we know how to spell.

by Dominik on Aug 9, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its the fact that they took us for granted as an esay 2 points

The icing on that cake was the Vancouver papers saying how this game shouldn’t happen and they spelt Moulson’s name wrong. Then we go in and Tavares has a career night and an easy win.

by rockhouse15 on Aug 9, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget the Detroit writer asking why not use Osgood against the powderpuff Islanders.

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by Mark D on Aug 9, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

My god I loved those games

Isles games against Vancouver and Detroit were great the season before, too. :)

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Aug 10, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

they can compete in anay game, but not over the season for 1st

theycan expect some improvement from many of their players, as they grow together even more.
but I can not see more than a 10-12 point improvement in a year,

the whole DP thing is still hanging over the team, does he come back like last year and ruin the flow, and I am not even saying it was his fault. He played good for being out so long. still there is no doubt that the team played horrible after he came back.

Biron came up big at the en dof the year with some wins, who comes up this year if Rollie falters.

the big reason I think we finish with more points, is I think the team can avoid that long bad spell this season. I really think we should make the playoffs finally

but no way we have the means to beat the Devils and Pens yet

by Rickfansince76 on Aug 9, 2010 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Reminds me of the AL East...

Pittsburgh, like the Yankees, aren’t going anywhere. But the others can be surpassed.

All the more reason to build slowly around youth and avoid wild free agency spending like the plague.

Think of the Rays…they play a distinct style that caters to their athleticism and youth. They’ve built through the draft (by choosing early often, and capitalizing on their opportunities. Evan Longoria and David Price are franchise players they can build around for years.

Their success was based upon the draft, but their success has brought in money, and that success (read: more fans, ticket sales, merchandise) should give them money to spend as the core ages to address weaknesses.

They still need a goalie, period. But Tavares is probably a franchise stud, Bailey likely is as well, and between Okposo, Schremp, Comeau, Macdonald, Hillen, Frans (!) and Moulson, a few major role players should emerge.

Add in Nino, Petrov, Hamonic, De Haan and Martin, it’s likely one or two of those four will turn into something as well.

They must find a goalie, DP or otherwise. But the pieces to the puzzle are likely here. NYI’s primary goal this year should be to develop the young talent on Long Island, figure out who fits where, and don’t be afraid to flip someone who doesn’t if it means bringing in a 1st or 2nd round pick.

Build a winner, money will come, and free agents will be easier to grab.

by kfallon2 on Aug 9, 2010 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

If u want more similarities

1. The Rays and Isles need new buildings but the local gov is saying no

2. There in a divison with not only good teams but big spenders.

3. The fact that their divison is so good helps them because it increases their home attendance when there in town.

by rockhouse15 on Aug 9, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wonderful last line
So the addition of Derek Boogaard should put them over the top.

I love this line so much.

As for the Atlantic, I think they’re bound to improve though I suspect it will still be the toughest part about their schedule. NYI-NYR seems to be destined for a series split these days and the rest will remain tougher than most of the NE and SE.

Of course part of the fun of this is there is so much untapped potential; so much is in the youngsters’ hands.

Lighthouse Hockey: More defensemen than we know how to spell.

by Dominik on Aug 9, 2010 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

If the Isles can manage another split

against the Devils or Flyers I think they’ll be in much better shape compared to last season’s Atlantic Division performance, no?

by ilopan on Aug 9, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes they can compete. Barring major injuries, Isles are a playoff team this year IMO, seasoned youth will be well served

by 7:11_OT on Aug 9, 2010 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

For the Curious

Against the Devils the Isles went 2-4
Rangers 3-3
Flyers 1-5
Pens 1-3-2

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by Mark D on Aug 9, 2010 5:33 PM EDT reply actions  

This year I think

Rangers 4-2
Flyers 1-4-1
Devils 2-3-1
Pens 2-2-2

Thats a 9-11-4 record With 22 points in 24 games if we can go even against the North east and over .500 in the west and south east then we can make the playoffs

by rockhouse15 on Aug 9, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

A large # of games feature an Isles team with 3 Dman who either began the season or ended it in the AHL. And that doesn’t include Meyer or Gervais.

Hard to not improve on that alone

by neologizer on Aug 9, 2010 6:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Not too far off

If I looked at this correctly the Islanders were in it till the end. If they make the playoffs this year (i think they will) then the patience we as fans had will have paid off. The idea is to improve in your own division and here are some things to look at:

Shootout losses

Sat, Oct 3 Pittsburgh L 3-4 SO
Wed, Nov 11 @ Washington L 4-5 SO
Losing 2 points to division teams is never a good thing.

OT Losses
Sat, Oct 24 Washington L 2-3 OT
Sun, Apr 11 Pittsburgh L 5-6 OT
The loss to Washington they were up 2-0 going into the third and the Pittsburgh game they came back from a 5-2 deficit.

One goal losses (regulation):

Fri, Nov 6 @ New Jersey L 1-2 Up 1-0 and lose 2-1
Wed, Nov 25 Philadelphia L 1-2 Up 1-0 and lose 2-1
Sun, Dec 27 Philadelphia L 1-2 came back to tie but gave up late goal in 2nd
Sat, Jan 30 @ Philadelphia L 1-2 down 2-0 scored one in 2nd
Tue, Mar 9 @ Philadelphia L 2-3 Up 2-0 lost 3-2
Tue, Mar 30 NY Rangers L 3-4 Up 2-0 went down 3-2 lost 4-3
Most of these losses resulted in a collapse in the second period.

With 6 regulation losses by one goal…… that resulted in 12 points not picked up and a playoff birth.
This is only for the East. Don’t forget that 6 of the first 9 losses were by one goal equaling 7 points lost to other teams.
So while the East has given us problems its really the second period when the damage was done.

by AndyPopp on Aug 9, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I broke down close games a while ago, the Islanders actually finished above 500 in close games going into the third. What really hurt was the shootouts in general, because your still giving up a point to mostly divisional/conference teams.

The Islanders though were much worse in the 3rd then the 2nd. In almost every stat they fell surprisingly short durng the 3rd period.

First Period GF 70 GA 75
Second Period GF 85 GA 87
Third Period GF 53 GA 91

Obviously the PP and PK %s dropped significantly during the 3rd period. Hopefully the problem was the Kids being young, Rollie being a bit tired having to cover for the defense, or any number of factors that can be improved on. It’s just to point to any handful of games and say if we won those games were the difference between playoffs or not. It was a season long epidemic of third period struggles which put the Islanders in the position of being so close and yet so far.

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by Mark D on Aug 9, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although the Islanders had a wonderful draft, the free agency period was disappointing

I think i have to reject your premise. I agree the draft was a good one, but the draft, like most, was most likely not going to make this a better team THIS season. Garth then added 3, count em, 3 decent D-men who are solid additions to the team. They WILL take some pressure off of Streit, and they give the kids a chance to develop properly. I do NOT consider that a “disappointing” FA period.

by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Aug 9, 2010 8:43 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

True, but considering that most pundits (love them or hate them) considered the Islanders drafts one of the best drafts outside of Florida was just to put a bit of perspective on the FA Period. Yes, we picked up some good dmen in FA. But I just think the fans and even Garth to a point expected to bring in one of the top Dmen. To see them miss out on them (which is no fault of their own) AND sign with teams in the division was slightly disheartening.

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by Mark D on Aug 9, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly what could they do

They completly out bid the Devils and Pens but they didn’t sign here. I’m starting to like where it’s going anyway. We got good veteran d-men that can play a top 4 role on cheap short contracts. Honestly who do u want Volchenkov and Martin on big contracts, or Tavares, Bailey, and Okposo on good contracts and no cap problems think about it.

by rockhouse15 on Aug 9, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, I’m not blaming the Islanders. There was just the hope that we could pick up another top 2 dman. We had the cap space to burn, and considering how far away from the Floor the Islanders were, there was definitely an attempt to get one of the guys who signed in Pittsburgh, NJ or in Philly.

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by Mark D on Aug 9, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just to Clarifiy

I feel that if I was to rate the Islanders FA period, I would give them an A for trying. They obviously expected to sign a big name Dman into the fold and not being 10 million under the floor. I just give them a B/B- for what they ended up getting.

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by Mark D on Aug 9, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

The Isles tried everything they could to bring in some big names and free agency and this is the best the team has turned out short of throwing money at every single free agency player. Garth gets an A for trying, and I’m more then pleased how our free agency period went this year. You guys remember how free agency went for us last year? Aside from roloson, I wanted to shoot myself.

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Aug 9, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Likewise

I too don’t think the Islanders’ uninspiring free agent haul is their fault, but considering their goals — Martin and/or Volchenkov and company — it fell short for them.

Kudos to Snow for going the alternate route and picking up Eaton and Wisniewski, but considering his goals and the “playoffs” aspiration, it still might have them less prepared for the Atlantic than if everything had gone as planned.

Lighthouse Hockey: More defensemen than we know how to spell.

by Dominik on Aug 10, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

But I just think the fans and even Garth to a point expected to bring in one of the top Dmen. To see them miss out on them (which is no fault of their own) AND sign with teams in the division was slightly disheartening.

I remember when that exact same thing happened a few years ago! Many fans wanted the Isles to sign a big-name star dman- this great top defenseman Wade Redden. “We need a top dman” they’d say. But, it didnt happen- and there were Isles fans who were disheartened then as well, since they wanted the proverbial big FA signing. They were bummed because the Isles were instead stuck overpaying some guy from Montreal who every Hab knew wasnt even good enough to play regularly on D.

The Isles didnt get the top guy, the big name guy- and many Isles fans were disheartened.
But only a few years later, you cant name even one Isles fan who still agrees with that train of thought. But it really did exist-Im sure you remember it!

I guess what Im saying is that Im not disheartened about the Isles signings at all. Id MUCH rather things went down the way they have gone down than for the Isles to have severely overpaid just so they could get the “top FA Dman”. I couldnt care less.

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Aug 10, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

i get what your sayin

i still tease my ranger friends about the Redden?Streit situation. 2 years ago i didnt know who the f*** Mark Streit was, come Christmas this past season, i owned his jersey

In Garth we trust!

by jcam1 on Aug 10, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

agreed, well said.

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by Mark D on Aug 10, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh god, those were the days

But to me the difference is, Redden was already in decline in Ottawa, and those who paid attention should have known it. Yuck, I wanted no part of Redden, so it was one of those double-Sather bonuses when he not only signed him, but signed him to a ridiculous term and ridiculous salary.

I’d no idea Streit would be as good as he is, but his signing did not disappoint me. There was a lot of upside there. Versus Eaton, well I’m happy we got him, but he’s a known quantity. I wasn’t sold on Hamhuis, but Martin or Zbynek would have been awesome. A-Train too, though I would have at least had reservations about his physical toll — six years is too much.

Lighthouse Hockey: More defensemen than we know how to spell.

by Dominik on Aug 10, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I felt that way too- I didnt want him and I thought the signing was overpayment- but I didnt even realize HOW much of an overpayment it was lol.

And I was a little wary of Streit because all the Habs fans said he sucked… and they are supposed to know their own players, right? I didnt even realize HOW wrong they were. :)

But I remember many Rags fans laughing at us, with this condescending attitude of how big name guys sign with the big name teams and the Isles esentially have to be happy with the leftovers. They were of course dead wrong, but I think some of that attitude has continued to affect members of the Isles fan base. We do not need to sign the BIG NAME guys- lets just sign good players and let them make their name for themselves right here. :)

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Aug 11, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

wary of Streit because all the Habs fans said he sucked… and they are supposed to know their own players, right?

:)

To your last point, I really see that as Snow’s #1 job as a low budget team’s GM: Find the guys who are undervalued and get them; allow the overvalued guys to go to the teams with more money than sense.

Lighthouse Hockey: More defensemen than we know how to spell.

by Dominik on Aug 12, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly:

Like a streit or moulson or roloson?, possibly even a pareantu.

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Aug 13, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot:

Or a schremp (headsmack to myself)

Go isles or Go home.

by OzzyFan on Aug 13, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Find guys who are undervalued and get them; allow overvalued guys to go to the teams with more money than sense.

I think Garth probably has this up on his pushpin board, right next to his “hang on it’s almost Friday” office cat poster. :)

Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)

by TheMetalChick on Aug 14, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

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