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The Value of Brendan Witt

(Authors Note: I wrote this Friday and was just about to publish it when we signed Eaton and the others, then it got pushed back due to the Kovy drama.)

One of the more surprising moves lately is that Brendan Witt was not placed on waivers with the Intention of buying out his contract. During the season it was obvious there was something wrong with Witt. Either father time had caught up with the thirty five year old defender or injuries slowed him down. Witt was playing hurt last year, that much we know now. But there is no way to know how much the injury affected his game These are injuries that have been lingering since 08-09 supposedly.

So now the Islanders have one more camp to see what a (hopefully) healthy Witt can do. It wasn't that long ago that Witt as an Islander posted career highs in Assists and Points. That same year he also had a career high with a +14 on the season. The following year he took a bit of a fall stats wise, but the real story was the beginning of his injury issues. These last two seasons Witt has put up the worst +/- of all Islanders defenseman without even playing the full season. So Snow must see something in him to keep him around.

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First off, believe it or not, is his contract. It just doesn't make sense to buy out a 3 million dollar contract when your not worried about being over the cap. If they bought him out, they are still taking a 1.5 million cap hit this year and next. You might as well just pay him 3 million and get something out of him. In the post lockout NHL, much like the NBA, a player with an expiring contract is worth more then his talent. Plenty of teams could possibly grab him at the trade deadline just in case of emergency or to dump a longer contract.

Secondly is as a mentor to the Bridgeport kids. In Dave's interview with Capuano, he mentioned that they are probably going to be one of the youngest teams in the AHL next year. I'm sure Witt and Mark Wotton will have a lot of fun breaking in the rookies and youngsters. Although Witt would still be getting his 3 million (as he doesn't have a two way contract), you can't put a price on how well these guys can prepare players for the NHL. A quick look at the ability of last seasons callups to not look out of place during NHL games shows that  veteran  players can be a good influence.

Thirdly, if Witt comes back and it was his health and not so much his age, he can push some of the youngsters for a spot with the Islanders. Competition is always good, and if one of the youngsters comes into camp thinking they should automatically be on the Isles, Witt could be one of those players that teaches them a life lesson. Is last season's Witt an upgrade on anyone who could make the team this year? No, but if healthy he can surprise people and you can never measure experience. For example sometimes being in the right position at the right time can be worth more then having the ability or talent to make up for being out of position.

Fourth and finally, if your the Islanders, one thing you should know by now is that you can never have enough defenseman around. If it's not Radek Martinek slipping on a pack of mustard while hitting the concession stands, it's Jack Hillen taking a puck to the face or Andy MacDonald going down just as you've signed him to a new long term deal. Really, there's no such thing as too many defenseman for the Islanders.

Witt is a warrior, and hopefully the last two seasons were just injury influenced. He wants to win just as much as anyone else in the league. This is not only his last chance to win, but probably his last chance to prove he can still play in today's NHL. Thirty Six year old defensemen who have spent the last two years in the AHL do not normally get another chance to play on an NHL team.

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Witt is a warrior

This is THE reason we should keep him. We all know he doesnt score and barely shoots. But this guy grinds out good hockey. I would rather have this guy experienced and playing 20min a game than any rookie.

by IslesFanForLife on Jul 5, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Certainly they can’t do that if he’s at his performance level of last season, when he was by any measure nearly the least effective D in the NHL at just 15 mins/game. It says something for this team of all teams to waive him mid-season. But the mixed signals on his health also clouds things. He strikes me as the type who plays through injury to his own detriment. That’s great for spirit and morale, but if it hurts the team it’s counterproductive.

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by Dominik on Jul 5, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is nothing more than a mentor now

keep him in Bridgeport teaching the young guys, if he leaves to another team no big deal. He really didn’t play well enough to be a big loss

by Rickfansince76 on Jul 6, 2010 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Recovered.

Snow must think there is a reason to keep him around, Unless buying him out, dispite the cap hit, doesn’t save enough to off set potential of re-entry waivers getting rid of half his salary if claimed.

Just say NO to long term contracts.

by since70too on Jul 5, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

What's this have to do with Ilya?!?!!!!11111

:) It’s kind of nice to think about something else.

I hope he’s around Bridgeport to help guide all those youngsters — If I recall, Hamonic said he looked up to him during his brief exposure to Isles camp. The magic health elixir would be huge if only for the depth/jobs competition reason, though that’s way less likely.

It’s intriguing. Witt and Wotton in the A is a nice pair of grizzly old mentors.

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by Dominik on Jul 5, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

3Mil is still an awful price for a mentor in the minors.

Just say NO to long term contracts.

by since70too on Jul 5, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

But what else are you going to do with him? You’re still on the hook for the 3 mil, so why not have him team up with Mark Wotton to help along Hamonic, Katic, Klementyev, et al down on the farm. Just make sure the SUVs in Bridgeport are aware he’s going to be in town.

There are few things in this world I enjoy more than the English getting beaten like a rented mule.

by David Hanssen on Jul 5, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I forgot about the DeHart Foundation. But still, there are four confirmed defensemen for Bridgeport that are under the age of 23 for Bridgeport next year. That makes having Witt and Wots as mentors important.

There are few things in this world I enjoy more than the English getting beaten like a rented mule.

by David Hanssen on Jul 5, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

woud buying him out not save on the 3mil?

Just say NO to long term contracts.

by since70too on Jul 5, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would only save half of the deal, 1.5 mil. Plus since he’s now a 35+, that might not even be the case. To the CBA .pdf!

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by David Hanssen on Jul 5, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

The 35+ rule only applies when the player is 35+ at the signing of the deal. Since Witt wasn’t 35 when he signed the contract, his cap hit could be reduced with a buyout.

According to capgeek.com, buying him out would have the following effect on the cap:
2010-2011: $1,333,333
2011-2012: $833,333
link: http://capgeek.com/buyout_calculator.php?Player=1094&buyout_y=2010&buyout_m=07&buyout_d=20&Calculate=%C2%AB+CALCULATE+BUYOUT+%C2%BB

However, he doesn’t count against the cap at all if he’s in Bridgeport, so buying him out really doesn’t make any sense.

by HockeyWeasel on Jul 5, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless you don’t want to pay a player 3 million to play for an AHL team.

If we don’t sign Kovy he’ll probably end up being called up and being scratched in order to get us closer to the floor.

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by Mark D on Jul 5, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know, we’re climbing closer to the floor now. I could see one fat forward signing (please Frolov) or two plus magical bonuses and RFA raises getting us there.

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by Dominik on Jul 5, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buying him out to save cap space doesn’t apply to us, But if he is bought out he doesn’t recieve full salary does he?

Just say NO to long term contracts.

by since70too on Jul 5, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct, but the reduction at this point with one year left is pretty minimal. I could see them doing it only to give him an exit (if he desires it) rather than the cash savings.

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by Dominik on Jul 5, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny how we talk NHL salaries and 1.3 million dollars is pretty minimal. I could use a “pretty minimal” pay hike!

Just say NO to long term contracts.

by since70too on Jul 5, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt

I often get into trouble with that, sorting in my head what is real money and what is minimal money to these org’s.

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by Dominik on Jul 5, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry for the additional dumb question- followed your link- had the answer. Added capgeek to favorites. Thanks.

Just say NO to long term contracts.

by since70too on Jul 5, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

What A Shame

Remember when the Isles signed Witt…… I know I was just as pumped up to have a shot blocking, rugged defender as many other islander fans. However, a few years later he is in the ahl. am i the only one who feels that this is a terrible way for his career to have gone?

We know he has been plagued by injuries and played far below is standard level of play last year, but, are the islanders so blessed with outstanding defensemen that he should be considered a mentor? with career minor leaguer mark wotton? I really want him to make the nhl club this year and stick it up the tiny tyrants’ you know what.

If healthy, he is a top four for the isles. he is great on the PK, brings some muscle, and is not afraid to drop the gloves. how many other d-men do we have that will/can do that.

by jrams16 on Jul 5, 2010 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

In Fairness he did have 2 of the best seasons of his Career with the Islanders. The mistake was probably giving him the last contract

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by Mark D on Jul 5, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

how many other d-men do we have that will/can do that.

To answer- none. But, sadly, I don’t think he can anymore either.

Just say NO to long term contracts.

by since70too on Jul 5, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

although, his contract should mandate that he cuts that mane….horrible

by jrams16 on Jul 5, 2010 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

No way, man. The hair is part of the mystique.

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by Dominik on Jul 5, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

although, his contract should mandate that he cuts that mane….horrible

:O Dont pick on his hair!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by TheMetalChick on Jul 6, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

i miss my long hair every day

Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?

-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me

by bob l on Jul 6, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dont knock the guys who no longer have it, but you also cant knock the guys who do!

Seriously though Brendan cant make up his mind. Shaving his head, hair down his back, layered, wavy, straight, he has tried it all. For him Im partial to the beach pic look below, but maybe thats just me and that darn heterosexuality of mine.

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by TheMetalChick on Jul 6, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, i guess we all go thru it, the pic below was about as long as mine ever got, and every time i grow it out it never feels the same as that first time… really a shame… but i shave it, spike it, i even did the billy idol one summer (was going to dye it green, but it looked too good white so i left it) haha, “get out of my way billy”

Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?

-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me

by bob l on Jul 6, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

did the billy idol, that is great lol.

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by TheMetalChick on Jul 6, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

nearly got kicked out of my house for that one chick, but it was worth it

Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?

-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me

by bob l on Jul 6, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

"But it was worth it"

Always.

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by Dominik on Jul 6, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

What Witt is going through reminds me a lot of the Kyle McLaren situation in San Jose a couple seasons ago – McLaren was big, gritty d-man who just wore down physically and couldn’t keep up w/the pace of play in the NHL. I think he ended up retiring last year after spending ’08-09 in the AHL.

Would love to see Witt as a mentor in Bridgeport, though – particularly as a mentor to a guy like Hamonic. Start him off slowly with Honda Civics and VW Golfs… then move up to mid-size sedans. Should be able to take on at least a Chevy Blazer by the time he suits up for his first NHL game.

by pickups on Jul 5, 2010 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL

Think of the car dealer endorsement opportunities.

“As a hockey player, I’ve tackled my share of SUV’s. And I know there’s no tougher SUV than…”

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by Dominik on Jul 6, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Age(?), Injury(?) and the Scott-a-Go-Go

The two best years of his career was playing the standard NHL defender. I can’t count the number of times Witt was behind the offensive goal line in the first three months under Gordon. NEVER under Nolan… NEVER when he was a CAP.
That’s one of the reasons why Sutton was so attractive. He could play that 4th forward when necessary. Witt has strength, and smarts… no speed. Never did.
I hope he’s healthy… he will be an assett to a young defensive corp. He certainly was a warrior his whole career, and maybe somebody who knows his situation gives him a shot at the deadline, or invites him to camp next year. I really don’t see him ever playing for a scott gordon coached team again… And that’s not a knock on Scott, but Witter was an oval peg in a triangular hole.
See ya in Norfolk!

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by JPinVA on Jul 5, 2010 6:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Brendan..............

God I wish he could still play for this team. I miss him.

You guys are even putting up pics of him with his hair long. Youre killing me here. :(

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by TheMetalChick on Jul 5, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of the things that's so irksome about Brendan's sitch is.....

…..he hasn’t spoken much about it publicly, and I’ve never viewed Witt as the retiring type (no pun intended) – always reminded me of a decidedly saner Pronger…..do you think somebody in the front office imposed a gag order? I’d think that Brendan would really want to clear the air after all that’s happened…..

by ogam5 on Jul 6, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's never sought media attention

And he’s very no-nonsense, comes off with a dry sense of humor. Even down on the farm he wasn’t quoted much in game stories and such. I hope we do hear from him before/after his status becomes clearer for next season.

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by Dominik on Jul 6, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice change of pace WebBard

Good article, makes it worthwhile to check up on lunch without reading another Kovalchuk story. As far as I’m concerned, dress 7 defenders half the season and let him be the enforcer with Konopka and Gillies. If for nothing else, that’s a group of enforcers I’d let go against anyone in the league. Beyond that, Witt still has his uses, and I pray he is healthy so he can go out in his own way and maybe hunt for a new contract next season with someone.

I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.

by albeezle on Jul 5, 2010 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks, it’s funny, if I had finished it about 5 minutes earlier it would have been buried. So everything worked out well, I just added the note in case someone wondered why I didn’t mention the additions on defense.

I hope he either does well enough in the AHL to get another NHL deal, or plays a handful of games close to the deadline and can get traded to a contender to finish off the season.

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by Mark D on Jul 6, 2010 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Witt

Is a character guy on and off the ice. A great veteran leader for all the youngins the Isles have on the big club and coming up through the pipeline. Plus, he came to the Isles as a Free Agent at a time when not many other players would even answer Garth’s phone calls. I say see what he can do in summer camps and pre-season. If he has anything left, he would be a good fit on a young team.

by ejcal70 on Jul 6, 2010 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Witter came to the Island when Garth didnt even have anybodys numbers yet- he was still a goalie lol ;)

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by TheMetalChick on Jul 6, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The OTT-NYI playoff series was on the NHL Network the other night, and every time I saw Snow or Cairns I pictured them conversing between faceoffs and periods, like “This is fun, but we need to think about life after hockey. I’ve got an idea.”

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by Dominik on Jul 6, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cairns – Now all we need are some good blackmail photos of Wang and Kumar…

Snow – Done and done.
 
Cairns – No, I said of Wang and – oh forget it.

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by David Hanssen on Jul 6, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

His pickup line that night

“You know, I’m gonna be a GM someday…”

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