MAB Sonnet
by Isle Of Weight on Jul 18, 2010 7:02 PM EDT
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They say what you do in the "Q",doesn't impress me you see.
But I think they're mistaken just like overcooked morning bacon.
I will continue to fawn over your plus 47 Marc-Andre Bergeron.
Are my first few sentences in this sonnet questions or merely suggestions?
There have been questions about his defense,thats for sure ladies and gents.
Is there something about his attitude that would make people think he is Sean Avery rude?
Does he not display a zest for the game or often come up lame?
I have addressed every issue from A to Zee and Marc-Andre Bergeron has nothing more to prove to me.
Let's recap,best defenseman in the "Q" is impossible to outdo.
Questions about his defense are overblown I sense.
Even when riding the bench he doesn't produce an Avery stench.
He has a desire to play without bitching for pay.
He stays pretty sound which will keep him around.
To the Island I yearn to see him return.
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Thank you Dom
I want to thank Dom for giving me the inspiration to write this sonnet.I know it is not your typical sonnet but then again MAB is not your typical defenseman.
I mentioned in your other post about MAB that the Shawinigan team he played for in the Q was 54-10-6 the year MAB was +47. I don’t think you can isolate that stat alone and deduce he is a great defensive defenseman. When you play on a team that good and you are a veteren in the league, and the teams best offensive defenseman, you are going to get a lot of playing time and thus a great plus minus. MAB was likely not paired against a teams top lines, but instead was paired with his own teams top line. You see in the NHL all the time. Mike Green has his shortcomings defensively but was a plus 54 last year. Also it the QMJHL, its a very open, high scoring league. By the way, nice sonnet. Good job.
Great idea
But we already have 7 D’s without even giving Hamonic a shot. I would move/waive Gervais in a second for MAB back but that still leaves no room for a youngster. This assumes Martinek is healthy but we cannot make any other assumption until he snaps his wrist tying his skate game 3. Also, what if De Haan has a great camp? I am nearly certain they will give him another year to develop but he could make the choice very tough. I would be happy to have MAB back, and would make the room for him if he wanted back. It would certainly help the PP.
Since both Hamonic and DeHaan will be in BP if they don't make it...
not thinking its such a big deal (the space I mean). Also considering the number of games he played I think AMac can probably still be sent down waiver free, so if Hamonic really shines they could still find a place and wait for an injury which is bound to happen.
There’s also always the off chance they can carry MAB as a seventh D-man/PP specialist, and go with only 11 forwards, I can especially see this option when Weight sits.
Note: de Haan is still juniors-tied
They couldn’t put de Haan in Bridgeport unless for some reason his OHL team declined to take him back.
If I were managing and really believed in Hamonic and/or de Haan this year, Bruno would be my guy on the hot seat going into camp.
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Ah, for some reason I thought he was done.
As for Bruno, the more and more I think about it, unless he has an extraordinary camp, or all the prospects have terrible showings, I can’t see him making the team.
The squeeze is even on at BP as far as defenseman go, you have the three K’s, Hamonic , Reese, Witt, and Wotton, if no one of them makes it.
Thanks for the compliment MatthewM11
We could go back and forth like a tennis match on the pros and cons of MAB’s game if I were an argumentative person.Who am I shittin I am argumentative.Being one of the teams best offensive threats would he not be playing against the oppositions best defensive players?And what about the 02-03 season in the AHL when he was the leagues top plus minus player,does that not count for something?
Anyways thanks for the compliment on the sonnet I do appreciate it.Also I want to say thanks to Anarcurt and Judgegavel for not leaving me alone on an Island (pun intended)in my support of MAB.
by Isle Of Weight on Jul 19, 2010 12:14 PM EDT reply actions
Let me just say I enjoy engaging in friendly debate with other Islander fans, not being argumentative for the sake of it. I appreciate your point of view and don’t entirely disagree. I enjoyed watching MAB when he was an Isle. I agree that the opinion of MAb being completely useless 5-5 in overblown. He’s not that bad defensively. But he’s not great either. As far that great season in the Q, like I said it must be taken in context with the entire team. Also we must consider his age. 19 in the Q makes you a grizzled old vet in that league. No doubt he was an important piece that teams tremendous success. But we can’t look at plus-minus alone and deduce he was a great defensive defenseman. Generally, offensive defenseman on good teams have high plus minuses. Look at Coffey’s numbers when he was Edmonton. That says little about there defensive skills. Just that he was on the ice when the big guns like Gretzky were out there. kevin Lowe, by comparison, had lower plus minus totals because he was usually out there with the checking lines. The same could be said about D. Potvin and Kenny Morrow. Now all that being said he may have been great that year at both ends of the ice. There is no real way to know without viewing multiple games from that season. But even if he great defensively, that still doesn’t necessary correlate to big league success. Its the same story with that AHL season. He played on a great team. He was (I assume) out there playing with the top two lines. All this is pretty speculative as I don’t have access to tapes of QMJHL and AHL games from 10 years ago but this would explain why an offensive defenseman with defensive shortcoming would have a high plus minus.
Isle of weight
I wrote that pretty quickly and re-reading it I realize I left out some words. Hope it makes sense. Look forward to you POV. Thanks.
MatthewM11
Paul Coffey was my favourite Oilers player other than Billy Carroll but that is an whole other story for another day.Perhaps I am a little nostalgic for an 80’s brand of hockey that was a little more offensive minded than the current NHL.I am not saying that MAB is the second coming of Larry Robinson but I do think you can win with players like him in the li-
neup as evidenced by the 06 Oilers and the 2010 Habs.
As for being argumentative it’s more a case of having a strong belief in a certain player and coming to his defense than just debating for the sake of debating.It comes down to personal opinion in the end and that my friend is what makes the world go round.
Well put. I also miss the days of more wide open higher scoring hockey. Also, going back to plus minus; we could go back and forth about whether it is an accurate indicator of a players defensive awareness or not all day, but it does show that no matter where MAB has played he has a had a positive impact for that team- and that it something I will not argue. There is surely a place on NHL rosters for offensive d-men.
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