Islanders/NHL Free Agency [open thread]
IT'S ALL ABOUT LEBRON! ... Or not. Consider this our day-long live NHL Free Agency blog and open thread. Prior (and on-going) discussion of what the Islanders should do is in the depth chart post and the overview post, but this here thread is for league-wide moves and scuttlebutt that happen today. You can catch coverage at tsn.ca (or their insider tweets) or on TV or who knows where, and chime in here as you see fit.
I will update this post with major moves as time allows, but this is also where your help is requested: By all means, post updates you hear in comments -- WITH SOURCE (and, preferably, a link). You can post rumors if you want (I'm not much of a rumor guy, but on a day like to day they are good for strategy discussion). But please: If you're posting a rumor, have the decency to tell us out of which foul spigot that rumor poured forth. (e.g. "My housekeeper's brother," or "some guy on Twitter" etc.) If this is anything like the trade deadline, this thread can be a lot of fun.
Predictions: The Islanders do something unexpected, but maybe not today. Whoever signs Marty Turco overpays for yesterday's goods. Nabokov doesn't get his money -- and if he does, that makes two goaltender mistake signings. A segment of Leafs fans think they have won the Cup because they have Kris Versteeg.
Chronology of today's signings and our, um, "varied" dialogue in comments after the jump.
***SIGNINGS TICKER***
12:05 -- Martin Biron signs with the Rag$ for two-years, $875,000 cap hit. Oh, how the starter status holders have fallen. Call him Market Correction Biron
12:20 -- Ottawa leaves the A-Train and Andy Sutton behind, signs Sergei Gonchar (who is 35+) to a 3-year, $5.5 million per deal -- with a no-trade clause. Per Darren Dreger. ... Meanwhile, Bob McKenzie says RDS La Presse puts Alex Tanguay in Calgary for $1.7 million, with a NTC.
12:30 -- Not only have the Flyers acquired Andrej Meszaros from Tampa for a 2nd, they've re-signed Brayden Coburn at $3.2 million per. They have half of Comcast's net worth tied up in defensemen.
1:15 -- Zbynek Michalek (oh, how I'd love another "Z") to Pittsburgh for 5 years, $20 million, according to multiple sources. That's two big D fish out of the water, though I can't imagine how many were willing to bid as much as the Sens did for the aging Gonchar.
1:35 -- Several minor signings: Alex Auld to Montreal ($1 million), Colby "Tool" Armstrong to Toronto for 3 years/$3 million, and a great, gutsy signing according to the Ken Holland theory of goalie value: San Jose takes Antero Niittymaki for 2 years, $2 million. Also, Philadelphia adds Sean O'Donnell. They're blueline now makes more money than the GDP of half of the FIFA World Cup participants.
1:55 -- A big but probably unrealistic bottom-six target for some of us here: Manny Malhotra takes a 3-year, $7.5 million ($2.5 annual) deal with NTC from the Canucks, per Bob McKenzie. Pricey for his production, but the former 1st rounder logs the tough minutes.
2:30 -- From multiple outlets (TSN, ESPN, Sporting News): Dan Ellis is in Tampa Bay for 2 years, $1.5 million per. Jody Shelley gets 3 years, $1.1 million per from Philly (why not just re-sign Asham?), sending Larry Brooks into a fit. But the big fish of the hour: Paul Martin lands in Pittsburgh, giving the Penguins two of the most coveted UFA defensemen. Now about those gaping holes on the wing...
3:00 -- Ladies and gentlemen, reports of Glen Sather's sanity have been greatly exaggerated: Derek Boogaard for 3 years, $1.65 million per year. That's right, Sather has just spent three times Frans Nielsen's salary on a goon who can neither skate nor score, and manages to bleed goals at four times the rate of even an average forward in under six minutes a night. Thank you, Glen: You're the best.
5:00 -- End of the "work" day but not the hunting season, and all the big-name D-men are off the market: Anton Volchenkov to the Devils for 6 years, $4.25 per {sob, sniff, weep}. Dan Hamhuis goes to Vancouver for 6 years, $4.5 million per. Even Henrik Tallinder to the Devils for 4 years, $3.375 per, while Kurtis Foster goes to Edmonton -- even EDMONTON is attracting free agents. Edmonton! -- for 2 years, $1.8 million per. And in rather Sather-esque news (though Daryll Sutter has become Sather West), the Flames brought back Olli Jokinen.
5:45 -- Matt Cullen has signed with Minnesota for 3 years, $3.5 million per.
Coliseum jinx? If Garth Snow was in on any of the top five $4 million+ D-men, they all chose teams that could be described as contenders, with new buildings. Andy Sutton remains out there, and at least one MSM reporter tweeted that Carlo Calaiacovo had been contacted by the Islanders, among many other teams.
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I couldn’t resist.
Damn Biron signing with the Rag$
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Two years, too! Ha.
Why won’t Montreal show Biron any love {sniff sniff}
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bwahahahahaha
He thinks he’s gonna play more than 15 games with Henrik around?
Don’t get this signing from his point of view at all, though I do find it fairly amusing that last year he was about the last guy to sign anywhere, so this year he decided to be first.
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Because they say his name wrong:
It’s BY-RON, not BEE-RON
Come on man. I expect better.
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
love it
Like Guy Herbert. He always pronounced it Guy as in Why, Herbert as in Sherbet. He gets to the league and makes a few saves and everyone dials up their inner Emrick – GEEEEEEEE A-BEAR!
Reminds me of a huge hockey fan I used to work with who refused to say “wha” – he always said Patrick Roy as if he were Roy Rogers. “Nice save, ROY.”
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one of my earliest hockey memories is the '93 Stanley Cup
and the announcers kept talking about how great this “Wa” guy was, and I figured he was a defenseman or something. I was so confused, thinking that they should really be praising the goalie “Roy,” because he was awesome. My dad finally explained it to me, and it made so much sense. Silly French…
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Looks like Asham and Sutton have both told Botta that they want to be Islanders. Interesting.
Id take Sutton b ack- happily, actually- as long as it was for a year or maybe two, MAX. And Asham, I dont know- how would Rick feel about that?
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Go hard after Vlchenkov...
if we can’t sign him take Sutton as a back-up but like you said ABSOLUTELY no more than two years.
by St. Joe Schmo on Jul 1, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Correction:
Go hard after the A-Train and if that doesn’t work, tell Zybie Michalak that if he doesn’t sign with the Isles…you’ll bust his kneecaps!
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d accept a year or two of Sutton if other options fell through. I’m very very worried we’d be getting his last breaths, though.
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He is a helluva lot younger than our goalie.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet our goalie could beat him in a foot race.
I just think Sutton has a very circumscribed skill set that requires full health to pull off and be effective. The older he gets, the more bodies he bangs, the more I worry his decline is right around the corner.
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I didn't know you cared about how I feel,
Rickfan wouldn’t want Asham back..I never take a step backwards. he is decent and glad he played for us, but time to move on
by Rickfansince76 on Jul 1, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
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You sound like the guy who does the infomercials for Sham-Wow. Geez.
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Have I showed you our Bass-o-matic ’76? It slices, it dices.
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IT CUTS THROUGH STEEL PIPE!
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
We’re gonna love his nuts.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Uhh… huh?!
I don’t love anyone’s nuts.
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
beat me to it, lol
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?
-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
SCORE!
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
There goes my breakfast.
Quick, hand me a sham-wow towel.
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You just had to one up me, didn't you...
THAT’S SO AWESOME!
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Biron to the Smurfs
If he plays against the Isles we know the Isles will win at least a few games now!
by IslesFanForLife on Jul 1, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions
Sheesh!
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Way too much cash.
I don’t care how many points he puts up.
by St. Joe Schmo on Jul 1, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
no-trade?
Five-to-one he waives it to go to a new contender within two years.
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LOL
No doubt. In accordance with the prophecies.
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In two years...
The Sens will be begging him to waive it.
by St. Joe Schmo on Jul 1, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s interesting. He bills himself (or his agent does) as Lidstrom material, but I think you can already notice a slowing down in Gonchar’s game. Couldn’t say that about Lidstrom at that age.
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Andy Sutton saw that and immediately broke out the suitcases.
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It sounds like he broke them out yesterday. “Hey Botta … I’d love to be back. Tell Garth.”
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(nodding in agreement)
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
smart move on his part
he has put some extra points up thanks to Sid and Malkin, so he is cashing in
by Rickfansince76 on Jul 1, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Rangers-Flames trade?
Steve Zipay is saying a press conference is in the works… TAKE BACK KOTALIK, Glen!
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GONCHAR TO THE SENS! 5.5 mill for 3 years plus NTC
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If the Sens win the cup they will praise Gonchar; if they fail miserably which is more likely they will blame Gonchar..this is a one trick pony
by IslesFanForLife on Jul 1, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Sens released a statement that they see Gonchar as a combination of Sutton and Volchenkov, but with more offensive upside if he can pass to Crosby, I mean Heatley , Chee Choo? Not him either?, well other then that and no defensive capabilities a hell of a lot older and at twice the price, but he speaks Russian so he’s exactly like Volchenkov.
Going to lunch...Be back at 1!
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I was about to go myself
Damn I wish there was a Chick-Fil-A near the office. I need me some of that honey-bbq for today.
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The Rangers once again are like “You were a backup for th Isles? Heres a contract”! I really like Biron but I hope it works out just as good as last time they did this.
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:)
Indeed. For them I guess this might make them finally trust their backup. I don’t know if they’ll trust him after they see him shake off rust once a month though.
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Inconsequential observation: The Rangers now have one of the hotter goaltending pairings in the NHL.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
hotter as in physical looks you mean not in genuine skill
by IslesFanForLife on Jul 1, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
both
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Even as a hetrosexual man, I can grudgingly confirm that observation. Dammit.
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Wellllll…
…he would have to hide his jersey the ENTIRE time.
I used to date a Canadian Leafs fan, same rule applied. ;)
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I was going to say it better be a one-night stand with the King. But on the other hand, you could really work some magic and wreck his game through a long-term relationship. Take him through an emotional roller coaster.
If you were really devoted, you’d marry him for the duration of his peak athlketic years, then dump him for half his earnings. I should probably go easy on the coffee.
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LOL! I would be such a total failure as a double agent, Dom. If a guy is confident nearly to the brink of narcissism, Ima gonna fall for him.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Biron is now making half of what Leighton is getting. Did he misjudge his value last summer or what? Now he is just sliding down the pay scale.
what happens to the cool Chico homage mask?
Does he get one painted up to look like Eddie Mio?
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Philadelphia spends and spends
They’ve re-signed Coburn for $3.2 million per, and they now have Meszeros. They have about eleventy billion of their payroll tied up on the blueline.
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There is a cushion over the summer, then they have to be closer by the start of training camp. But any RFA qualifying offers you’ve extended count against you during the summer, so sometimes you can offer the minimum Q.O., dump some money, then sign the RFA to a better raise (if necessary).
Sorry, that doesn’t make a lot of sense but the CBA drives me to drink.
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To a point. I think the summer cushion is still only around 10% (maybe 15?) or so.
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it’s the early 90’s all over again though… trapping and D was huge til the finals
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?
-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
and they still wont win the cup..a superior blue line does not guarantee a cup..the only way to win games is by putting pucks in the net
by IslesFanForLife on Jul 1, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
So...
… what’s the over/under for first Islanders signing? Noon tomorrow?
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jul 1, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions
gimme the under… we make a non-essential move before the sun sets
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?
-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
Sure, why not? Anything counts.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jul 1, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
*chuckles*
Streit and Roloson were signed on July 1, so if they have one big move in them it could be today.
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Moulson, too? I dont remember but I think he was.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL! See how much attention I paid to when we signed Moulson? Maybe Im thinking of one of the other pile of M kids that the organization signed for Bridgeport lol.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m guessing only if a ton of good D-men start to move to new teams. There’s not much that can make Snow panic, from what I can tell.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jul 1, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s the truth. I have to believe that if teams can ink major deals just minutes past 12:00 on this day, then the GMs and agents are exchanging some level of info beforehand to show the lay of the land. So Snow probably senses which of his targets is undervalued/not getting bids, and aims for them.
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ESPN Trades?
Scott Burnside to the NYR for Glen Sather in the booth, Glen then breaks his jaw in an unfortunate punching major with Lebron and both are out of action
by IslesFanForLife on Jul 1, 2010 12:40 PM EDT reply actions
That is if the Ranger fans don’t get to Sather first, on his way to the booth.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jul 1, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
We should sign Kovulchuk...
He’ll make us the -42 on goals for/goals against and he’ll help us demolish the typical 1 goal losses
Yeah, it won’t. Although it would certainly go a long way to convincing Petrov to cross the Atlantic.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jul 1, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Russian love
I always think that, too, but I do wonder if we put too much stock in that sometimes. (Thinking of Malkin v. Ovechkin, for example) I can think of plenty of Americans I wouldn’t want to work with, even if I was stuck in a strange country abroad. But Kovalchuk does sound like he’s well liked by his comrades.
In the end though, I’m too alarmed by Kovalchuk’s game to want him for the price he’ll command. He has piled up goals by playing the easiest minutes and by getting more powerplay time than any other forward (because he plays the point so much). Goals are still goals, you need them no matter what, I just worry he’s too one-dimensional.
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True, that.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jul 1, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
devs had him killing penalties and he was on the ice in empty net situations(protecting and needing a goal) though, has to mean something
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?
-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
…it means that they really wanted him to feel loved?
No, I know what you’re saying. He got much better/well-rounded after ATL gave him the “C,” too. And I’m open to the possibility I’m overthinking this. But I really get the feeling his hockey sense is a bit screwed up thanks to years of being coddled for his great shot. There are certain decisions he makes in non-puck-holding situations that a mite player should know not to do.
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The only way Kovulchuk will play for the Isles is if he scores an “own goal” when he comes to town
by IslesFanForLife on Jul 1, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
if we were 1 year further along with our rebuild… maybe, it’s like the hossa signing then, but then again, look what happened there… the bandwagons are happy with a cup, and the die hards lament losing guys we gutted through the muck with
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?
-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
Oilers going for....
Foster and Malholtra my two safety picks. Hope they wind up in a different set of orange and blue.
God, me too. If the NYI came away with that I’d be pleased. Solid upgrades.
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yeah, manny taking crucial defensive zone draws would be nice, especially clinging to that 1 goal lead with 28 seconds left
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?
-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
According to Chris Botta...
Jesse Winchester re-signed with Ottawa. He seemed disappointed at the news. Was he even on our radar screens?
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jul 1, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions
(“he” being Botta, not Winchester. I’m sure he’s pretty happy.)
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jul 1, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe it was sarcasm?
Like 1919 said, he was an RFA anyway.
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Perhaps...
Only so much personality can show through a half sentence.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jul 1, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks. Thought I was going batty there. Enjoy the rest of the madness, people. Gotta get back to work.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jul 1, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Lightning team via tweeter says they’ve signed Marty St. Louis to four-year extension.
by IslesFanForLife on Jul 1, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Cue widespread praise for Yzerman in 3...2...1
Seriously, that’s good for them. He drives the bus there so much more than Vinny Lifetime 4.
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Who doesnt want to play for Mr Hockey God Stevie Y…I would say THAT is the best off season move this year!
by IslesFanForLife on Jul 1, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Hradek is
all over Yzerman’s tip on this one. He loves it. I’m pretty sure signing a mid-30’s winger whose game is based on speed and quickness to a 4-year deal is a poor decision. That’s just me though.
how much $ though? and how old when the deal expires???
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-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
Wait, so it’s an over 35 deal? Oh man, that is risky.
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Michalek to Pitt
my next pick is gone. Where does that leave Martin? They can’t get them both can they?
According to Dreger, Z. Michalek to Pittsburgh. Why does our division have to sign everyone every year?
Well that sets
the market. Martin has to come cheaper than that with the injury and all, or at least the same money. Isles can afford that….GET IT DONE!!!!!
And that's a cautionary note
Several non-MSM sites were putting Martin in Pittsburgh as signed, sealed, delivered; meanwhile the Pens beat writer is reporting Michalek to Pitt. MSM say they had convo’s going with both, and took Z.
Also seeing a bunch of “Isles hard after A-Train” stuff, but not from MSM people.
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they spin me right round, baby, right round
So is Volchenkov going to replace Michalek in Phoenix?
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Where do our ex-isles wind up?
Bergy(You know he shows up in NY, Philly, or NJ),
Tambellini (Citgo Station),
Park (Scores 20 in Minn… all assisted by Hilbert),
Jackman (on Broadway… oh… wrong Jackman),
Sim (..to agent… “If you get mea deal make sure the coahc has a deal three times longer than mine”)
Biron [FREEBIE] (Rangers… to agent, “Dude, do you knw wha the real estate market is like… I’m on the effin north shore… and Tavares isn’t ready to buy yet…. yeah yeah I’ll take ten games behind Lund-christ…. effin Snow…”)
But what does all this mean to Jeff Tambellini?
Top notch
And you’re right about Bergy. Unless Eastern teams think the same thing the Isles do, then maybe a Western team goes for his game. (Didn’t Bowman love him? 1 year under $1 million would make him a great replacement in Chicago.)
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hmmm...
You’d think that Snowy would have leveraged that love for a salary that benefitted the Isles…. even if they signed him as an RFA he wouldn’t have been much more. He might just wind up in Pitt sliding up and down that LW depth chart…
But what does all this mean to Jeff Tambellini?
If it's Chicago love we're talking about
They really needed to save every penny they could just to fit under the cap. Even $250k is a big deal with all the slots they have left to fill. Reportedly, they have further cap problems next year (unless the magic Bettman/NHLPA rosy cap goes up again).
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Park used to be in Minn
I think he’ll end up around Phoenix or something cheap and easy.
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NJ
I think Park goes to NJ because they love defensive forwards for the PK
by Rickfansince76 on Jul 1, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting
Tamby ends in Calgary or Vancouver
Bergy in Boston
Jackman in Chicago to replace Befgulin( however you spell it)
Sim in Dallas
by Rickfansince76 on Jul 1, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
From Hockeybuzz.
“If Volchenkov finds a home on Long island, This could signal the departure of Mark Streit.” LMAO :)
bring in the russian bear, he already knows people in ny

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-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
WHY is everyone off the Island so DAMNED eager.....
…..to jettison Streit? ESPECIALLY with them having picked Nino? Do they REALLY think we’re that gullible????
I bet it’s because 1) Nobody except us glorious people pay attention to the Isles, and 2) they just assume the club can’t afford anything.
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I know. Its so stupid.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
keyboard broke...
he didn’t get to finish…
…departure of Mark Steit’s defensive partner Bruno Gervais.
actually…. the drop of the puck usually signifies that departure… NIGHTLY.
But what does all this mean to Jeff Tambellini?
Auld
on his way to MTL, 1 mil / 1 year. Thought he’d be a candidate to come in here. Still leaves Dan Ellis :)
I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.
I would love Ellis to come here, but I still think he wants a 1 spot unless we give him a longer term deal as a stopgap for when Roloson’s contract expires at the end of the year.
i think our goalie signings will be year to year for quite some time… sadly
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?
-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
Not with Koskinen, Poulin, Lawson and Nilsson in the system.
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
DP’s the constant white elephant in the room though, every year will be THE YEAR HE’S BACK!
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?
-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
It would be interesting to see, Ellis in my opinion provides a good 3-4 year window where he can be here while our prospects develop and play hard. He’s not a bad backstop, but it’s just idle speculation at this point. If given a choice of where I’d want us to make a splash, I’d rather it be a skater than goalie rightn ow.
I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.
Anton Babchuk
He wasn’t a UFA, but prodigal Babchuk is back with the Canes, per Sporting News.
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Niittymaki!
Wow! Ballsy for them. Cool. Nifty Niitty for cheap is probably a better use than Nabokov for way way too much.
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Just You Wait and See...
SJ will probably flop in the 1st Round after finally not winning the President’s Trophy.
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL. And it will be … Joe Thornton’s fault.
Seriously, Nabby had enough weak games there was really no point in them paying $5 million+ again for him. It’s a shame he didn’t realize it.
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There went my backup option 1, still leaves Ellis. I did think Nitti was pipe dream as a back-up for us, but it looks like the Sharks are being built like the Flyers if he is their number 1. He seems more like a number 1 for a team that really isn’t in contention. Tampa seemed the perfect fit.
I like that move
I think Niity-Niity Bang-Bang can be a legit number one. He also has a name rich in nickname potential.
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a name rich in nickname potential.
That’s worth an extra $500k in my book.
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Everybody monitoring Puck Daddy on here?
Seems as though he’s on top of everything as any site out there….need to step away myself, however:(
Do You Have the Link?
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Sporting News is doing a good job posting confirmed figures
Right about here.
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Supposedly they still have room for Martin
But if so, they again will have the pu-pu platter for wingers.
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Aww...Dom's hopes and dreams down the toilet...
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Crapov!
I never figured he’d come, but he does the good dirty work.
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he got
a 3yr $2.5M per contract and a no-trade
wow, that’s a big big raise is it not?
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?
-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
yea
and faceoffs are important but they aren’t worth that much
700k to 2.5 mil with a NTC
nothing says love like a 3600% raise i guess
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-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
But he was very underpaid last year
Here’s stat-zombie Gabe Desjardins (Behind the Net guy) on Malhotra:
Malhotra was literally the #1 defensive center in 08-09, with nine billion games vs Detroit and Chicago. If the market was fair, he’d sign for $5M, but it undervalues his skills.
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Carlo Coca is a thing to say, on a warm and sunny July day
Blues beatwriter Jeremy Rutherford:
Blues free-agent d-man Carlo Colaiacovo has heard from Phoenix Tampa Bay Buffalo Atlanta Florida Minnesota and NYIslanders.
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see, that's what I don't get
Nice that they’re addressing the depth problems on D with NHL-level guys, but… but… but (x150,238)…
Carlo? Why? No different than Hillen, A-Mac, FMIV. We need not just more defenders but guys who fill different niches: a crease-cleaner or a first-class two-way guy. Volchenkov is a guy we don’t have. Martin is a guy we only have one of (Streit), and whom one more would be very valuable. What’s goin’ on with this Carlo dealio?
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A sort of tweener
I think he’s that in-between guy: He’s more physical (and bigger) than Hillen, and can move the puck better than A-Mac or FMIV.
If he has that many bidders I hope they pass, though. He’s better than he was in Toronto, but the injury history is still frightening.
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exactly
Reminds me of something Joe Posnanski quoted from Bill James, about Earl Weaver – the types of guy he NEVER used were the .260/10 hr guys who could play a little defense and steal a base here and there. Not that those guys aren’t valuable in spots, but you have to get guys who have one or two standout skills as well, and then put them in position to succeed with those skills. They’ve done that with Frans (defense, faceoffs, shootouts), with Moulson (head to the net and clean up), they’re finding guys with more high-end skill now even if they’re not jacks of all trades.
Carlo is that .260/10 guy. Too many of those are a certain recipe for tenth place.
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I could buy that
I still have hopeful glasses trained on Carlo; and I’m obviously shellshocked from watching too much of Bruno in positions he can’t handle.
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agree. Its the difference between having one 50 goal scorer and three guys that net you 17. They get you more goals in total, but there’s no way to get them all on the ice at the same time. At this point the Islanders can use a few jack of all trades, but to take a step up you need players with elite skills at what they do best and use them in the right situtation.
Damn 'Nucks
I realize it is Canada Day and all, but did they have to go take my third line Center. I didn’t expect much, but my stocking is starting to fill up with coal. Malholtra, Michalek, Nitti, and I thought I was keeping my expectations modest.
Back Up Goalie
I believe the Isles will sign Nathan Lawson as there emergency(year long?)back up goaltender.But I still gotta wonder would Dubie doo?
Just saw this on PD, but how about Chris Higgins? He's only 27...
and a local boy, and a former 20 goal scorer (I think). He’d be a solid guy. Is there any big problems with him, besides the fact that he was awful last year?
3 times 20-goal scorer
But bad for two seasons in a row. So I think many outside of Calgary are scared. No idea what to make of his dropoff.
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Anybody else on the weather channel.com
No sign of Snow… ANYWHERE?
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The silent assassin
…or the Isles don’t buck up for a T1 line in the Coliseum. Either or.
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Wang wants every last drop..
of interest on that $13M
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Snow's office...
CLICK CLICK CLICK…“Mornin’ Mabel, can you get me Anton Volchenkov’s agent.”

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by JPinVA on Jul 1, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it would be worth it
I’d love to see a convoy of giant black Hummers with tinted windows scream into the Coli parking lot – they empty out with security guys in suits, followed by Garth lookin’ unruffled, followed by Volchenkov, Martin, and Frolov. They do the slow-walk up the front doors and push them open to the awe-filled gasps of the fans…
Garth: Welcome home, guys. Let’s meet the rest of the crew.
Frolov: Why do I have to be Mr. Pink?
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LOL!
Awesome. Jay-Z gets to be involved too, right?
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Does Jay-Z even know what hockey is?
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by David Hanssen on Jul 1, 2010 5:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
what's the rush?
I’m sure he’s talking to people, doing his best. Probably working hard on the big fish, let’s just hope he lands them before the cubbard’s bare
All I’m seeing is Fleury’s LOLOLOLOLOL
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
MORRIS RE-SIGNS IN PHX FOR 4 YRS $11 MIL
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Too bad they couldn’t have kept Zyb Mik instead, not a bad move at all, but I think they let a real good defender go.
I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.
please make martin a six million dollar man
he’s worth it.
For $6 million, I want some offense
But I do covet Martin.
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ELLIS TO TAMPA BAY?!
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Ridiculous Scratch
The way all these players are making out, I am really happy Garth has NOT signed any of them.
Let Us Go, Islanders! (Ever notice how strange that sounds without the contraction?)
I love this stuff:
@Russostrib: I’m hearing enforcer Derek Boogaard is minutes from signing somewhere.. long-term
[>]
@NHLSourcesSay: Im told Derek Boogaard to the Islanders or Rangers. We’ll see, stay tuned…
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@AlBeezle: that team…. could not be the Islanders. Doesn’t fit the team profile at all. Unless he signed for minimum would be -5 sense
[>]
@NHLSourcesSay: Source says Derek Boogaard to the Rangers is done. Im trying to confirm, stay tuned…
I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.
He is an awful, awful hockey player
Fearsome fighter for his 3 minutes, but he gives up more goals per minute of ice time than anyone.
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the feeblest of feebs.
I want a big tough enforcer no doubt, but please for the love of mercy on Long Island, do not let it be him.
I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.
We’re better off having Trevor “Crazy Eyes” Gillies for a fraction of what the Boogeyman makes. It’s just Sather being Sather.
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by David Hanssen on Jul 1, 2010 5:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I love Sather...
…first McIlrath and now this (although might not be much $, but any time he’s on the ice is a losing preposition). I’m glad he’ll have to pull an Isiah Thomas to ever get fired. Dolan’s an idiot.
He replace sShelley who is now a Flyer. Why does it seem like the Flyers and Pens have a different cap than everyone else? Do they just buy everything and then sell off the parts for a loss before the season starts? They shop like my wife, “I bought all this stuff on sale and now that I don’t want it we givie ti to charity so that I can write it off on our taxes for a loss.”
Jody Shelley
three year deal worth $1.1M per year.
by St. Joe Schmo on Jul 1, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Now why wouldn’t they just re-sign Asham for that kind of money?
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Would love...
to have Asham back, and he’d probably come cheap. Does this pretty much max out Philly for the cap?
by St. Joe Schmo on Jul 1, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Rangers...
probably move on Boogard now that Shelley is out.
by St. Joe Schmo on Jul 1, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Finally...
an answer to the Rangers inept offense…
They really get the NEW NHL.
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from puck daddy...
“Pens willing to go $4.5 on Martin. And AT LEAST five years for cap purposes”. Match???
HAVE to match. But in his shoes, he might like the better chance at a Cup year after year.
I still don’t get where the Pens are going to get scoring wingers from though.
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ELLIS TO TAMPA 2 YRS $1.5 MIL PER
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Ouch Town Population...THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY!
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn.
Still stunned they got both Martin and Z.
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A-Train and Hamhuis are still out there.
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Where they headed?
Realistically, who’s left to bid on them? I guess there was that word that Vancouver could fit Hamhuis in. And the whole A-Train to Washington theory.
Hmmm…dial Kurtis Foster.
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Really like Foster on the Isles
I think he would be a great fit and a possible 2nd unit PP guy.
P.S. JT Bourne is getting antsy wondering where Garth is:
“Ummm, Garth? Mr. Snow? /Clicking hang up button on 1980’s rotary phone… "
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/2613
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
That is what names like crosby and malkin will do for a team
by IslesFanForLife on Jul 1, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Returning Isles
The only ones that want to take a gamble on playing for the Isles are the ones that have already been here and know it doesnt suck ass as much as everyone else things it does. Weight can only make so many calls to people saying “Hey Im telling you it really doesnt suck”
BOOGIE MAN TO THE RAG$!!!
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Per Brooks
“NYP_Brooksie: Regarding @Russotrib report of Boogaard 4 yrs/1.65M per——it’s going to be the Rangers.”
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
and Rechlicz rejoices knowing he’ll at least have something to do for a few games next season.
I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.
I think Gordon warmed up to Rechilcz, maybe next season is the year he finally has more Ice Time then PIM.
The Swiss are Coming, The Swiss are Coming!
to be honest Webby, great kid, but doesn’t have much of a role. Should never exceed a two way deal where he can get the call for a few of those scrum games.
I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.
Just run him and Gillies up and down through the two-way shuttle to handle Boogaard.
God, Boogard sucks so bad, and so many Rangers fans are going to love him for cheap-shotting someone.
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I Lol’d. That’s about $1M per too much for the Boogie Man.
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He’s going to look great setting up Gaborik. He’s definitely the premium center that they needed. I can really see him filling the EXACT same role as Brashear last season.
lol!
Ha, thats great
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Thinkin that the Rangers are hoping Stepan steps into that role as their #1 pivot.
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome awesome awesome!
He can drag the Rangers down all year long!
The only risk to us is if he takes out one of our young players with a knee, which he is prone to doing, but maybe they just throw Gillies out there for those three-minute games.
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Hey Guys
Checking in from my parents place real quick.
I told you all that Biron was going to stay within a reasonable distance from Buffalo. That’s probably one of the reasons we didn’t trade him at the deadline.
Also I’m surprised the Lightning let Nittymaki get away, considering he was their best goalie last year. He is going to be dangerous in SJ if he’s the starter. He’s never had a good defense in front of him.
The Swiss are Coming, The Swiss are Coming!
Blogging from your mother's basement? :)
I really do think Niitty can do the job in SJ. Only fear is his health, maybe consistency.
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THAT'S INSANE MONEY!
Now watch for Volchenkov to ask for minimum $5 per for 4 years
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Pens tie up $9 million on 2D next year alone and they still got both players at what I think is fair market value. These aren’t Redden type deals. Does anyone know where they compared to cap ceiling? Hamhuis in 3D was too expensive I guess and now I have to think he was looking to go West.
they had 11.3 roughly to spend
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-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
How many players under contract? That leave 2.3 millions but do they have any wingers signed? Does that include bonus money and raises that go to their RFAs?
no clue, just going by the THN atlantic div FA preview article
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-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
I guess at least we were all right about the going rate for these D-men. I didn’t think these cap-pushing teams had the room for it.
So, the question is: If that’s the going rate, would you guys go up to $6 million X 5 to get one of them in an Islanders uniform? That’s a lot of Wangbucks.
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no, not unless you can compete for a cup in each of those 5 years you shouldn’t do it
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-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
not a chance thats way too much and too long…you’ve def. gotta consider the contracts these young forwards and d-men are gonna need whent their entry level deals expire
$30 milllion
for Volchenkov is too steep and I wouldn’t blame them if they don’t go that high. Unfortunately they aren’t going to be getting any discounts for having a new arena and a legit shot at the Cup any time soon.
The Caps must be hating these moves by the Pens since it overlaps with their Cup window.
Caps need to worry...
if Montreal gets more shot blocking defenders…
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NO
I’m sorry but a guy who produced roughly 16 pts and led the league in shot-blocking is not worth $6 per.
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreeing with the chorus here
So it’s too much. And the next step is, return to patience, develop within (please Hamonic, please!) and hopefully grab a guy like Foster with a little overpayment/security to make it worth his while.
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Wangbucks - sorta like...

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-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
no way
hamius for that much, yes! not V. hamius has only missed 6 games in his pro career. i would be happy with hamius and Mckee and 1-2 more forwards with upside….maybe torres as a physical winger, or patrick o’ sullivan who is on waivers from phx
what about mckee
he has played well for pittsburgh and he has not been resigned. 32 y/o, 6’4", physical and can move pretty well for a vet. i would take him for 3 years at about $2.5-$3 million a year. i liked sutton, but to injury prone and i think he hit his peak last season with nyi/ott…forget about asham…they have matt martin for the same role/similar point production…..
McKee is fairly injury prone the last few years too, but I could take a flier on him. Not for more than $2 million though. Without checking his rates last year, I think he’s become pretty average even for a stay-at-home guy.
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mcklee made 4 million last year. i would love to see hamius + mckee; and torres and o’sullivan as 4 signings…probably less than $5 for hamius at 5 years; $2.5 for mckee for 2 years, torres at $2 for 3 years; O’sullivan at $3 for 2 years as quality FA signings…..and go to camp with those as the free agent signings
He made $4 million only because the Blues gave him that ridiculous 4-year, $16 million deal when they were a 30th-place club (and then bought him out).
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i know the blues gave him that ridonculous contract but if we could get him for half that and half as many years…but this is the island, where they need to ante up a little more than the average bear…mckee is worth $2 a year for a quality team….but the isles would need to go $2.5 for the same player…that is why i stated the possible offer at that rate
I don’t know, his market may have dropped enough where he’d happily take an Isles offer or any NHL offer. His minutes were the lowest among Pens D-men last year. He looks to me like one of those guys whose rep had dropped as his age has increased.
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you guys remember this:
http://www.lighthousehockey.com/2010/6/14/1514226/ten-low-cost-fas-who-might-be-on
I’m just sayin’…..
I’m not too worried either way, I’m confident they’ll add someone on the blue line. The prices were a little higher than I expected though.
I pretty much trust in Garth. (And even if he offered the Moon to these guys, they can still obviously just go to the pretty team in Pittsburgh, etc.). But I’d really like them to land one so that they don’t feel more compelled to rush one of the prospects or talk us into thinking Martinek will play a full season.
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I like Pauly…
Although I think about 1/3rd of the list either re-signed or went to Europe to play.
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Haha, I was waiting for that update. That was my impression, but those minor league punks should’ve waited until July 2!
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And the second-tier market is active
Oh, to be tapped into Snow’s phone line…
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This is what fans get for complaining about the advanced season-ticket deposits.
“If you just would have paid up, we could have afforded more minutes on the July phone plan.”
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could you imagine Snow on let’s say a Boost! prepaid or something. 2 mins from closing the deal on Volchenkov and his mins run out. He has to go out and buy a phone card and the rest is….history. Hahah.
I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.
On the other hand
that could remind Volchenkov of phone service in Russia. “Ahhh, iz like home, yes.”
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What is the difference between Boogard and I? (or any of us)
I mean… I could show up at MSG right now and make 500 k couldn’t I? frig. What am I doing here?
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haha, excellent. I’m 6’3, 220 ! That should be enough for a look right? I never really played forward, I preferred D, but I could be a ham sandwich at this point.
I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.
Perfect! You’re hired. All goons end up as wingers anyway.
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Less defensive responsibility. Cover the point you bastard.
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Just go out there, growl at someone, and get back to the bench before the puck’s in our zone again.
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Pretty much.
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
OH MAN
It’s Ogie OGOALTORPE (Yes, I spelled it wrong on purpose).
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Trying times for that young man
…what with the litigation, the notoriety, his deportation to Canada and that country’s refusal to accept him….
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Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing?
There are few things in this world I enjoy more than the English getting beaten like a rented mule.
by David Hanssen on Jul 1, 2010 5:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
anyone that takes money over quality from the KHL does not have the “dream to win a stanley cup” just the desire to have more money. Real players have the dream over the wallet. all these moves today enforce that dream..you dont see the teams that didnt make the playoffs really going nuts today. every UFA is going after the dream
by IslesFanForLife on Jul 1, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Either way, the KHL represents theoretical leverage. Sounds like A-Train is set on the NHL, but if his agent can use the K threat to squeeze a few more dollars…
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I think
the KHL sounded like a good idea at first to the Russian born players but I don’t think there’s anyway that league can last w/ the money they’re laying out to lure players. Also the travel schedule and amenities are pretty poor. Very low quality of life. I think word is starting to spread that the KHL isn’t all it’s cracked up to be
some of the fights are pretty cool though..there was one this season with only like 5 players LEFT between the 2 teams..ahh the good old days of the NHL
by IslesFanForLife on Jul 1, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
KOVI
8 years 98 mil, cap floor issue solved
at the press conference, he says he’s anxious to put a tattoo chair in the locker room for Kabanov, and that Yashin hasn’t ruled out coming back if we all apologize in unison
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?
-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
if JP was on the ball, i wouldnt have to play this role (his are much more in depth)… but i havent seen him on here in a while :-)
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?
-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
He is probably drinking and sobbing over Bergie. These things take time.
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speaking of bergie, a powerhouse team with no wingers and little cap room may be his next stop
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-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
Tank’s successor in Pittsburgh?
And with all this D money, do the Pens give McNulty Guerin another go at veteran minimum?
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Getting my hopes up...Starting not to like you.
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry, i’m really not a devil like they say, i am more like an angel
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-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
LMAO! :D
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
you're a much better me than me...
Damn the sober!
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RAY WHITNEY TO THE YOTES $3 mil
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Did not see that one coming
Huh. Whitney must be retirement home shopping. Needs the perfect golf course to live on.
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Should the NHL be handing out over 35 guaranteed contracts? This is a team that is spending NHL money and not an owner’s correct?
Good point
In theory, the money spent for next season is out of Ice Edge’s pocket. Still a killer that they let Z walk and re-signed Morris. Different budgets, but man…
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I thought IceEdge had proven they had the financing, but still had not actually boight the team. I’m further confused since Doug Moss was fired as president last week and IceEdge had nothing to do with the move if news accounts are correct. My understanding was that the sale would happen no later than December if it were to happen at all.
Yeah, they don’t have the team yet, but basically Glendale has to cover losses next year or make the new owner do it.
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HA!
You guys are all cracking me up today!
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Very Interesting point...
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by IslesOfficial on Jul 1, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Fun Fact
There is actually a clause in the CBA that compensates players in the event of franchise location, and it’s something absurdly minimal like $5,000 or something.
The things you uncover when trying to decipher that ghastly document.
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no-movement clause
So that’s why so many people skated around him last season.
Of course I'm an expert, I've seen Slap Shot eleven times!
This made my day...any signings would be gravy
NYP_Brooksie: As of this moment, Rangers will be cap-charged with $3.05M for Boogaard and Brashear.
But still...
not as much as our whirlpool goaltender… and not NEARLY as much as we spend on “domestic” caviar.
Just to take us back to reality.
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You party-pooper, don’t you rain on my Rangers schadenfreude.
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I always wondered...
how to spell that word.
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Hamhuis offers are around $30 mil for 6 years-TSN
Isles can afford that but is it worth it?
i dont want to lock in hamhocks for that long to be honest…
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-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
Me neither
6 years is a long time, and I’m not totally sold on him (which could be my own ignorance, admittedly).
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Thinking of grabbing late lunch
So if any Isles signings are announced, you can thank me. (Unless they’re bad.)
Any requests? Pizza?
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CBs comments section is such a frickin whinefest, jeez.
I will never understand some Isles fans.
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My dis-association...
was most likely a mutual agreement… but I enjoy what CB brings to the table… but can not find the value in reading or posting htere anymore…
I’m sure Dom (plus Webby and Dave) are wondering why I don’t go away as well…
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Exactly
…and if he does release your sacred thoughts it’s right before he closes the thread… why bother.
No biggie… at least he hasn’t started charging like some “news(?)” sources.
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The thing I dont get is that he moderates and deletes the posts from people who interest me, but he lets certain whiny crabby fans completely take over the comments section. He will delete – I mean “moderate” if any of us say pretty much anything, but he leaves up things that some kids say that are ridiculous (like the fans posted 9034785234890573490 times that Bailey should have been playing in the AHL when he was not eligible! I remember posting explaining that he couldnt play in the AHL and that it made no sense to rag on the organization for that… and Bota deleted my post, but left up the one bashing the Isles for not having Josh in Bridgeport. So stupid.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
not worth the time there, that’s why I hang out here to read some perspective.
I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.
I always check his site, its only the comments section that I really should just stop reading. but on days like today, the posts ARE the comments section, you have no choice if you want to see wth he might say.
The comments section here is 100 times better, honestly. I Could only wish to get convos like these going on the Islanders Arena board lol.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
yea; freedom of thought is a great way to engage people and bring them together. I remember a chat around the deadline when CB ripped JP on a legit question he asked. so stupid.
I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.
Yep
That endid it for me… like I said… mutual… you should see some of the email conversations we’ve had. Great guy, I’m sure.
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We used to talk, he would even write to me occasionally before the explosion of IPB when he had a relatively unknown blog. He’s given me lifts before (we live close to one another) but now he acts like he hardly knows me. Im not upset aobut it, but it really is odd.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
you guys too
I thought maybe I was the only one who wound up getting moderated into non-existence over there.
Oh well, I’ll always have the “Subterranean Hempstead Blues.”
Of course I'm an expert, I've seen Slap Shot eleven times!
I’m sure Dom (plus Webby and Dave) are wondering why I don’t go away as well…
Haha, not at all, my friend. Every site needs its kooks and whackjob conspiracy theorists. ;)
Seriously though, commenters with a sense of humor, a thirst for debate, and the confidence that it’s all fair to banter over a drink (or a tea)? This is exactly what I always hoped for. You guys are all great, and I’m grateful for it.
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Want you to go away?
I mean you were a bit of a downer at first, but I enjoy your wild posts. Your a good pick-me-upper if its a depressing day of news.
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Thanks...
“Downer”… really… well.. then… I quit!
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UGHHHH
Can Garth do something to excite us please!
proof the man can negotiate, just give a little time


Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?
-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
When I met Garth nobody had a camera.
Id bet those chicks are kinda wishing the same thing.
Heh.
Garths alright though, honestly. :) If I was into gray haired guys, he might make the list.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
If I was into gray haired guys, he might make the list.
ouch, done in by my sprouting grays before i even meet you… lol
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-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
Im not getting any younger- its got to change sooner or later right lol?
I remember in HS when I only liked guys with long hair- that changed, since guys have jobs/lives/receding hairlines and long hair just isnt practical for most guys anymore lol. Heck Ive even dated bald guys! :)
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
ha! so you’re almost willing to ‘settle’ for me, excellent!
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-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
Its not about settling, its about NOT becoming a cougar.
See, guys can be all into chicks 10-20y younger than them. When its a woman doing that, IMO we look pretty silly. I dont date ANY guys 5+y younger than me anymore.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
My sister won’t hear anything of that lament. She will rob the cradle until an angry mother keys her car.
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LMAO!
Ha, sounds like a few of my friends. I have a friend who is 37 who is shall we say interested in a 22yo.
He is in a national band that was around when we were kids, though- so its different… somehow lol.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL. That does add an interesting element. “You’re like my own Michael Hutchence, except living.”
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haha, you arent ‘old’ though are you? you still start with the #3 right?
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-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
Oh sure, plenty of threes left. Maybe Im just in a mood because I went out last night with 8 of my friends from junior high and HS and I was the only single chick there lol.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
LEt me clarify- not a BAD mood, just a mood because Im so not used to that. Nearly all my current friends are single.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a cycle...
all my friends were single, then they got married, now they are single again… this is AMERICA.
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thats what my aunt told me. She said I will find a guy I am actually willing to date once they all start getting divorced. I told her that was morbid, but hell maybe she had a point lol
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW
In light of the FA frenzy- look at wth we are talking about here LMAO!
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
oh the parallels
“It’s not about the money. I’m looking for a partner I can be happy with and build something special together. Okay but money helps, sure.”
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Unfortunately...
That’s because THIS is what Garth is reading!
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LMAO!!!!!!
You guys really do crack me up.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Just for Men
Just Five Minutes!
Garth wasn’t grey until this GM job got to him, was he?
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i’ve almost bought that 5 times this year, i just cant commit to it yet
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?
-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
Ha! Girls highlight/lowlight/straighten/whatever their hair ALL the time. Theres nothing wrong with a guy doing something to- I mean, if he is into the idea.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Viagra...
It’s so much more cost effective.
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no thanks, no problems raising the flag, i’m only 33 for Pete’s sake (pun intended)
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-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
I’ve had 20-year-olds try to sell me on its extra merits, no joke. No thanks, I’ll wait until the pipes start creaking!
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sheesh
Thats what 20yo guys are doing now?
Im so out of touch lol.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
@ 45...
I can get by without it… but when we both fall asleep it keeps me from rolling off the bed.
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Tallinder to NJ
blah. Wouldn’t have minded him on the Island. Not a bad defender at all.
I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.
i actually wanted him… a nice presence for a young D to have to lean on
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-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
me too. Once he got over his skittishness after his injury he was a solid two way defender.
I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.
I was skittish on Tallinder for no good reason. I just think that after we got Satan and Zhitnik from the Sabres I get bad mojo taking there UFAs.
Ha, me too. It’s impossible to keep track of everyone anyway, so some guys I just go on impressions from two years ago.
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So far the only deal I’ve seen today, where I’m bummed that we couldn’t do better. Other players I wanted went at a price point that although was fair was also justifiable to walk away from. Not sure why his agent went with that low of an offer from a team that cannot attract free agents for the life of them and seeing the market for defensemen. Maybe I am overvaluing Foster?
His leg greak was a freak accident and I’m hypocritical that I don’t see him as being a big injury risk and yet I have reservations about Caliacovo.
same average games played per year as radek (50ish) over the last 5 years
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-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
I know. That’s why I have this irrational feeling that he isn’t fragile when all facts point to a lot of games missed recently. Then again, facts are just opinions with proof to back it up.
I used to say the same thing about Martinek. (Freak injuries!)
Foster’s really was some kind of freak though. And he stayed health this year, didn’t he? Colaiacovo still managed to find bad voodoo.
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just posted at NHL.com, that stinks I wanted him
what was the deal?
by Rickfansince76 on Jul 1, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t like his character, he’s been on four teams in less than a month. Must be a locker room cancer.
by Hockey1919 on Jul 1, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
*** BREAKING NEWS ****
The NY Islanders have signed former Boston Bruin defenseman, Jim Panzie for 2 years @ $2.7M/yr.
Panzie led the Bruins in PIM (Pucks in Mouth) the last two years. Last year he broke the long standing franchise record held by Mike Milbury.
At 3’’ 2", Garth Snow says, “Panzie will add size, and a certain level of grit to our blue line”.

Panzie, pictured here was suspended for 5 games for a feces throwing incident… nobody was harmed.
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by JPinVA on Jul 1, 2010 4:12 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
He could have a guest spot on the Simpsons as Mr Teenys rich cousin.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Panzie has been suspended seven times
Each time for feces-throwing incidents during an altercation…
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how does he do it, i can’t even pee when there’s other people around… i get stagefright
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-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
No more calls...
we have a winner…. you just made me laugh in the middle of a budget meeting… BASTARD!
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lol, good screw your budget and work on the isles budget instead
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-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
job well done
Now we’ve got to get Garth laughing in the middle of a budget meeting.
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considering his lifespan is only going to be until about 40, at that rate we may as well just sign Butchie to a 1y and see how he does. ;)
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
that figures
really trying to get Marty another cup
by Rickfansince76 on Jul 1, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
$4.25 million per
At these figures, I’m thinking every D-man has gone the “I wanna be a contendah!” route. Alas. We will stab them with our de Haans and smash them with our Hamonics.
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Alas. We will stab them with our de Haans and smash them with our Hamonics.
nicccccccce
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Gorillas are more the “stay-at-home” types, no?
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
ba-boom-crash *rimshot*
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
CAN HE POSSIBLY...
spend $10M on mediocrity… Does he think he’s DISNEY?
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Seriously...
he does nkow he has to reach the floor right?
by St. Joe Schmo on Jul 1, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
If he pulls this off..
maybe he was right about nobody want to play here because of the building…
…and the winner for the best self-fulfilling prophecy of the decade…. GARTH SNOW!
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Crap
I’m not in panic mode, but seeing the last few big D names off the table is disheartening. And I don’t want this to makes us dump a bunch of money on a Colaiacovo.
Yashin’s peak cap hit this year: a “blessing,” it turns out.
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We need at least four guys, right?
I don’t think you’re going to be able to justify paying $10 million over four of the remaining players. How are the other guys on the team going to react that some passers-by are making twice as much as those who are expected to be there long term (or have been there long term already)?
Bob I, I’m beginning to wonder about your piece on Kovi. There’s not many players left to justify paying that money to.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jul 1, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Can NJ still fit Kovi in after this? (Surely not, right?) So it’s LA or Russia or bust for him? One year, $7 million blind date?
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Why the heck not?
If you’re not going to have defense, you might as well have lots of offense.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jul 1, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
my kovi farce is
getting a little too real
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-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
Instead of signing a free agent...
He’s decided to give the whole team a 25% raise…. and they are STILL UNDER THE CAP FLOOR.
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Bourne reporting Tambi to Vancouver on one year deal
ehhhhh. Nobody else reporting it yet though.
I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.
I’m sort of surprised the Pens didn’t go there. Seriously. Put him with those two centers and it’s like Crosby turning Andy Hilbert into a 25-goal pace.
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funny how..
one ex-islander is all about nepotism… and another would rather eat glass than sign his son… the latter is obviously the smarter.
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oh yeah that was my prediction earlier, there or Calgary
I think he lights up the net 15 times easily out there with the twins
by Rickfansince76 on Jul 1, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Oooooh, that's rich
So Hedberg holds out for too much as a backup and loses his job. Mason holds out for too much as a starter and gets Halak’d, and now he’s in Atlanta as a 1A.
The young Isles better shoot five-hole when playing the Thrash.
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LADD to the Thrashers
After Versteeg I thought the budget issues were done. Maybe we reach the floor by trading fro Huet and Campbell.
TSN waffling in the LADD deal.
could still happen, may have happened, pending.
Ladd for
a second and Visnevsky. Could Chicago be looking at dealing one of their D since they brought in V?
Niklas Hjalmarsson...
is an RFA maybe the Isles put out an offer sheet for him.
by St. Joe Schmo on Jul 1, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, why not? They are in firesale mode still.
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Hjalmarsson was one of the reason they were unloading Versteeg, Ladd and Big Buf. Can’t believe the list of players I just typed that the Hawks just got rid of and they still have two lines better than the Isles.
Insane, isn't it?
And had they managed contracts better, they’d still have half those guys.
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Calgary taking Jokinen back
So to summarize, Glen Sather runs the Rangers, Senators and Flames.
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he wasn't in Calgary long
if I remember right he was there from on etrade deadline to the next
by Rickfansince76 on Jul 1, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
OK...so who will be the dman we sign??
top guys are gonzo
I say Sutton
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Aaaand, five hours later
I am back to right there with you! LOL. I don’t promise to be consistent, but I profess to be honest.
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Big Andys lookin pretty good right now, aint he lol?
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
who'd have thought...
we’d be setting ourselves up for a huge disappointment when Andy signs elsewhere… When they traded him I said, and I’ll reiterate… it’s gonna be hard to find a big defenseman that can be successful under Gordon… it’s getting harder every day.
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I said, and I’ll reiterate… it’s gonna be hard to find a big defenseman that can be successful under Gordon… it’s getting harder every day.
So true, and thats why I have always been 100% open (and even an advocate) of bringing him right back here again. As long as he does not get more than 2y, it would be 100% fine with me!
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
UFAs aren’t the only way to get to the floor. There are now a few teams that need to shed payroll. Vancouver, for example, may have a glut on defense. Pittsburgh has no wingers and may need to move Orpik or another D. So all hope is not lost as long as nobody wnats anything in return becasue the Isles are painfully thin on assets.
So with Martin gone, who would be our next best fit on Defense?
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Maybe...
Kim Johnsson, Pavel Kubina, Sutton, idk just throwing out some names.
by St. Joe Schmo on Jul 1, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we should be very happy to get Sutton back.
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I'm sure...
Nobody here would riot if he signed for the right price. I think people were expecting something more from Garth. But hey the day’s not over yet here’s hoping he proves me wrong.
by St. Joe Schmo on Jul 1, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I was expecting more — and I didn’t expect the Isles to be rejected by ALL of the big names, but part of that is because I could not imagine PIT and NJ fitting these big names into their payroll. Thought there would be one left standing after the musical chairs stopped.
I live, but do not learn.
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WELLLLLLLLLLL......
…..as thoroughly disgusted as I am at the persistent perception by these players and agents of the Island as some sort of shinny Siberia, it’s now just a matter of our boys showing them the grave error of their ways on the ice come October – and well beyond!
The song doesnt end a few hours into FA, Dom.
There are some teams with guys sharing chairs… they will have to get up and get moving soon enough.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Willie Mitchell?
BIG head risk (literally, because of concussions), but if he’s healthy he’d be great. They can afford to wait and have him see some doctors though.
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Chris Chelios
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Randy Jones...
28 year old from the Kings.
by St. Joe Schmo on Jul 1, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Was going...
to put him on the list but then i thought better of it lol.
by St. Joe Schmo on Jul 1, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Messier says
“Wear the M11 helmet, and it will protect you from even my cheap shots.”
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Defense Cocktail
1 part Willie, ! part Marty… just add ice… and then heat, and then ice again… then heat again
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Mike Weaver?
Hate to go to the bargain bin so quickly, but there is reason to believe he’s a damn good penalty killer and goal preventer on the blueline.
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Hamhuis is a Nuck
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Pretty funny that two teams traded for his rights and yet Vancouver was the most-rumored destination all along. If I could count on making $4 million-+, there’s no way in hell I’d sign before July 1 with some team that traded a pick just to speak with me early.
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Happy Canada Day!!!
Since my prime defense choices seem to be off the board,
Mitchell and Grebeshkov
Stempniak and Asham
Dunno about a backup for Roly though
That’s right — Nashville didn’t qualify Grebeshkov, did they? I was more excited about him before this season. Worried he plateaued.
I would gun for Frolov before taking the Stempniak clearance sale.
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Pair Denis with Mark
and Mitchell with Hillen and Martinek with MacDonald. Frolov would be nice but I am not optimistic.
But but, it's not just us!
Bob McKenzie says Kings “bitterly disappointed” at missing out on the big UFA D’s.
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which actually makes not much sense
The Kings have a top four of Doughty, Scuderi, Johnson, and Matt Greene. You could upgrade Greene for sure, and for some reason Dean Lombardi thinks that Jack Johnson is a sack of dog snot. Maybe sign ONE of them, so Greene can play third pair, and then hope to have enough money for Kovi. It’s not like they need five more guys to contend next season.
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Good point
I didn’t even think about the statement when he made it; sounds like smoke then.
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The horror... The horror...
Just got into Beloit, Wisconsin on my way to St. Paul and man I heard nothing on any sports radio through Toledo, Chicago and Rockford on the NHL free agency. Get into the hotel and check TSN to see the Isles have done next to nothing other than packing Jeff Tambellini’s bags for him. Not surprised, just disapointed.
There are few things in this world I enjoy more than the English getting beaten like a rented mule.
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Road trip
I know that feeling. Driving for hours, hoping and thinking at least there is some kind of cool news when you get back to hockey-appreciating civilization. Alas.
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BC comes through with a pic!
Nice! Moose on hormones up there?
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they seem even bigger at night
when you have been driving for 10-12 hours and you are fighting off sleep. Night is when they tend to come out. and there are absolutely no lights on the roads in between towns—which is often an hour or two.
nothing other than packing Jeff Tambellini’s bags for him. Not surprised, just disapointed.
How could anyone be disappointed in that? :)
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
has anybody ever told you..
you are one cold hearted…. well.. you know the rest.
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Not Surprised at this at all
Snow is not going to overpay anyone. Look at the Brian Campbell deal, everyone was all for it and Chicago was excited to get him just two years ago and now it’s considered an Albatross.
de Haan, Harmonic, Ness, DeHart, Witt, Meyer, Gervais, Hillen, Kotic, Kohn, Martinek, MacDonald and Reese are 13 Dmen. Guesstimate that Garth brings in one or two more depth/AHL guys and your talking about 15 Dmen who are in camp fighting for 5 spots. Obviously MacDonald and Hillen should make it, but I think it’s going to be an open competition. Just having a 1 way contract isn’t going to save you if you from playing in BP if you can’t cut it. Come hell or high water the Islanders are going to see what this collection of Dmen can or can not do.
It would have been nice to add one more Streit level Dman, but my guess is that either Gordon or Snow have a lot of faith in someone to break out this year out of that grouping.
I would like to see them picking another quality backup though, even Emery wouldn’t be bad. I’m still not sold on Rollie losing a step or two this year.
The Swiss are Coming, The Swiss are Coming!
I still think there’s no way Gordon and Snow and Morrow didn’t look at their cap floor space and identify some big fish and said, “If we can get this guy, do it” on July 1. They have the last two years, anyway.
But yeah, is it a shock they couldn’t or didn’t get any? Probably not. Particularly when you factor in that some very good teams could fit those guys in. I feel blindsided by PIT nabbing Z and Martin. They are suddenly even scarier than two seasons ago. Shit.
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Safety Net?
Bergy, Big Andy, Meyer… All year, the “downer” in me has been saying, what if they go into the UFA period without any safety nets like 2007… You wind up with Guerin (could ahve been worse)… Comrie (toe drag or not toe drag…)…JoVas(who I liked, but poof… into the ether)…Tank (Great playoff guy… for a team that doesn’t have an ass hair’s chance of making the playoffs)
As a matter of fact… tehy could probably get ALL OF THOSE GUYS for $10M
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Well the big difference is we have the guys in the system now to fill those positions
yes a bit earlier than we want, but I don’t think thats necessarily a bad thing.
Again, ladies
don’t get your panties in a knot over not “winning” the opportunity to grossly overpay some guy for a long time.
I don’t think I’ve seen a deal on the board yet that wasn’t way too much money for what was being offered.
by Nova Scotia Isles Fan on Jul 1, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I would agree...
If they had $10M to get to the Ceiling… but they HAVE TO overspend, just to get to the floor… or put all your money on RED (pun intended), and keep your fingers crossed.

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It would be great to get a high scoring D man but the reality is when was the last time any team had a 50 goal D man..or even a 40 goal Dman..what we need is scoring..bodies we have a lot of :)
by IslesFanForLife on Jul 1, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
never
The league record for goals by a defensman in one season is 48, held by Chicago’s Doug Wilson. He may share the record with Coffey, but I don’t properly recall.
Fifteen goals and fifty points are quite respectable for a blueliner in today’s NHL. Streit can do it. We’ll see what happens the rest of the summer. Garth always has the option of dealing for what he needs.
Of course I'm an expert, I've seen Slap Shot eleven times!
Whoa
Okay, that made me check: Coffey had the 48 goal season, Orr had 46, Coffey also had a 40, and Wilson’s highest was 39.
I liked Wilson; feels like his career isn’t talked about much in that conversation.
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Emery has avascular necrosis, he may never lace em up again.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
All the best, Tim. :(
(sniff)
I will miss him more than Ill miss any of the other guys who have sofar re-signed elsewhere.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m very happy he got an NHL deal somewhere. Man has paid his dues and then some, and I’m sure the Sutters will dig him.
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I was kind of hoping...
we would pick someone up that would strengthen us. even if overpriced, it would be nice to see the Isles make the playoffs.
no only would that bring more revenue to wang but when players start seeing the Isles as a threat they won’t be so hesistant to come play here.
and for those faithful out there …Im a long time reader who decided to start posting …been a fan since I was born …I go to school in philly but still travel home to see 8-10 games a season and go to the games when the isles come to philly…hope to be back in ny in a couple of years and get myslef some season tickets
Welcome aboard...
… and the Isles must spend a lot of money in free agency (or trade for some expensive players), in order to reach the cap floor, so take what you said and multiply it by about a million. I can’t believe they didn’t at least offer a gross overpayment to at least one or two big d-men.
Garth, oh Garth, oh Garth…. what ARE you thinking?
Guess I should go out for a run…. it’s not like I’m going to miss anything.
Warning: This post may cause Yashin Rashes, Spano Spasms, and Dingle Milburys.
by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jul 1, 2010 6:33 PM EDT reply actions
I hope he is thinking Kovalchuk. That would fill the Coliseum for the amount of years we sign him lol.
I don't think it will that much, he's not LeBron...
it would however make us a better team short term. Just worry about that contract long term.
BTW
What’s the punishment for not making the floor.
A. Do you have to spend the day shopping with Gary Bettman.
B. You lose your spot on Campbell’s Wheel Of Justice. (been there, done that)
C. You don’t get to send your #1 draft pick to the World Championships.
D. Kate Murray pops out of your birthday cake…
E. You can’t bring your grandson(?) to the draft next year… or if you barely make the floor he’s banned from the buffet.
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Nice!
But I think the team pays a fine equal to the delta between the floor and their current payroll. Besides, we’ve NEVER been on Campbell’s Wheel of Justice, and choice D would be cruel and unusual punishment, earning a swift conviction at the International Court in The Hague.
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by ICanSeeForIslesAndIsles on Jul 1, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think its a fine, I think that it is given to the other players on the roster so that you HAVE to spend that much on your roster.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 1, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a bad day
Whatever happened to this team being in a good position to spend cap wise?
Looks like the same fat cat teams getting fatter.
This is a bad day by Garth Snow. We are now stuck in a spot where we have to overpay for bottom tier talent. We easily could have been players for Paul Martin with a three year 6.5 million deal. That would have shored up our D and made it formidable.
Dont you see?
Just because the Isles are in a good position to spend doesnt mean they should! Some you seem like you want the Isles to throw money at any pile of schmucks for the sake of doing it. Jesus, this FA class for the most part is crap. So there are a couple of guys who arent crap, a fe guys whose deals are large but not unfathomably so, and some other team signed them? YEah, thats what ALWAYS happens. It isnt what happens “to the Islanders”.
I saw someone say over on CBs (grouchy) comments section that this is the year Garth has been waiting for to spend on FAs. I call BULLSHIT. When I decide I need to buy new clothes, I dont rush in and buy things that dont fit and arent worth it just to say I bought clothes like I wanted to. If you do that youre not even happy when you wear them. Im sorry to use such a girly example but it really does work with what Im talking about here.
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Maybe they plan on signing Nino and Kabanov to entry level deals? Somewhere around 2-3 mil for Nino and 1-2 for KK?
Side note...
Anyone going tothe Mets/Isles thing??
I’ll be at that and the Orange and Blue scrimmage
i want to, but no car/license makes it a logistical nightmare being in nj… i’m hoping the 4 fans i know from the area are interested in going
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?
-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
I have no car either Bob but I want to go, even if Im going by myself lol. If you can get into the city, you can get to CitiField. I need to get tickets, but the friend who always comes to things like this with me (he is an Isles AND Mets freak, too) is working and cant make it. Im trying to get my Bruins, Blackhawks, and Red Sox loving friend to go with me to check out CitiField and combine hockey with baseball lol.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 2, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, it’s easy actually to get in, i work near the city (think meadowlands) but the journey back isn’t always so smooth, works better when u have a ride back, which i’m still working on… i’ll let you know if i manage one, then you can go without being alone, even if it is only with a virtual friend from the isles blogosphere :-)
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?
-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
Your analogy falls on it's face
given that you don’t have a cap floor to spend on cloths.
There are a few Free Agents out there (or WERE) that are worth it. Paul Martin would have been worth it.
A 5.5-6.5 contract to Martin at total of about 15 mill over three years, coupled with a signing of maybe Lydman at 2 mill per, would have shored up the D and put us at the cap floor.
Now we are stuck buying cloths that don’t fit just to get to the cap floor.
but of course we don't know that garth didn't make a generous offer to one or more of the likely suspects,
do we?
You don't know if he did
They’ll probably come out with the same PR release but that’s really what it is; PR.
It ain’t like Wang doesn’t have a rep for using the FA period to forward his own ambition on the Lighthouse. Pittsburgh had the same arena situation and losing product on the ice but they were able to land a few Free Agents themselves to fill some needs.
the aforementioned suspects might have been given offers as good or better here
but chose Pitt and NJ because they seemed more likely to contend for the Cup. As the Isles get better over the next few, NJ declines, and Pitt struggles with the cap, they may have cause to regret their choices.
That's doubtful
You don’t have an independent third party to validate this.
That’s the problem. An agent has too much personal interest to carry water for Snow and Wang given that some of his clients are gonna have a nice pay day.
Also, Wang has a vested interest here in getting an arena deal that includes increased revenue streams out side of the organization. More than anything, he’s using this team to get what he wants.
But yet,
You choose to believe that it’s not true…amazing!
No reason at all
to think they didn’t go hard after these guys… I am sooo glad Gart and not our fans run this team.
I have no reason to believe
that Garth was not doing his best to get the players he thought he needed.
we're all so typical aren't we
chick makes a clothes shopping analogy
jp makes a monkey joke
me and a few others drop in the occasional dick joke
and garth spent the day sitting on his hand so he could pull off his best “stranger” ever in the executive bathroom at the coli
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?
-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
The Stranger...
When Meursault was notified of his mother’s death he immediatly sat on his hand so he could rub one out to honor her memory…. the end.
- Albert Camus (translated by Bob1
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HAHA, seriously i liked that joke more then i should becuase...
that happens to be my favorite book, i’m a poor man’s version of him in many ways, and of course, you gotta love The Cure for writing a hit single about it (killing an arab) which then had to have it’s own disclaimer on the package, that it was actually about the book and not about ceasing the lives of random arabs on a beach
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?
-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me
Albums didn't need labels...
…when I was a kid. We killed arabs for food.
Then came Tipper!
While this thread is dead I’ll go off on a tangent…
Last night during a bout with insomnia I searched for the “cure” with a little Kettle One and the NHL Network’s Cassic Series… they aired the 2003 NYI v OTT series.
I forgot how frustrating it was to have a mickey mouse roster over-achieve, and get crushed by a superior team.
The more things change, the more they stay the same…
In game one… Yashin gets CRUSHED by Neil… NOBODY on the Isles cares… NOBODY.
Almost every highlight from that series positive, or negative has a Senator crushing an Islander. You can see Lavy BOIL… but the only answer they have is Eric Cairns… and it’s playoff hockey, so even without the “instigator(SB needs spellcheck)” there is no retaliation except when the pipsqueaks (again…spellcheck please) do something dirty.
Weimer headbuts Neil… gets a five. One Islander “Simonized” Neil and got NOTHING… Neil took it right in the chops… and just kept unloading on random Isles the rest of the series…
Volchenkov has some nice blasts in that series as well…
Lavy has since been to two cup finals, winning one… and that team was quickly dissolved. only remnants… GARTH SNOW and Trent Hunter
I hate the Senators, more due to Mike Milbury than the Senators themselves… but they had a clue under Martin… and a pretty good roster.
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Ah, memories. The crappy kind.
I saw that on the NHLN schedule and set it to record like Pavlov’s less famous dog, Suicide. I’m thinking your review is reason enough to avoid it, yet I’m drawn to rehash the past and stew in it as some sort of lesson.
I’m still laughing with this thread though — gonna have to tell my buddy that “The Stranger” came up on this blog, and I’m telling my sister we’re reliving “Killing an Arab.”
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Pavlov's deaf dog, Scrawny...
Dom brought up Kafka a couple of weeks ago, which prompted a re-read… and I’m pretty sure this is where I found out that Howard Zinn died.
This site is becoming an awesome virtual pub. I may have to join you on the wagon some day. Who needs alcohol when you have LH Hockey!
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and... I'm a dumbass...
thought that was from Bob… sorry Dom.
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Ironically
Chickendirt announced Zinn’s death and memorialized it here.
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I liked my clothes shopping analogy.
Buyers remorse is REAL, people.
Besides- it would be a lot more disconcerting if I was the one making the dick jokes.
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by TheMetalChick on Jul 2, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Buyers remorse is REAL, people.
as evidenced by our two biggest contracts lol
Besides- it would be a lot more disconcerting if I was the one making the dick jokes.
haha, maybe, but then again, i think using the name The Metal Chick allows you some freedoms that someone who names themself “marthastewartfan216” wouldnt get
Scaramouch, Scaramouch, will you do the Fandango ?
-sorry, that pic just screams Boh/Rhap to me

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