Islanders Draft Day Two Wrapup (With 100% More Krill)
by Mark D on Jun 26, 2010 4:55 PM EDT
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As I expect we'll be covering the whole draft in depth over the next few days, this post is mostly to bring people up to speed with who was selected. The Islanders ended last night's draft by trading their second round picks to Chicago for the 30th overall. That wasn't the last deal of the day by far, but it did mean a lot of sitting around until the Islanders two third round picks.
In Round 3, 65th Overall Islanders Select F Krill Kabanov
Krill's NHL Profile
Krill was ranked 15th in the midterm rankings, only to fall to 31st and then to the Islanders at 65. Lots of talent and potential to hopefully offset the craziness (and wrist injury) that caused him to drop.
In Round 3, 82nd Overall Islanders Select F Jason Clark
Jason's NHL Profile
Jason Clark is another Minnesota High School kid. He is committed to Wisconsin currently, so could be considered a long term project as he'll be in college for at least two years.
Garth Snow then traded the Islanders 4th Round pick to the Avalanche for their 2011 3rd Round Pick.
In Round 5, 125th Overall Islanders Select D Tony DeHart
Tony's HockeyDB.com
Calvin de Haan's Defensive Partner in Oshawa. Led all Dmen in Points in Oshawa last year. Since he's already twenty years old, he might be playing in Bridgeport next year. Possibly depending on where de Haan ends up and how they work out together.
Garth Snow then traded both the Islanders 6 Round picks to Thrashers for their 2011 5th round pick.
In Round 7, 185th Overall Islanders Select G Cody Rosen
Cody's HockeyDB.com (I Think)
A very strange pick, considering there were ranked Goalies still on the board. Rosen is 20, and even attended the Flyers camp last year as an undrafted UFA. If anyone knows anything about him feel free to comment.
So going into the draft with 10 picks overall (Second most behind Carolina) we come out of it with 6 Players, an extra 3rd rounder next year and extra 5th rounder. All the picks seem very reasonable except for Rosen. Not too much to complain about, let's just hope next years draft class isn't as bad as it's rumored. Or maybe Snow will trade those picks for picks in 2012.
PS: Since we didn't get an Interview with Nino, Here's one from IslesBlogger.
Nino Niederreiter speaks to the media (via Islesblogger)
PPS: Some Krill Video, He has some Rob Schremp Hockey in him
Kirill Kabanov first tribute (via rybr)
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I absolutely loved the Kabanov pick...
I was so hoping we took him at 35, to get him at 65 is incredible.
Hated the Jason Clark pick considering I’ve never heard of him. Also to pass on Telegin twice, drove me insane, no way there’s a better player in the 3rd round next year.
Overall I think we had a very good draft, it could have been great with Telegin, but still very good.
Like I mentioned over on the Day 2 thread, I think Garth is looking to give the current batch of Forward Prospects a chance, which is why he added two project picks in Clark and Nelson. I think Kabanov will be in Juniors, DeHart will be in BP since they can always use more Dmen, and Rosen makes no god dam sense to me whatsoever.
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I agree 100% and it is classic Garth. I actually at one point on here mentioned that I could see Garth taking him in the 2nd or 3rd round. Garth seems to love taking highly ranked players in the middle rounds who fall on draft day. Petrov, Ness, Toews, Trivino. Taking Kabonov was classic Garth. Also, (If Katie Strangs reports are true) kudos to Garth for trying to trade down to nab Fowler. I love his agressive approach on draft day. Can you imagine if he was able to pull that one off?
I'm still digesting everything after returning to the First World...
…but I cannot believe Garth pulled off another dropping Kiril in the 3rd. This is why you collect 2nds and 3rds, I guess: So you can afford to take high-upside “risks” with your crapshoot picks that other teams can’t because they’re already thin. Nice work.
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If we place both Kirill’s on the same line we could call it the Kirill Thrill Cult.
Islander season begins today. Here's to a stronger December. Now go get Gudbranson, Snow, and give me my free tickets.
Now all I can think is it’s a good thing we don’t have another forward with a K to begin their name.
The Swiss are Coming, The Swiss are Coming!
We could trade for Evader Kane!
I know…just wrong.
Islander season begins today. Here's to a stronger December. Now go get Gudbranson, Snow, and give me my free tickets.
by metalcoconut on Jun 26, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Kyle Okposo…just as wrong.
Islander season begins today. Here's to a stronger December. Now go get Gudbranson, Snow, and give me my free tickets.
by metalcoconut on Jun 26, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
El Nino, Okposo and Kabanov….the natural disaster line…just kidding. Force of Nature?
Islander season begins today. Here's to a stronger December. Now go get Gudbranson, Snow, and give me my free tickets.
by metalcoconut on Jun 26, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Would love if Nino can make the Jump to the NHL, but I get the feeling he might spend a year in Juniors.
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Oh yeah, I don’t doubt that they leave him there for a year but I was just thinking of names for the fun of it.
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by metalcoconut on Jun 26, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
My thought
they may well be on a line with Josh. I am a teetotaler, but we already have the Mo(u)lson Golden Line. There is a vodka named Petrov, so maybe someone who knows drinks can come up with a good one based on mixing Bailey’s and vodka.
That goalie pick makes less than zero sense.
I mean I get the whole idea of taking a flyer on someone – but this is in no way a good one.
The Isles already have enough goalie prospects. The Isles don’t need to draft a 20 year old when they can just sign him. Unless they plan on converting him to defense or he leapfrogs a lot of the other goalies in the system, this is a very bad pick (although the chances of you picking a NHL-player in the 7th round is quite low).
Even Andersen, another unranked goalie who was from Denmark, at least has a history of work. There’s almost nothing on Rosen.
But it’s a 7th Rounder and not likely to mean much so I can let it go. Just weird.
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Yeah. If that were a earlier pick then I would be more annoyed by it – but given the rest of their draft was good (imo) and that it is in keeping with their more aggressive vein of drafting (like last year to some extent as well with the De Haan trade, but the exact opposite of the Bailey trades the year before that), I can’t say I hate the risk by any stretch.
since its only a 7th rounder and I know nothing about him
I say trust the scouts. It would be nice if they defended the choice so we could makse sense of it though.
I would love to hear the organizations explanation of this one. Even if is talented, why draft someone you can sign as a UFA? I’m just glad that the stupid rumor that was posted a little while back about the Isles taking Campbell in the first round were untrue.
The Campbell thing was actually a bunch of Mock Drafts.
The only reasoning I can think of is that Snow picked him with his eyes on 2-3 years down the road. He’ll probably stay in college and by the time he’s ready we’ll have openings in the AHL or ECHL.
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I am bewildered by the Rosen pick… especially with Lars Volden available.
R.I.P. Hans und Franz... this is the price of professionalism.
by David Hanssen on Jun 26, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
And in 3 years time, hopefully we’ll have an answer on DP and if he will be playing again. Plus, we’ll have one of our prospects (if not two) manning the goal as well.
That being said, I believe Rosen has 3 years of college eligibility remaining at Clarkson, which will give him enough time to develop under Coach Roll (who coached Oswego’s hockey team when I was a student there), so it may or may not work out for the Isles in the end.
I just watched the Jany interview and he said that they draft the best available player…come on. Just say you target people already. However he also said that it was a coincidence that they drafted players with size this year. Hi Alex, I’ll take Bull for $5000.
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The addition of bigger players is a nice change of pace.
I think everyone this year has noted when we play big teams like San Jose and Anahiem that we need size. With Brock, Kabonov, and Nino along with Kyle, Martin, Trent, Moulson and Petrov we now have a good amount of big forwards to go with more finese players Josh, Frans, JT, and Blake.
If you guys want a laugh
Go to the Blueshirt Banter (Rangers) site on SBN. On their Day 1 and Day 2 threads they wanted Nino and Kabanov. The speed at which they go from loving those guys to hating them is hilarious.
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Even funnier is them trying to justify the McIlrath pick. I went over there to gauge the reaction and while many of the rag fans were justifiably pissed many were defending it. Let me say that I do like the kid and wish we could have grabbed him at some point in the 2nd or 3rd (though I prefer what Garth did, trading up for brock then taking Kabanov) There was a rumor kicking around that the rags want to convert McIlrath to a winger, which while I highly doubt they do (at least not initially), it would make sense. McIIrath, had he been born a decade earlier, would clearly have been a first round pick (a la Brendan Witt) but with the focus more and more on speed and mobility this pick just baffles me. There is a real chance he could never develop the mobility necessary to be and NHLer. I saw posts where people said forwards were blowing by him in juniors.
A lot of them think it’s another Jessiman pick, in which they went after the size above all else.
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God willing…
R.I.P. Hans und Franz... this is the price of professionalism.
by David Hanssen on Jun 26, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
One of my Ranger fan friends (who said people are perfect?) sent me a message yesterday screaming that the Rangers made an awful pick. I can’t say I blame her, since it was an awful pick. I’m a lot happier with the Islanders draft and prospects in general, especially in comparison to that runaway train wreck that calls MSG home.
Kabanov was even
in the top 5 at one point. Good pick up for you guy, hopefully. Many over at PPP were hoping we would pick him.
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Before this season started many were saying he was going to go first overall! His name was mentioned along with Fowler’s and Hall’s as the player to watch last season. In fact, a few articles I read actually were calling him the most hyped and highly anticipated prospect since Ovechkin to come out of Russia. Of course this was all before this past season started. He is clearly one of the most talented players in this draft class. Hopefully he can get his attitude in check and the injuries don’t turn out to be to much of a concern. He could very well be the absolute steal of the draft.
We'll trade him to you, for next year's first.
Fiya Minaya.
by BringBackBobby on Jun 26, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Tony DeHart
I noticed while looking at Tony DeHart’s stats on hockeydb.com that he played a couple of games for the Springfield Falcons in the AHL. Does anyone know if he was previously drafted? If not, perhaps he ended up there on a tryout basis. When considering the De Haan connection, the drafting of DeHart may wind up being one of the better picks of the later rounds for the Isles this year.
It’s nothing surprising that he played a few games for the AHL last year. He would have been considered an undrafted UFA. The Falcons probably gave him a tryout.
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Yeah, it was an ATO (Amatuer Try-Out), even if he had signed an AHL contract he technically would have been eligible for the draft since he had not signed an entry-level with an NHL team.
The thing working in DeHart’s favor is the Isles have an excellent track record lately in drafting over-aged defensemen from the CHL. Whether it was Andrew MacDonald in 2006 or Chris Campoli in 2004 they’ve had productive careers. Hopefully DeHart can continue the trend.
R.I.P. Hans und Franz... this is the price of professionalism.
by David Hanssen on Jun 26, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Isles winners, rangers loses says nhl.fanhouse.com
An article on nhl.fanhouse. has the Islanders listed as one of there ‘winners’ for the 2010 draft (along with Florida, Anaheim, Boston and Phoenix) and the rangers as one the losers.
here’s the link: http://nhl.fanhouse.com/2010/06/26/2010-nhl-draft-grades-winners-and-losers/
Of Course
the Rags were losers they had a chance at Gormley AND Fowler and they wound up taking a guy that would have been there in the third round. Go to any rangers blog and you’ll find more than a couple fans that are absolutely seething.
by St. Joe Schmo on Jun 26, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Excellent
R.I.P. Hans und Franz... this is the price of professionalism.
by David Hanssen on Jun 26, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Dylan McIlrath is a far better prospect than people are giving him credit for being. He could rise in value Hamonic-style, IMO. He isnt some bum or a dimensionless goon/enforcer- and no matter how bad Isles fans want to make fun of the Rags org for this pick, I just dont see it as justified. Was he picked early? Yes- by the same margin as Bailey was picked early. Has that worked out so bad?
Lets just be happy about our OWN team and the great guys the Isles picked up- and not be so hungry for schadenfreude. After all, karmas a bitch.
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by TheMetalChick on Jun 26, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Have to agree
Mcilrath was selected around the mid to late first in alot of the mocks. We also drafted Nino a few spots ahead of where he was supposedly valued. Mcilrath is a player I’d have loved us to move up in the first and get so I’m not prepared to jump on the hate wagon just because he has the misfortune of playing for the Rags. A revamp of the 09 draft had De Haan ranked 24th rather than 12th were we got him so I think we should perhaps hold off counting our chickens :)
haha, I saw that too, but he had dropped to the 27th.
But really, that’s just because he didn’t play in the NHL and was injured. He’s still by far considered our best prospect right now. I mean he nearly made it to the NHL out of camp with his showing.
The problem with Mocks though is that no Mock had Fowler falling that far. When it’s a choice between Fowler and McIllarth, I believe everyone but Sather would have taken Fowler. I mean unless in the long run there was something really really wrong with Fowler and that’s why he fell.
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disagree
Bailey was picked at a reasonable spot. McIlrath should not have been picked any earlier than 15-20—arguably even later. Bailey, at most, was a spot or two from where he should have been picked and is working out better than Cody who everyone wanted.
Moreover, McIlrath does not address a critical need that could justify picking him so early. Along with HL and Gaborik, their current VERY YOUNG shutdown pairing is one of the main strengths of their organization. They desperately need a legit top six RW prospect and Tarasenko is comparable to Nino. Only his KHL contract kept him on the board at #10. He would have been perfect for the Rangers with their history of bringing Russians to the NHL. Probably even better than either Fowler or Gormley—although either would be likely to be the best Ranger defenseman since Leetch.
If Sather had to have McIlrath, he absolutely should have traded down for a few second and third rounders. This was VERY poor in every way. And with the grief I always get from my brother about the Icelosers, etc etc, I have earned a right to gloat.
Just going through reports, it sounds like it was really tough to move around in the first this year.
Snow tried to move down after Grubds was taken, Sather supposedly tried to move back too, Colombus wanted to move back too, and Snow supposedly tried to get back into the first to get Fowler once he fell.
The one thing that does make sense is that the Rangers are supposedly loaded with offensive dmen prospects and that’s part of the reason they traded that former first rounder to the Canes.
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As far as I know
their prime offensive d-men prospects were Del Zotto, Sanguinetti, and Gilroy. Sanguinnetti (a former first rounder) they just traded for a second rounder in 2011 and a minor pick in this draft. Del Zotto and Gilroy, after an initial spurt by Del Zotto, both looked quite flawed. Del Zotto probably needs another year in juniors, if he is eligible, or in the AHL, if he is not. Gilroy may have trouble making the roster. Neither is comparable to Fowler or Gormley in my view.
I don’t know about the other thing. There seemed to be a fair amount of movement in the mid to late rounds. I mean Garth’s try for Fowler was noble but a long shot. I have a hard time believing that nobody wanted to trade up to #10.
Kabanov said...
"People say I’m bad like the devil, but I’m good like an angel."
I believe he may be the Angel of Death for many in our division if he turns out to be as good as hyped.
Islander season begins today. Here's to a stronger December. Now go get Gudbranson, Snow, and give me my free tickets.
If only we still had Miro....
just think of the possibilities.
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by metalcoconut on Jun 26, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
He’ll end up skating at Iceworks for another almost full season and then Boston will bring him back at the deadline again. Actually I could see Philly doing it this year.
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by metalcoconut on Jun 27, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
A Devil
Maybe Satan will finally make every NHL fan happy and sign with the Devils.
If Lou weren't such a party-pooper...
…whenever he’s ready to quit he could do one of those one-day signings for the headlines: “Satan: ‘I Want to Retire as a Devil.’”
If I were commish, I’d mandate that it happen.
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My favorite quote from Kabanov...
“Everybody was talking about me having a bad reputation. But you know what? Hockey is a sport, and sometimes you’re going up and sometimes you’re going down. When a plane hits turbulation (not a real word btw) the plane isn’t falling down.”
…and he is right…as long as he scores a lot of goals for the Isles. :)
Islander season begins today. Here's to a stronger December. Now go get Gudbranson, Snow, and give me my free tickets.
by metalcoconut on Jun 26, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope everyone tempers their expectations, he has a long way to go to even prove he can handle the competition, let alone adjust his attitude. In the long run, the 3rd round might be appropriate for him.
I cannot wait for Rakh-tober.
I don’t put any expectations on him until the Isles place him on a line. That could be this year but I suspect that he will come in next year. He has unresolved issued in Moncton that I’m sure Garth would like to see him work out.
Islander season begins today. Here's to a stronger December. Now go get Gudbranson, Snow, and give me my free tickets.
by metalcoconut on Jun 27, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Might be a Long Regular Season...
Word from Broad Street Hockey is that the Flyers are allowed to talk with Nabokov. If they reach an agreement with him before UFA, they are going to send a 7th rounder to the Sharks for his rights.
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My main caveat for this draft:
although I like Nelson, Merrill would have been a better choice. We need another big stud defender and had a golden chance to draft one. Would have also liked Telegin and Rutkowski but the big objection is Merrill. That would have made a great draft perfect.
Yeah but...
It’s not really a big deal. D wasn’t really a priority for this draft as the islanders already have alot of defensive prospects like de Haan, Hamonic, Andy Mac, Matt Donovan, Blake Kessel. Also don’t forget there are plenty of free-agent d men for Garth to pick up in the offseason.
by St. Joe Schmo on Jun 27, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
they need another big talented defender
and Jon Merrill was there for the taking at #30. Hope they don’t regret that.
Oh and in Strang's blog at the start of the season
she mentioned the team had identified a top six AND a top four as key needs in the draft.
he tested pretty bad from all the accounts i read… and you know us, we need you to pass those tests…
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i believe they were referring to interviews but they weren’t specific, of course it all could have been presumptuous reporting from him getting caught partying + the harassment thing leading to a suspension
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Yeah, I think in one of the interviews even he said he didn’t interview well at the combine, though who knows how much SnowJanks rated him.
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BTW, if you haven't tried it
Nino’s pic on the website intro makes a REALLY COOL computer background.
Love the Kabanov pick!
No doubt he has top ten talent. If the kid can get his head straight, this kid could turn into an amazing prospect. A bold and brillant move by Garth. Lets go Islanders!!!!!
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