Will there be Draft Day Surprises?
by BCISLEMAN on Jun 25, 2010 6:38 AM EDT
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In some ways, this day has been more anticipated than the last Draft Day. Although Garth kept it close to the vest, everyone really knew who he was going to draft with the first pick. He did pull some surprises with subsequent picks.
Even before the 2009-10 season began...in fact, even before the 2009 draft took place, many of us were looking forward to this one. Taylor Hall and Cam Fowler were the big names on everybody's lips. Now, between our draft position and our perceptions, the choice for many of us is between Erik Gudbranson and Nino Niederreiter, two players we had not even heard of a year ago.
Some things have not changed. Burkie tried to dominate the headlines last year by threatening to huff and puff and blow Garth's doors down to get the #1 pick. This year, he is trying to convince his fanbase that the rest of the NHL GMs are desperate to give away their franchises to rent Tomas Kaberle for a year. Burkie is always Burkie.
There is, of course, the Edmonton-Boston, Hall-Seguin storyline. Will Jason Spezza be traded (probably not)? Are the Bowmans done dealing (ditto)? Will Florida and / or Columbus move their picks (maybe)?
Then there are the Islanders. Will Erik be on the board when Garth first steps up to the podium? Will he trade down and try to get Nino + McIlrath or whoever? Will he try to move the #35 up and have at least two picks today? What will he do with the second and subsequent round picks? Will there be any Anders Lee type surprises?
And will Garth make any trades? The one gamechanger Garth could make would be to move Mark Streit. He could send him to Anaheim for Bobby Ryan or to Columbus for the #4 pick. It would be risky, but if he could also sign Paul Martin and Zbynek Michalek, this team would become an instant contender.
Assuming Garth doesn't pull off such a blockbuster, he really needs to bolster the second line if he is going to make good on his playoff pledge. I am confident that he will improve the defense between draft and free agency. The second line is another matter. I am just not impressed with Schremp-Bailey-Comeau.
There are two trades he could make. He could send Bergy along with maybe a pick in 2011 for Kris Versteeg. And he could send Schremp to Columbus for Nikita Filatov. Versteeg is not a Q guy and the Hawks still need to make cap space. If THN is right, the Jackets will be anxious to move Filatov and they need a second line center. One or both of those moves could work. Or Garth could just rely on that old Moulson magic. We'll see. Should be interesting.
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I think there are several Islanders that will have their cell phones close by, but may get the news from VS today. IMO there are at least 4 possible EX-ISLES by midnight.
1. Sean Bergenhiem. I’m a big fan of Sean, but there’s no solid evidence that Snow-Go share that sentiment. There were reports that he was on the block at the deadline and there’s no reason to think that he may not be shipped today.
2. Blake Comeau. this is another guy I’d hate to see go. If Snow-Go feel that the end of 2009-10 was a nice VALUE spike, but little else, then this could be a SELL HIGH period.
3. Bruno Gervais. Unlike the other two, not a fan. He is an NHL defenseman, and some teams might take a flyer on him to swap a few positions somewhere… Snow could buy himself a roster spot reserved for a D. He’ll need it if they use part of the $10M on that particular need, draft Grudbranson who they may not want to send back to juniors, and sign Freddy.
4. One of the vertically challenged fence riders… They have stockpiled smallish puck movers… If they get Fowler they will have an organizational surplus…
Does anybody think that deHaan and a late second could get them back into the first round. I know this doesn’t really make sense… but… He could be another Marty… Fowler would replace him on the “need” board, and they might be able to use a mid to late first to take a chance on a forward with some offensive upside.
Katic… again.. depends on Fowler pick… but if he’s found the ceiling they might be able to package him.
Ness… will anybody even want him.
PS: I watched the 2008 draft last night, Does anybody know who the blonde at the Isles table was? I only ask because there aren’t too many women on the floor, and she kinda stuck out.
But what does all this mean to Jeff Tambellini?
Don’t see them getting the kind of value for either Comeau or Katic to make it worthwhile. The only DeHaan move that would make sense to me would be if they traded him to a capstrapped team for a good now defenseman. I doubt that will happen though. If Bruno is moved, it will be a minor move. As I have said, a move that gets us somebody like Versteeg for Bergy would be a good one. A lesser draft pick, not so much.
My point..
I don’t see anywhere in my post that any of these players will go in any kind of a blockbuster. The Isles have a full roster. It is full of question marks and mediocrity, but it’s still full. If you want to obtain UFA’s to get to the floor, and give guys time to SUCCEED then some players have to move. Yeah… most likely “minor” deals… but they will have to go.
I’d say that Schremp is least likely because of the upside he presents as the second line center.
Before you misquote me, I didn’t say he WAS the second line center. He does have the tools and his competition for that spot(without a UFA addition), he could very well step into that role this year. That probably moves Bailey to LW, and then you are looking at very little opportunity for Martin, and I think they have plans to have Martin with the big team until he plays his way to Bridgeport… that’s probably why they had Bergy on the block last year… and I have a feeling we’ll here his name come out of Bettman’s mouth today.
But what does all this mean to Jeff Tambellini?
Don't think I did misquote you
I was simply making my points in response to yours. I think a deal moving any defenseman would have to be pretty sweet given our needs on the roster. If Schremp is anything, he is a second line center. I don’t see him as a first, third, or fourth. The players that have the most value to us are also going to bring back the most in trade.
Schremp for Filitov?
Just my opinion, but why would you ship a POSITIVE locker room influence who looked like he was about to bust out last year, for somebody who you could have had two years ago before he confirmed his question marks.
Hopefully Petrov will fill their RW concerns at some point… If Bailey is going to be forced into the center spot then they will probably have to come up with a platoon… which might not be a bad thing if they all (Schremp/Bailey/Frans) buy into it. Injuries will most likely hapen, so it wouldn’t be permanent.
But what does all this mean to Jeff Tambellini?
Filatov is a LW—I believe—and the Isles could use a top six LW—esp if they do not draft Nino. There are some who say that Filatov’s problems were with Hitchcock and that he might thrive elsewhere. Isles would have to be satisfied that this was likely the case. In any event, Schremp is another guy who should tune in today.
gotta go with JP, from a logic standpoint, something turned them off of Filatov (it wasn’t all Bailey love i mean) that made them trade down… the situation has only gotten worse for him too since then, losing the C in the WJC’s was pretty bad… at this point, i wouldnt give up DP’s old hip if that’s all columbus wanted for him
if you play 'words with friends' on the ipod/iphone, my name is BLEWAN, search me out with a "go isles" and it's GAME ON!
Losing the C is just about not being a leader
Marleau didn’t want the C. If he had wanted to sign with us, I don’t see Garth turining himaway because of that. I just want Filatov to score lots of goals and he might just do that for us.
And losing your badge...
… is just about not being a cop.
Sometimes it’s just not good to introduce a volatile element into a fragile environment. I think they made their decision on Filatov in 2008, and he proved them right. Case closed.
But what does all this mean to Jeff Tambellini?
from what I have heard about the Islander room
it isn’t that fragile. And the Isles would have to exercise due diligence to be sure he would not be a bad influence before making the trade. They made their decision not to draft him with a top ten in 2008. That doesn’t mean that he wouldn’t be a good player to pick up in a minor trade. Just saying it should be considered.
Okay...
let’s agree to disagree. I’m not giving up Schremp (who I enjoy rooting for) for Filatov who may score 30-40 consistently, but may lack any sense of responsible play on a team that bases it’s offense on an aggressive forecheck.
This will sound absolutely ridiculous, but I wouldn’t give up Bergy either. He may not have the hands or the speed, but he is engaged on both sides of the rink and he creates opportunities. Sometimes a third line contributer can be more valuable than a roller coaster 30 goal flash.
Good teams can afford a Filatov… GREAT TEAMS don’t bother.
But what does all this mean to Jeff Tambellini?
I like both players too but...
If this team is going to compete, it is going to need a real scorer on that second line and Bergy and Schremp are our main tradable assets after Mark Streit. So unless Garth can make some more Moulson magic, I think he has to trade one or both of them if a good deal comes up. And, if Filatov scores 30-40 consistently without being a real PIA, I suspect that 99% of the Isles fanbase would take that in a second.
you’re so inconsistent BC !!
you want FILATOV, but you want, at ALL COSTS, to avoid KOVALCHUK ???
where – please please tell me where this line of thinking makes any sense because i don’t see it?
if you play 'words with friends' on the ipod/iphone, my name is BLEWAN, search me out with a "go isles" and it's GAME ON!
Inconsistency 101
To play my favorite sesame street game… which one of these is not like the other..
1. Ken Morrow
2. Eric Gudbranson
3. Nino Niederreiter
4. Nikita Filatov
But what does all this mean to Jeff Tambellini?
I'll play your game
1) Ken Morrow. He’s the only retired player.
In one case, we are talking about a minor trade. In the others using a top five pick. And I didn’t say it was absolutely something to do but that it should be considered.
You are interesting, Bob
In another spot, you compare the talent level on the Winterhawks with the Spits. Now you are comparing the influence one of the NHL’s premier stars who everyone regards as the biggest potential prize of FA if he hits the market with a kid who has not yet emerged as a player. Does that make sense to you? Do you really think Filatov would have an influence on the room comparable to Kovi’s? Think about it. And I didn’t say I wanted Filatov, just that he should be considered.
i never did such, i said you take points from fowler b/c he played for windsor, but you ignore nino got help from johansen, that is fair
if you play 'words with friends' on the ipod/iphone, my name is BLEWAN, search me out with a "go isles" and it's GAME ON!
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